Couldn't wait a few more years to make some money...what a dumba**

Just when everything was getting back on track!!! I guess my season tickets aren't gonna be worth as much now :( .

one of two people we couldn't afford to lose this year...definitely going to be 8 guys in the box to stuff Peterson now...guess 19 and 20 yr olds aren't the brightest even when they know people are watching them like a hawk...do you know what the business was he worked for??

one of two people we couldn't afford to lose this year...definitely going to be 8 guys in the box to stuff Peterson now...guess 19 and 20 yr olds aren't the brightest even when they know people are watching them like a hawk...do you know what the business was he worked for??

Rumors are it was Big Red Sports/Imports. From ESPN.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2537332):

Oklahoma starting quarterback Rhett Bomar will not play for the Sooners this season following an investigation by the team, ESPN's Doug Gottlieb and Joe Schad reported Wednesday.

Sophomore J.D. Quinn, who was expected to start at guard, was also dismissed.

Oklahoma said that two players had been dismissed by the team but did not identify them. The school said in a statement that the players violated NCAA rules by working at a private business and taking "payment over an extended period of time in excess of time actually worked."

Bomar had a job at a Norman, Okla., car dealer at which he'd work about five hours a week, but claimed, for tax purposes, that he earned $18,000 a year, Schad reported.

What an idiot. I think Big Red Sports/Imports should bear just as much blame though. Thank you for screwing over the team you morons!

Good job, Stoops for taking care of this problem now before it gets any worse.

And our minds with their stupid commercials. The owner with a mullet needs to be on What Not To Wear for a makeover.

Easy180, when starting a new thread, please explain what it is you're talking about so all can understand. I had not yet heard of this.

Before you start roasting Big Red Sports and Imports, please remember that this happened with the previous ownership, not the current owners the Hudiburgs.

Kim

Let's just hope this truly was a university-led investigation, and not a university-led reaction to an upcoming NCAA investigation.

There is still the possibility of a phone call (tip) to the NCAA, an NCAA phone call to OU, an OU reaction (today's action), but still an NCAA suspicion that the program was complicit.

These things are rarely as cut and dried as this looks.

Eliminating this silly "student athlete" charade in basketball and football should be a priority for the NCAA. Just let the college programs serve as farm clubs for the pros - and stop the silliness that all these players would be in college anyway ("just students participating in athletics while in school"). We all know the facts for the vast majority of players (athletes, who aren't college material, getting all kinds of academic breaks in order to continue to play football or basketball). It's a charade, most know it's a charade and maybe one day we'll quit pretending that it's something other than it is.

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Rumors are it was Big Red Sports/Imports. From ESPN.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2537332):
Oklahoma starting quarterback Rhett Bomar will not play for the Sooners this season following an investigation by the team, ESPN's Doug Gottlieb and Joe Schad reported Wednesday.

Sophomore J.D. Quinn, who was expected to start at guard, was also dismissed.

Oklahoma said that two players had been dismissed by the team but did not identify them. The school said in a statement that the players violated NCAA rules by working at a private business and taking "payment over an extended period of time in excess of time actually worked."

Bomar had a job at a Norman, Okla., car dealer at which he'd work about five hours a week, but claimed, for tax purposes, that he earned $18,000 a year, Schad reported.





Here is the story from the Oklahoman: Both players and BIg Red Sports are to blame for this. They all knew what they were doing was wrong.

Bomar off OU football team


By John Helsley and Justin Harper
NORMAN --- Quarterback Rhett Bomar is one of two players who have been dismissed from the Oklahoma football team, according to several sources.

Oklahoma released a statement confirming that two players had been dismissed by the team, but did not identify them. The school said the players violated NCAA rules by working at a private business and taking "payment over an extended period of time in excess of time actually worked."

Bomar, who set an Oklahoma freshman record with 2,018 passing yards after taking over as the Sooners' starter in the second game last season, was one of the two players who had been permanently dismissed.

"We spend a considerable amount of time addressing our players regarding their personal conduct and the NCAA rules," head coach Bob Stoops said. "They know exactly what we expect from them. Ultimately, they have to make right decisions. The same holds true for our boosters. When they do not, the consequences are serious, and we will not tolerate this behavior.

"Our team and university actions are necessary because of the intentional participation and knowledge of the student athletes in these violations," Stoops said.

