View Full Version : Classen Heights (NW 10th and Classen)



Pete
09-13-2019, 07:45 AM
5-story senior complex planned for key Classen block (https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=656-5-story-senior-complex-planned-for-key-Classen-block)

The Oklahoma City Housing Authority (OCHA) is teaming with a Wisconsin company to develop affordable senior housing and healthcare on a prime intersection near downtown.


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Commonwealth Development Corporation and OCHA have partnered to place a purchase contract on the entire block bounded by NW 10th, Classen Boulevard, West Park Place and Western Avenue.

Plans call for 176 units of affordable independent senior living and 140 adjacent assisted living center on approximately 2 acres.


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The facility would replace the senior living units at The Towers Apartments at NW 9th and Robinson, which OCHA also manages. It has been determined that that facility requires more renovation cost than could be justified.


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Towers Apartments


The two organizations also bid to place a similar complex (https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=36384&page=5&p=1050573#post1050573) on city-owned land at NW 4th and Shartel but lost out to another project led by Ron Bradshaw called 700 West (http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=559-Developer-selector-for-downtown-affordable-housing-project).

Commonwealth is nearing completion of another senior housing project, Dunbar Commons (http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=502-Historic-Dunbar-school-to-be-renovated-into-senior-housing), the redevelopment of the old Dunbar school on the city's northeast side into independent living units.

The proposed facility has been named THRIVE on 10th Senior Campus and low-income seniors would be the focus; rates will be determined by income.

Total development costs are projected to be $60 million and would be funded with private activity bonds issued by the Oklahoma Housing Finance Agency.



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The rezoning application notes the location would provide many advantages for seniors, such as proximity to cultural attractions and public transportation.

Although there will be two separate facilities, they will share a ground-floor podium to include parking, common space for each building including a lobby, kitchen, dining facility and some leasable commercial space. The complex would be 5 levels in total.

There are several buildings on the site that would be demolished, most notably a brick and tile structure constructed in 1929 on the corner of Classen and 10th.


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The land for the senior complex is currently owned by Far Wespen, an East Coast developer which owns property to the immediate south and has also bid to redevelop the old headquarters for Oklahoma City Public Schools. The district is seeking to sell the property and Far Wespen is one of three proposals (https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=36988&page=3&p=1080555#post1080555) now being considered.


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The Downtown Design Review Committee will consider the plans for THRIVE at a September 19th meeting.

jonny d
09-13-2019, 07:54 AM
In before someone bashes this as a bad use of space, using it for seniors.

PhiAlpha
09-13-2019, 08:01 AM
They should definitely build it around the building on the corner but we all know, despite any level of protest, they aren’t going to do that. Here’s to one more cool old building for the wrecking ball.

Pete
09-13-2019, 08:10 AM
They should definitely build it around the building on the corner but we all know, despite any level of protest, they aren’t going to do that. Here’s to one more cool old building for the wrecking ball.

When I originally talked to them about this a few months ago, the plan was to keep that one cool corner building and work around that.

That seems to have changed now.

Richard at Remax
09-13-2019, 08:22 AM
Awesome. There is a huge demand for senior type housing in this city (not nursing homes)

turnpup
09-13-2019, 09:45 AM
What will become of the 9th and Robinson property? That's a prime location, and right on the streetcar route.

David
09-13-2019, 10:06 AM
So is this development the same senior housing project as on the upper left of this rendering?

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Pete
09-13-2019, 10:13 AM
So is this development the same senior housing project as on the upper left of this rendering?

Yes.

Ross MacLochness
09-13-2019, 10:46 AM
Will this new complex have the same number of units or more? Rather, will the number of affordable units stay the same? Will the residents of the current facility be able to move over 1 for 1 without rents going up, or will they be displaced?

Pete
09-13-2019, 11:11 AM
Will this new complex have the same number of units or more? Rather, will the number of affordable units stay the same? Will the residents of the current facility be able to move over 1 for 1 without rents going up, or will they be displaced?

I believe this will have slightly more units and that all the current residents will move at the same rates.

The assisted living facility also means that as needed, people can move from one part of the complex to the other and still keep the relationships with other tenants.

Pete
09-13-2019, 11:12 AM
It also creates a good opportunity to repurpose the building or just the lot at 9th & Robinson.

soonerguru
09-13-2019, 11:51 AM
Applause

HangryHippo
09-13-2019, 12:33 PM
They should definitely build it around the building on the corner but we all know, despite any level of protest, they aren’t going to do that. Here’s to one more cool old building for the wrecking ball.
This. It would be easy save and they should do it. Otherwise, looks good.

David
09-19-2019, 10:15 AM
According to https://twitter.com/OKC_SPAN/status/1174697321432539138 (plus the next ten tweets in the thread) the recommendation to rezone the lot for this was passed by the Downtown Design Review Committee this morning.

Pete
07-15-2020, 02:56 PM
Design plans going for approval next month.

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HangryHippo
07-15-2020, 03:12 PM
Will the “facade saving” be as good as the “rebuilding” of the car wash in Deep Deuce?

