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I read today that social rejection is processed in the brain in the same area and same manner as physical pain. So when someone is turned down for a date or rejected by an SO or a clique, the brain treats it the same way as physical pain.
This is not processed as minor pain such as a pin prick or papercut, it's processed as intense pain such as broken bones or a hard hit in the stomach. That's important because the brain learns not to repeat the behavior that resulted in the pain....Don't piss off the guy who punched you...don't jump from the balcony, etc.
So it was thought that a person would learn to avoid the possibility of social rejection ie. Do not approach strangers, do not ask for a date.
What do you all think of this?
Oki_Man5 02-24-2006, 06:14 AM The theory does not seem to make sense to me---I do not need to jump off a balcony to learn not to do it again: I can look over the balcony and see whether it is too high to safely sprint over it.
Now, for the theory as it applies to asking for a date: That would be an easy crutch to hold onto to convince oneself not to approach someone of the opposite sex (or same sex for some), but just like not having to jump over the railing to know it is going to hurt if I jump, maybe just sizing up the "prospect" would give some insight as to whether the other person was approachable by oneself.
How do you present yourself when you might be going to approach someone? What do you look for in one you might desire to approach?
I do not have the answers to those q's since it has been many many years since I have been in the market to approach.
Yet I will say that many people who post on here if they ever hope to impress anyone else on here need to learn to proofread, and if necessary, buy yourself a dictionary.
If I do not shut up, I will get around to saying something like this board should be renamed to "OKC Snobs" since we are so good at berating Wal-Mart shoppers.
:backtotop
Yeah! That has been eating on me---
Any of you found a place to meet at the Movie Shooting tomorrow?
Leon---start it off by saying you will be there and exactly how other OKC Talk Posters can fine you!
Yet I will say that many people who post on here if they ever hope to impress anyone else on here need to learn to proofread, and if necessary, buy yourself a dictionary.
If I do not shut up, I will get around to saying something like this board should be renamed to "OKC Snobs" since we are so good at berating Wal-Mart shoppers.
Yeah! That has been eating on me---
Any of you found a place to meet at the Movie Shooting tomorrow?
Leon---start it off by saying you will be there and exactly how other OKC Talk Posters can find you!
Is that a dig on me, Oki Man?
I missed the Wal-mart comments in the past so I can't relate to that comment.
And I don't know anything about a movie shooting. I wouldn't be there anyway; I have plans for a road trip with a "more friendly" group. Not to mention that I don't expect to meet the"OKC Snobs" in person now anyway and will never again make plans to do so. It's a waste of time.
osupa05 02-24-2006, 08:01 AM Ouch, Leon... for having never met some (or any) of us, you are quick to judge! I happen to know a few people on this site and would hang out with them any day of the week!!!!
gbyte 02-24-2006, 10:34 AM Well if I'm one of those I'm lucky but the ballpark was fun :) Just wish my schedule right now was a bit easier to figure out, heh
Midtowner 02-24-2006, 10:46 AM I read today that social rejection is processed in the brain in the same area and same manner as physical pain. So when someone is turned down for a date or rejected by an SO or a clique, the brain treats it the same way as physical pain.
This is not processed as minor pain such as a pin prick or papercut, it's processed as intense pain such as broken bones or a hard hit in the stomach. That's important because the brain learns not to repeat the behavior that resulted in the pain....Don't piss off the guy who punched you...don't jump from the balcony, etc.
So it was thought that a person would learn to avoid the possibility of social rejection ie. Do not approach strangers, do not ask for a date.
What do you all think of this?
Sounds like a very odd rationalization of a single person as to why they can't work up the courage to ask someone out.
Ouch, Leon... for having never met some (or any) of us, you are quick to judge! I happen to know a few people on this site and would hang out with them any day of the week!!!!
I have met some of you, not as many as I'd like. Not trying to start anything, but seriously, would you do so any day of the week without a week's notice? I would and I have, ask Kelly.
My bad this morning... I awoke on the wrong side of the bed with too little sleep to a reply here that completely missed the point of my original post and then turned it on me.
