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Hollywood
07-31-2024, 09:20 AM
The General Obligation (GO) Bond Advisory Task Force has finalized their proposal for the city and will most likely present it to the city council on August 12th. The $231 million proposal will include:


Widening Covell Road from Interstate 35 to Air Depot Boulevard;
Covell Road and Western Avenue intersection improvements;
Bike lane and pedestrian infrastructure improvements to Thatcher Street;
Second Street and South Boulevard intersection improvements;
Capacity improvements to 15th Street between South Boulevard and Broadway;
Capacity improvements to Edmond Road and Kelley Avenue;
Capacity improvements to 15th Street and Bryant Avenue;
Capacity improvements to Edmond Road and Santa Fe Avenue;
Widening Danforth Road from Holly Hill Road to Thomas Drive;
Covell Road and Santa Fe Avenue intersection improvements;
Widening Coltrane Road north of Second Street;
Completion of the Creek Bend trails;
Improving ballfields, infrastructure and amenities at Mitch Park;
Establishing a new park at Post Road and Second Street;
Establishing a veterans memorial;
Relocation/reconstruction of Fire Station No. 3;
Renovation of Service-Blake Soccer Complex;
Neighborhood parks playground replacement;
Phase 5 of Edmond’s Intelligent Transportation Systems implementation and
City street overlay/reconstruction.

I really hope that Number 14 "Establishing a new park at Post Road and Second Street" is referring to the proposed Bike Park in the Arcadia Lake Master Plan. That could be a big draw for riders traveling through on their way to or from Bentonville and the NW Arkansas region.

traxx
07-31-2024, 10:17 AM
GO Bond medicated oinkment

bison34
07-31-2024, 10:18 AM
GO Bond medicated oinkment

You tried :) jkjk

These would be great! Covell needs widened, given growth in north Edmond.

mugofbeer
07-31-2024, 10:24 AM
I think Edmond city limits extend to Pennsylvania along Covell. If they're going to do a bond issue for road improvements, why would they not just finish the east/west thoroughfare all the way?

jdross1982
07-31-2024, 10:27 AM
The General Obligation (GO) Bond Advisory Task Force has finalized their proposal for the city and will most likely present it to the city council on August 12th. The $231 million proposal will include:


Widening Covell Road from Interstate 35 to Air Depot Boulevard;
Covell Road and Western Avenue intersection improvements;
Bike lane and pedestrian infrastructure improvements to Thatcher Street;
Second Street and South Boulevard intersection improvements;
Capacity improvements to 15th Street between South Boulevard and Broadway;
Capacity improvements to Edmond Road and Kelley Avenue;
Capacity improvements to 15th Street and Bryant Avenue;
Capacity improvements to Edmond Road and Santa Fe Avenue;
Widening Danforth Road from Holly Hill Road to Thomas Drive;
Covell Road and Santa Fe Avenue intersection improvements;
Widening Coltrane Road north of Second Street;
Completion of the Creek Bend trails;
Improving ballfields, infrastructure and amenities at Mitch Park;
Establishing a new park at Post Road and Second Street;
Establishing a veterans memorial;
Relocation/reconstruction of Fire Station No. 3;
Renovation of Service-Blake Soccer Complex;
Neighborhood parks playground replacement;
Phase 5 of Edmond’s Intelligent Transportation Systems implementation and
City street overlay/reconstruction.

I really hope that Number 14 "Establishing a new park at Post Road and Second Street" is referring to the proposed Bike Park in the Arcadia Lake Master Plan. That could be a big draw for riders traveling through on their way to or from Bentonville and the NW Arkansas region.

That is exactly what it says in the notes for that item. "plans for a roadside park with a bicycle pump track" Would also include adding the Wiley Post statue.

jdross1982
07-31-2024, 10:29 AM
I think Edmond city limits extend to Pennsylvania along Covell. If they're going to do a bond issue for road improvements, why would they not just finish the east/west thoroughfare all the way?