A top-rated recruit out of high school, Bomar redshirted his first season while 2004 Heisman Trophy winner Jason White completed his career. Bomar lost a quarterback competition to Paul Thompson last fall, but was named the starter after the Sooners lost to TCU in the first week.

He started Oklahoma's final 11 games and completed 54 percent of his passes, while throwing 10 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. Oklahoma finished 2005 by winning six of its final seven games, including a victory against Oregon in the Holiday Bowl.
"I firmly believe that our program is stronger than any individual player and that a championship program cannot compromise its values," Stoops said in the statement.

Before you start roasting Big Red Sports and Imports, please remember that this happened with the previous ownership, not the current owners the Hudiburgs.

Kim
Is that why the goofy guy with the mullet is no longer doing their commercials?

metro..sorry I didnt post the article...I was on the run...so a two bit dealership puts the hurt on OU's chances this year...Holiday Bowl here we come!!

Frankly, I'm glad he's gone. I never saw him as the same type of person Jason White or Josh Heupel was. We'll build back up.

BTW, I want to point out that the current owners of Big Red Sports and Imports (Hudiburg) aren't resonsible for this. This happened under the previous owners.

Is that why the goofy guy with the mullet is no longer doing their commercials?

Yup, they dumped the mullet guy.

Nope. Kim, I say punish Big Red. I don't care if the old owners sold out. The new owners had to have known this was coming. To let a sale transaction like that let the grown ups off the hook won't fly with me. Boycott Big Red, and if the Hudibergs were really blind on this, let them sue the sellers. There's got to be a consequence. Otherwise, we'll have other dealers doing misdeeds, and when they know the hammer is going to hit, they simply sell as well and the new owners can also say "hey, it wasn't us."
If you buy a sleasy operation, be prepared to suffer when the truth catches up.
Oh, and Fowler Dodge might want to reconsider some of their recent hires

just trying to remember back when I was his age and if I was that stupid...guess so...but I also didn't have several million staring at me in 3 more years either

bet he and JD thought it was hilarious they were getting away w/ not working and getting paid...maybe he will find it funny trying to make it to the NFL from UCO : )

sucks for him much more than it does for just us fans...the man traded $18,000 for several million possibly...sure mama and daddy are real proud and disappointed their dream house just shrunk down by 5 bedrooms!!

I have a feeling UCO might not take him.

And besides, Easy, I'm pretty sure some UCO football players have made it to the NFL, don't be so quick to dismiss a smaller school.

This would be a good time for OU to take a close look at all of the "good 'ol boy" Sooner fans that are working illegal backroom deals with the team and clean house. So what if the coaches don't get fee cars, they make enough money to buy and drive their own vehicles.
Kick the "good "ol boys" out of the stadium and void their season tickets. Coach Stoops and company have put together to good of a program to let it go to crap because of a few jacka$$'s. Remember what happened to SMU in the 1980's down in Texas?

bandnerd...graduated from UCO, but its apparent it's much more difficult to get to the pros from that type of school..he may still make it, but I doubt he will get anywhere near the money now

I doubt anyone will want to touch him, let alone let him play football. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be able to trust him.

I have a feeling UCO might not take him.

And besides, Easy, I'm pretty sure some UCO football players have made it to the NFL, don't be so quick to dismiss a smaller school.

Keith Traylor is the only one currently playing.

But Keith Traylor is good! He's played for a dozen teams. I think he's with the Pats right now.

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NORMAN, Okla. -- The news came as a shock to the Sooner nation. Star quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn were kicked off the team Wednesday. The school says the two players broke NCAA rules by working at a Norman car dealership and being paid too much money for the actual time they put in.

Rhett Bomar and J.D. Quinn were working at the Norman car dealership, Big Red Sports and Imports, and accepted payment for work they did not do. The two players received what is deemed extra compensation, which is a violation of NCAA rules.

Bomar and Quinn were working there along with several other Sooner players last year, and OU felt something appeared to be suspicious about the whole arrangement. The school launched an internal investigation, which revealed both Bomar and Quinn, and only those two, had violated NCAA rules.

The school actually requested an Internal Revenue Service statement from Bomar in which he reported his earnings to be $18,000, far above what he should have received for his work at the dealership. Once the school determined infractions were committed, both players were permanently dismissed from the team.

Bomar and Quinn are "red shirt" sophomores and both were expected to start this season. OU players reported to campus Wednesday and the players and other school officials met for over two hours.