But to anyone who implies that I fabricated the point as a "crutch" here's the article's link:
http://karmak.org/archive/2003/12/ego-pain.html
I did not label this group, of which I am a member, the "OKC Snobs". But I will agree that many/most of the members here lack the desire or motivation to expand their circle of friends. And really that's OK, this place has never been advertised as a place to "actually meet" real people, only as a place to decipher the pixelated thoughts of other singles.
As a group of people I'd be happy to introduce most of you as friends to my other friends. I guess I'm the most sociable 'snob' I know. Maybe my lifestyle is a bit more spontaneous than most, but I don't mind a no-notice invitation to sip a brew and shoot some pool....come "as you are" because "as you are" is always OK with a friend, you won't be 'evaluated'. I don't want or need to ever plan dinner two weeks in advance. Tomorrow, next week, and two weeks from now I'll be eating somewhere and it really doesn't matter where, what time, or with whom...I'm gonna eat. In fact, I'm having dinner and going out tonight and I'll know where shortly after I climb in my truck and start it up. You wanna go?
BTW: Leon the Snob has actually met three ladies in person from this forum and enjoyed the Norman Fall Festival, movies, dinner, coffee, and drinks in some combination with them. I'll bet none of them would label me a snob.....well, maybe one, but she would be the fourth. :)
Rooster_Cogburn 02-24-2006, 07:14 PM Who cares about rejection? You win some, you lose some its a fact of life.
My advice to you is to trade your computer in for a life.
You are not going to find a desirable female or male (depending on your preference.) on your computer.
Most people looking for love on the internet are cheaters, psychos, those with too many expectations and those who are just looking to use people for free dates and sex.
If people do not want to meet you its there loss not yours. So why fear rejection? Real men live in the real world not on www._________.com
Besides cupid does not make house calls he works in the world of spontaneity. Which is usually in places where people congregate.
Now do us all a favor trade in your mangina for the real thing and live a little you are giving men a bad name.
At the rate your going your are about to be one of those guys with lost of girls that are friends but no girlfriend
kellekokid 02-25-2006, 12:49 AM Who cares about rejection? You win some, you lose some its a fact of life.
My advice to you is to trade your computer in for a life.
You are not going to find a desirable female or male (depending on your preference.) on your computer.
Most people looking for love on the internet are cheaters, psychos, those with too many expectations and those who are just looking to use people for free dates and sex.
If people do not want to meet you its there loss not yours. So why fear rejection? Real men live in the real world not on www._________.com (http://www._________.com)
Besides cupid does not make house calls he works in the world of spontaneity. Which is usually in places where people congregate.
Now do us all a favor trade in your mangina for the real thing and live a little you are giving men a bad name.
At the rate your going your are about to be one of those guys with lost of girls that are friends but no girlfriend
Wow! That's really kinda harsh don'tcha think? Seeing that Leon was the one that got this thread started and the posted comment right before yours I can't help but read in it that you are directing your comments to/about him....my apologies if I'm wrong. I do feel like I have to make note as did Leon that he was merely posting an article and looking for people's thoughts on said article he was not infering that he live his life via his computer....which again is something he never implied he does.
Frankly no matter who the "mangina" comment was directed at it was rather over the top IMO. Really wasn't a nice thing to say to some one you know nothing of.
My advice to you is to trade your computer in for a life.
Thanks for that advice, Judge Cogburnt....I see you spent a portion of your Friday night-life on YOUR PC.
You are not going to find a desirable female or male (depending on your preference.) on your computer.
Or should I say, Judge Sherlock?.....Ladies, are none of you desirable?.....Judge can ask that of the fellas since that crossed his mind.
Most people looking for love on the internet are cheaters, psychos, those with too many expectations and those who are just looking to use people for free dates and sex.
Those with low standards, you say? That's obviously not the case here....If anyone's 'looking for love here'.
If people do not want to meet you its there their loss not yours. So why fear rejection?
