November 2024 - General Weather Discussion

[TheTravellers]

Knew someone would complain about “non-action”. Nice dry run for kids in my house. I live around Wilshire and Kilpatrick and we could hear the wind/rain doing in multiple directions thru our pergola. Ears were popping.


Jim Gardner KWTV chopper just said he was at Wiley Post and was about to take off when he saw a rope tornado (just over us) that got just about halfway down but never touched ground (obviously)
so yeah..

"non-action"? Not sure what you mean by that (edit: had some coffee and figured it out), but both those locations are not close to Venice, so my point about the sirens and polygon are still pretty valid.

[jn1780]

They 100% decided to make the polygon for the whole line because Saturday night was still fresh on their minds. It was the kind of setup where a new area of spin could quickly form anywhere along the line.

[jn1780]

Watch out the storms coming from the south are ramping up.

[Pete]

When was the last time we had multiple tornadic events in the OKC area in the month of November??

This is crazy.

[Anonymous.]

What an insane flip for the state. This storm has taken the perfect track to give a large majority of the state rainfall amounts that normally only come with a tropical system.

Tulsa is already over 8" and OKC will be by the time this is over.

[Urbanized]

When was the last time we had multiple tornadic events in the OKC area in the month of November??

This is crazy.

Looks like the last time there were multiple tornados reported in November in Oklahoma County was 2004. They’re fairly common state-wide though, historically. This time of year is legitimately designated a second severe weather season: https://www.weather.gov/oun/tornadod...embertornadoes

[Anonymous.]

Tornado watch coming for SC into E OK in the next couple hours. OKC will likely be on the fringe of the watch box, but majority of action should be to the SE of the metro.

[Anonymous.]

Next SPC outlook update may upgrade SC into E OK to Moderate category for heightened tornado parameters.


Current solar radiation ongoing across E OK is not a good sign.

[kukblue1]

Front has already come through OKC much quicker than thought. It's 9:30 am. Still expect big storms though to the east southeast of the metro.

[SoonerDave]

Looks like frontal passage across C Ok has greatly reduced if not eliminated tornado risk. East of front still in area of concern; west (behind) front, just rain.

[bison34]

While this is amazing for OK, I wish we had a more consistent, calm rainy period. Like, an inch or 2 every week or so. Not like, 8 inches, then 5 weeks without rain. But I know that is a "beggars can't be choosers" thing. Glad for the substantial drink the state got.

[MagzOK]

I have to wonder if this newer weather technology has just brought attention to these QLCS tornadoes than even 20 years ago. We've always had these squall lines move through, but have historically just had a majority of straight line wind reports. I just don't remember hearing the term "QLCS tornado" until the last 10 or 15 years maybe. I wonder if the newer technology and better radars in this time frame has really allowed weather experts to further dissect storms in general revealing more in depth these tornados along these lines. Like perhaps maybe even straight line wind reports 20 years ago could have been QLCS tornadoes that we're just now recently learning about. I understand we have some supercells in this event, but I'm primarily referring to the squall lines that we've had the last few days and this morning. Thoughts?

[AFCM]

[Anonymous.]

I have to wonder if this newer weather technology has just brought attention to these QLCS tornadoes than even 20 years ago. We've always had these squall lines move through, but have historically just had a majority of straight line wind reports. I just don't remember hearing the term "QLCS tornado" until the last 10 or 15 years maybe. I wonder if the newer technology and better radars in this time frame has really allowed weather experts to further dissect storms in general revealing more in depth these tornados along these lines. Like perhaps maybe even straight line wind reports 20 years ago could have been QLCS tornadoes that we're just now recently learning about. I understand we have some supercells in this event, but I'm primarily referring to the squall lines that we've had the last few days and this morning. Thoughts?

Yes radar indicated tornados (gate-to-gate shear) technology is leagues above where it used to be. Technology + chasers/spotting/social media has bolstered storm reporting like we have never seen in history. Because of this, it is extremely rare for a tornado to go un-reported/verified even in desolate areas.

The reason for the large polygon across OKC this morning was because there was at least 4 areas of shear along the line of storms and with it being early AM, as a precaution - the warning included everyone.

[jn1780]

I have to wonder if this newer weather technology has just brought attention to these QLCS tornadoes than even 20 years ago. We've always had these squall lines move through, but have historically just had a majority of straight line wind reports. I just don't remember hearing the term "QLCS tornado" until the last 10 or 15 years maybe. I wonder if the newer technology and better radars in this time frame has really allowed weather experts to further dissect storms in general revealing more in depth these tornados along these lines. Like perhaps maybe even straight line wind reports 20 years ago could have been QLCS tornadoes that we're just now recently learning about. I understand we have some supercells in this event, but I'm primarily referring to the squall lines that we've had the last few days and this morning. Thoughts?

Agreed, but even 20 years ago the NWS covered themselves by mentioning that a tornado could form at anytime from a severe thunderstorm so its not like they didn't know it didn't happen, it was just hard to detect.

[NikonNurse]

"non-action"? Not sure what you mean by that (edit: had some coffee and figured it out), but both those locations are not close to Venice, so my point about the sirens and polygon are still pretty valid.

Storms were moving rapidly TOWARDS Venice at the time many kids would be waiting or on bus. And more storms on tap from now … on.

[jn1780]

Luckily the second wave is already east of the metro. If that front, was a little slower we would be talking about tornado warnings in the metro again now.

[NikonNurse]

They 100% decided to make the polygon for the whole line because Saturday night was still fresh on their minds. It was the kind of setup where a new area of spin could quickly form anywhere along the line.

THIS….Venice or not. A) Grandma on Cashion Place in Venice was glad be
awakened and prepared unlike B) Aunt in SOKC, who wasn’t prepared and lost house. So previous poster in Venice? Um,
after what happened yesterday and what happened years ago to the school kids in Moore….This will happen every time.

[TheTravellers]

Storms were moving rapidly TOWARDS Venice at the time many kids would be waiting or on bus. And more storms on tap from now … on.

Actually, there wouldn't be many/any kids in that/our area since OKC schools are out today anyway. I get what everybody is saying, though, but it seems like there's tons more "OMG, we're all going to die, cancel everything" (in general, not just this event) than there used to be, yeah, yeah, abundance of caution, etc., but still seems overboard at times when nothing pans out, seems like a too-far-in-advance kneejerk reaction, and disrupts all kinds of things. Wife left for work at 6:45 today, got slightly rained on, got told at 9 to go home at 11 and work from home the rest of the day, when all it will probably do is just rain (and not severely).

[Ginkasa]

We can only know what we can only know and what we can't know for certain is the future. I would rather things get sometimes cancelled needlessly every once in a while rather than anyone die because we waited too late to adjust plans.