That is most likely in the plans but not for this round. Getting Covell finished from Sante Fe to Air Depot addresses a massive need in the area with the amount of homes in the area.

Extending the expansion of Covell out to Penn and Penn to Portland would require OK County and Deer Creek to get involved but I agree that would be a huge win as well.

Hollywood
07-31-2024, 10:34 AM
That is exactly what it says in the notes for that item. "plans for a roadside park with a bicycle pump track" Would also include adding the Wiley Post statue.

In a FAA class this week and it has fried my mind... thanks for catching that. Would be stoked to see that idea come to fruition. YouTube "The Railyard Rogers" in Rogers, AR and it would be much like that (same designer).

jdross1982
07-31-2024, 10:36 AM
In a FAA class this week and it has fried my mind... thanks for catching that. Would be stoked to see that idea come to fruition. YouTube "The Railyard Rogers" in Rogers, AR and it would be much like that (same designer).

HAHA no worries. I have been following this and have read through the individual projects notes. Excited for the Covell projects and 2nd st ones to be done but all are needed.

BoulderSooner
07-31-2024, 10:54 AM
That is most likely in the plans but not for this round. Getting Covell finished from Sante Fe to Air Depot addresses a massive need in the area with the amount of homes in the area.

Extending the expansion of Covell out to Penn and Penn to Portland would require OK County and Deer Creek to get involved but I agree that would be a huge win as well.

deer creek is up north of enid up near kansas ..

Edmond can widen Covell (and the should ) just shy of Penn all on their own ..

from the intersection to 74 they do need the county to do it ..

BoulderSooner
07-31-2024, 10:55 AM
That is exactly what it says in the notes for that item. "plans for a roadside park with a bicycle pump track" Would also include adding the Wiley Post statue.

where are you seeing this online??

would love to read the notes for the other items

jdross1982
07-31-2024, 11:37 AM
where are you seeing this online??

would love to read the notes for the other items

https://destinyhosted.com/edmondocs/2024/GOBTF/20240715_30195/20056%5FProject%5FDescriptions%5FFlattened.pdf
https://destinyhosted.com/agenda_publish.cfm?id=33666&mt=ALL&vl=true&get_month=7&get_year=2024&dsp=agm&seq=20056&rev=0&ag=30194&ln=135185&nseq=&nrev=&pseq=20048&prev=0&vl=true#

jdross1982
07-31-2024, 11:38 AM
deer creek is up north of enid up near kansas ..

Edmond can widen Covell (and the should ) just shy of Penn all on their own ..

from the intersection to 74 they do need the county to do it ..

LOL you know exactly what I meant. It will need to be from OK County and Deer Creek residents will need to apply pressure to get their projects funded. From Penn to Portland absolutely should be funded but it wont be from Edmond.

onthestrip
07-31-2024, 12:47 PM
Road improvements are ranked about 1, 2 and 3 in importance to Edmond citizens it seems, and this covers a bunch. WIll be interesting to see if Edmond puts their money where their mouth is because this will increase prop taxes a bit.

Plutonic Panda
07-31-2024, 01:22 PM
I am really surprised to not see Covell from Coltrane all the way to Boulevard to be funded.

traxx
07-31-2024, 01:30 PM
Road improvements are ranked about 1, 2 and 3 in importance to Edmond citizens it seems, and this covers a bunch. WIll be interesting to see if Edmond puts their money where their mouth is because this will increase prop taxes a bit.

It is a big need. And as someone up thread pointed out, Edmond continues to grow. So streets get widened but city of Edmond wants to continue to pretend that it's a bedroom community circa 1974 and have the speed limit be 35mph on a six lane road with 8 stoplights per 100 yards.

Edmond needs more efficient traffic management but the powers that be don't appear to care. Pothole ridden roads and insane traffic really cut into the QoL in Edmond.

