He owns 3 or 4 homes according to the county assessor but I believe this is his principle residence.
http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/sketches/picfile/2715/R062626520001uA.jpg

He owns 3 or 4 homes according to the county assessor but I believe this is his principle residence.
http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/sketches/picfile/2715/R062626520001uA.jpg

I guess you missed this quote Einstein....
I live on the Coyne "compound" ... I do think it's very nice of you not to post their address. It's easy enough to find as it is.

And, yes, I know its a public record. That's exactly how I verified his address, I just wasn't oblivious enough to his privacy to give lazy creepy fans the address, photos and more. Especially considering he Tweets when he's out of town!

Brian, I know you mean well. But seriously, Wayne Coyne has made no secret of his house and it's a weird, odd sort of Graceland for his fans. In visiting with him, I've gotten the impression that if his residence in Classen-10-Penn/Plaza District brings visitors to the area and maybe they spend time and money in the Plaza District or even decide to buy or rent a house in the neighborhood, then he's pretty happy with people knowing he's there. I suspect he's got appropriate security for his "compound" - maybe at least an armed Santa and some Martians.
Now, let's give this discussion a different spin. The Plaza District has seen a huge resurgence since this thread started in 2007, and Coyne's stature in this town has seen a similar rise. Is one linked to the other? Or is it more complex than that?

Steve, I don't disagree with much of any of that as long as I put on the blinders you apparently did when you ignored the very specific quote where someone living on the property expressed a desire NOT to have the specific address posted. Coyne may choose to post naked pics of his wife on his Twitter account, but I certainly don't see where posting a link to his exact address does anything but cause problems when problems are not warranted.

Yes, but that was two years ago. I guess what I'm saying is that quote is out of date. The address was printed repeatedly in newspapers and on websites during the recent architectural tour. To use a cliche - the cat is out of the bag. You've got good intentions. The others do too.
What do you think though of my last question?

The Plaza District has seen a huge resurgence since this thread started in 2007, and Coyne's stature in this town has seen a similar rise. Is one linked to the other? Or is it more complex than that?

I think its a matter of one's perspective. I personally think Coyne's presence has very little to do with the overall progress seen in reviving the area. As I stated before I didn't even know that very cool (though sadly unkept) home was his residence. I also have attended meetings in the area and been asked to address groups tied to the area and have never once seen him present or mentioned. That said, I certainly don't think it hurts and I'm sure it has had some positive impact beyond 'odd trivia.' So, in short, I'll go with "it is more complex than that."

I guess you missed this quote Einstein....

And, yes, I know its a public record. That's exactly how I verified his address, I just wasn't oblivious enough to his privacy to give lazy creepy fans the address, photos and more. Especially considering he Tweets when he's out of town!

No I didn't see that quote but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. If they were all that concerned with anonymity they wouldn't have put their name on the property and instead placed it in a trust. However I am sure because of my haphazardness the word is out now as to their whereabouts. Now that the genie is out of the bottle they better move, huh ?

Brian, I know you mean well. But seriously, Wayne Coyne has made no secret of his house and it's a weird, odd sort of Graceland for his fans. In visiting with him, I've gotten the impression that if his residence in Classen-10-Penn/Plaza District brings visitors to the area and maybe they spend time and money in the Plaza District or even decide to buy or rent a house in the neighborhood, then he's pretty happy with people knowing he's there. I suspect he's got appropriate security for his "compound" - maybe at least an armed Santa and some Martians.
Now, let's give this discussion a different spin. The Plaza District has seen a huge resurgence since this thread started in 2007, and Coyne's stature in this town has seen a similar rise. Is one linked to the other? Or is it more complex than that?

Coyne's rise is independent of the Plaza, IMO.

Coyne's rise is independent of the Plaza, IMO.

Well, yeah... I was asking more along the lines of whether The Plaza's rise is linked at all to Coyne's rise locally.

As a localite, OKCian for years, I don't link the two whatsoever. Might be because I've been a fan of Wayne for about 8 years now, though, so my perspective is Wayne-centric.