NewsChannel 4 caught up with the players as they walked out of that meeting. No player or coach had any comment, but head coach Bob Stoops will hold a news conference Thursday to discuss the situation further.
In a statement released earlier, Stoops said the school's actions are necessary because of the intentional participation and knowledge of the violations by the players.

News traveled fast on the OU campus of the players' dismissal. NewsChannel 4 heard from the girlfriend of one of the Sooner's and the car dealership in the middle of the fiasco defends its business. The owner of Big Red Sports isn't taking the blame.

The number "seven" is unlucky for some Oklahoma retailers. Anticipating a banner season, many stores ordered dozens of Bomar jerseys.

What will they do with all those suddenly unpopular shirts now?
That is the retail dilemma created by the dismissal. Every season, there is an "it" item for football fans. This year it was Rhett Bomar's jersey that was the must have.

With the news of the dismissal, fans and retailers are abandoning number seven. Sooner fans have been anxiously awaiting the 2006 football season and stocking up on OU merchandise. Suddenly, the rack of Bomar's jerseys was not as popular as they once were.

"I don't think they'll be real popular this year. I'm sure everybody is upset with Rhett Bomar right now," David Smith, of the Big Red Shop says.

That's unfortunate for the Big Red Shop. Following Rhett Bomar's MVP performance at the Holiday Bowl, David Smith placed orders for this season and he loaded up on Number 7 football jerseys.

Following the surprise dismissal of the star OU quarterback, Smith called his distributor to cancel the order.

"I told them I didn't want them, but I'm still waiting to hear if they'll make me take them or not," Smith says.

It was five large shipments that were expected to arrive beginning this Friday. David Smith jokes that he may be forced to put them in storage until the next "stand out" #7 arrives to the Sooner nation.

"They'll always have a #7 and I'm sure whoever wears it will be a good athlete. Hopefully the next All-American at OU," Smith says.

The Big Red Shop plans to stock up on other popular jerseys this season, including Number 28 and 42; Adrian Peterson and Rufus Alexander.

I think Joe Aska RB made it a few years back from UCO...I remember him playing for the Raiders and had one decent year...not too sure of anyone else

Here is the story from the Oklahoman: Both players and BIg Red Sports are to blame for this. They all knew what they were doing was wrong.

Bomar off OU football team


By John Helsley and Justin Harper
NORMAN --- Quarterback Rhett Bomar is one of two players who have been dismissed from the Oklahoma football team, according to several sources.

Oklahoma released a statement confirming that two players had been dismissed by the team, but did not identify them. The school said the players violated NCAA rules by working at a private business and taking "payment over an extended period of time in excess of time actually worked."

Bomar, who set an Oklahoma freshman record with 2,018 passing yards after taking over as the Sooners' starter in the second game last season, was one of the two players who had been permanently dismissed.

"We spend a considerable amount of time addressing our players regarding their personal conduct and the NCAA rules," head coach Bob Stoops said. "They know exactly what we expect from them. Ultimately, they have to make right decisions. The same holds true for our boosters. When they do not, the consequences are serious, and we will not tolerate this behavior.

"Our team and university actions are necessary because of the intentional participation and knowledge of the student athletes in these violations," Stoops said.

A top-rated recruit out of high school, Bomar redshirted his first season while 2004 Heisman Trophy winner Jason White completed his career. Bomar lost a quarterback competition to Paul Thompson last fall, but was named the starter after the Sooners lost to TCU in the first week.

He started Oklahoma's final 11 games and completed 54 percent of his passes, while throwing 10 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. Oklahoma finished 2005 by winning six of its final seven games, including a victory against Oregon in the Holiday Bowl.
"I firmly believe that our program is stronger than any individual player and that a championship program cannot compromise its values," Stoops said in the statement.

yeah, way to go dumb-a**. Moron! :congrats:

Maybe they were salesmen and got a nice sales commission? At least that's how they should have spun it... what a drag..

I'll never understand how someone who has been given so much can throw it away ( Anderson - Birdman comes to mind ) .. how many people would die for this chance?

Maybe they were salesmen and got a nice sales commission? At least that's how they should have spun it... what a drag..

Blatantly break the rules and then create a lie to cover themselves? Uhhh...no.

I meant and should have said, 'how they should have done it ' from the beginning when they were hired - it wouldn't matter how many hours worked if they sold for commission.. .. legitimately - a commission for selling regardless of the hours worked ..