I know the money isn't there for it but I'd like to see a lot stoplights replaced with round abouts. I'd like to see several stoplights removed. I'd like for the larger thoroughfares to have a speed limit of 45. I'd like to see some of the roads redesigned to encourage slower driving rather than just sticking up a speed limit sign of 25 on a 4 or 5 lane road and expecting people to not drive fast.

I'm mayor Goldie Traxx and progress is my middle name.

onthestrip
07-31-2024, 03:10 PM
It is a big need. And as someone up thread pointed out, Edmond continues to grow. So streets get widened but city of Edmond wants to continue to pretend that it's a bedroom community circa 1974 and have the speed limit be 35mph on a six lane road with 8 stoplights per 100 yards.

Edmond needs more efficient traffic management but the powers that be don't appear to care. Pothole ridden roads and insane traffic really cut into the QoL in Edmond.

I know the money isn't there for it but I'd like to see a lot stoplights replaced with round abouts. I'd like to see several stoplights removed. I'd like for the larger thoroughfares to have a speed limit of 45. I'd like to see some of the roads redesigned to encourage slower driving rather than just sticking up a speed limit sign of 25 on a 4 or 5 lane road and expecting people to not drive fast.

I'm mayor Goldie Traxx and progress is my middle name.

Traffic would be immensely better if every non-arterial road intersection was a round about rather than light. And even some of the lesser used arterial road intersections could have roundabouts.

Plutonic Panda
08-01-2024, 07:53 PM
An article from NonDoc: https://nondoc.com/2024/07/30/what-edmond-go-bonds-could-cost-and-fund/

Plutonic Panda
08-01-2024, 07:58 PM
I think Edmond city limits extend to Pennsylvania along Covell. If they're going to do a bond issue for road improvements, why would they not just finish the east/west thoroughfare all the way?
That was my thought as well as Edmond has long had plans to widen Covell throughout the entire city limits at least to air Depot. I was surprised the only funded segment of Cavell was from I-35 to air depot. Maybe the city still plans on widening Covell with a sales tax as they have long planned to do so. Same thing with Danforth from Coltrane to sooner as part of that intersection project. Although they have they may wait for ODOT’s project which will completely transform and turn into a full interchange(adding missing ramps) later this decade. The Danforth bridge over I 35 will also be rebuilt and widen into four lanes. I haven’t seen the plans, but I expect it to be realigned and straightened.

BoulderSooner
08-02-2024, 08:19 AM
That was my thought as well as Edmond has long had plans to widen Covell throughout the entire city limits at least to air Depot. I was surprised the only funded segment of Cavell was from I-35 to air depot. Maybe the city still plans on widening Covell with a sales tax as they have long planned to do so. Same thing with Danforth from Coltrane to sooner as part of that intersection project. Although they have they may wait for ODOT’s project which will completely transform and turn into a full interchange(adding missing ramps) later this decade. The Danforth bridge over I 35 will also be rebuilt and widen into four lanes. I haven’t seen the plans, but I expect it to be realigned and straightened.

I think that Covell from just east of coltrane to just east of bryant may be already funded?

but either way i agree with you that 2 mile stretch from just east of Coltrane to just east of Broadway should be a high high priority ..

jdross1982
08-02-2024, 09:45 AM
I think that Covell from just east of coltrane to just east of bryant may be already funded?

but either way i agree with you that 2 mile stretch from just east of Coltrane to just east of Broadway should be a high high priority ..

I believe they are going to be funded through their normal sales tax funding.

Plutonic Panda
08-02-2024, 02:38 PM
OK, that’s good news. That frees up additional money for this bond project. I have a feeling it will pass pretty easy.

rte66man
08-04-2024, 06:57 AM
Does "intersection improvements" mean they will fix the gross misalignments? For reference, most section-line intersections aren't aligned so you don't have to swerve in the middle of the intersection to continue through. Kelly/Danforth, Edmond Rd/Kelly, etc.

