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Pete
10-16-2024, 11:25 AM
Even in the vast Inland Empire it doesn't get hot and stay hot like here and it doesn't get nearly as cold.

In the dead of summer, the evenings and mornings are still very nice.

Mississippi Blues
10-16-2024, 12:37 PM
Even in the vast Inland Empire it doesn't get hot and stay hot like here and it doesn't get nearly as cold.

In the dead of summer, the evenings and mornings are still very nice.

Which is why I said “it’s still not as extreme as Oklahoma.” There’s not many places as year-round extreme as Oklahoma, but being more tolerable with lower utilities than Oklahoma doesn’t make the areas I mentioned as mild or temperate as Malibu or Thousand Oaks, and it doesn’t take long (not factoring in traffic) for that to become apparent.

Bunty
10-16-2024, 12:46 PM
Even in the vast Inland Empire it doesn't get hot and stay hot like here and it doesn't get nearly as cold.

In the dead of summer, the evenings and mornings are still very nice.

I doubt for the summer heat in Riverside. Riverside has record highs into the hundreds for 9 out of 12 months. I doubt Riverside ever had a summer in which it never got to 100. At least very true that it never gets below zero there.

BoulderSooner
10-16-2024, 01:05 PM
that is good for california ... their average KWH price is almost triple that of oklahoma ..

Pete
10-16-2024, 01:19 PM
ONG also charges you a minimum of $35 per month, even if you don't use any gas at all. That doesn't happen in California.

Also, Cali has was more liberal incentives on solar which is why you see it all over the place out there and very rarely here.

My utilities were roughly 1/3rd what I pay here and home insurance is more as well.

Bunty
10-16-2024, 06:21 PM
TV weather put the low for Stillwater at 29, but at my urban Stillwater location it was 36. So, none of my flowers, the marigolds, died. The 29 low is from a Mesonet station. It's located in a rural OSU location west of OSU campus. Where it froze in the rural areas surely killed off the ragweed and other pollen sources for allergy suffers.

gjl
10-16-2024, 07:21 PM
Looks like we are headed back to the mid to upper 80s next week SMH.

Anonymous.
10-17-2024, 07:51 AM
Beautiful weekend coming up. Then yes, we head back to record high temperatures and continued strengthening of drought. Fire danger will really start picking up next week.

Looks like W/NW OK could get a drink this weekend. For C OK, I don't see any legitimate rain chances through the end of the month. The latest drought monitor that came out today (10/17) has over 30% of the state in Cat 4 drought [Extreme]. I would not be surprised to see the highest Category 5 [Exceptional] return to our state on the next outlook.

The recent tropical systems saved the east coast, otherwise the whole eastern half of the US would be in some form of a drought.

C_M_25
10-17-2024, 11:14 AM
I know we’ve had worse droughts but this is up there in the top 5 for what I’ve experienced.

BG918
10-17-2024, 04:42 PM
Models are in agreement that NE NM and the Texas/Oklahoma panhandles will see some high rainfall totals over the weekend. Then there is divergence in the models with what happens after with the GFS showing potential for heavy rains across Texas and the others not showing anything.

OkiePoke
10-17-2024, 05:02 PM
ONG also charges you a minimum of $35 per month, even if you don't use any gas at all. That doesn't happen in California.

Also, Cali has was more liberal incentives on solar which is why you see it all over the place out there and very rarely here.

My utilities were roughly 1/3rd what I pay here and home insurance is more as well.

Those incentives have gone away for roof top solar, well at least changed quite a bit.

Pete
10-17-2024, 05:17 PM
Those incentives have gone away for roof top solar, well at least changed quite a bit.

Lots of the solar incentives come from the local energy companies and municipalities, not just federal.

The state also provides easy financing through slightly increased property tax and a long payout.


When I moved back here I was shocked to see a tiny percentage of solar arrays compared to what you see all over California.

I'd say fully half my neighbors there had solar and in my current neighborhood it's maybe 1%.

April in the Plaza
10-17-2024, 05:30 PM
Lots of the solar incentives come from the local energy companies and municipalities, not just federal.

The state also provides easy financing through slightly increased property tax and a long payout.


