My Highschool football and baseball coach (Al Miller) was a product of Capitol Hill, he went on to play a little pro ball in the St. Louis organization, he retired a few years ago from Carl Albert Highschool. Great coach, taught me as much about life as he did sports.

You know, we're never too old to pay a compliment to our old School teachers. My wife has taught for almost 40 years.....Me I'd already been put in jail if I had to put up with those kids. However, through the entire OKC public School System I learn to read, Write and do the math......My favorite was my Band Director...Mr. Don Todd.....

I think Grant played Jacksonville, Texas. The players ripped the sinks off
the walls in the bathroom etc... Shot themselves in the foot. they didn't
get to go again. When thinking about Highschool football... I remember the
fights at the round house at Capitol Hill. Most of them were quick but there
were plenty. Huh? red/Gen?

Jacksonville, TX! They would have been the Fighting Indians and the
venue was the Tomato Bowl. Did we win?

Those fights were guaranteed at any Generals/Redskins game. By the time
the police got there the fights would break up. You'd think they'd had a
clue by then.

At one game this joker threw a pop bottle cocktail at the church across the
street from the stadium. Methodist? It didn't burn long and we helped put it
out. I think it was just a pop bottle with gasoline.

Jacksonville, TX! They would have been the Fighting Indians and the
venue was the Tomato Bowl. Did we win?

Those fights were guaranteed at any Generals/Redskins game. By the time
the police got there the fights would break up. You'd think they'd had a
clue by then.

At one game this joker threw a pop bottle cocktail at the church across the
street from the stadium. Methodist? It didn't burn long and we helped put it
out. I think it was just a pop bottle with gasoline.
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way to go REDSKINS.......

I remember in the 50's and 60's (as in even now) there would be a fight break out simply because someone thought he/she were "tougher" than the little guy or girl and they wanted to show off and beat someone up. Bruises, Scratches and humility is what usually happened and it was usually a one on one, What happened? Now there has to be twenty to fight one and they have to have a gun or a knife ( that they don't really know how to use) and a great big stick.
Then they say "I'm going to kick you &%@. And the first thing they do is hit you in the nose. Do they not know where you &%@ is located?
Fights hurt and nothing comes out of it except torn clothing, humiliation on both sides...Because most generally the big guy beats up the little guy and everyone makes fun of him for whipping up on a little guy....None of it makes sense.........Oh well, COWGIRLS don't cry.

I remember in the 50's and 60's (as in even now) there would be a fight
break out simply because someone thought he/she were "tougher" than the
little guy or girl and they wanted to show off and beat someone up.
Bruises, Scratches and humility is what usually happened and it was usually
a one on one, What happened? Now there has to be twenty to fight one
and they have to have a gun or a knife ( that they don't really know how
to use) and a great big stick.

Then they say "I'm going to kick you &%@. And the first thing they do is
hit you in the nose. Do they not know where you &%@ is located?

Fights hurt and nothing comes out of it except torn clothing, humiliation on
both sides...Because most generally the big guy beats up the little guy and
everyone makes fun of him for whipping up on a little guy... None of it
makes sense... Oh well, COWGIRLS don't cry.

That is a sad editorial of today's young people.

I grew up in the OKC area as did my dad before me. I remember many of the places and people mentioned here. I actually worked at Molly Murphy's in 1986. I also remember Spring Lake Amusement Park and Frontier City. Other landmark resturaunts I remember: Casa Bonita, Cock of the Walk, Ann's Chicken Fry, Beverly's, and the Split T. My dad was a musician and my godfather owned The Greeks (the place to be in the 1970's). Later my dad owned Bit of Italy over on 29th and the Expressway (I think that was the location).

Anyone old enough to remember a place called the Dungeon on Classen? What about Neptune's Submarine Sandwiches and Sambo's?

Anyone old enough to remember a place called the Dungeon on Classen?
What about Neptune's Submarine Sandwiches and Sambo's?

The Dungeon, I believe was originally an Episcopal Church. After they
moved it became several bars. Beethoven's was one. I can't remember
them all. At one time they had some big rock band acts. Brownsville
Station was one.

I never cared for Neptune's.