We agree here....Get rejected by one, move on to the next....No one should ever expect everyone to be thrilled by them.
Real men live in the real world not on www._________.com (http://www._________.com)
What 'real world' TV channel did Judge Cockburnt spend his Friday night watching?...After he left his PC.
Besides cupid does not make house calls he works in the world of spontaneity. Which is usually in places where people congregate.
Now do us all a favor, trade in your mangina for the real thing and live a little. Yyou are giving men a bad name.
How do you figure that posting a news story and asking others' opinions gives men a bad name? Did I do something other that that....please point it out. A real mangina?
At the rate your going your are about to be one of those guys with lost lots of girls that are friends but no girlfriend
I'm exactly where I want to be, Rooster. I have girl 'friends' and girl 'FRIENDS' intellectual and physical. I don't need or want for one to commit herself to me. The only reason for a man to commit is for the recipricol. I'll look for that when I tired of going out on Friday nights and would rather stay at home and watch A&E.
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Rooster_Cogburn 02-25-2006, 01:16 AM Did I strike a nerve little man. The whole reason you posted this was to provoke sympathy for yourself.
So people like kelleokid would say something like "It will be otay keep your chin up......how about hug?
Maybe you should invite your girlfriends over for so they can coddle and suckle you.
This is the new America where everyone feels sorry for themselves and expects everyone else to solve their problems.
The truth hurts doesn't it.
Hey, Bubba, Why aren't you in bed with the little lady? Rejected you again.....get back to your internet porno
Did I strike a nerve little man. The whole reason you posted this was to provoke sympathy for yourself.
So people like kelleokid would say something like "It will be otay keep your chin up......how about hug?
Maybe you should invite your girlfriends over for so they can coddle and suckle you.
This is the new America where everyone feels sorry for themselves and expects everyone else to solve their problems.
The truth hurts doesn't it.
Are you drunk. Rooster?....Typing's gone bad.
Mr. Rooster,......at least two of us are laughing at you.....you are an entertaining momma huncha!....Tell us some more!
Roosta, I see you're still on line.......Thinkin'?
Rooster_Cogburn 02-25-2006, 01:37 AM Nah I let losers like you ramble on... then I clean thier clock.
Especially when they talk trash about my wife.
I can say this much my kids are all mine.
Your's on the other hand were probably fathered by the mailman or the ups guy.
kellekokid 02-25-2006, 01:39 AM Stoop, girl,
Sorry honey, I'm having to stop all the "suckling" cause I'm laughing to hard at his cock of the walk comments...gotta catch my breath
Wow....took you a long time to come up with that.
You've been to school, huh?
Does your wife know you're hangin' in the Singles Lounge? I'll bet not. I wonder what she'd think.
I know where my child came from.....maybe you need to reconsider where YOU came from
Oki_Man5 02-25-2006, 06:49 AM Wow! This certainly got out of control.
Admittedly, when I read the opening post, no matter what kelliekokid thinks, my thoughts on it were that Leon was seeking sympathy as his reason for posting it. Was I wrong? I dunno, but I have not changed my thoughts even based on the exchange that has come thru in this thread.
Yeah! I am married too, and I know who fathered my child, but that is not to suggest I am thinking differently about anyone else.
I have not much to say here, but sometimes sympathy-seeking people are easy to spot.
This thread is quickly approaching the TOS limits. Read the TOS or stay off the board. Although controversial Rooster has a right to question a post or even a persons life situation.
Members, however, do NOT have the freedom to personally bash other members directly. This is NOT a public message board posting is privilege not a right.
sweetdaisy 02-25-2006, 09:08 AM Wow! This certainly got out of control.
Admittedly, when I read the opening post, no matter what kelliekokid thinks, my thoughts on it were that Leon was seeking sympathy as his reason for posting it. Was I wrong? I dunno, but I have not changed my thoughts even based on the exchange that has come thru in this thread.
Yeah! I am married too, and I know who fathered my child, but that is not to suggest I am thinking differently about anyone else.