Sorry, reading it back, it came out wrong.

Hudiburg had stated I believe when he first bought the dealership that he would keep the Big Red Sports name...

Do you still think he will keep the name??

I bet they do...the dealership in question will likely be an afterthought to most after just a few more months...especially if Paul Thompson does any good this year

http://www.channeloklahoma.com/sports/9748778/detail.html

Drumroll please.....................................

The NCAA's Committee on Infractions will release its findings – and any further penalties – from an investigation into the Oklahoma football program this afternoon.

The announcement will bring to a close a process that began more than a year ago, when an anonymous e-mail tip led OU and the NCAA to begin investigating the employment of football players at Big Red Sports and Imports.

OU must forfeit wins from '05

Football program penalized by NCAA in pay-for-work-not-performed scheme

02:03 PM CDT on Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Associated Press

The University of Oklahoma must vacate its football victories during the 2005 season, including a bowl game, as part of the penalties imposed by the NCAA in a pay-for-work-not-performed scheme involving a Norman auto dealership, Big Red Sports/Imports.

OU finished 8-4 in 2005 and beat Oregon, 17-14, in the Pacific Life Holiday Bowl.

The major violations, called "significant and serious" by the NCAA, involved three players – including quarterback Rhett Bomar of Grand Prairie and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn of Garland -- who received about $17,000 in unearned wages, the NCAA said Wednesday.

Other penalties include:

• Two additional years of probation, extending to May 2010. The school already was on probation for basketball violations.

• The loss of two football scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 seasons.

• The banishment of former Big Red manager Brad McRae from association with the University until at least August 2011.

• A reduction in the number of football coaches who can recruit off campus this fall by one.

This is Oklahoma's sixth major NCAA infractions case involving football and seventh overall. Only Arizona State and SMU, each with eight, have more overall major cases.

OU officials appeared before the NCAA infractions committee on April 14 in Indianapolis. It was the school's second appearance in less than a year. In May 2006, the NCAA sanctioned OU for major violations in its men's basketball program, involving hundreds of improper telephone calls by coaches to recruits.

The basketball decision came five weeks after the infractions hearing. The football decision came more than 12 weeks after the Indianapolis hearing. It's rare for a major college athletic program to face such official scrutiny of its top two revenue sports in such a short span.

Coach Bob Stoops dismissed Bomar and Quinn in early August last year, just before fall practice began. Both players competed during 2005 while they took money that they didn't earn from Big Red, which is why OU must forfeit those victories, the NCAA said.

"Any public reference to these vacated contests, including the bowl game, won during this time shall be removed from athletics department stationary, banners displayed in public areas and any other forum," the NCAA said.

That seems a little harsh considering Stoops already handled the problem pretty decisively. There aren't a lot of coaches who would've kicked off the star QB and others from the team. Are we ever going to hear of USC forfeiting their 2003, 2004 and 2005 games?

Well the ruling is crap, but could have been a whole lot worse I guess

Fine w/ forfeiture of the '05 wins...Season sucked anyway

Pretty harsh, despite me being biased for being a Sooner fan. As AFCM said, why didn't they penalize USC for Reggie Bush. If they can take back our win's, why can't they take back the obviously incorrect Oregon "win" from last year. The NCAA is a crock.


OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - The Oklahoma football program must vacate its wins from the 2005 season and will lose two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years.

The penalties, announced Wednesday by the NCAA, stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership.
The Sooners went 8-4 and beat Oregon in the Holiday Bowl to end the 2005 season. Records from that season involving quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn must be vacated, the NCAA said, and coach Bob Stoops' career record will be amended to reflect the vacated wins, dropping it from 86-19 in eight seasons to 78-19.

Oklahoma also will have two years of probation added to an earlier penalty, extending the Sooners' probation to May 23, 2010.

Those sanctions are in addition to those already self-imposed by Oklahoma, which has banned athletes from working at the car dealership until at least the 2008-09 academic year and has moved to prevent the athletes' supervisor at the dealership, Brad McRae, from being involved with the university's athletics program until at least August 2011.

Oklahoma also will reduce the number of football coaches who are allowed to recruit off campus this fall. The Sooners also dismissed Bomar, Quinn and walk-on Jermaine Hardison from the team.

"Although this case centered on a few violations involving three student-athletes, the committee finds this case to be significant and serious for several reasons," the NCAA report said, noting the length of time of the violations and the fact that Oklahoma had appeared before the committee in April 2006 regarding violations in its men's basketball program.