Brian, I know you mean well. But seriously, Wayne Coyne has made no secret of his house and it's a weird, odd sort of Graceland for his fans. In visiting with him, I've gotten the impression that if his residence in Classen-10-Penn/Plaza District brings visitors to the area and maybe they spend time and money in the Plaza District or even decide to buy or rent a house in the neighborhood, then he's pretty happy with people knowing he's there. I suspect he's got appropriate security for his "compound" - maybe at least an armed Santa and some Martians.
Now, let's give this discussion a different spin. The Plaza District has seen a huge resurgence since this thread started in 2007, and Coyne's stature in this town has seen a similar rise. Is one linked to the other? Or is it more complex than that?

Wow, so Wayne Coyne saved the Plaza District? Who knew? I'm sure all of the property owners and Main Street association members had something to do with it.

His presence there has certainly lifted my perception of the area. Before I knew he lived there and an young person told me they were thinking about buying in the areas I would have thrown a kaniption fit, begging them not to. Now I would be only concerned with the house itself instead of the neighborhood.

His presence there has certainly lifted my perception of the area. Before I knew he lived there and an young person told me they were thinking about buying in the areas I would have thrown a kaniption fit, begging them not to. Now I would be only concerned with the house itself instead of the neighborhood.

Wayne has been quoted as describing, and is almost proud of, the neighborhood being a piece of crap still, despite his presence.

Don't you imagine that he would like it to improve and that he would like to be a catalyst for that?

No I didn't see that quote but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. If they were all that concerned with anonymity they wouldn't have put their name on the property and instead placed it in a trust. However I am sure because of my haphazardness the word is out now as to their whereabouts. Now that the genie is out of the bottle they better move, huh ?

I don't think it's the "rocket scientists" or patrons of the architectural home tour that he'd be concerned about. Regardless, you can't provide a single valid reason for posting such specific info. Anyway, I'm over it. Don't really know why I care. I'm not a fan of the music and don't know the man.

Also while 16th street may have seen some improvement, you go just one block South and it's all ghetto.

Don't you imagine that he would like it to improve and that he would like to be a catalyst for that?

Honestly, I've read a bit about Wayne, and I think he'd just want it to be what it is, whatever that might be. He sees humanity, beauty, and just interesting things in the ghetto. If it improved significantly, I'm sure he'd see the beauty in the rebirth and repurposing of a once-forgotten part of town he grew up in...

But something tells me he's not going to lead the charge to make that area popular for middle class professionals.

Honestly, I've read a bit about Wayne, and I think he'd just want it to be what it is, whatever that might be. He sees humanity, beauty, and just interesting things in the ghetto. If it improved significantly, I'm sure he'd see the beauty in the rebirth and repurposing of a once-forgotten part of town he grew up in...

But something tells me he's not going to lead the charge to make that area popular for middle class professionals.

I drove around just south of the Plaza district on Thursday and there was a dead dog in the yard on a corner lot. Went by again two days later and it was still there.

Why didn't you call animal control?

Why didn't you call animal control?

While I agree with this question, I have called animal control years ago a couple of times to report dead animals on the road---the lady on the other end didn't seem to care. She made it clear that their priority was live animals.

I hope it's changed since.

I don't think it's the "rocket scientists" or patrons of the architectural home tour that he'd be concerned about. Regardless, you can't provide a single valid reason for posting such specific info. Anyway, I'm over it. Don't really know why I care. I'm not a fan of the music and don't know the man.

Glad your over it, my intent wasn't to " out " his address and I honestly hadn't seen the quote you referred to. I just figured since the discussion on the topic somewhat revolved around the architecture of Wayne's home people might want to see what it looked like. I personally don't see the attraction to him or his music for that matter, it is nice that he is from OKC but I have never been a fan myself.

The Plaza had a "Plant the Plaza" Day back in March/April and guess who walked over to help in the gardens and clean the area? Wayne. He actually stayed for quite awhile too...without the lure of the local media.
I have also seen Wayne out at more than one "Live on the Plaza" monthly art walks...he also wanted to (and did) interview on Plaza's official video (http://plazadistrict.org/).
I think it's pretty safe to say that he is a big advocate of the area...and not afraid to admit he lives there, regardless of how "ghetto" people here say it is.

While I agree with this question, I have called animal control years ago a couple of times to report dead animals on the road---the lady on the other end didn't seem to care. She made it clear that their priority was live animals.