BridgeBurner
07-16-2020, 04:41 PM
I don't know how I never noticed where this thread was as it was right by my house.
I (not very seriously) looked into that building on 10th and Classen as a potential cidery a while ago when there was all that other development planned for Classen.
It will be great to have those buildings on 10th and Western gone though they are a blight with tons of uhh, urban campfire damage.

catch22
07-17-2020, 01:05 PM
Will the “facade saving” be as good as the “rebuilding” of the car wash in Deep Deuce?

Lol. "We reused a few of the bricks"

riflesforwatie
07-17-2020, 01:55 PM
It would be nice if they incorporated the facade at NW 10 and Classen into this, but not a huge deal. No matter what, getting this block's current mix of vacant/abandoned/burned out building stock replaced is a huge win. This is a critical connection between Midtown on one side and Metro Park/Classen-Ten-Penn on the other. While I am a fan of this development, it would be even better if they could figure out some way to use this development to get Classen reduced from 6 through lanes to 4 between about NW 16 and Sheridan! I know there's a lot of pedestrian activity around the current OCHA facility at NW 10 and Robinson, so maybe there's a chance...

khook
07-17-2020, 10:08 PM
re read the posting they are including the facade of the building at the intersection of 10th and clasesen shown on the elevation drawings also

riflesforwatie
09-15-2020, 10:53 PM
A pretty rough-looking house just north of this development at 1013 W Park Pl is getting what appears to be a substantial renovation. The house in question is owned by Far Wespen, like the block to the south on which Thrive is to be built. Far Wespen also has all the land between Classen and Western down to NW 9, as well as several of the lots between Park and NW 12, including one additional house -- everything else is vacant/empty. Far Wespen wasn't selected for the redevelopment of the old OKC Public Schools headquarters so any ideas about what their plans are for the rest of the area?

Pete
11-13-2020, 04:34 PM
This project is moving forward.

Seeking approval to demolish the structures and get final certification on the new build.

Rover
11-13-2020, 04:40 PM
For all we've been through the last few months, it sure feels like there is momentum again for downtown.

Pete
11-13-2020, 04:43 PM
Boulevard Place is also seeking final approval and that should start soon.

Hopefully the same for the project at 4th & EKG.


Those, along with BancFirst and First National -- not to mention the thousands of state employees moving into the old SandRidge Tower -- downtown has a lot going on. That's not even considering the new Omni and convention center will soon be opening.

Pete
08-25-2021, 10:32 AM
Building permit applications were just filed for this project.

They still plan to keep the facades of the older structures on the corner of NW 10th & Classen (the rest of the structures will be completely razed) and the design and layout will remain as previously posted.

The rendering is looking north.

Should be starting soon. To keep track, that means this project, 700 West, Boulevard Place and Alley's End should soon be all under construction.

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Laramie
08-25-2021, 11:41 AM
Excited seeing all the housing and mixed-use developments (with building permits) being planned for OKC. Don't know how many residents have relocated here from within or out-of-state.

Just feel the housing 'boom' is ripe; therefore we need to plan. OKC being one of 14 cities in 2020 to exceed 100,000 inner city population growth is an alarm indicator we need to be ready.

Manageable growth; don't want see a big influx of people in a city where there's a housing shortage. Thankful we have room for housing complexes in the 3 - 5 story range and not the huge 20-30 level high rise towers that could succumb to fire or flaws that threaten the health and safety of residents.

Pete
01-25-2022, 11:21 AM
Demolition permits have been filed for this block. You can see they have started some preliminary work.

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Laramie
01-25-2022, 12:03 PM
Top pic (Corner N.W. 10th & Classen), that's the old Army Surplus store that was last occupied by one of the thrift & antique stores. We're losing lots of older structures that probably could have been saved. Would have been a good location for card holders of Medical Marijuana.

Surprised that building isn't on some kind of historic register or does it qualify.

G.Walker
01-25-2022, 12:59 PM
Nice, was wondering when this would kick off, been a minute.

ChrisHayes
01-26-2022, 11:20 AM
Now, if we could just get development on Classen all the way to Main. Fill in all that empty land and get rid of the old, and unusable buildings

soonerguru
01-26-2022, 01:50 PM
Classen should be OKC's Sunset Boulevard.

G.Walker
01-26-2022, 03:33 PM
Classen has came along way over the last 15 years. I used to have an office across from that Homeland on 18th & Classen from 2005-2009.

That whole area from 23rd down to Main St, was very dilapidated, now things are a lot better, but still more work to be done.

GoGators
01-26-2022, 09:14 PM
Classen has come a very long way and could become a beautiful urban boulevard. Projects like this will help that slowly become more of a reality. That’s why it is so baffling that just 3 blocks north of this project is another proposed development on Classen that would be much more appropriate for a pad site on an interstate service road.

soonerguru
01-26-2022, 11:01 PM
Classen has come a very long way and could become a beautiful urban boulevard. Projects like this will help that slowly become more of a reality. That’s why it is so baffling that just 3 blocks north of this project is another proposed development on Classen that would be much more appropriate for a pad site on an interstate service road.