I have not much to say here, but sometimes sympathy-seeking people are easy to spot.
One of the things you need to realize about Leon and the Singles Lounge is that he often posts thoughts and asks others to comment on them. He tries to spark discussion and get others to weigh in on it...he is NOT sympathy seeking. Leon has taken his lumps in the past and has moved forward and is therefore looking to get some conversation going amongst the other singles on this board.
So this time he posted something about an ARTICLE he read. Not his own thoughts, but something in print. I'm not sure how that can be construed as "sympathy seeking" in the least. I think you are WAY off base here, Okiman.
And for those of you who are married and being ugly to Leon for trying to spark discussion here in the Single's Lounge, please remember the name of the forum. It's the SINGLE'S LOUNGE and it's about issues we deal with. You may not always like what's in here, but you have the option of not reading what's posted.
Many of you have been married so long you have no idea the issues we singles now face. And though you may be able to "remember when", it's a whole new world of dating out there and it's NOT easy (as evidenced by some of my "rant" posts). Please be respectful to the singles here.
BTW, Rooster, you no nothing about any of us, so please tread lightly with your ugly comments about noone on here being "desireable". I would beg to differ...
Keith 02-25-2006, 07:32 PM Nah I let losers like you ramble on... then I clean thier clock.
Especially when they talk trash about my wife.
I can say this much my kids are all mine.
Your's on the other hand were probably fathered by the mailman or the ups guy.
I know you are new here, however, we must all abide by the TOS of this forum. The personal attacks that you have made are not acceptable and violate the TOS. There are many ways to post on this forum without personally attacking someone.
Consider this your first warning. We don't ever like to ban members, however, we will not put up with members that continuously violate the TOS.
As Todd said, this thread is getting very close to breaking the TOS, so everybody needs to play nice. :dizzy:
Oki_Man5 02-25-2006, 08:03 PM Wow! Again! Musta hit some kind of nerve that SweetDaisy has for her to come out swinging like that.
I ducked, by the way as ole Rooster walked right into the bar. LOL
So, Sweetdaisy, I am not entitled to have an opinion, or am I just not allowed to speak it in YOUR SINGLES LOUNGE? Please note that there is no "'" in Singles, so it is not posessive.
Whatever difference that^^^^makes LOL
Oki_Man5 02-25-2006, 08:16 PM OK Leon, Since SweetDaisy popped me like she did, might you mention how you ran onto that web site that you posted about in this thread?
Thanks, Pete
Rooster_Cogburn 02-25-2006, 10:27 PM The only reason why someone would post something like this is for attention.
I am sorry I there is nothing I hate more than someone who is feeling sorry for themselves. What was I supposed to do join in on the pity party Sweetdaisy. So you could come in and save the day with some positive words.
Sweetdaisy the dating scene has not changed in years. What has changed is the way people approach it. These days the singles crowd has to over think every thing about love and relationships.
The not so confident people spend every minute before, during and after a date beating themselves up over the situation. The the ones who are somewhat confident scrutinize every action thier date makes and tends to be too judgmental.
Both sides leave the date even more confused then they did before. How are you supposed to enjoy a date when you are acting like a desperate fool or running over Cosmo's latest list of Dating Tips in your head.
Spontaneity and Simplicity are the keys to love. Back when I was dating I had three basic rules. I never went on a date with anyone that I was not strongly attracted to. I made it a point to have fun regardless of the situation. I spoke up when I was not interested unlike some of you singles today.
If I had one message for every single it would be this grow a spine, fear nothing and stop taking finding a mate so seriously. Love is not rocket science stop making it so complicated.
Their is no reason to fear anything what will be is what will be.
Deal with it move on.
Now to all of you stop being a bunch of crybabies and move on.
You want to stay single forever spend your life crying about it.
You want to meat someone who is quality get active and live your life. Eventually someone will turn up.
Peace and Bacon Grease
I think there's a difference between a mate and a date. I don't want a mate. It's wrong for you to assume someone does.