I hope it's changed since.I used the web site to report dead animals and was impressed with the service.

As a regular on the Architecture Tour, I can say only this: been there, noted the address, didn't bring it up again.

2 years ago, he invited his entire list of "friends" on Myspace to come over to his compound on Halloween to experience his "500 lb. Brain" that was displayed in a giant circus tent. It's common knowledge.

And as to Steves question, while I think the success of the two are independant, I can see the two joining forces. Perhaps with some sort of art festival on 16th street.

You could also suggest that Auto Alley has gained some credibility from his involvement with "Ghouls Gone Wild" with that logic.

2 years ago, he invited his entire list of "friends" on Myspace to come over to his compound on Halloween to experience his "500 lb. Brain" that was displayed in a giant circus tent. It's common knowledge.

The tent was set up in a vacant lot on Blackwelder a block from his house.

I believe it was still on his property though, ie: compound.

I like to refer to it as "Wayne Manor"

NYT Article on the Coyne Compound... http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/magazine/wayne-coynes-oklahoma-compound.html?_r=1&src=tp

Guys, the Classen-Ten-Penn neighborhood is NOT as bad as you guys make it out to be. It has seen strong beginning signs of improvement, although I think it's future has new (perhaps unsurmountable) challenges, such as moving all of the homeless services to the western edge of this neighborhood.

I think at some point we will need more tear-down neighborhoods, especially once SoSA (fills up) because of how wildly popular that concept has become, and the worst neighborhoods in between nice neighborhoods close to downtown are perfectly positioned for this. Classen-Ten-Penn and Youngs-Englewood might be perfect, as there are already very few examples of infill in these neighborhoods. Also these hoods could be along what ends up being a restored streetcar line down either 16th or 23rd, or perhaps even both. For those who haven't checked out some of the neighborhoods spanning 16th all the way up to Portland, you should--all excellent examples of old streetcar suburbs, as those neighborhoods were originally built along a line that meandered all the way out there.

What are the boundaries of Ten-Penn? Personally, from Linwood (north) to 15th, and Penn (east) to Western is a total hell hole - and yes, I lived in the middle of those parameters for a few years and I'm in the area at least once a week - scary stuff.

CTP is bounded by the Plaza District, down to 10th, from Classen over to Penn. It is just what the name suggests, shockingly...lol

Metro Park is the neighborhood between 10th and Linwood. Linwood is obviously a hellhole. 10th has a lot of potential now that they did a really nice streetscape all the way to Penn, and I suspect the Peace Park will happen eventually.

What are the boundaries of Ten-Penn? Personally, from Linwood (north) to 15th, and Penn (east) to Western is a total hell hole - and yes, I lived in the middle of those parameters for a few years and I'm in the area at least once a week - scary stuff.

Yea, I live just across 16th and can vouch for that...that hood is rough with very little housing stock that is salvageable.

Guys, the Classen-Ten-Penn neighborhood is NOT as bad as you guys make it out to be. It has seen strong beginning signs of improvement, although I think it's future has new (perhaps unsurmountable) challenges, such as moving all of the homeless services to the western edge of this neighborhood.

I think at some point we will need more tear-down neighborhoods, especially once SoSA (fills up) because of how wildly popular that concept has become, and the worst neighborhoods in between nice neighborhoods close to downtown are perfectly positioned for this. Classen-Ten-Penn and Youngs-Englewood might be perfect, as there are already very few examples of infill in these neighborhoods. Also these hoods could be along what ends up being a restored streetcar line down either 16th or 23rd, or perhaps even both. For those who haven't checked out some of the neighborhoods spanning 16th all the way up to Portland, you should--all excellent examples of old streetcar suburbs, as those neighborhoods were originally built along a line that meandered all the way out there.

The street car went on 19th street all the way to MERIDIAN, where it terminated.

Oh, and that New York Times Magazine piece on Wayne Coyne's house is hilarious.

I noticed that he, Russell Westbrook and I have the same "hot tub". I feel like I am in rarified company.

Oh, and that New York Times Magazine piece on Wayne Coyne's house is hilarious.

Agreed. The photograph is priceless.