Sambo's was a staple for late night coffee. I still have a wooden nickel for
a free cup of coffee. I got it in California in the 60's.

Does anybody remember Nick's Deli just north of 23rd on N. Western? They
had the best sandwiches, ever!

I grew up in the OKC area as did my dad before me. I remember many of the places and people mentioned here. I actually worked at Molly Murphy's in 1986. I also remember Spring Lake Amusement Park and Frontier City. Other landmark resturaunts I remember: Casa Bonita, Cock of the Walk, Ann's Chicken Fry, Beverly's, and the Split T. My dad was a musician and my godfather owned The Greeks (the place to be in the 1970's). Later my dad owned Bit of Italy over on 29th and the Expressway (I think that was the location).

Anyone old enough to remember a place called the Dungeon on Classen? What about Neptune's Submarine Sandwiches and Sambo's?

Your dad and your God-father were both terrific guys and I enjoyed their hospitality over many years. You told me about your dad in the PM but what happened to OKC's Jimmy the Greek?

Amstoker,
I tried to send you a private message but it didn't work. I'm a pro musician
who goes back a long way. I may have played with your dad, if he was a
jazzer.

Does Baird Jones or Wayne Nichols ring a bell? Larry Skinner? Norma Jean?
Benny Garcia (the world's greatest guitarist)?

Hey Prune, her dad is Eddie Peak. He certainly did some jazz and I'd bet 50 cents he at least knew Wayne Nichols even if he didn't play with him. I saw him on occasion backing up some of the lady jazz singers back in the '60s and early '70s. He was a terrific keyboardist and entertainer. But I would like to know if she knows what happened to Altice Moore, and if she knew Dean McDanials died a few years ago.

Hey Prune, her dad is Eddie Peak.

I first met Norma Jean at her restaurant in the basement of the Tiffany
apartments in the 70's. "Hoagies". A lot of musicians played there including
Barney Kessel. She was a good vocalist.

My brain doesn't grasp names very well. I may know those people you
mentioned but their names don't ring a bell.

Hey, Prune, those last 2 are guys that played in Eddie's band at The Greeks. I just remembered that I had seen Eddie playing with Preacher Smith, and I just KNOW you knew Preach. Since you knew Wayne, I'm wondering if you ever knew 2 jazz drummer friends of mine, Bud Moran and Bill English, as they both did stints with him. And, for that matter, Jazzbo Jansen?

Hey, Prune, those last 2 are guys that played in Eddie's band at The Greeks. I
just remembered that I had seen Eddie playing with Preacher Smith, and I
just KNOW you knew Preach. Since you knew Wayne, I'm wondering if you
ever knew 2 jazz drummer friends of mine, Bud Moran and Bill English, as they
both did stints with him. And, for that matter, Jazzbo Jansen?

I knew the Preacher. Played almost everything using the black keys.
Bud and Bill are familiar names. Someone was talking about Jazzbo
yesterday.

Where was he discussed, you mean here at OKCtalk or in "the real world?" Does anyone know where he is now or did they say? Last I knew he was backing Jerry Fisher in The Fantastics. Either he disappeared or I did. lol

Any of you guys remember "The Third Avenue Blues Band"? Think they were formerly "The Jades". That was a smokin band. Harold Jones, Harlin Rogers (hamond B-3), Hadley Hawkinsmith, Billy Maxwell plus a couple of horn players. Hadley has been with Neil Diamond for years, I think Jones died a couple of years ago and not sure about the rest. Jones was the main singer but Rogers had some pretty good pipes also. Ive still got and LP album they made. Too bad electronic keyboards put alot of good horn players out of work.

You betcha. Another great group, indeed. As with all the others, I first met them coz I was selling them their stage duds. Neil somethingornuther was one of the horns but I can't think of the other one.

Where was he discussed...

Somebody mentioned Jazzbo at a gig. Either yesterday afternoon or that
night. It was in passing so I didn't think much of it.

Any of you guys remember "The Third Avenue Blues Band"? Think they were
formerly "The Jades". That was a smokin band. Harold Jones, Harlin Rogers
(hamond B-3), Hadley Hawkinsmith, Billy Maxwell plus a couple of horn
players.