When I moved back here I was shocked to see a tiny percentage of solar arrays compared to what you see all over California.

I'd say fully half my neighbors there had solar and in my current neighborhood it's maybe 1%.

isn't the net metering situation also a mess here?

like, the utility will buy kWh's back but it won't be anywhere close to the market rate. last i heard, the average was like 3 cents/kWh.

OkiePoke
10-18-2024, 09:10 AM
isn't the net metering situation also a mess here?

like, the utility will buy kWh's back but it won't be anywhere close to the market rate. last i heard, the average was like 3 cents/kWh.

Correct. You sell to OG&E at wholesale (like 3 cents).

Net Metering in California has recently changed, too. They had some issues w/ the duck curve, etc. Had to come up with some other ways to provide a consistent power generation curve.

Pete
10-18-2024, 09:42 AM
How many times have we gone a full month with zero or close to zero precip?

Anonymous.
10-18-2024, 11:33 AM
From what I could find. OKC has only gone 2 months in recorded history with zero precipitation.

January 1986 & August 2000.

BG918
10-18-2024, 12:44 PM
From what I could find. OKC has only gone 2 months in recorded history with zero precipitation.

January 1986 & August 2000.

Incredible, and very possible this month

C_M_25
10-20-2024, 09:07 AM
Sad days. Our pond is basically gone. It’s been so stinking dry. I don’t know where I stand with this fall. The morning and evening temps have been fine but the heat and dryness really stinks.

BG918
10-20-2024, 10:23 AM
Sad days. Our pond is basically gone. It’s been so stinking dry. I don’t know where I stand with this fall. The morning and evening temps have been fine but the heat and dryness really stinks.

The heat and dryness along with the putrid state of OU football has made this the most depressing fall in recent memory. I’m not that old but definitely nostalgic for those all-day rainy/cloudy days we used to get in October.

bison34
10-20-2024, 10:33 AM
Seems like El Nino was only here for like, 8 months. Or La Nina. I get them mixed up.

gjl
10-20-2024, 10:55 AM
One full month into fall and we will be nearing 90 degrees on Tuesday.

BG918
10-20-2024, 02:44 PM
We are not alone, the drought is becoming widespread across a large portion of the country

https://coyotegulch.blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/usdroughtmonitor10152024-1024x791.png

SEMIweather
10-20-2024, 03:31 PM
Keeping my eyes on the time period between 10/27 and 11/05 for a round or two of severe weather. Also, possibly our latest ever 90-degree day (our current latest is October 26th).

floyd the barber
10-20-2024, 07:51 PM
It's been almost two months and maybe more since we have had rain here and this is not a hyperbole.

SEMIweather
10-20-2024, 10:26 PM
It's been almost two months and maybe more since we have had rain here and this is not a hyperbole.

This just is not true, there was a fairly notable rain event across the entire Metro on September 22nd, everyone got at least 0.25" with most areas south of I-40 receiving 1"+. We are in a bad spot, but let's not exaggerate.

It is interesting to me that a decent portion of the Metro, centered around Cleveland County, has managed to stay in no drought or D0 territory on the UNL Drought Monitor (https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/CurrentMap/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?OK) pretty much due to large amounts of rain on two days in the past 10+ weeks, those two days being the aforementioned September 22nd, and also August 11th which was an even more notable event. But I can't imagine that getting deluged twice over the past 71 days and counting is as healthy for the ecosystem as a more even distribution of the same amount of precipitation over the same amount of time would be. And in any case, the entire Metro will most likely be in the D1 category or worse by this time next month if we don't at least pick up a couple inches of rain between now and then.

Was also out at Lake Hefner this evening and noticed that water levels have once again started to noticeably recede, plenty of visible sand on the eastern shoreline.

kukblue1
10-20-2024, 10:36 PM
You can check mesonet to get rainfall totals. Parts of the metro doing welling well. My area by lake overholster, Yukon, El Reno, Guthrie not so much with around .70 in 60 days. Less than an inch in 60 days. Last big rain in these areas were Aug 10th maybe 11th. So more like less than in inch in 2 1/2 months. If you get rain tomorrow go buy a lottery ticket.

