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johnnyboyokc 11-03-2006, 03:53 AM if you look at the original map of the canal it would of went straight down the parking lot south of zios....however brewer proposed (i know his buildings were on this street) to make it on california...at the time know one would of believed that anyone like sonic would of built on that property (THAT IS WHY HE THOUGHT PEOPLE WOULD BE MORE APT TO DEVELOP WITH the BUILDINGs ALREADY THERE) this whole thing was a risk and it worked with the help of maps and norick....dont you all agree....and spurred other districts like western....and there will be more to come... i would say its not about money its a passion however look at youtube and myspace...it starts out as fun and ends up profitable......who cares its free enterprise (but youtube sold for way too much ha ha)
Does anyone know what the status of this project is?
This project, along with the canal corner project would be a huge boon to Bricktown proper (Upper Bricktown?).
Any news?
metro 03-13-2007, 10:41 AM I think its time for Steve L. to do an update on all the "proposed" projects that haven't yet come to fruition.
okclee 06-22-2007, 11:30 AM Canal side renovation plan includes parking, restaurant, office
By Steve Lackmeyer
The Oklahoman
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Two Oklahoma City oilmen are proposing a multimillion-dollar renovation of properties along the Bricktown Canal that would include construction of a two-story parking garage, fountains and addition of offices and housing.
John Shelton and Charles Harding’s project, at 2 E California and 12 E California, was applauded Wednesday by the Bricktown Urban Design Committee. But the committee withheld approval, saying it will need more information and detailed drawings.
“Our development will depend on the approval of the design committee and the city,” Harding said. “We don’t want to go to the expense of doing all this and then finding out it won’t work.”
Harding’s proposal calls for renovation of the second floor and addition of a roof-top terrace at 12 E California. The building’s first floor, overlooking the canal, is home to Zio’s Italian Restaurant and the Laughing Fish gift shop. The four-story building at 2 E California (including a canal level basement) has been boarded up for at least the past decade, but is best known for the water tower on the roof.
Balconies would be added to both buildings. Designs also call for new windows to be added to the west facade of 2 E California, and an expansion of the patio facing the canal. Harding also wants the city to consider adding a fountain in the reflecting pool of the canal west of 2 E California.
Harding said the purchase from owner Jim Brewer also includes air rights over the surface parking lot south of Zio’s. Brewer would retain control of the surface lot, and Harding is proposing a two- to four-story parking garage over the lot that would be connected to the buildings by a skywalk.
Harding said the second floor of the buildings will be converted into offices, and the third floor of 2 E California will be remodeled into housing.
The investment will exceed $10 million, Harding said.
“We will need some cooperation from the city on this,” he said. “This is an underdeveloped area of Bricktown, and we will need to work with the city to make it work.”
Brewer said he recently bought a parking lot east of Zio’s in a separate transaction from Chris Johnson with intention of developing the property into a hotel. Similar development was envisioned by Johnson, but Brewer said the deal wasn’t doable because he couldn’t find a way to provide parking.
Brewer said his deal with Harding and Shelton includes operating the garage, so that ample parking will be available for both nearby restaurants and a future canal side hotel.
Bricktown Association director Frank Sims applauded Harding and Shelton’s plans, adding the property at 2 E California is an eyesore for visitors enjoying boat rides on the canal.
“We’ve been hoping for this kind of development for many years,” Sims said. “It’s long overdue.
“It’s an embarrassment to have buildings along the canal boarded up with broken glass just sitting there. We don’t want to have prime canal frontage being ignored or underutilized. With all the new development along the south half of the canal, we need to see further renovations in the core.”
What is the latest with this project?? Is it still alive??
johnnyboyokc 07-13-2007, 12:56 AM that is a great deal and partnership......sims should have nothing to say about it.........it is a great beneficiary to btown.....
okclee 07-13-2007, 04:00 PM When will we see some progress on this project??
Popsy 07-14-2007, 06:38 PM Hey Midtowner. Re your request on 10/29/06 that you be allowed to respond later when I asked you to bring some credibility to your statements about Moshe Tal. Perhaps you need another ten months to prepare your response. That's OK, as I will continue to wait.
Midtowner 07-14-2007, 07:02 PM I've had a chance to go over a lot of Tal's lawsuits and how he sued basically anyone who came in contact with him including the law firm which represented him. Whether or not something happened here which was underhanded, I think the city is better off without a man like Moshe Tal having anything to do with Oklahoma City's renaissance. Sometimes, even when you're right, you just need to know when to pack up your toys and go home.
As much as Tal has paid in attorneys fees, I can't possibly imagine his suit was in complete bad faith. His lawyers (a very well-respected firm) took the case. If the case truly was a non-starter, I don't think they would have signed on.
At any rate, I'm relatively happy with the way things turned out. Since there's nothing particularly special about any of the Hogan buildings, I have no doubt they'll be replaced with some more formidable structures within the next 20 years or so.
metro 10-30-2007, 08:49 AM Steve, any updates?
Steve 10-30-2007, 10:56 AM Not yet. But the last I heard, this project involved tax credits, and that can cause some delays depending on the complexity of the renovation and financing.
Not yet. But the last I heard, this project involved tax credits, and that can cause some delays depending on the complexity of the renovation and financing.
When the government gets involved, things get much more complicated.
Ron Paul 2008.
metro 11-08-2007, 08:53 AM So is Ron Paul endorsing this slow Bricktown project Luke?
Turanacus 11-08-2007, 09:28 AM Whoever keeps saying that parking in Bricktown needs to be free really needs to get outside of Mustang and observe what other cities are doing. I can't find free parking in Kansas City for crying out loud. Get wit it dogg. Brewer just makin some flow.
warreng88 04-11-2008, 09:28 AM Sorry to bring up an old thread, but does anyone know the latest on this one?
maestro 04-11-2008, 09:40 AM It's pretty obvious the new owners, like the previous owner, doesn't care to maintain their investment nor care what their properties look like. And further, don't care how that apathetic attitude reduces the attraction and the image of the area.
It's a shame that we have a building looking this bad at the "headwaters" of the canal and neither the owners or the City can manage to make anything happen to at least make it look decent.
Architect2010 04-11-2008, 03:14 PM So I take that as this isn't happening?
Midtowner 04-11-2008, 03:28 PM It's pretty obvious the new owners, like the previous owner, doesn't care to maintain their investment nor care what their properties look like. And further, don't care how that apathetic attitude reduces the attraction and the image of the area.
It's a shame that we have a building looking this bad at the "headwaters" of the canal and neither the owners or the City can manage to make anything happen to at least make it look decent.
Eminent Domain.
The property is blighted. Take it and sell it to someone who will develop it.
mecarr 04-11-2008, 03:34 PM there should be a "bricktown volunteer" group that would consist of people like us who just want to see simple things happen that would make bricktown look better & cleaner.
mmonroe 04-11-2008, 07:17 PM I concur and will sign up.
dismayed 04-11-2008, 08:57 PM Actually that is a great idea mecarr.
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