Harold is still alive and well! His band, BLT, was at Maker's last night. Harold
and I go back a ways as does Earl Day & Scotty Scott.

I met Earl Day in about '78 while he was playing at Mahogany West and he was having a hell of a time keeping Billy Paul perpendicular. Is Trey Burton still in BLT. Wife and I still go see Barbara and Charles at least once a year, but we haven't seen Trey since he quit playing with his folks as a teenager but I know he was in BLT at it's inception but I was not aware that Harold was in it, too. Oh, and I just remember that it was Neil Bloomfield that played horns for Third Avenue...... or at least I THINK that was it. I SURE used to get out more than I do now. Just too oooooold.

Seems like the other horn player for 3rd Avenue was Bob Beasley, just a guess. I think some of these guys played later with Maiya at the old Sports Page club. During the 70's I started following Tim Ballard and the 50' hose. Ballard was a very good David Clayton Thomas want-to-be. I still miss all the good horn players.

I was kinda thinking the same thing about going to Maya. Harold Jones did, but other than he and Speedy, I'm really having trouble remembering the others' names. The lead singer was a really personal guy and it's freaking me out that I can't remember at LEAST his name. What was funny was that Harold did the vocals on Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain. Tim used to perform some with Jerry Fisher, the REAL David Clayton Thomas wannabe, hee hee. This is gettin' fun.

I was kinda thinking the same thing about going to Maya. Harold Jones did, but other than he and Speedy, I'm really having trouble remembering the others' names. The lead singer was a really personal guy and it's freaking me out that I can't remember at LEAST his name. What was funny was that Harold did the vocals on Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain. Tim used to perform some with Jerry Fisher, the REAL David Clayton Thomas wannabe, hee hee. This is gettin' fun.

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Fisher is in Colorado now...After Katrina took out "The Dock on the Bay" in bay Saint Louis in Miss. he said he was going North and getting skis out telling the south good-bye.....There was nothing left of his club down there when I was there.

I met Earl Day in about '78 while he was playing at Mahogany West and he
was having a hell of a time keeping Billy Paul perpendicular. Is Trey Burton
still in BLT. Wife and I still go see Barbara and Charles at least once a year,
but we haven't seen Trey since he quit playing with his folks as a teenager
but I know he was in BLT at it's inception but I was not aware that Harold
was in it, too. Oh, and I just remember that it was Neil Bloomfield that
played horns for Third Avenue...or at least I THINK that was it. I SURE used
to get out more than I do now. Just too oooooold.

Billy Paul was a mess. Was Earl on B3? He's playing some solo gigs around
town. I think the Clarion on Lincoln is one.

Harold is playing drums and singing. Has been since the early 80's. I haven't
seen Trey for a long time. Played with Charles at Glen Walker's funeral 4
years ago.

I'll talk to Harold the next time I see him and get the scoop on where
everyone in the 3rd Ave is.

Last night I saw Larry Berglan (bass player) with the Juveniles. He looks
like he survived the 60's.

A couple of others from Maya I remember was Wes Holland and Cheryl Bonner. I think Wes may have died in a car accident and not sure what happened to Cheryl.
Here's a little video of Fisher at his finest hour.

YouTube - Blood Sweat & Tears - So long dixie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo6wMXH35f8)

Yeah, Wes was who I was beating my brains out to remember. Thank you.

WOW Wonderful video of Fish, Woooo!!!!!

WOW Wonderful video of Fish, Woooo!

And it was mixed good, too. Hard to believe it was from '74.

And it was mixed good, too. Hard to believe it was from '74.
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I remember Fisher with his Boogie....How about it USG60?????

Hey, I had a boogie, too. A couple of times when we were still in school, Fish would call me and we would load some instruments in my car and go around to the pawn shops downtown until he got an offer to satisfy him. I'll bet we looked pathetic, big ol grizzly Jerry and me at 5'5" and 105 lbs, looking about 13 yrs old. BUT we had boogies. And we will need to explain to the younger ones here that a boogie was a haircut.....flat on top and combed back on the sides. TOOO COOOL.

Hey, I had a boogie, too...

