Spirit Of Oklahoma? Oklahoma Owned?

Yet, they refuse to air the anniversary ceremony in favor of broadcasting a rerun of Regis and Kelly (minus Regis).:please:

Seriously, how many people, this many years later, would really sit down to watch the aniversary ceremony? I know, I know, several bleeding hearts here will proudly proclaim they would. That's great. But obviously Ch9 felt otherwise and I agree. At some point the anniversary has to become a footnote and not a ceremony. Yeah, I'm heartless.

Disclaimer-I am not an employee, nor am I in any way affiliated with NEWS9 other than a couple of friends among the on-air staff.

That said, I know a decision to offer alternative programming was not made lightly. There are many (recall any story in the past 5 years about HHS employees) who are still struggling to come to terms with the tragedy of
April 19th, 1995. I choose to give Griffin Communications the benefit of the doubt and assume they are offering "comfort food" in a quick escape to "brainless TV" should watching meorial services on the other local channels become too overbearing.

Call it what you want. Say we all need to pack up and move in (very thoughtful, by the way). But I call a ceremony honoring (not grieiving) the 168 Oklahomans and/or Americans that lost their lives that die special. I'll let you tell the family members and friends of those 168 victims that there might be some people in this state that would rather watch THAT mindless dribble KWTV ran today.

If the memorial is that important to people, they should attend the ceremony. Nothing about that KWTV's programming decision changes that they are Oklahoma owned.

I know many that were effected by the bombing. For one, I lived in the Regency tower.

It is not like the ceremony was not covered. Why on Earth would every channel need to cover it? It is not like Ch9 is ignoring completely.

FYI: I have no problem telling some family member who lost someone that I have no problem with Ch9's decision.

I've got to disagree. Anytime a discussion of the local affiliates is started someone always brings up the point that KWTV is locally owned. However, they can't (won't) bring us a ceremony that marks the most disasterous yet (spiritually speaking) triumphant day in our state's history.

More often than not, KFOR gets railed against because it is currently owned by the New York Times. But local KWTV blows off the anniversary ceremony in favor of a show that airs FROM New York.

Just sayin'.

You're really making a major mountain out of a molehill.

Just sayin'.

Agree to disagree.

I just know if the roles had been reversed and KWTV had run it and the other two hadn't, there would come a day when someone would comment that it's because KWTV cares about Oklahomans and KFOR/KOCO doesn't.

I think most people that would watch it will be at it.

You have to understand the expense of sending a crew down there with a multi-camera set up to broadcast this would be very expensive. This is not a ten year or a 15 year, so I just don't think it would be worth it to them. Most people are working that time of day anyway.

I think most people that would watch it will be at it.

You have to understand the expense of sending a crew down there with a multi-camera set up to broadcast this would be very expensive. This is not a ten year or a 15 year, so I just don't think it would be worth it to them. Most people are working that time of day anyway.

Believe me, I know the expense (or lack thereof since most of the A/V was a pool feed).

As far as anyone that actually wanted to see it would go down there, we'll see when today's ratings come out.

Agree to disagree.
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I just know if the roles had been reversed and KWTV had run it and the other two hadn't, there would come a day when someone would comment that it's because KWTV cares about Oklahomans and KFOR/KOCO doesn't.
So your real gripe is not that KWTV didn't cover it but that people on this board didn't get their panties in a wad because KWTV didn't. So you exploited the memorial to score a cheap argument that some people on here are hypocrites. Nice.

Believe me, I know the expense (or lack thereof since most of the A/V was a pool feed).

Somebody had to pay for the equipment and the crew. If it wasn't them, then they would have to pay whoever did shoot it.

My opinion is there's no reason to broadcast the event. It's been twelve years.

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So your real gripe is not that KWTV didn't cover it but that people on this board didn't get their panties in a wad because KWTV didn't. So you exploited the memorial to score a cheap argument that some people on here are hypocrites. Nice.

No. I don't have a gripe at all. I just thought it would be nice for the proud citizens of Oklahoma City on this board to actually give praise to KOCO and KFOR for allowing everyone to witness the ceremony as opposed to the ritual kissing up to KWTV that appears to be the norm. Unfortunately, sometimes you have to ruffle a little feathers to make your point.

I give praise to KWTV for not covering the event and give no props to KOCO and KFOR for exploiting the event for their own gain.

No. I don't have a gripe at all. I just thought it would be nice for the proud citizens of Oklahoma City on this board to actually give praise to KOCO and KFOR for allowing everyone to witness the ceremony as opposed to the ritual kissing up to KWTV that appears to be the norm. Unfortunately, sometimes you have to ruffle a little feathers to make your point.

I would have never noticed this or who was airing it and who was not if it hadn't been brought up by you. In fact, It took me a while to figure out what anniversary you were even talking about.

I give praise to KWTV for not covering the event and give no props to KOCO and KFOR for exploiting the event for their own gain.

Wow.


I would have never noticed this or who was airing it and who was not if it hadn't been brought up by you. In fact, It took me a while to figure out what anniversary you were even talking about.


Double Wow.

Double Wow.

I'm sorry I'm at work and not home flipping channels to see what stations are airing the memorial service.

How many memorial services for Pearl Harbor preempt normal programming? I'm sure there will be a news story about it, but I think start-to-finish coverage of the ceremony is a bit much. At some point the majority of the populace moves on. For the remainder, they should go down there and attend in person.

