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Urbanized 11-12-2024, 08:59 AM Agree, BV isn’t going anywhere (yet). This team has been decimated by injuries, and the OC/QB coaching decisions turned out to be poor. OU knows this guy (Venabkes) is elite as it gets as a defensive mind (made very important by the move to the SEC). He needs a fire OC hire, a renewed focus on QB development, and some solid work in the portal. These things are all very doable, and he’ll get an opportunity to make those things happen. Failing in those areas next year, however, and I think his days will be numbered.
By the way, one thing that is not talked about here often is the loss of Cale Gundy from a RECRUITING standpoint. I see people posting about him here (or mostly on other social) like was great offensive scheme guy who should be considered as OC. Not to knock his coaching - I think he was a pretty brilliant position coach for running backs - but I think his real value was that he was where the rubber met the road in recruiting for YEARS, and it has probably taken the program a while to absorb that loss, especially on the offensive side of the ball.
warreng88 11-13-2024, 12:34 PM They need to look at the top offenses in the country, find a small school and pluck their OC. Maybe Jason Beck from UNM or Hinshaw from UCF. You then pitch that it is a stepping stone to being a head coach in college football or OC in the NFL. Give us three years and you will have another job waiting for you somewhere else. Or, as long as you are putting up good numbers, stay as long as you want.
That's what they did with Riley. OC at East Carolina University, OC at OU.
Bill Robertson 11-13-2024, 01:14 PM They need to look at the top offenses in the country, find a small school and pluck their OC. Maybe Jason Beck from UNM or Hinshaw from UCF. You then pitch that it is a stepping stone to being a head coach in college football or OC in the NFL. Give us three years and you will have another job waiting for you somewhere else. Or, as long as you are putting up good numbers, stay as long as you want.
That's what they did with Riley. OC at East Carolina University, OC at OU.Perfectly on point!!! A proven small small school OC. And one that fits the offensive scheme that we want to see going forward is the best bet.
soonergolfer 11-13-2024, 06:17 PM They need to look at the top offenses in the country, find a small school and pluck their OC. Maybe Jason Beck from UNM or Hinshaw from UCF. You then pitch that it is a stepping stone to being a head coach in college football or OC in the NFL. Give us three years and you will have another job waiting for you somewhere else. Or, as long as you are putting up good numbers, stay as long as you want.
That's what they did with Riley. OC at East Carolina University, OC at OU.
The biggest difference is that Stoops was never on the hot seat like BV currently is. That may be the biggest hurdle, trying to convince a top tier national OC to hitch his wagon to a coach that will most likely be canned if they go 6-6 in 2025.
Also, Lincoln came in with a roster of Baker (luckily for him), Joe Mixon, Perine, Sterling, Westbrook, Mark Andrews and probably 3/4 o-lineman that played in the NFL. Without a lot of portal wins, it will be tough to even sniff that kind of success.
Bill Robertson 11-13-2024, 08:48 PM The biggest difference is that Stoops was never on the hot seat like BV currently is. That may be the biggest hurdle, trying to convince a top tier national OC to hitch his wagon to a coach that will most likely be canned if they go 6-6 in 2025.
Also, Lincoln came in with a roster of Baker (luckily for him), Joe Mixon, Perine, Sterling, Westbrook, Mark Andrews and probably 3/4 o-lineman that played in the NFL. Without a lot of portal wins, it will be tough to even sniff that kind of success.
The only people that think BV is on the hot seat this year type on forums or call sports radio shows. If next season is a marked improvement he's fine. If we change HC every two years we are going to perpetually be bad.
We need to go after a small school OC. The earlier suggestion of Oregon's OC is a perfect example of people living in LaLa land. Not ever going to happen. Nor is getting a top 20 HC to bail on their current job unless we can offer way more money which we can't do until we are fully SEC funded. OU has had a bad season that was pretty was pretty much predicted before the season started. Getting a top five OC to bail on their job to come to OU is not happening. Not until OU is fully funded with SEC money. All of you doom and gloom prognosticators need to slow down. This season is nothing like the Schnellenberger/Blake years. Those seasons were we suck and there's no light at the end of the tunnel. We're a good portal class from being very good.
The major donors everyone talks about need to step up next year and get the players we need. As the former head coach of my most hated team quotes often "It's more about the Jimmies and Joes than about the Xs and Os.
I could go for pages about how our opponents defenses have lined up to take advantage of our horrible offensive line. Especially the game that Sexton got hurt. The other defense changed sets the next play because they didn't have the worry about our one good lineman.
soonergolfer 11-13-2024, 11:26 PM The only people that think BV is on the hot seat this year type on forums or call sports radio shows. If next season is a marked improvement he's fine. If we change HC every two years we are going to perpetually be bad.