The street car went on 19th street all the way to MERIDIAN, where it terminated.In 1940, the streetcar line ended one block west of Independence. The rails went on down to the non-electrified track that ran where I44 is now located in that area, but there was a de-railer installed just before the curve. The line didn't go as far as Portland, much less Meridian. The route was out Linwood to Virginia, then up Virginia and Penn to NW 12, out 12th just past May, curving to Drexel, up Drexel to 19th, and out 19th to end-of-line where the motorman would pull down one trolley, raise the other, and flip all the seats over. I rode it rather often when my family would go downtown to shop -- no shopping centers existed that far out in those days...

For that matter, NW 19 itself didn't go all the way to Meridian. About half a mile west of Portland, it angled northwest and intersected NW 23 at Meridian. In the late 40s, it was still unpaved in that area, and development west of Portland hadn't even begun.

In 1940, the streetcar line ended one block west of Independence. The rails went on down to the non-electrified track that ran where I44 is now located in that area, but there was a de-railer installed just before the curve. The line didn't go as far as Portland, much less Meridian. The route was out Linwood to Virginia, then up Virginia and Penn to NW 12, out 12th just past May, curving to Drexel, up Drexel to 19th, and out 19th to end-of-line where the motorman would pull down one trolley, raise the other, and flip all the seats over. I rode it rather often when my family would go downtown to shop -- no shopping centers existed that far out in those days...

For that matter, NW 19 itself didn't go all the way to Meridian. About half a mile west of Portland, it angled northwest and intersected NW 23 at Meridian. In the late 40s, it was still unpaved in that area, and development west of Portland hadn't even begun.

It was built later, in the 1950s. Cognitive dissonance. And yes, it terminated at NW 23rd and Meridian.

I trust you mean when NW 19 was paved from Portland to Meridian. The last streetcar line (Belle Isle/Culbertson) shut down in '47 or '48; I graduated from Classen in '48 and the trolley was gone by then, although in the fall of '46 I took the trolley to get to school for several months while my parents shopped for a house to buy. The Linwood line had shut down some time earlier; I don't remember when but it may well have been during WW2 when many of the rails were ripped up for the war effort. I wasn't in OKC during those years...

Judging by those photos in the NY Times article, I picture his compound as a cross between the Wonka chocolate factory and Austin Power's bachelor pad. I wouldn't be surprised to see an Oompa-Loompa or two roaming around in there. :smile:

Generally confirming what Jim said about the end of the trolleys, what remained of the city trolley lines ended by April 1947, and all interurbans but the Norman line ended in November 1946, the latter interurban's last run to Norman being September 27, 1947. Allison & Chandler's fine book, When Oklahoma Took the Trolleys (Interurbans 1980) shows the trolley and interurban lines as follows (click on an image for a larger view -- I've color coded the lines in the 2nd picture):

Original Map and then as color coded

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/trolleys/whenoktooktrolley_map02_250.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/trolleys/whenoktooktrolley_map02_768.jpg) http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/trolleys/whenoktooktrolley_map02x_250.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/trolleys/whenoktooktrolley_map02x.jpg)

About the path of NW 19th Street, I'm not able to find any maps which show the portion west of Grand Boulevard circa 1940-1950 ... that area was not then part of Oklahoma City proper, so it won't show up in the Sanborn maps, nor does the area appear in the "Manley's Map" first published in the mid-1930s and updated through the latter 1940s. I have no other resources which would track the location of NW 19th west of Grand Boulevard during the time period involved in this discussion. If I run across any, I make another comment.

While I agree with this question, I have called animal control years ago a couple of times to report dead animals on the road---the lady on the other end didn't seem to care. She made it clear that their priority was live animals.

I hope it's changed since.

Maybe they don't have much of a priority with live animals, either. Last year I adopted a homeless cat that was said to have lived in the streets of the Asian District for at least a year.

Allison & Chandler's fine book, When Oklahoma Took the Trolleys (Interurbans 1980) shows the trolley and interurban lines as follows (click on an image for a larger view -- I've color coded the lines in the 2nd picture)I see one error on the map, Doug: it shows the Linwood line ending on NW 20. It was definitely NW 19; I lived on NW 21 in 1939-40 just east of Independence. Map makers often introduce deliberate errors into their maps, to trap copyright violators, so this may be such a case. It's easy to verify my statement, though, since NW 19 still has a median in that area while NW 20 does not.