Plutonic Panda
08-04-2024, 03:33 PM
Does "intersection improvements" mean they will fix the gross misalignments? For reference, most section-line intersections aren't aligned so you don't have to swerve in the middle of the intersection to continue through. Kelly/Danforth, Edmond Rd/Kelly, etc.
I would not count on that. It’s most likely going to be adding turning lanes And reconstruct the pavement with concrete And adding dividers on the medians. I based on what I’ve noticed the past projects they’ve done on intersections in Edmond.

jdross1982
08-04-2024, 08:12 PM
I would not count on that. It’s most likely going to be adding turning lanes And reconstruct the pavement with concrete And adding dividers on the medians. I based on what I’ve noticed the past projects they’ve done on intersections in Edmond.


In the notes for the 2nd and boulevard project, it lays out that currently there is a 20’ offset as drivers pass through the intersection on 2nd. The project states they will remove the offset and acquire additional right of way to accommodate this. Not gonna type it out verbatim but yes they will be addressing it. I will look into the others.

Plutonic Panda
08-04-2024, 08:17 PM
In the notes for the 2nd and boulevard project, it lays out that currently there is a 20’ offset as drivers pass through the intersection on 2nd. The project states they will remove the offset and acquire additional right of way to accommodate this. Not gonna type it out verbatim but yes they will be addressing it. I will look into the others.
Yeah I think I saw the plans you’re talking about. if I recall correctly, it’s going to be a tight intersection. They wanted to do right turn lanes on all sides, but I don’t think they’re gonna be able to do that.

jdross1982
08-04-2024, 08:59 PM
Yeah I think I saw the plans you’re talking about. if I recall correctly, it’s going to be a tight intersection. They wanted to do right turn lanes on all sides, but I don’t think they’re gonna be able to do that.

The links for each or the projects are above in one of my last posts.

While they want turn lanes at each intersection, I believe they are prioritizing fixing the offset. I agree fixing the offset will have a much bigger impact than simply adding a turn lane.

Silvershoes
08-05-2024, 01:20 PM
I think Edmond city limits extend to Pennsylvania along Covell. If they're going to do a bond issue for road improvements, why would they not just finish the east/west thoroughfare all the way?

Maybe they have pushed Edmond City limits further West but I thought Edmond City Limits ended basically halfway between Sante Fe and Western. Anything helps but it is a shame Edmond, Deer Creek and Oklahoma County can't get together and complete Covell all the way to Hwy 74. It is so badly needed.

TheTravellers
08-05-2024, 01:43 PM
Maybe they have pushed Edmond City limits further West but I thought Edmond City Limits ended basically halfway between Sante Fe and Western. Anything helps but it is a shame Edmond, Deer Creek and Oklahoma County can't get together and complete Covell all the way to Hwy 74. It is so badly needed.

maps.google.com says Edmond city limits end at Pennsylvania on Covell.

BoulderSooner
08-05-2024, 02:24 PM
maps.google.com says Edmond city limits end at Pennsylvania on Covell.

this is correct just shy of Penn .. https://gis.edmondok.gov/coemapviewer/

_Cramer_
08-05-2024, 03:24 PM
I would rather see Waterloo widened and become the major thoroughfare to 74. I would actually prefer an interstate spur somewhere over along there, but that will never happen.

BoulderSooner
08-05-2024, 03:33 PM
I would rather see Waterloo widened and become the major thoroughfare to 74. I would actually prefer an interstate spur somewhere over along there, but that will never happen.

both need to happen

Laramie
08-05-2024, 04:47 PM
$231 million proposal, based on the comments above ^ does Edmond have the bond capacity to up the ante to $250 million.

Plutonic Panda
08-05-2024, 07:05 PM
I would rather see Waterloo widened and become the major thoroughfare to 74. I would actually prefer an interstate spur somewhere over along there, but that will never happen.
From what I understand Oklahoma and Logan county are in talks to do just that. I’m not sure what they’re planning, but it’s definitely going to be a widening. They really need to build a 6 Lane Freeway N. of Waterloo connecting to State Highway 74 to I 35.

