Bostonfan
07-06-2009, 10:13 PM
What 4 stores are still there?
View Full Version : What would you replace Heritage Park Mall with? Bostonfan 07-06-2009, 10:13 PM What 4 stores are still there? Luke 07-06-2009, 10:22 PM Sears, Bath and Bodyworks, GameStop and... a flea market thing maybe? usmbubba 07-07-2009, 04:08 PM I think the A - Z outlet is gone, maybe the gift place across from Bath and Bodyworks or the food place?? scootinger 07-07-2009, 04:32 PM According to LoopNet - Heritage Park Mall For Sale, Regional Center/Mall, 6801 E. Reno, Midwest City, OK (http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/MainSite/Listing/Profile/Profile.aspx?LID=16299558&StepID=101&ItemIndex=1&PgCxtDir=Down) they are Gamestop, Bath&Body Works, Rainbow, and GNC. (I guess they don't count Sears as a tenant, since they own their own building?) bombermwc 07-07-2009, 04:32 PM GNC is still there mmonroe 07-10-2009, 06:49 PM Lets buy it! xd0nn4x 07-10-2009, 10:21 PM I say, we turn it into a Dave and busters type thing, alcohol and video games, sounds like a winner to me. Or a giant laser tag arena... yeah i need to grow up. Velvetaunt 07-14-2009, 02:18 PM Here's a suggestion. Since the Babyboomer is about to retire, things like retirement villages would bring in lots of money for the city. There could be one medical center to house those that can no longer care for themselves and small cottages for independent living. All surrounded by grass and trees, with ample parking of course. I could also see a facility for the needs of senior citizens. There could be a a pharmacy, a diabetes center, a foot doctor center, a health and nutrition center, doctor offices and walking trails inside, and also a one stop counseling center and a activities center would be good. I bet a developer could even get government funds to help pay for the project. Demographics is everything these days - I think Midwest City could support it. Vel bombermwc 07-15-2009, 09:08 AM There are already a few places in MWC for that. I can't remember the actual name...Autumn House or whatever, but that 6-7 floor place off Air Depot and Adair is an assisted living center. As well as the place off Air Depot just south of 10th. It looks like a big house, but it's not. These places aren't nursing homes, they are assisted living. There are also patio homes off of Douglas near Wonga (Bowling Green area). They aren't assisted living, but they are retirement homes. The condos near Conrad Golf Course are also an option for those that are more mobile. We do have a huge elderly population in MWC because of the origional mile. But I don't know that you'll convince those folks to move out. They'll stay in their little houses until they pass. We just went through a big bit of convincing my 90 year old grandparents to move to assisted living...and they only agreed because of some falls that caused injury. The older you get, the less cooperative you get with having someone move you. bombermwc 07-31-2009, 07:57 AM Oh anyone else notice that the old Ward's sign blew over? So now, not only do they not mow, but they don't pick up storm damage. I'm starting to hate this place. Thunder 07-31-2009, 08:41 AM Oh anyone else notice that the old Ward's sign blew over? So now, not only do they not mow, but they don't pick up storm damage. I'm starting to hate this place. I see that every day I drive by. I was going to mention it, but you beat me first. I wonder if the value dropped on the market price to sell? kay 07-31-2009, 08:44 PM Has anyone noticed the facade above the reno entrance is hanging precariously above the entrance? Yellow tape is supposed to keep people "safe" from falling debri. I can't imagine the roof is intact from that windstorm. I say bulldoze it before it falls down. dmoor82 07-31-2009, 09:48 PM Do it's a dead mall and has been for 10 years. It's a safe mall, but it's dead. There's nothing left except Sears (gotta keep that Craftsman stuff baby)! So what would be put in it's place? I've got two options that I think would work well. 1. Residential - just bulldoze the mall and replace it with housing development. Leave the couple of outparcels and Sears and you've got an already graded neighborhood with easy access through all the lights. Plus it provides the needed room for devlopment on the west side of MWC. Other devlopments on Air Depot less than a mile away filled up VERY quickly in what little space there was. 2. Mixed Use - there is no office space to speak of left in MWC. The MD Tower and Parklawn have been it for years and we need more. People build these little house looking complexes that use the space very inefficiently. MWC has been in need of more multistory office space for years (as shown by how the hospital has bought many small buildings around town since the space on Parklawn is full). So how about a couple 10 or so floor buildings? Maybe even make one of the a residential tower. MWC is in need of more upscale condo/apt. type developments as shown by Legacy being so popular. So again bulldoze and make some vertical space happen....plus it's always bugged me that Del City's bank tower is taller than anything in MWC, even if it is by only a couple floors....arg! Comments? Well I like # 2,MWC is getting alot of new housing additions and with the Reed cntr. and all the new hotels and also Town Center developments,MWC has come along way in just 10 years!but I would like to see a couple of tall towers there( when I mean tall I mean 10-15 st.)