Please let this crap be a rumor......what happened to adidas, puma, timberland, perry ellis, fossil, calvin Klein, johnston & murphy, and nautica, etc? but there will be 4 kiddie clothing places, so who cares......

Some care about kids clothing options , like some people can care less about the stores you listed.. no one knows for sure until horizon group posts the tenants on thre site

I'm all for the kids clothing stores, im just pissed; didnt mean any harm...See, this other .pdf only represents maybe half of the stuff on the original, and I know plans change, but seriously, is it gonna be as large as they originally designed?

the el paso shops is 385,000 sq ft and has 90 shops, the yare planning on expanding an additional 50,000 sq ft.. the oklahoma outlet is around 320 to 340,000 sq ft so im guessing maybe 75 to 80 shops? thats a good, hopefully we will get a accurate list of shops and exact sq footage soon, im hoping for disney outlet , perfumania, nike outlet, anda nice home decor outlet store. Cant really think of any upscale stores that have outlets or i would want them lol, louis vuitton outlet lol..

yeah, if we could get a cole haan\kenneth cole\sarar in addition to the stores on the latest list, I'd be through the roof

The mall may not have ideal finishes but I imagine that when it is done it will look quite impressive as this will be OKCs first taste of an outdoor shopping mall. And I am fine with the tarps, if we are going to have an outdoor mall, shade is key.

Agreed. I don't mind the "tarps" at all.

From that pdf list, the only store I'd go out of my way for is Levi's, but this will be very good for OKC.

they have the tarp design at a outlet mall in vegas, it was done nicely around the outside food courts, i think it will look good, it all just depends, okc to me is not a good idea for tarps, i work for parking at the airport and we have replace the tarps in lot 3 parking, every other year due to hail storm damage/ ice and snow/ high winds etc

Does anyone know if there will be a cosmetic company outlet store?

This looks like it's going to be an incredible set of shops for Okc. Will help this side of town tremendously. Does anyone know what they plan to do with the roads to help with the increase in traffic? If you are ever around I-40 and Macarthur you know exactly what I'm talking about.

When talking about the tarps for the outlet mall, I know the Denver Airports tarps (cones) are made of kevlar. Obviously that would cost more than they are wanting to spend, but I think there are other alternatives to stand up to the Oklahoma weather.

When talking about the tarps for the outlet mall, I know the Denver Airports tarps (cones) are made of kevlar. Obviously that would cost more than they are wanting to spend, but I think there are other alternatives to stand up to the Oklahoma weather.

They simply need to coat them with whatever hairspray some of my elementary teachers used back in the day.
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The outlet mall in Cypress TX has these tarps as well. I was there during the winter, and it was pouring rain. The tarps made it so I would walk around much of the mall without getting wet, and only had to us my umbrella when I went from one group of buildings to another. During the summer heat, I'm sure it will make shopping much more tolerable.

I will be really upset if there's no Polo outlet. That's the one store we have missed most since moving to OK.

Have you been to the Speakeasy lately?...

It's baaaaaaaaaack.

At least for guys. A lot of the yups these days are dressing like the bad guy in every 80s teen movie.
What you are talking about is Lacoste (the alligator logo), Izod was the US distributor for Lacoste until the early 90's. So they are two distinct and separate companies now with Lacoste reentering the US market on their own about 10 years ago.

The "tarps" that are used for parking shelters are much lighter weight and a more open weave than what is used for most of this type of installation. Most of these are a multiple-layer with a coating, much more resistant to weather damage and UV degredation. I would think it would be between the parking lot type and DIA.

As long as we get a "Big Dog Clothing Co." we're set!

Apparently it will look very different from the El Paso Shoppes. They chose the more vibrant colors for El Paso to fit in with the borderland region, where bright colors are popular. The development group for some reason think Oklahoma warrants something much more subtle. They also mentioned that the El Paso project does not have the tarps but that they are intent on adding the tarps to the OKC Shoppes to "add ambiance."