It would be nice if Waterloo got the Covell Parkway treatment where they would build a median with landscaping and turning lanes. Right now Waterloo Road is no man’s land. The amount of road rage, People just cranked out, And these rich people driving Rolls-Royce’s and high-end Mercedes And range rovers going to these new high-end developments in the mix of all that it’s just complete chaos and I love it. It’s probably one of the most funniest things I’ve seen. My family owns a few properties around Waterloo and they’ve been given notices about possible right away acquisition. But Waterloo is definitely going to be expanded to four lanes. How they will do it I have no clue.

oklip955
08-05-2024, 09:47 PM
And another thing Edmond needs to do is loop the water main east of I 35. The main coming east along Covell broke this afternoon leaving a large area without water. They need to add additional lines from Edmond rd (2nd st) to Covell and loop the water system so that only a small area if any is out of water during a main break.

jdross1982
08-06-2024, 07:48 AM
And another thing Edmond needs to do is loop the water main east of I 35. The main coming east along Covell broke this afternoon leaving a large area without water. They need to add additional lines from Edmond rd (2nd st) to Covell and loop the water system so that only a small area if any is out of water during a main break.

Hoping this is addressed from our massive cost to just have water provided to us along with all the work being done at Arcadia.

oklip955
08-06-2024, 03:59 PM
The reason for widening Covell from I 35 to Air Depot is that at Air Depot Edmond public schools is in the process of building an elementary as well as a middle school. Air Depot south will also need widening due to school traffic.

oklip955
08-06-2024, 04:01 PM
Deer Creek area is part of unincorporated Oklahoma county. The county does not have the money. Their funding is through gas tax money the get from the state and not from county property taxes. I was just told this by the county.

BoulderSooner
08-06-2024, 04:35 PM
Deer Creek area is part of unincorporated Oklahoma county. The county does not have the money. Their funding is through gas tax money the get from the state and not from county property taxes. I was just told this by the county.

the county gets money from the state for road projects as well ..

mugofbeer
08-06-2024, 06:23 PM
both need to happen

^^^^^

Plutonic Panda
08-17-2024, 02:56 AM
Here is the press release from the city: https://www.edmondok.gov/1911/Edmond-on-the-GO

Silvershoes
08-22-2024, 10:50 AM
I wonder why completing the Parkway on Kelly all the way out to Waterloo Road like it is on Kelly from 33rd Street north to Coffee Creek Road isn't on this list? That Parkway from Coffee Creek to Waterloo was supposed to be completed like a decade ago. I think the economic downturn in 08-09' was the reasoning but jeez.....Finish that project.

Hollywood
08-26-2024, 04:52 PM
I wonder why completing the Parkway on Kelly all the way out to Waterloo Road like it is on Kelly from 33rd Street north to Coffee Creek Road isn't on this list? That Parkway from Coffee Creek to Waterloo was supposed to be completed like a decade ago. I think the economic downturn in 08-09' was the reasoning but jeez.....Finish that project.

You would think with the tournaments at Oak Tree, that stretch you mentioned as well as Waterloo and Sorghum Mill would all be on a list somewhere. I'm honestly shocked the Oak Tree residents aren't downright demanding it.

onthestrip
10-02-2024, 10:40 AM
Summary of a meeting to discuss the upcoming GO bond. I assume this gets voted down next month based on the article and what little I've seen from Edmond residents. They want roads fixed, but dont really want to pay extra for them.

https://nondoc.com/2024/09/30/edmond-go-bond-proposal-gets-chilly-reception-at-mitch-park-meeting/

BoulderSooner
10-02-2024, 04:07 PM
S I assume this gets voted down next month

my guess as someone that lives in Edmond is that this will pass fairly easily

Midtowner
10-02-2024, 04:31 PM
my guess as someone that lives in Edmond is that this will pass fairly easily

These things tend to pass by pretty decent margins. There are a lot of very loud anti-tax people, so I thinnk online sentiment doesn't probably match reality.