!Either residential or business! mmonroe 08-06-2009, 04:26 PM mmm i love tall buildings. so1rfan 08-09-2009, 10:38 PM http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7397/img0916v.jpg I can remember going through these doors many a time to go the movies. I think I saw Return of the Jedi there. http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6827/img0901z.jpg Sad but true. Thunder 08-10-2009, 03:23 AM Oh... OH!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!! :omg: I've totally forgotten all about those doors. I used to go thru that a lot for the movie theater just to the right side. Wow! I forgot that those doors actually existed! evh5150 08-10-2009, 06:45 AM Has anyone noticed the facade above the reno entrance is hanging precariously above the entrance? Yellow tape is supposed to keep people "safe" from falling debri. I can't imagine the roof is intact from that windstorm. I say bulldoze it before it falls down. people? what people? people still shop at heritage park mall? ..is there any stores left other than sears? bombermwc 08-10-2009, 09:07 AM There are a few down near sears. But you can count them on 1 hand. wayward1 08-22-2009, 10:56 PM i've been in mwc for 34 years...my whole life born and raised...what ever they put there if they do tear the mall down will be fine with me as long as it's not restaurants...jeeze it's like mwc hasnt got enough already.......build a barnes and noble.....build a borders...put in a new movie theatre so i dont have to drive to tinsletown or bricktown...just please no more restaurants......................................u nless it's a cracker barrell lol oneforone 08-27-2009, 12:26 PM The pizza place and Bath and Body works are gone. The wife talked to the sales staff at B&BW, they said they were closing and moving their staff and stock to Crossroads. They were going to stay until after Christmas but, they have lost too much merchandise to shop lifters and the mall no longer has Security staff. They plan on returning to Midwest City in the future once they find a place that will fit their needs. I drove by there a couple of days ago and some guy was mowing the lawn with a ratty old push mower. I think it is safe to say that heritage will probably close before the year is out. GNC and Gamestop are the only businesses that are seeing any real traffic. The cell phone stores and the jewelry stores are always dead when I go up there. Sears does not need the mall to stay in business they hold their own. On most of days that I shop there the mall entrance/exit is closed and locked. evh5150 08-28-2009, 09:29 AM i used to shop at jeans west, get pretzels from pretzel king, visit the pet store, play arcade games at aladdins, ahh..the memories. anyone remember when service merchandise used to be wilson's? or the children's traffic safety tests that were conducted by either the police or fire dept, and they set up little tricycles for kiddos to drive like they were cars. mugofbeer 08-28-2009, 01:04 PM Here is a link to a brochure showing an artists rendering of what has been done to a similarly outdated mall that was about a mile from where I lived in Denver. It is a huge success so far and is in a similar location type and socioeconomic area as MWC. This is the new type of shopping area cities should be going for. It kept a Macy's and a Sears store and redeveloped the entire remainder of the old Southglenn Mall. http://www.albdev.com/images/pics/26Mar08-SG-ICSCbrochure.pdf (scroll to get to the aerial view) oneforone 08-29-2009, 12:51 AM Here is a link to a brochure showing an artists rendering of what has been done to a similarly outdated mall that was about a mile from where I lived in Denver. It is a huge success so far and is in a similar location type and socioeconomic area as MWC. This is the new type of shopping area cities should be going for. It kept a Macy's and a Sears store and redeveloped the entire remainder of the old Southglenn Mall. http://www.albdev.com/images/pics/26Mar08-SG-ICSCbrochure.pdf (scroll to get to the aerial view) Redevelopments like that are popular in Denver. They did awesome job on what was once Stapleton Airport. Discover Stapleton | A Sustainable Community Near Downtown Denver (http://discover.stapletondenver.com/#/discover) mugofbeer 08-29-2009, 09:56 PM Denver is more urban and higher density than Oklahoma City. Both the Stapleton and the Lowry redevelopment projects have been highly successful. Southglenn Mall is similar to Heritage Park or Shephard Malls. Shephard Mall has been so successful as an employment center that you shouldn't do this unless the employers start to vacate. Heritage Park, however, could be done in a similar fashion. I could even see this for Northpark and areas between Chesapeake and the Broadway Extension along 