I suppose it's justifiable because we have something El Paso doesn't...rain, and lots of it. But it still bothers me.

What you are talking about is Lacoste (the alligator logo),

Honestly, Ralph Lauren (the Polo logo) is more popular among the "yups" (to use BDP's word) in this part of the country. Lacoste and RL have nearly identical price points and quality and the shirts are identical as well, it's just that Lacoste is more Florida and east coast and RL is more popular in the Deep South.

If you want an even bigger case of the 80s being back..go to a sorority costume party, but wear plenty of nylon.

Apparently it will look very different from the El Paso Shoppes. They chose the more vibrant colors for El Paso to fit in with the borderland region, where bright colors are popular. The development group for some reason think Oklahoma warrants something much more subtle. They also mentioned that the El Paso project does not have the tarps but that they are intent on adding the tarps to the OKC Shoppes to "add ambiance."

I suppose it's justifiable because we have something El Paso doesn't...rain, and lots of it. But it still bothers me.

I hate the color palette. Much prefer the El Paso colors.

Well it appears this is a go ahead project, and is breaking ground tommorrow. Hope that Nordstrom Rack and Kenneth Cole and Neiman's Last Call decide to open stores!





http://www.okcreview.com/news.php?news_id=141&page=1

Breaking ground? I drove by today and the entire lot was dug up and graded.

Breaking ground? I drove by today and the entire lot was dug up and graded. I am going by what the article is stating. Groundbreaking tommorrow July 22. I do not live in OKC so I have not seen how far the development and lot work has started. Maybe it is referring to the actual structure breaks ground tommorrow. Anyway, this should help bring in new retail offerings for OKC residents.

More than likely the "ceremonial" groundbreaking...

I'm sure it's ceremonial. It's very common for a "groundbreaking" to be held after work has actually started. They can't always wait until all of the "bigwigs" involved have time to get together.

They have been doing dirt work out here daily for a few weeks. I drove by last night after 830 and work was still in progress. They even have large lights set up so I am sure they will continue to work in the late hours as well.

This may not be super exciting on a personal level for some, but it's really good for OKC's tax revenue. Up til now, with the exception of the Quail Springs area, all the retail development in the outer ring has gone to the suburb cities.

Someone in this thread mentioned Fossil. Are there any Fossil stores in Oklahoma City? I know their products are found in department stores and jewelry stores. If one opens at the new Outlet stores I think this may be the first Fossil store in Oklahoma City. Tom Kartsotis, who is the founder of Fossil and current chair of its board, and his brother Costa, who is the CEO, grew up in Bethany. They moved to Texas around 1975 or 76 when Tom was in high school. He attended Western Oaks Junior High and Putnam City West in the Bethany area. Tom and Costa's dad worked for the Volkswagon Dealership on N.W. 39th Expressway. Fossil is now a billion and a half dollar company based in Richardson, Texas. It would be cool if Tom and Costa showed up for the grand opening.

Bigray in Ok

They've been stirring dirt over there for a month. Glad they are coming. Not so looking forward to Council/Reno/I-40 traffic turning into the same as MacArthur and Meridian since I go through there once a day or so.

This may not be super exciting on a personal level for some, but it's really good for OKC's tax revenue. Up til now, with the exception of the Quail Springs area, all the retail development in the outer ring has gone to the suburb cities.

Yes, in reality this is a very big deal for the city. These outlet malls draw people from outside of OKC which in turn will give us millions in new tax dollars. Not to mention this is the biggest commercial retail development OKC has seen in a long time.

Was reading in the new OKC Biz. Says they have Saks off 5th, Brooks Brothers, Tommy Hilfiger, Jones NY, Nine West, Nike, Carter's, Banana Republic, Gap, Coach and others confirmed, 80% leased.

This is the final death nail in the coffin for Gainesville Prime Outlets. They had been living off Oklahoma for years. DFW folk who were going there, now go to San Marcus Outlets which are much much better.