... And we will need to explain to the younger ones here that a boogie was
a haircut... flat on top and combed back on the sides. TOOO COOOL.

Wow! You guys are REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY old.

:LolLolLol

I couldn't stand any type of hair cut for any reason. I still part my hair
down the middle in rebellious protest.

Now I'm so ugly that Prunette cuts my hair with PRUNing shears so I look
respectable...



to somebody...



I'm not sure who... but that's what she says.

Wow! You guys are REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY old.

:LolLolLol

I couldn't stand any type of hair cut for any reason. I still part my hair
down the middle in rebellious protest.

Now I'm so ugly that Prunette cuts my hair with PRUNing shears so I look
respectable...



to somebody...



I'm not sure who... but that's what she says.
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the last time I saw you she had cut it a little too thin on the top. Has it straightened out since then?

...
the last time I saw you she had cut it a little too thin on the top. Has it
straightened out since then?

No. My part is as wide as ever.

USG60, here is a video you might enjoy. Hadley, Harlan and Billy, About half of the 3rd Ave Band are in this. Has some nice comments posted, some mention the ole OKC days.

YouTube - Koinonia "Cuando" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtiIij5IGng)

That is really cool. I am very perplexed now. I can't figure out how I wasn't aware of this assemblage of musicians. Never heard the name. When did they exist? It must have been after I "got out of the loop." Anyway, thanks a lot for sharing.

That is really cool. I am very perplexed now. I can't figure out how I wasn't aware of this assemblage of musicians. Never heard the name. When did they exist? It must have been after I "got out of the loop." Anyway, thanks a lot for sharing.

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Hey '60, one of your buddies from the class of '60 US GRANT. Is trying to find out about this week's meeting......Check it out...by the way, I've known The Village Idiot ALL my life and he is coming up with things I never knew he knew....He is full of surprises and memories. He also still has ALL of his toys from his childhood days......even a certain Black Saddle......Check out your friend so he doesn't miss...

USG60, here is a video you might enjoy. Hadley, Harlan and Billy, About half
of the 3rd Ave Band are in this. Has some nice comments posted, some
mention the ole OKC days.

YouTube - Koinonia "Cuando" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtiIij5IGng)

That's Abraham Laboriel on bass. It's a Christian band.

While I was watching that, Prune, I was reminded of a Christian group from here in the late 60s-early 70s, but I cannot think of their name. I'm quite sure the front man's name was Ric Gordon. Somehow they reminded me of Maya. Does that ring a bell with you? .........or anybody.

While I was watching that, Prune, I was reminded of a Christian group from
here in the late 60s-early 70s, but I cannot think of their name. I'm quite sure
the front man's name was Ric Gordon. Somehow they reminded me of Maya.
Does that ring a bell with you? or anybody.

No, it doesn't.

Hey Pruner, do you remember Mike Clifton?...He lived on the corner of 59th st. right by the Shopping Center....Also, how about Sally Watson....Whew...she should have lived over by you.....then Pam Stevens....She was the pretty Blonde girl that was always at the Country club alon with Vickie Siekel.....Vickie lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico and the last picture I saw she still looks good....

Hey Pruner, do you remember Mike Clifton? He lived on the corner of 59th st.
right by the Shopping Center... Also, how about Sally Watson... Whew... she
should have lived over by you... then Pam Stevens... She was the pretty
Blonde girl that was always at the Country club along with Vickie Siekel...
Vickie lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico and the last picture I saw she still looks
good...

Gosh, those names sound familiar but unless I see a face there's no way of
knowing. That corner would have been S. Drexel & 59th.

Vickie Siekel? or Segal? Segal, for some reason, sounds more familiar.

When did they graduate?

Tim Ballard was like an uncle to me. He was my dad, Eddie Peak's best friend. I grew up at the Greeks (my godfather ran it) and my step-mom worked at the Sports Page.

Gosh, those names sound familiar but unless I see a face there's no way of
knowing. That corner would have been S. Drexel & 59th.

Vickie Siekel? or Segal? Segal, for some reason, sounds more familiar.

When did they graduate?
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you would remember Vickie Siekel....right boys??????