63rd. TaoMaas 08-30-2009, 09:21 AM Someone really needs to revive Heritage Park Mall. Just yesterday, my wife and I were visiting a friend who lives just down the street from Penn Square Mall. Part of our Saturday plans were to go to Sears, but instead of fighting the traffic and the crowds at Penn Square, we opted to drive back across town and shop at the MWC Sears close to our home because it's a much more pleasant experience. What Heritage Park needs, IMHO, is mid-range stores. Look at who's lasted the longest in that location....Sears and Bath & Body Works. Plus, look at the surrounding businesses...Ace Hardware...Big Lots...Office Depot. That should be a huge clue as to what kind of stores can succeed in the mall. mugofbeer 08-30-2009, 01:29 PM Someone really needs to revive Heritage Park Mall. Just yesterday, my wife and I were visiting a friend who lives just down the street from Penn Square Mall. Part of our Saturday plans were to go to Sears, but instead of fighting the traffic and the crowds at Penn Square, we opted to drive back across town and shop at the MWC Sears close to our home because it's a much more pleasant experience. What Heritage Park needs, IMHO, is mid-range stores. Look at who's lasted the longest in that location....Sears and Bath & Body Works. Plus, look at the surrounding businesses...Ace Hardware...Big Lots...Office Depot. That should be a huge clue as to what kind of stores can succeed in the mall. I think that is why the appeal of malls has gone and the outdoor "Town center" concept has taken over. They are more flexible in that they can handle both big-box discounters as well as smaller, boutique types of stores - satisfying the needs/desires of both types of shoppers. With the Southglenn Mall in Denver, they left the Sears on one end and the Macy's on the other and tore everything else down and rebuilt it in the 'Town Center" concept with retail, apartments and condos. It has big box chains as well as smaller stores. In the center is a great new movie theater and around the edges are retail pad sites for small retail squares and restaurants. wayward1 08-30-2009, 03:19 PM heritage park mall should be replaced by a kick ass movie theatre....when i go on a date i'll take her to bricktown or tinsletown but theres lots of times i'd love to just drive around the corner and go to a movie when i'm bored......we should start a petition and have people write letters to the mayor of midwest city requesting this....the last thing midwest city needs is more restaurants or stores..theres plenty.................we need a movie theatre.. mmonroe 08-30-2009, 03:49 PM It would have to be ten times better than the Warren. The only problem with that area is that we have no connecting areas to main travel ways. ie Highways or connecting points of interests. If we could get some sort of line going down Reno of interesting connected buildings, we could probably have a great movie theater. Otherwise you have an island of interest that can't really be supported by the local crowd itself. Did that make sense? oneforone 08-30-2009, 05:02 PM The mall stores are down to GNC, Gamestop, Rainbow(an urban clothing store), GiftWorld (a Flea Market Gift Store), a cell phone center aisle kiosk, a jewelry center aisle Kiosk. I was there on Saturday. A small group of people were at the cell phone store and there was a small crowd at game stop. The rest of the stores were dead. Sears is the only place with high traffic. I predict the mall stores will close with in the next couple of months. It looks as if they are waiting for the remaining stores to finsh their leases. The interior lights were turned off and it appears no real effort is being made to correct the repairs from the storm damage pictured in a prior post. The old Ward's garage is full of broken down cars. Rumor has it the cars belong to the owner of the Ward's store who also owns an auto shop in Midwest City or somewhere nearby. bombermwc 08-31-2009, 02:40 PM As long as we dont lose Sears, I don't care what happens to the mall. Sears has too much good stuff in the way of appliances, tools, auto. oneforone 09-01-2009, 02:19 AM As long as we dont lose Sears, I don't care what happens to the mall. Sears has too much good stuff in the way of appliances, tools, auto. I was in there the other day and I talked to one of the managers. He said the company officers were in the store just a few weeks ago, they loved the store and loved the fact they were still cranking out great sales numbers in a dead mall. I will be really suprised if they ever move that store. They have way too many regulars that like the slow pace and great selection. The low overhead allows them to compete with other retailers in the area. If you love tools like I do, stop by frequently. I have got some killer deals on cordless drills and tool combo kits on closeout. You have to ask the clerks to help you find them because they are not always marked. Kathy and Debbi always take good care of me every time I am in there. Thunder 09-01-2009, 03:36 AM I've always wonder how in the world they crank out great sales numbers when every time I drive