This is the final death nail in the coffin for Gainesville Prime Outlets. They had been living off Oklahoma for years. DFW folk who were going there, now go to San Marcus Outlets which are much much better.

Who is going to ride the Heartland Flyer now?

This is the final death nail in the coffin for Gainesville Prime Outlets. They had been living off Oklahoma for years. DFW folk who were going there, now go to San Marcus Outlets which are much much better.

Uh, DFW has all the shopping under the sun, not to mention Grapevine Mills. I doubt too many of them are shopping there unless they are headed to SA or Austin.

metro, while I agree with you - I think OUrulz was referring to Gainsville Outlets and the fact that OKC people have been going there but now with OKC's new Outlet Center. That AND considering the fact that DFW people (outlet shoppers) probably now go to San Marcus - it would be the death of Gainsville.

Probably be similar to the death of Winstar once Tx allows casinos

Dallas has had Grapevine Mills for quite awhile. It is what seemed to kill it. OKC won't help, that's for sure. Gainseville will still draw from their immediate area, but not like 10 years ago.

yep, with OKC gettin an outlet, there's no reason for OK people to go down there anymore.

Does Tulsa have an outlet mall or will OKC's be the ONLY in the state? Does Kansas (Wichita area) have one?

Anyone know if there is going to be a Columbia store?

yep, with OKC gettin an outlet, there's no reason for OK people to go down there anymore.

Does Tulsa have an outlet mall or will OKC's be the ONLY in the state? Does Kansas (Wichita area) have one? Tulsa does not have an outlet mall. This will be the only one in the State. As far as OK people going down to Texas for outlet shopping, I can see it still happening as Grapvine Mills has Neiman's Last Call and Allen Mall having Nordstrom Rack, if I am not mistaken. If it is not there in Allen then Nordstrom Rack is on Park Lane in Dallas. The outlet mall in OKC is not going to have either one of them.

perhaps, but it will not be in the level that it has been, and thus would severely hurt N. Texas a bit.

I think we can finally start to see the end to OKC's defacto status as "Dallas's biggest suburb." ......

perhaps, but it will not be in the level that it has been, and thus would severely hurt N. Texas a bit.

I think we can finally start to see the end to OKC's defacto status as "Dallas's biggest suburb." ......

Um, Fort Worth is quite a bit larger than Oklahoma City

Um, Fort Worth is quite a bit larger than Oklahoma City

Eh. It's not that much bigger really....

Fort Worth Population
- City 727,575
Oklahoma City Population
- City 560,332

Eh. It's not that much bigger really....

Fort Worth Population
- City 727,575
Oklahoma City Population
- City 560,332
Only a nearly 30% difference? That's nothing. :rolleyes:

Swake, I was referring to the cliche (sp?) that some Texans often say, that "OKC is Dallas' biggest suburb" due to their economic impact on the Big D since nothing is in OKC.. ...

Ft Worth may have a larger central city but OKC's metro population (1.3M+) probably has had more of an impact on the Dallas retail economy - (hence the cliche) which I think is slowly but surely beginning to change as OKC continues to land 'big city' retail options. ...

And like others have mentioned, Ft Worth would be considered a peer of OKC (similar population) if it were not part of DFW, but since it is - - -

It's kind of like Tacoma and St. Paul, both are amazing cities on their own but due to proximity to much larger/more prominent cities - they don't get much press.

I just got back from the Outlet mall in Allen, Texas. Was definitely impressed. Makes me excited for our nike outlet, but makes me wish we had a Polo and Adidas coming in as well.


And from what i saw, I have no idea why people from dallas would go to an outlet mall somewhere else. The one in allen was definetly top notch.

I wonder how much impact these types of malls have long term. Gainsville is all but dead. The huge mall in Stroud was all but dead before the tornado took it. I just hope 15 years from now it's still thriving.

Are there any updates to any new stores that have signed leases?