OKC gotta OKC baby.

LocoAko
01-27-2022, 08:29 AM
Classen has come a very long way and could become a beautiful urban boulevard. Projects like this will help that slowly become more of a reality. That’s why it is so baffling that just 3 blocks north of this project is another proposed development on Classen that would be much more appropriate for a pad site on an interstate service road.

Yeah, that OnCue in that spot is just downright depressing.

I've noticed lots of the empty grassy lots along Classen south of 13th are for sale. It's possible they've been that way for a long time and I've just never noticed.

G.Walker
06-13-2022, 01:30 PM
Bump, any updates on this project? Haven't been to this area in a while, so not sure we have any movement here?

Pete
06-13-2022, 01:40 PM
I go by there every few days and still nothing.

There must be some sort of hold-up with the demolition.

soonerguru
06-13-2022, 10:23 PM
Excited to see this get started. I have an in-law who recently lost a spouse who would make a good candidate to live in this community.

LocoAko
01-10-2023, 09:46 PM
Any update on this project? Site still looks the same as it did a year ago.

Pete
01-11-2023, 08:00 AM
No, for some reason they filed all the building and demolition permits and then nothing has happened.

Oski
01-11-2023, 09:44 AM
I guess nothing will happen anytime soon because the land is up for sale recently:

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/NW-10th-and-Classen-Western-Oklahoma-City-OK/27470468/

warreng88
07-25-2024, 03:43 PM
I saw on zillow a listing for an area called Classen heights. The website looks like it would be bound by NW 10th, Park Place, Classen and Western.

https://www.classenheights.com/

Below is the "proposed" layout of the area:

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Didn't know if anyone else knew anything about this. The whole area on OK County is still owned by Naples SV Apartments LLC out of Dallas that purchased it in 2020, so it doesn't look like anything has changed hands yet.

3nglnd
07-25-2024, 04:28 PM
No idea, but I certainly would not mind this replacing what's currently there

Pete
07-25-2024, 04:30 PM
Thank you for posting this.

I added the street names to a rendering. Looks like they plan to keep the historic building on the corner.

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Anonymous.
07-25-2024, 05:14 PM
Losing those mature trees sucks, but a much needed development in this area. The fact there is live listings though, makes it seem like they need solid pre-orders before dirt turns.

ChrisHayes
07-25-2024, 06:41 PM
Hopefully this would be just the start of redevelopment all the way down Classen and Western to Main St.

Oski
07-26-2024, 08:49 AM
Good luck with the sale!

$429 per sq ft
https://www.redfin.com/OK/Oklahoma-City/1007-NW-10th-St-73106/unit-138/home/191796348

$374 per sq ft
https://www.redfin.com/OK/Oklahoma-City/1007-NW-10th-St-73106/unit-153/home/191796299

I wouldn't pay that much for these bland, "Ctrl C + Ctrl V" designs.

warreng88
07-26-2024, 09:54 AM
Good luck with the sale!

$429 per sq ft
https://www.redfin.com/OK/Oklahoma-City/1007-NW-10th-St-73106/unit-138/home/191796348

$374 per sq ft
https://www.redfin.com/OK/Oklahoma-City/1007-NW-10th-St-73106/unit-153/home/191796299

I wouldn't pay that much for these bland, "Ctrl C + Ctrl V" designs.

But what if you had a view of the 7-11?

OkieBerto
07-26-2024, 10:49 AM
I would like to see the research they did to think those prices make sense with no amenities at all.

Oski
07-26-2024, 11:12 AM
I would like to see the research they did to think those prices make sense with no amenities at all.

I hope they'll conduct thorough due diligence and build something that can sell and be aesthetically pleasing, rather than just putting up buildings that sit vacant and waste valuable land like what happened with Robert Square.

Pete
07-26-2024, 11:26 AM
They haven't even bought the land yet, so they may be trying to drum up pre-sales before they commit.

BoulderSooner
07-26-2024, 11:36 AM
They haven't even bought the land yet, so they may be trying to drum up pre-sales before they commit.

at those prices i wish them good luck ....

OkieBerto
07-26-2024, 01:24 PM
I hope they'll conduct thorough due diligence and build something that can sell and be aesthetically pleasing, rather than just putting up buildings that sit vacant and waste valuable land like what happened with Robert Square.

They probably saw the homes below and thought, "We can do that!"

19031

Grant
07-26-2024, 01:45 PM
This block probably isn't well-suited to single-family housing. Apartments would work well, but I'm not sure who's going to pay top dollar for a single-family home fronting two major thoroughfares and a less-than-optimal gas station.

Okie1234
07-28-2024, 10:46 AM
They probably saw the homes below and thought, "We can do that!"

19031

Is this the new jail project?

Mississippi Blues
07-28-2024, 06:20 PM
Is this the new jail project?

They remind me of the homes in Despicable Me that all look the same around Gru’s dark, villainous house.