Also, you shouldn't try to tell anyone what they think or feel. You don't think you're telepathic, do ya?
OK Leon, Since SweetDaisy popped me like she did, might you mention how you ran onto that web site that you posted about in this thread?
Thanks, Pete
I couldn't retrace my steps exactly. But I think the way people behave and why is interesting. So I try to learn about it. I post a lot here about the things I read. Sometimes it sparks a lot of discussion, sometimes it doesn't. I try to trigger peoples' thoughts and ask that they post them. Regardless of what anyone thinks of me personally, I'll continue to do so. This is a discussion board. If anyone has an issue with my posts, maybe they should ignore them or try posting a thread of their own occassionally. They just can't seem to resist stooping to personal attacks. Maybe I'll start a thread soon concerning why people tend to 'attack the messenger' instead of the message.
Rooster_Cogburn 02-26-2006, 02:07 AM Well I am done with this discussion.
It is clear to see why this singles section is so dead?
You guys should rename the singles lounge to the crying room.
Truthfully, I came here to see if I could find out a little more about the Oklahoma singles scene so I could help out my younger brother.
None of you real know anything about being single okc except for the fact that your lonely.
If you did you would be talking about places to go on dates. Places to meet the best single people. You would be having gatherings to socialize and get to know each other.
I am guessing you guys are afraid of one another because I read the meeting threads. Nobody is that busy. If you want to do something bad enough you find the time. I think the women on here are afraid of being stalked by some of you. So that is why they are always busy. While some of the guys are just plain afraid of being rejected. So they say their busy too just look cool.
Well that is my last post on the singles lounge section because I am little too real for all of you. I rattle your cages too much when I state the facts.
So with that I am out here.
Don't Forget to Change the name to the Crying Room. Truthfully, that is all this discussion section is.
Well I am done with this discussion.
facts.
Good. LOL
I'll bet ya can't resist returning though.
Oki_Man5 02-26-2006, 06:24 AM Well! Rooster, I might not agree with the way you said some of the things you said, but I cannot find a way to disagree with what you said.
You have to admit that you were a bit harsh to say the least especially to that Darlin' Sweet Daisy. LOL
sweetdaisy 02-26-2006, 10:59 AM Wow! Again! Musta hit some kind of nerve that SweetDaisy has for her to come out swinging like that.
I ducked, by the way as ole Rooster walked right into the bar. LOL
So, Sweetdaisy, I am not entitled to have an opinion, or am I just not allowed to speak it in YOUR SINGLES LOUNGE? Please note that there is no "'" in Singles, so it is not posessive.
Whatever difference that^^^^makes LOL
Dearest Okiman, you are always entitled to your opinion, and you know that. My comment regarding it being the single's lounge is b/c sometimes this is a "safe" place for a single person to come and throw out a rant or have a pity party or whatever. I think it's good to throw out a few whiny sessions here and there to clear your mind of whatever's ailing you. And I'm sure you've seen, the singles on here often beat up on each other for being too whiny, etc, but they can also be supportive or suggest better ways of viewing situations.
My comment to you on this particular thread, Okiman, was to simply point out the fact that Leon was not sympathy seeking when he started this. He saw an article and wanted to see what people thought about it. I do not believe he had any other intention.
The sad thing is, noone has bothered to comment on the silly article, but have instead pounced on an individual and slung blanket statements about what losers we are.
Rooster, I will agree with your statement about not knowing what it's like to be single in OKC. I've been here over a year, and creating a social circle here is not that easy (at least compared to what I'm used to). However, it just takes a little motivation to go out and do SOMETHING (anything, really), and opportunities to meet others will come along...
Thanks for your thoughts guys...I just ask that you ease up on some of the "nasties". :)
Oki_Man5 02-26-2006, 11:13 AM The theory does not seem to make sense to me---I do not need to jump off a balcony to learn not to do it again: I can look over the balcony and see whether it is too high to safely sprint over it.