On Aug. 3 — the day before the Sooners began preseason practice — Stoops dismissed Bomar and Quinn from the team after the university determined they had been paid for work not performed at Big Red Sports and Imports. That led to a subsequent NCAA investigation.

The committee found that Oklahoma "demonstrated a failure to monitor" the employment of several athletes, including some football players who worked during the academic year. The NCAA said that failure led to the university not detecting NCAA rules violations.

During the investigation, the university disputed that allegation, arguing that the NCAA should applaud, not penalize, its efforts to root out violations and noted that NCAA president Myles Brand told one news outlet that the university "acted with integrity in taking swift and decisive action" in the case.

Both Bomar and Quinn lost a season of eligibility. Bomar has been ordered by the NCAA to pay back more than $7,400 in extra benefits to charity, while Quinn was told to pay back more than $8,100. Both players transferred to Division I-AA schools — Bomar to Sam Houston State and Quinn to Montana — where they can resume their careers this season.

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Oklahoma officials also appeared before the Committee on Infractions in April 2006 following an investigation into hundreds of improper recruiting phone calls by former basketball coach Kelvin Sampson's staff.

Oklahoma escaped major sanctions in that case, as the NCAA Committee on Infractions found the university guilty of a "failure to monitor," a less severe ruling than "lack of institutional control," which had been recommended by the NCAA's enforcement staff.

The committee moved Oklahoma's self-imposed probation so it would begin in May 2006 and end in May 2008. The NCAA also issued a public reprimand and censure but otherwise accepted the university's self-imposed sanctions, which included reductions in scholarships, recruiting calls and trips and visits to the school by prospective recruits.

I would also like to give a big shout out to Kelvin today as he really helped the football team before he left

Appreciate it Kelvin...Please (not) come back and visit anytime

[QUOTE=metro;107901] If they can take back our win's, why can't they take back the obviously incorrect Oregon "win" from last year.


Good point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would also like to give a big shout out to Kelvin today as he really helped the football team before he left

Appreciate it Kelvin...Please (not) come back and visit anytime

It seems the Kelvin incidents actually contributed to the severity of the punishment, which makes no sense. Why tack on punishment for the football program because of something that happened with a basketball coach?

OU is self reporting and doing everything with integrity. Other schools like USC and Ohio State are allowed to hide everything and get away with any kind of punishment. The NCAA has had it out for OU ever since the 1980 Oklahoma/Georgia vs NCAA lawsuit. This is BS.

Well the ruling is crap, but could have been a whole lot worse I guess

Fine w/ forfeiture of the '05 wins...Season sucked anyway

They don't forfeit the wins.. the wins are vacated. That means the record for '05 is 0-4.

So what does that mean for Oregon? Another freebie victory?

So what does that mean for Oregon? Another freebie victory?

No. The game never happened. It's not a win or a loss for Oregon.

As bad as this sounds, it really could have been a lot worse. Sure the reduction of a scholarship may hurt but everyone saw that coming. As far as vacating an entire season's worth of victories, its litte more than a power play by the NCAA to humiliate the school. Oh well a little bad press now but it will make it all the more sweeter when OU shuts everyone up next season, especially :ou2 !

BOOMER SOONER! EIGHT IN '08!

Has or can anything be done to Bad McRae, oh he of "I-thirty-fiiiiiive, Norman! fame?" I know the University has supposedly "cut him off," but I'm sure he will manage to make it to games - acquiring tickets through friends, etc.

While I agree the University should be held accountable and did an admirable job in taking what action they could when they found out about the mess, some accountability needs to happen by the booster who let this get out of hand.

I don't really know what would be appropriate, and I'm certain Mr. McRae is in a Witness Protection program somewhere given the rability of most OU fans I know. Regardless, coming out with some kind of sanction against him would send a message to other boosters to keep "hands off."

Bomar was, is, and always will be a loser!

I can not believe that Big Red hasn't stepped up to take the beating they deserve for this. Are they really that stupid? They are in the heart of Norman. They will never sell a car again. I bet people who bought their cars there are trying to return those! It doesn't matter that they are under new ownership. The name is ruined. I think that whole story is fishy anyway, conveniently Brad slips out from under that name during this time! whatever. They need to give up their Clinton statements, we aren't buying the bull.