BG918
10-20-2024, 10:59 PM
You can check mesonet to get rainfall totals. Parts of the metro doing welling well. My area by lake overholster, Yukon, El Reno, Guthrie not so much with around .70 in 60 days. Less than an inch in 60 days. Last big rain in these areas were Aug 10th maybe 11th. So more like less than in inch in 2 1/2 months. If you get rain tomorrow go buy a lottery ticket.

https://data.mesonet.org/data/public/mesonet/maps/daily/mesonet.rainfall.quarterinch.png?cache_bust=172948 3084928

C_M_25
10-21-2024, 10:56 AM
This just is not true, there was a fairly notable rain event across the entire Metro on September 22nd, everyone got at least 0.25" with most areas south of I-40 receiving 1"+. We are in a bad spot, but let's not exaggerate.

It is interesting to me that a decent portion of the Metro, centered around Cleveland County, has managed to stay in no drought or D0 territory on the UNL Drought Monitor (https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/CurrentMap/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?OK) pretty much due to large amounts of rain on two days in the past 10+ weeks, those two days being the aforementioned September 22nd, and also August 11th which was an even more notable event. But I can't imagine that getting deluged twice over the past 71 days and counting is as healthy for the ecosystem as a more even distribution of the same amount of precipitation over the same amount of time would be. And in any case, the entire Metro will most likely be in the D1 category or worse by this time next month if we don't at least pick up a couple inches of rain between now and then.

Was also out at Lake Hefner this evening and noticed that water levels have once again started to noticeably recede, plenty of visible sand on the eastern shoreline.

It may not be true for you, but it is true for a lot of us. That rain event was nice but covered a very small geographic area. Much of the OKC area (suburbs included) haven't seen rain in 60+ days.

MagzOK
10-21-2024, 11:05 AM
My last measurable rainfall was 28 days ago, and it was 0.08", in north Edmond. My lawn is already dormant and has been for a while.

C_M_25
10-21-2024, 11:25 AM
My last measurable rainfall was 28 days ago, and it was 0.08", in north Edmond. My lawn is already dormant and has been for a while.

Yeah, my last measurable was about 50 days ago at 0.15 inches.

soooo.....I guess technically we did get rain in the past 60 days....

C_M_25
10-21-2024, 11:27 AM
OMG! The GFS hinting at some nice chances of rain the first of November. Do whatever you have to do for superstition. Shake the rain maker sticks. Wear your underwear on your head. Whatever it is. DO IT! We need it! lol

PhiAlpha
10-22-2024, 06:13 AM
How many times have we gone a full month with zero or close to zero precip?

It has now outlasted and surpassed OU’s passing TD drought. An impressive feat.

crimsoncrazy
10-22-2024, 07:36 AM
OMG! The GFS hinting at some nice chances of rain the first of November. Do whatever you have to do for superstition. Shake the rain maker sticks. Wear your underwear on your head. Whatever it is. DO IT! We need it! lol

And just like that it’s gone.

C_M_25
10-22-2024, 07:54 AM
Well crap. Looks like yet another hurricane is set to come in and steal our moisture again. So much for that rain at the start of the month. Man guys, this isn’t good.

kukblue1
10-22-2024, 10:08 AM
It has now outlasted and surpassed OU’s passing TD drought. An impressive feat.

We started an office pool before the Texas game. What will happen first rain or OU football win?

okcrun
10-22-2024, 01:47 PM
We started an office pool before the Texas game. What will happen first rain or OU football win?

God help us if we can't beat Maine lol

Bunty
10-22-2024, 02:26 PM
My goodness, you know a drought still means business when it does try to rain, it does very little. The mesonet for Stillwater only got .03. I only got .01. At most other personal weather stations in Stillwater, it didn't shower enough to trip the bucket, so they got ZERO. Only one site in Oklahoma got a semi-decent amount of rain.
https://www.mesonet.org/data/public/mesonet/maps/realtime/rainrfc.24hr.png

BG918
10-22-2024, 08:21 PM
Everyone root for the EURO model!

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2024102212/ecmwf_apcpn_scus_64.png

Anonymous.
10-23-2024, 04:13 PM
New record highs across the state were set today and tomorrow is likely as well.