ChaseDweller
10-03-2024, 10:02 AM
Some folks in my neighborhood are hating on this and sending emails about it to the neighbors. Houses are pretty expensive and the property tax increase would be close to $125 a month for them. They can afford it, but that's a pretty big number for a bond issue. I'll pay it, because I use the trails every week, but it is a lot.

Plutonic Panda
10-03-2024, 10:36 AM
I’m a bit skeptical, but I think this will pass. If this does not pass people in Edmond need to shut the f@ck up about traffic, congestion.

The only other way to stop or limit the growth in traffic congestion would be to establish an urban growth boundary in the city clearly is not doing that by letting sprawl eat up every square inch of the city with these bland cookie cutter strip malls spread throughout. None of that is going to be walkable and I doubt very many people are gonna take the bus.

onthestrip
10-03-2024, 02:25 PM
my guess as someone that lives in Edmond is that this will pass fairly easily


These things tend to pass by pretty decent margins. There are a lot of very loud anti-tax people, so I thinnk online sentiment doesn't probably match reality.

Its not a special election with a low turn out seeing mostly motivated yes voters, its a fairly large tax increase, and the timing in the current economic cycle isnt great for that tax increase. Thats why Im skeptical it will pass.

BoulderSooner
10-03-2024, 02:33 PM
Its not a special election with a low turn out seeing mostly motivated yes voters,

you have that backwards .. no voters for things like this almost always have the motivation ... the more turnout the better chance this has of passing

Zorba
10-04-2024, 10:59 PM
In a FAA class this week and it has fried my mind... thanks for catching that. Would be stoked to see that idea come to fruition. YouTube "The Railyard Rogers" in Rogers, AR and it would be much like that (same designer).

That looks pretty sweet. My daughter loves the ones at The Gathering place. I'll bet there will be no lights in Edmond though.

Zorba
10-04-2024, 11:08 PM
Road improvements are ranked about 1, 2 and 3 in importance to Edmond citizens it seems, and this covers a bunch. WIll be interesting to see if Edmond puts their money where their mouth is because this will increase prop taxes a bit.

I got my ballot in the mail the other day. It doesn't say what the millage increase is on the ballot. Website says 15 mill, which for me is about a 14% increase in property taxes.

As it always is with these things, some of the projects I'm excited about, others not as much. Really I think it shows just how punishing and impractical car infrastructure is for cities to maintain. Also wish it would include more trails and sidewalks/safe crossings to get to parks, other gold plating the soccer complex or Mitch park sports fields in an attempt to attract a few extra tournaments. Really wish it was finishing the trail around Arcadia.

Zorba
10-04-2024, 11:12 PM
It is a big need. And as someone up thread pointed out, Edmond continues to grow. So streets get widened but city of Edmond wants to continue to pretend that it's a bedroom community circa 1974 and have the speed limit be 35mph on a six lane road with 8 stoplights per 100 yards.

Edmond needs more efficient traffic management but the powers that be don't appear to care. Pothole ridden roads and insane traffic really cut into the QoL in Edmond.

I know the money isn't there for it but I'd like to see a lot stoplights replaced with round abouts. I'd like to see several stoplights removed. I'd like for the larger thoroughfares to have a speed limit of 45. I'd like to see some of the roads redesigned to encourage slower driving rather than just sticking up a speed limit sign of 25 on a 4 or 5 lane road and expecting people to not drive fast.

I'm mayor Goldie Traxx and progress is my middle name.