by, Sears' parking lots is barely having any cars. I take in account that most of those cars are owned by employees, so it is odd they crank out such numbers. Luke 09-01-2009, 05:20 AM I spoke to the GameStop guys a while back and they said that the Heritage Park GameStop was one of the higher revenue stores in the metro. Interesting. evh5150 09-01-2009, 06:29 AM I spoke to the GameStop guys a while back and they said that the Heritage Park GameStop was one of the higher revenue stores in the metro. Interesting. makes sense...THERES NOTHING TO DO IN MWC! ..no: arcade, movie theatre, mall. even the local skate rink that 20 years ago was somewhat decent has turned into a haven for hoodrats and wanna-be gangbangers. Even Walmart has packed-up its store and left town (that one on 23rd street feels a bit too Spencer-ish) The town is a delapitated dump-thanks in large by the recent departure of its adjacent GM plant. Its only saving grace at this point is the scant few eateries and shops along the 29th street revitalization effort. oneforone 09-01-2009, 08:52 AM I've always wonder how in the world they crank out great sales numbers when every time I drive by, Sears' parking lots is barely having any cars. I take in account that most of those cars are owned by employees, so it is odd they crank out such numbers. Simple.... Big Ticket Items. They make a killing on appliances, hand tools, lawn mowers and lawn tractors. Electronics, housewares and clothing keep them going during the slow months for the big ticket items. bombermwc 09-01-2009, 11:29 AM Wow evh, i don't think anyone could have come up with a more sterotypical and ABSOLUTELY WRONG evaluation of Midwest City. Thanks for showing how little you know about MWC and promptly speaking out of your butt. I'm not sure how many times I have to repeat this about Wal-Mart. They wanted to convert the one at Midwest to a super center much like the old one in Stillwater...basically add a food center on one end. MWC said no because the lot wasn't big enough to provide enough parking spots to meet the requirement per square foot of space. They have that requirement so people don't park in other store's lots. Wal-Mart COULD have bought up Albertson's, but instead, they chose to go to Del City and buy up cheaper land to build a fully new (and nicer) store. The one on 23rd is actually much more quiet than the one in Del City. There are fewer people so you can find what you need much easier. Now, we have an opporunity in Heritage, if someone would just DO IT. Dillard's is taken by Life Church. BUT we've still got Wards and Service Merchadise that we could get converted into a new theatre. Or even better yet. Bulldoze the middle of the mall...leave the Sears and start over. Put in the theater and some small shops in a town center style layout. Much like what was suggested from the Denver project. There are PLENTY stores that haven't made it to MWC yet, but with Town Center, we're attracting stores that don't exist elsewhere in the metro...especially restaurants. THere are soooooo many thigns that COULD be done there. UGH@ Thunder 09-01-2009, 11:34 AM bombermwc, actually Walmart wanted to build on the new 29th street shopping plaza and MWC said no. MWC did not want Walmart to relocate there, so Walmart decided to seek revenge by giving Del City the business. Luke 09-01-2009, 11:35 AM ...but instead, they chose to go to Del City and buy up cheaper land to build a fully new (and nicer) store. The Del City walmart is one of the highest revenue super walmarts in the nation, too. So, it worked out for everyone. Thunder 09-01-2009, 11:39 AM The Del City walmart is one of the highest revenue super walmarts in the nation, too. So, it worked out for everyone. Hell yeah! I enjoyed working there 7 months when it first opened. The news that we all kept getting that the store was #1! Now, it's one of the top. It's a surprise what Del City can do. I remember that for a while, everyone was authorized OVERTIME even tho it was before Christmas (way before). This one lady worked about 3 weeks straight with no days off, so she took advantage of that. TaoMaas 09-01-2009, 11:42 AM Bulldoze the middle of the mall...leave the Sears and start over. Put in the theater and some small shops in a town center style layout. +1 What do we lack in MWC? We need a theater and a bookstore. Add in a restaurant which has some after-hours action and an outside access and the mall will pay for itself. oneforone 09-01-2009, 11:51 AM bombermwc, actually Walmart wanted to build on the new 29th street shopping plaza and MWC said no. MWC did not want Walmart to relocate there, so Walmart decided to seek revenge by giving Del City the business. You forgot to mention the reason why MWC fought a the 29th Street Wal-Mart. At one point they were going to build it on the Oklahoma City side of 29th and Douglas. Midwest City try to convice Oklahoma City to de-annex the land to them so they would not lose the tax dollars. In the end Oklahoma City denied to de-annex the area. bombermwc 09-02-2009, 04:42 PM Thunder, I'm not sure where you heard that, but it's not true. Wal-Mart wouldn't