Now, for the theory as it applies to asking for a date: That would be an easy crutch to hold onto to convince oneself not to approach someone of the opposite sex (or same sex for some), but just like not having to jump over the railing to know it is going to hurt if I jump, maybe just sizing up the "prospect" would give some insight as to whether the other person was approachable by oneself.
How do you present yourself when you might be going to approach someone? What do you look for in one you might desire to approach?
I do not have the answers to those q's since it has been many many years since I have been in the market to approach.
Yet I will say that many people who post on here if they ever hope to impress anyone else on here need to learn to proofread, and if necessary, buy yourself a dictionary.
If I do not shut up, I will get around to saying something like this board should be renamed to "OKC Snobs" since we are so good at berating Wal-Mart shoppers.
:backtotop
Yeah! That has been eating on me---
Any of you found a place to meet at the Movie Shooting tomorrow?
Leon---start it off by saying you will be there and exactly how other OKC Talk Posters can fine you!
Now, Miss Daisy, if you go back to the beginning of this thread, you will find this to be my first input into it, and you will also find that it was on Leon's third post to the thread (his second reply) before he listed the URL of the "study." That was like after my input and after OSUPA and Midtowner had weighed in on it, and if you reread Midtowner's post, I ask how you could have singled me out as the "bad guy."
You have a very wonderful day, Miss Daisy, and thank you for thinking of me. :LolLolLol Peace! Miss Daisy.
Oki_Man5 02-26-2006, 11:16 AM OOPs! I shoulda took my own advice and proofread---the last two words of the quote should have been "find you" and not "fine you."
sweetdaisy 02-26-2006, 11:18 AM Oops! My bad, Okiman! Thank you so much for pointing that out. I guess I became so overwhelmed by the banter, that I missed the original comments!
While responding, I was viewing comments (at the bottom of the screen), and it apparently does not show all responses. Guess I should've scrolled through a bit more.
Although, I should've remembered your comment, as the "OKCSnobs" statement caught my eye and made me laugh. :D
So to you and any others I overlooked on this, my apologies.
Peace to you, Okiman! ;)
Oki_Man5 02-26-2006, 11:22 AM She don't mean it, guys---she has her fingers King's Exed behind her back on one hand, and a dagger clutched in the other. LOL
Midtowner 02-26-2006, 11:50 AM ...and if you reread Midtowner's post, I ask how you could have singled me out as the "bad guy."...
So am I the bad guy? Re-reread and take note that I didn't single anyone out. I just questioned the validity of the study and its potential use in justifying perpetual singlehood. Perhaps I used fewer words than were necessary to make that clear, and I see how it may have been taken as an affront. It certainly was not meant to be.
Rooster/Cock, whatever the heck his name is appears to be a http://www.urbanites.plus.com/troll.gif
Oki_Man5 02-26-2006, 11:56 AM Midtowner, nor did I single you nor OSUPA out as a bad guy; I simply stated that you two had weighed in on the "bashing" LOL before Leon ever posted the URL; none of us had the opportunity to read what the study said when we were asked to comment.
osupa05 02-26-2006, 03:56 PM Wow.. I missed some fun/not so fun fireworks!!! Man this working thing is putting a damper on my okctalk time!!!!
Oki_Man5 02-26-2006, 05:51 PM Then you best stop working and get on welfare, so you can keep up!
osupa05 02-26-2006, 06:34 PM haha!!!! :~P
Oki_Man5 02-26-2006, 08:34 PM That is not a bit of tongue you pouched out there; is it, girl?
osupa05 02-27-2006, 06:27 AM perhaps!!!???!!!
Oki_Man5 02-27-2006, 06:36 AM Mayhaps the big guy bump u under your chin? LOL
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mranderson 02-27-2006, 08:42 AM Actually, it makes sense. I am not able to count the number of times a woman hurt me by turning me down with no good reason, let alone giving me one at all. For that reason, to this day, I find it difficult to ask a woman out.
Oki_Man5 02-27-2006, 06:30 PM Maybe you should have told her your name was Bob or Joe or Bill or whatever instead of telling her it was Mr. Anderson; you think?
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