If the fact that they didn't cover the memorial service bothers you, don't watch the channel. I don't really see what the big deal is about a local station not covering it. They chose not to - end of story. There were alternate channels to watch if you wanted to see the memorial. Just because NEWS9 didn't show it live and complete doesn't mean they are "bad"; it just means they didn't find it particularly newsworthy. That's fine - go watch channel 4 or 5. I for one am not going to change my news viewing habits just because of this.

It doesn't matter who did or did not cover it. The fact is, each station made the decision based on MONEY. News9 didn't air the ceremony because they felt they could make MORE MONEY from airing alternative programming. Its unfortunate that a station that markets itself as locally owned would blow off a ceremony that means so much to so many Oklahomans but this is a business and MONEY has the ultimate voice.

Maybe all TV should cover the War in Iraq with nonstop coverage. We have military men and women dying daily over there and it barely makes the news.

I'm sorry I'm at work and not home flipping channels to see what stations are airing the memorial service.

How well does Griffin pay, anyway?

I am not on his payroll. You'll have to ask him.

It doesn't matter who did or did not cover it. The fact is, each station made the decision based on MONEY. News9 didn't air the ceremony because they felt they could make MORE MONEY from airing alternative programming. Its unfortunate that a station that markets itself as locally owned would blow off a ceremony that means so much to so many Oklahomans but this is a business and MONEY has the ultimate voice.
Of course it could have been that they were simply responding to what the majority of their viewers wanted... that seems to be a fact that escapes you and your sooner bred friend.

All this crying about KWTV not carrying the memorial is pretty lame. :lame:

Of course it could have been that they were simply responding to what the majority of their viewers wanted... that seems to be a fact that escapes you and your sooner bred friend.

All this crying about KWTV not carrying the memorial is pretty lame. :lame:


Going with what more viewers would tune in too translates to higher ratings and more money. You know you're right when those who want to call you an idiot post a response that backs up you view. Thanks PUGalicious

Oklahoma owned or not all KWTV cares about is money, PERIOD. Those who are blinded by their promos and think they care about Oklahomans are the REAL idiots.

Oklahoma owned or not all KWTV cares about is money, PERIOD.
There's not one television station in this market, with the possible exception of OETA, that doesn't care about money. It's still a business, Oklahoma-owned or not. I didn't hear of any Oklahoma-owned companies halting operations or closing their offices — even for an hour — in memoriam of the anniversary. That must mean that all these other Oklahoman-owned company only care about money, PERIOD, according to your logic.



Those who are blinded by their promos and think they care about Oklahomans are the REAL idiots.
I'm not at all blinded by KWTV's promos. I don't even like KWTV, except to watch their weather coverage or helicopter views of breaking news events. I have no loyalty to anyone at that station. However, I do applaud their courage to rise above the irrational hysteria of some to make its own decisions regarding its programming — whether it's solely based on ratings and money or it's based on viewer satisfaction.

By the way, did you go down to the memorial service? Anyone "truly" outraged by KWTV's decision would have been down at the memorial service because they understand what it means to "truly" honor the memory of those lost on that tragic day — not counting on the profit-lusting media to cover the event so they don't have the inconvenience of actually showing up.

And the local stations wondered why we the public pay for cable, or buy Satellite Radio Services,hmmmm!
I had wondered why Cox hadn't used its local broadcast stations to bring the Remeberance Ceremony to us.

i'll try to remember that oeta doesn't care about money the next time it bombards its viewers with another week-long 'festival'... :P

all kidding aside, i think this is a non-issue. did kwtv make a decision based on money? sure... but so did koco and kfor. if anyone wants to point their finger at kwtv for being callous by not covering the event, then you'd better point that finger at koco and kfor for both capitalizing off of it. i fail to understand why choosing to or not choosing to cover an event (even a sentimental one) makes a villain out of a particular company.

did oeta break away from programming? if not, i'm never giving them another $150 for a $20 cookbook ever again. then who's gonna be the one looking stupid.

-M

I can pretty much guarantee you that if KWTV had planned to air it, the other two would have stayed away. There's most definitely not an audience to spread across three stations for this.

FYI-

KFOR won the 9am hour yesterday.

Guess there are SOME people that still care.:rolleyes:

FYI-

KFOR won the 9am hour yesterday.

Guess there are SOME people that still care.:rolleyes:
Did you care enough to actually attend the service yesterday?

There's not enough people watching for 3 networks to air the exact same thing.

Did you care enough to actually attend the service yesterday?

No I didn't. You see, I was at work but was able to watch it on television (on a non-"Oklahoma Owned" station). Did you care enough to watch it, or do they not allow the viewing of other stations at Griffin?

No I didn't. You see, I was at work but was able to watch it on television (on a non-"Oklahoma Owned" station). Did you care enough to watch it, or do they not allow the viewing of other stations at Griffin?
If you really cared so much about the observance of the memorial service, you would have attended. But you were obviously worried more about your pocket book that the principle of remembrance that you demand of KWTV.


Did you care enough to watch it, or do they not allow the viewing of other stations at Griffin?
I couldn't tell you if they allow the viewing of other stations at Griffin. I don't work there. But I can turn the TV in my office to whatever channel I want, Oklahoma-owned and non-Oklahoma owned. I was not watching the coverage of the memorial service; I was not watching KWTV; I was watching one of the cable news channels. After the tenth anniversary, I no longer attend or watch the yearly service. I have chosen to move forward.

All of our news is driven by money in this country. Where have you been?

Give a listen or watch to something like BBC World News sometime. The difference is shocking.