have been interested...not to mention the fact there isn't and wasn't a parcel for them in that plan. Target has always been the plan because their building was bought by the hospital many years ago. Remember the hospital group is the one that actually built Town Center...not the city. It's money from the sell of MRMC back in the 90's. Target had an understanding and followed through with it...Wal-Mart wasn't involved. Wal-Mart did, however, have plans on 29th, farther east as oneforone mentioned. There was also supposed to be an Integris hospital built in the same area. That area has been contested over for decades, which is why nothing is developing there and we're stuck with the Frog Pond and the DHS or whatever that is. Wal-Mart built where it made the most sense...and everyone won. Does MWC really miss Wal-Mart...not really. They more than made up for it in the increase in sale dollars from Town Center compared to the previous taxes on the structures that used to be there. Thunder 09-02-2009, 05:23 PM It was what I was told by a friend that worked in the old store and confirmed by coworkers in the new store. Still, our reports on here is similiar. bombermwc 09-03-2009, 09:43 AM Well we all know how reliable a store employee is....My source is from the city, so I'm going to stick with that. gmwise 09-03-2009, 12:30 PM I would like to suggest a large green lightly wooden park. its sad to see the whatabuger is doing better then the whole mall. dances with cameras 09-03-2009, 02:31 PM I find it amazing that the storm damage at Heritage Park Mall (at El Chico) hasnt' been tended to at all. I was there a couple weeks ago just to see what was still open, and all that was there was a little yellow tape. OOPPS, hey kid, sorry you got hit in the head with a ceiling beam. Didn't you see the LITTLE YELLOW TAPE? Could be a good thing, though. The more of an eyesore HPM becomes, the more (hopefully) the city can become involved. gmwise 09-03-2009, 10:24 PM Dances: be careful some will decried the government telling the property owners how to "enjoy" their property, or how its earning a income...lol easternobserver 09-04-2009, 06:12 PM if property owners were responsible then the government wouldnt have to get involved. unfortunately, many property owners are slugs who are all too happy to milk money out of their investments and then leave behind dilapidated eyesores that do nothing but bring down the rest of the community. evh5150 09-04-2009, 06:45 PM Wow evh, i don't think anyone could have come up with a more sterotypical and ABSOLUTELY WRONG evaluation of Midwest City. Thanks for showing how little you know about MWC and promptly speaking out of your butt. Now, we have an opporunity in Heritage, if someone would just DO IT. Dillard's is taken by Life Church. BUT we've still got Wards and Service Merchadise that we could get converted into a new theatre. Or even better yet. Bulldoze the middle of the mall...leave the Sears and start over. nice suggestion you got there. so i guess when the crowds exit the theatres they can peruse the mall for sales on,..umm...,.uh..lets see here....video games?, handsoap?,dietary supplement pills? or cheap threads at rainbow?. of course, theres always sears in case those other stores dont appeal to them. evh5150 09-04-2009, 06:54 PM I was in there the other day and I talked to one of the managers. He said the company officers were in the store just a few weeks ago, they loved the store and loved the fact they were still cranking out great sales numbers in a dead mall. I will be really suprised if they ever move that store. They have way too many regulars that like the slow pace and great selection. The low overhead allows them to compete with other retailers in the area. If you love tools like I do, stop by frequently. I have got some killer deals on cordless drills and tool combo kits on closeout. You have to ask the clerks to help you find them because they are not always marked. Kathy and Debbi always take good care of me every time I am in there. mr. witherspoon has been working in appliances for over 25 years, hes a large reason for heritage sears' success in their big ticket items.. white man of tall staure, black haired, father of two, went to school with his son, steven. of course, bombermwc thinks i know diddle bout mwc, so well just let her go on thinking that. gmwise 09-04-2009, 08:26 PM if property owners were responsible then the government wouldnt have to get involved. unfortunately, many property owners are slugs who are all too happy to milk money out of their investments and then leave behind dilapidated eyesores that do nothing but bring down the rest of the community. I was being sarcastic in my comment.:k-bunny: TaoMaas 09-06-2009, 10:13 AM mr. witherspoon has been working in appliances for over 25 years, hes a large reason for heritage sears' success in their big ticket items.. white man of tall staure, black haired, father of two, went to school with his son, steven. of course, bombermwc thinks i know diddle bout mwc, so well just let her go on thinking that. Hmmm...we bought our appliances there because Sears had