Perhaps a sign of moisture around Halloween into November.

Pete
10-23-2024, 04:18 PM
We have barely even seen a cloud over the last two months.

bison34
10-23-2024, 04:31 PM
Ever since having about 4 inches of rain and 30 minutes straight of hail, it has been like Pete mentioned, bone dry and cloudless.

SEMIweather
10-23-2024, 08:37 PM
It feels like late June outside at the moment right now lol. Not great!!!

Celebrator
10-23-2024, 11:12 PM
We have barely even seen a cloud over the last two months.

Lots of there today and they were beautiful! I commented on them to people two or three times today. Gorgeous the way that autumn light was hitting them floating in those blue skies.

Bunty
10-23-2024, 11:54 PM
New record highs across the state were set today and tomorrow is likely as well.

Perhaps a sign of moisture around Halloween into November.

Tahlequah had a record high of 95.

Jake
10-24-2024, 09:59 AM
19231

kukblue1
10-24-2024, 10:47 AM
I'm not sure we are going to do it. Go the whole month with no rain. 30th and 31st have chances

gjl
10-24-2024, 10:48 AM
Ugh 91 again today. Hopefully the last day but Monday looks like the upper 80s.

OKCRealtor
10-24-2024, 04:19 PM
We're just gonna miss shorts & T-shirt weather for Trick or Treating it looks like. I remember it was quite cold last year in contrast. I hope we are done with the 90's.. any chance of a later November hot front given the pattern?

SEMIweather
10-24-2024, 04:25 PM
Couple of large wildfires burning in Western OK at the moment.

Bunty
10-24-2024, 06:07 PM
Couple of large wildfires burning in Western OK at the moment.
Other fires going on. Rogers County near Claremore. Near Bill's Corner north of Stillwater. Morrison school let out early.

BG918
10-27-2024, 07:49 PM
GFS rainfall forecast through next weekend. Fingers crossed this verifies!
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2024102718/gfs_apcpn_scus_30.png

The
10-27-2024, 10:31 PM
GFS rainfall forecast through next weekend. Fingers crossed this verifies!
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2024102718/gfs_apcpn_scus_30.png

Thanks for another jinx!

C_M_25
10-28-2024, 11:37 AM
This wind f’ing sucks. My Halloween decorations are toast.

gjl
10-28-2024, 04:17 PM
This wind f’ing sucks. My Halloween decorations are toast.

Just one more thing to hate about the weather in this state. Based on my opinion not backed up by facts.

BG918
10-28-2024, 04:47 PM
Slight risk of severe weather on Wednesday. Tornado parameters are actually looking fairly decent for almost-November - north-central Oklahoma would be the most likely area if one spins up.

https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day3otlk_1930.gif

kukblue1
10-28-2024, 04:59 PM
Timing of the front might be everything tomorrow for the metro. Right Now nam has storms blowing up right over okc 6pm time frame. However fronts always seem to come in faster in the fall than in the spring. Either way best area right now is along I-44 from OKC to Tulsa.

gjl
10-28-2024, 05:20 PM
Windy.com has the front arriving in OKC at 9PM on Wednesday..

kukblue1
10-28-2024, 09:29 PM
and the first HRRR run is in and blows storms up just east of OKC. West metro might get no rain. Nam st same just east of OKC but does show a storm just west of OKC. Drought leads too more drought. Might see a tornado or two in that state on Wednesday though. Front tends to undercut storms but need to watch closely. Will it be a dry line or dry line cold front?

SEMIweather
10-28-2024, 10:45 PM
Wednesday is going to be a very close call in terms of precip chances (and the accompanying severe weather threat) but either way, I'm pretty optimistic about our chances for notable drought relief across much of the state this weekend into early next week. And as an added bonus, the severe weather threat with that system looks very low, though there certainly could be a flood risk especially given how dry our soils are at the moment.

kukblue1
10-29-2024, 10:15 AM
HUM Maybe I should go check on my storm shelter for tomorrow? Possible interesting day tomorrow. Outbreak no far from it. A tornado or two possible. YES POSSIBLE. The front probably lines things out quickly though but there is a small window