Looking back over the fun years of my life, if I had to pick one of the old clubs to get back to and visit one more time, it would be The Greeks with Eddie at the keyboards.

Yes Gen64, we ALL remember Vicki AND Pam. I can't tell you what us older guys said as that crop of fresh blood arrived at the hallowed halls of USG, or someone would wash my mouth out with soap.

To revisit an old club? I would have to go with Sinbads or the Scorpio! Not really, Maybe the Bandido Club, basement of the Plaza-Courts building or the Blue Onion in Norman. Lot's of good times and good music.
Wonder what ever happened to Joe Settlemyer, Julian Akins, and Danny Chestnut?

Didn't Kay Denton own the Blue Onion? What happened to him? I was wondering about Joe just recently. Hadn't wondered about Danny in ages, but now I am.

Also had a lot of good times at the Horse Shoe when Jim Edgar and the Roadrunners was there. And speaking of them, what happened to Farland Stanley, and Jim, for that matter? For the life of me I can't remember the other names, but I do remember the faces.

Talking about Jim Edger, made me think of Wes Reynolds. He played a short time with him. Had an interesting career.

Wes Reynolds' Biography (http://www.wesreynolds.net/index_files/Page313.htm)

One day in the 8th grade I heard several people mentioning the name Elvis. I never caught the context, just the name. I had never heard the name in my life and assumed it was some new good looking chick that had just enrolled, or something. After school I walked home with Wes Reynolds, and on the way he asked if I saw Elvis last night on TV. I said No, who the heck is it? So he proceeded to tell me about it, playing air guitar and gyratting his butt. I was in disbelief. When we got to his house, he whipped out his guitar and gave me a sample.

I noticed in that bio that it doesn't even mention that he went to Grant and I would have sworn he went there through at least the 10 grade. I was going to check the old annuals but I can't seem to find them at the moment. Drat!

Wonder what ever happened to Joe Settlemyer, Julian Akins, and Danny
Chestnut?

I gigged with Joe 2 weeks ago. He's still a fine musician. Julian died quite a
while back. Maybe 20 years. I don't remember Danny Chestnut.

I gigged with Joe 2 weeks ago. He's still a fine musician. Julian died quite a
while back. Maybe 20 years. I don't remember Danny Chestnut.
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Chesnut's dad was a Church of Christ Preacher and didn't appreciate all the piano lessons Danny had to end up going Rock 'n Roll. Danny worked for TG&Y at 74th and Penn for a long time. He was in charge of the West end of the store and the Camera department when Paul Epperson went to work for TG&Y.....You know him as Epperson Photo on N.May.....Danny just disappeared I don't know where he went or what. However, he did have a younger brother...maybe someone will read this and let us know.....

Chesnut's dad was a Church of Christ Preacher and didn't appreciate all the
piano lessons Danny had to end up going Rock 'n Roll.

I'm thinking of Danny Chesnut as a pianist. It's foggy.

What's buggin' me is that I just KNOW I knew Danny as a member of at least 2 different bands and yet I can't nail him in any of them with my weak ol' brain.

Just found this. Talk about some memories!
YouTube - KTVY 30 Year Anniversary Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6taIQ-6GYSE&NR=1)

...and 3D Danny...
YouTube - WKY-TV 3D Danny episode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YdxWJKOCHI&feature=related)

I used "to go" with one of 3D's daughters, 3D was quite a character.

I used "to go" with one of 3D's daughters, 3D was quite a character.

STOP!

Hold it right there mister. When you say 3D, to whom are you referring?

STOP!

Hold it right there mister. When you say 3D, to whom are you referring?

Danny Williams -Why?

Danny Williams -Why?

I thought you were referring to 3D Athletics. Danny Williams was one
weird dude.

I thought you were referring to 3D Athletics. Danny Williams was one
weird dude.

Yeah..nothing to do with 3D Athletics.

I thought you were referring to 3D Athletics. Danny Williams was one
weird dude.

He was different, but also a very nice man. He hasn't led an easy life.

Remember how out of control he would get when he hosted Live Wrestling on Saturday nights? He would go insane yelling and screaming. Those were the days.