the best quality, best price, closest to our home. I may or may not have met Mr. Witherspoon. lol kevinpate 09-06-2009, 11:58 AM Maybe Sears ought to expand its space and its offerings. Doesn't sound much like folks hit the mall for many other reasons anyway. BricktownGuy 09-06-2009, 05:26 PM Its for sale... so maybe something will happen? lol oneforone 09-06-2009, 11:15 PM Thunder, I'm not sure where you heard that, but it's not true. Wal-Mart wouldn't have been interested...not to mention the fact there isn't and wasn't a parcel for them in that plan. Target has always been the plan because their building was bought by the hospital many years ago. Remember the hospital group is the one that actually built Town Center...not the city. It's money from the sell of MRMC back in the 90's. Target had an understanding and followed through with it...Wal-Mart wasn't involved. Wal-Mart did, however, have plans on 29th, farther east as oneforone mentioned. There was also supposed to be an Integris hospital built in the same area. That area has been contested over for decades, which is why nothing is developing there and we're stuck with the Frog Pond and the DHS or whatever that is. Wal-Mart built where it made the most sense...and everyone won. Does MWC really miss Wal-Mart...not really. They more than made up for it in the increase in sale dollars from Town Center compared to the previous taxes on the structures that used to be there. MWC still has a Wal-Mart. The store at 23rd and Douglas is in MWC limits. the MWC line ends just past the Wal-Mart. oneforone 09-06-2009, 11:33 PM Rumor has it that the mall itself has a serious mold problem. It's to the point to where a major renovation will have to take place to get rid of it. If that is the case, the mall will probably see the wrecking ball as soon as some purchases it. kd5ili 09-07-2009, 01:04 PM Not only is it for sale, but the price has been reduced: LoopNet - Heritage Park Mall For Sale, Regional Center/Mall, 6801 E. Reno, Midwest City, OK (http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/MainSite/Listing/Profile/Profile.aspx?LID=16299558&StepID=101&ItemIndex=1&PgCxtDir=Down) At $3,750,000 or $17.77 per square foot, it may be a better deal as land rather than a structure. This property has been listed on deadmalls.com for years now (Dead Malls dot Com: Feature: Heritage Park Mall: Midwest City, Oklahoma (http://deadmalls.com/malls/heritage_park_mall.html)), and to be honest with all of the development south along I-40, and the demise of shopping venues along Reno (Wal-Mart, Target, etc), I don't see this coming back as a retail development. bombermwc 09-08-2009, 02:24 PM EV - I'm a he...not a her. And I've never seen that person in Sears. I always buy from one of two ladies in the appliances department. So whether he is ther or not means nothing to me. And I can say that I'm sure one person does NOT sustain a store. Corporations mine data and would see if that were true...close the store....and move him to another one. And the movie theater idea is a way to start spurring development. Of course it's empty now...a blind person could tell you that. The idea is to come up with something that could bring some life back. But thanks for your helpful comments on the matter. Your insight is so great....uh yeah. Much as your Wal-Mart views....and I know the other one is in MWC, my points were regarding the Del City store. The one on 23rd is a seperate devleopment that was in the works independantly for long before the other one. Now that we know it's got mold problems, that might be the best thing that we could have ever heard. Like kd said, at $17 sft, it's primed to be demoed....thank goodness. Once it's gone (and remember that doesn't mean that Dillard's or Sears will go because they are not owned by the mall....they are independant stores that are simply connected by a doorway), we stand a chance of something going back in. Or even an empty lot would be better than the half beat up crapfest that is the mall. woodyrr 09-12-2009, 07:39 PM I went to HPM today to get some more soap in a bottle, but Bath and Body Works is gone. Knowing that it was probably the last time that I would ever be in the mall, I walked the length of it. It's funny. I was around when it opened and spent many an evening there when it was standing room only. Somebody please turn out the lights and lock the doors. wayward1 09-12-2009, 10:20 PM to the guy who said wal mart on 23rd st is too spencer ish......it has a midwest city address...it is a midwest city wal mart.....if you would just drive morth on douglas you would see the spencer city line is halfway down the road north of wal mart....it was built there(and yes they wanted on 29th further east of target) to bring in the crowds from spencer,jones,choctaw,harrah, etc...alot of people travel 23rd on the way to work and home......i know an assistant manager of wal mart...and from what she heard was one reason they built the one in del city was the fact they had had nothing like wal mart or sears or target to bring in more money and they were whining about it.....thats just what i heard. |