I wonder how much impact these types of malls have long term. Gainsville is all but dead. The huge mall in Stroud was all but dead before the tornado took it. I just hope 15 years from now it's still thriving.

Probably the reasons gainseville and stroud struggled because they were far away from larger cities. With this being in okc, it will have a steadier flow of shoppers. Plus, the stroud outlets had a terrible tenant lineup

Does Kansas (Wichita area) have one?

There's a small one in Newton, KS, I believe. About on par with the former Stroud outlet.

I've thought that the rationale for outlets was drastically diminished by the Internet.

Probably the reasons gainseville and stroud struggled because they were far away from larger cities. With this being in okc, it will have a steadier flow of shoppers. Plus, the stroud outlets had a terrible tenant lineup
That has been the trend, I think they figured out that between major markets was not optimal. Some markets have been better positioned than Gainesville, Hillsboro or Stroud or the other ones that I have seen that are located far outside major metro areas. The San Marcos outlets have been there a long time but had the luxury of both Austin and San Antonio growing into each other as well as in other directions.

So, my apologies for not paying attention, but did they ever get financing..I know the city's deadline for that is coming up, and the deal was contingent on it.

They broke ground before the financing was finalized, but at the last city council meeting that this was on the agenda at, the developer promised he was working on financing.

Who is going to ride the Heartland Flyer now?

I realize you're joking, but people don't ride the HF to go to Gainesville. It is doing very well in the ridership department, however.

I realize you're joking, but people don't ride the HF to go to Gainesville. It is doing very well in the ridership department, however.
Ummm, don't know what the percentages are, but there are those that do just that and it is listed as one of the stops http://www.heartlandflyer.com/destinations/ and the Outlet is featured


Gainesville now has free trolley service available Friday through Sunday. Friday & Saturday hours of operation are from 11:am to 9:pm and Sundays from 11:am to 6:pm. The trolley services the train depot, downtown, Frank Buck Zoo, and the Gainesville Factory Shops and all local hotels. Mon- Fri. TAPS bus will transport to the Factory shops from the depot. TAPS will also provide service back to the Depot from the Factory Shops at 4:30 Mon-Fri.

Wow.

Mods?

Who in the hell is this JacobDylan dude. People who pull this site spamming crap ought to have their fingers mangled so they never use a keyboard again!

Aw what'd i miss? LOL

Would this be the same JacobDylan that posted pics of human waste and female body parts in the "What if the Oklahoman went away" thread? I don't really understand the motive of people like that? Yay I grossed people out! Congrats, you've done what most of us mastered in junior high!

They've been stirring dirt over there for a month. Glad they are coming. Not so looking forward to Council/Reno/I-40 traffic turning into the same as MacArthur and Meridian since I go through there once a day or so.

Rockwell helps alleviate some of the traffic at the MacArthur/Reno intersection.

That won't be the case with the new mall. Rockwell will still help some but not nearly as much. The mall will likely have 2 entrances on the north side and hopefully 1 on the west side. There had better be or traffic will be much worse. I suppose they could extend third street west but there are businesses there and 3rd would probably have to go to the south of the businesses which is not ideal. The street that loops through the area and back to Reno doesn't look big enough to handle anything more than local traffic.

Either way traffic should be a nightmare at reno and council and even worse when it rains hard (those of you in the area know what I am talking about). Anyone agree with this? Well let me modify my statement...traffic at Rockwell and Reno will be a nightmare when it rains hard because if a motorist is smart they avoid Council in that situation.

Anyone know if the city plans to improve drainage at Council and Reno for this mall?

well im glad i didnt see that stuff, maybe the moderator got ride of him.. Back to the outlet mall thing.. any more news of retailers that have not yet been mention on this board going into the outlet? I think it would be neat to adda rainforest cafe around the outlet area and maybe a movie theater and entertainment stuff...

I doubt we'll see a movie theatre. There is already a fairly new one at I-40 and Garth Brooks.

didnt even know about a new theater, thats how much i head out in the west end of the metro.