The stops lights are growing like weeds in Edmond. And once they are installed they will never go away. It should be illegal for cities to offer stop light to developers. The way the guidelines work, it requires almost no justification to install a light and a ton of justification to remove one and over the last decade Edmond will put one in for anyone that asks.

progressiveboy
10-05-2024, 12:19 PM
Summary of a meeting to discuss the upcoming GO bond. I assume this gets voted down next month based on the article and what little I've seen from Edmond residents. They want roads fixed, but dont really want to pay extra for them.

https://nondoc.com/2024/09/30/edmond-go-bond-proposal-gets-chilly-reception-at-mitch-park-meeting/ Who will pay for them? if that is the case? Eventually, Edmond will have to step up to the plate if they want quality roads and a livable city. Edmond needs more taxpayers and more high paying jobs to be able to fix their roads and have a great quality of life! It is time for Edmond to grow and not just be a bedroom community.

Richard at Remax
10-05-2024, 12:40 PM
Edmond needs to also not let NIMBYs turn down 90% of anything proposed

Plutonic Panda
10-05-2024, 02:00 PM
Edmond needs to also not let NIMBYs turn down 90% of anything proposed
No offense but projects are rarely turned down in Edmond. Just the ones that are cool and unique like the Shoppes at Spring Creek Expansion and 18 on Fink etc. Apartments are the biggest target. Two apartment projects on the fringes of the city were recently killed due to NIMBYs.

Plutonic Panda
10-05-2024, 02:02 PM
The stops lights are growing like weeds in Edmond. And once they are installed they will never go away. It should be illegal for cities to offer stop light to developers. The way the guidelines work, it requires almost no justification to install a light and a ton of justification to remove one and over the last decade Edmond will put one in for anyone that asks.
They could remove them. Just needs to be a change in leadership. Some traffic lights are good but Edmond has damn near zero sense of functional city planning IMO. Like the new traffic signal near that grocery store on Covell. They could have built an access road to connect with the traffic signal for the YMCA. Would have been more expensive since two new access road would have been needed to be built to achieve what the goal was but Edmond is going Edmond.

Zorba
10-05-2024, 10:42 PM
They could remove them. Just needs to be a change in leadership. Some traffic lights are good but Edmond has damn near zero sense of functional city planning IMO. Like the new traffic signal near that grocery store on Covell. They could have built an access road to connect with the traffic signal for the YMCA. Would have been more expensive since two new access road would have been needed to be built to achieve what the goal was but Edmond is going Edmond.

Yeah, there is absolutely zero need for that light. Maybe for the 30 minutes around school letting out, but that is it. My buddy that does a lot of road/bridge projects around the states talks constantly about how they can't fix roads correctly due to the inability to remove bad traffic lights (and driveways).

onthestrip
10-07-2024, 12:18 PM
Edmond needs to also not let NIMBYs turn down 90% of anything proposed

Im anti-nimby and I too agree that they shouldnt be voting down projects but this is a bit hyperbolic. The focus needs to be on bringing in new retail. Any retail category where the town sees leakage to OKC, they need to focus on bringing that to Edmond to retain and grow the sales taxes.

jdross1982
10-07-2024, 01:22 PM
Im anti-nimby and I too agree that they shouldnt be voting down projects but this is a bit hyperbolic. The focus needs to be on bringing in new retail. Any retail category where the town sees leakage to OKC, they need to focus on bringing that to Edmond to retain and grow the sales taxes.

Which is exactly why I think it is so important for Edmond to develop and grow the retail area around Showbiz. If the rumors are true and Whole Foods is really going in this area, it should be a major catalyst to bringing exactly what you mentioned. If only Target was willing to build a 2nd in Edmond on Covell and Kelly across from Lowes.... lol

Hollywood
10-07-2024, 06:30 PM
Which is exactly why I think it is so important for Edmond to develop and grow the retail area around Showbiz. If the rumors are true and Whole Foods is really going in this area, it should be a major catalyst to bringing exactly what you mentioned. If only Target was willing to build a 2nd in Edmond on Covell and Kelly across from Lowes.... lol

Will be interesting to see what goes in on that corner (SE Covell and Kelly). Was told that out of the entire state, that is the most "desired" location for a Chick Fil A (within the company) but that is not to say they will. Just "desired".