We need to go after a small school OC. The earlier suggestion of Oregon's OC is a perfect example of people living in LaLa land. Not ever going to happen. Nor is getting a top 20 HC to bail on their current job unless we can offer way more money which we can't do until we are fully SEC funded. OU has had a bad season that was pretty was pretty much predicted before the season started. Getting a top five OC to bail on their job to come to OU is not happening. Not until OU is fully funded with SEC money. All of you doom and gloom prognosticators need to slow down. This season is nothing like the Schnellenberger/Blake years. Those seasons were we suck and there's no light at the end of the tunnel. We're a good portal class from being very good.
The major donors everyone talks about need to step up next year and get the players we need. As the former head coach of my most hated team quotes often "It's more about the Jimmies and Joes than about the Xs and Os.
I could go for pages about how our opponents defenses have lined up to take advantage of our horrible offensive line. Especially the game that Sexton got hurt. The other defense changed sets the next play because they didn't have the worry about our one good lineman.
I am glad that the new acceptable standard is being slightly better than the John Blake and Schnelly years. Very high bar for a blue blood program. Without any contributors leaving the program, we need a difference maker qb, 2 wrs, 1 good rb, 2 tight ends and probably 3 o lineman that can start or compete for a spot.
OKCRealtor 11-14-2024, 07:29 AM We don’t have any idea what the roster will look like next year at this point either. If we get blown out these last 2 games as expected no telling who wants to decommit or hit the portal after this nightmare season. From my understanding we simply don’t have the money to pay players like some of the other schools. Given how bad a decision BV made to stay in house with Litrell & looking at current roster it’s hard to imagine we are competitive next year without a lot of portal success which is tough if you can’t write the big checks.
bamarsha 11-14-2024, 08:00 AM We don’t have any idea what the roster will look like next year at this point either. If we get blown out these last 2 games as expected no telling who wants to decommit or hit the portal after this nightmare season. From my understanding we simply don’t have the money to pay players like some of the other schools. Given how bad a decision BV made to stay in house with Litrell & looking at current roster it’s hard to imagine we are competitive next year without a lot of portal success which is tough if you can’t write the big checks.
And if we do something stupid like fire BV this year, we simply won't have the money to go shopping in the portal. Put that money to good use for a new OC and players in the portal, not a buyout!
OKCRealtor 11-14-2024, 08:36 AM And if we do something stupid like fire BV this year, we simply won't have the money to go shopping in the portal. Put that money to good use for a new OC and players in the portal, not a buyout!
I agree as far as next year goes vs totally blowing it up after this year. He's going to get one more shot in all likelihood but barring a home run hire or some serious change on offense which BV may just not be able to affect with his skill set the future isn't bright even with him. I'm not saying things can't turn around or it's doom and gloom but there's the very real possibility that BV just isn't the guy. As much as I like him and want him to succeed we are going in a very bad direction heading into his 4th year now even if we retain all these guys + recruiting class.
Bill Robertson 11-14-2024, 09:01 AM Hiring an OC and paying portal players to get them to come here are two different things. The school pays coaches. Unless it's done under the table schools don't pay NIL money. Supporters or collectives of supporters pay NIL money.
Bill Robertson 11-14-2024, 09:10 AM I am glad that the new acceptable standard is being slightly better than the John Blake and Schnelly years. Very high bar for a blue blood program. Without any contributors leaving the program, we need a difference maker qb, 2 wrs, 1 good rb, 2 tight ends and probably 3 o lineman that can start or compete for a spot.The bar is where it's always been. At least conference championships. Competing for national championships. Your list of what we need is right on. A handful of players. And a really good OC. The list of what the mid-90s teams needed were way longer than that. And it was that way for years.
warreng88 11-14-2024, 09:11 AM The biggest difference is that Stoops was never on the hot seat like BV currently is. That may be the biggest hurdle, trying to convince a top tier national OC to hitch his wagon to a coach that will most likely be canned if they go 6-6 in 2025.
Also, Lincoln came in with a roster of Baker (luckily for him), Joe Mixon, Perine, Sterling, Westbrook, Mark Andrews and probably 3/4 o-lineman that played in the NFL. Without a lot of portal wins, it will be tough to even sniff that kind of success.
To be fair, if we were 100% healthy, we would have Gibson, Anderson, Anthony, Farooq and Burks at WR. Also, we would have Hatchett, Sexton, Taylor, Bates and Tarquin at OL. I am not saying they are the same as the group above, but a solid Oline give bigger holes to RB's and more time to make better decisions on throws.
Bill Robertson 11-14-2024, 09:38 AM To be fair, if we were 100% healthy, we would have Gibson, Anderson, Anthony, Farooq and Burks at WR. Also, we would have Hatchett, Sexton, Taylor, Bates and Tarquin at OL. I am not saying they are the same as the group above, but a solid Oline give bigger holes to RB's and more time to make better decisions on throws.
Exactly!!!
djohn 11-14-2024, 12:51 PM We don’t have any idea what the roster will look like next year at this point either. If we get blown out these last 2 games as expected no telling who wants to decommit or hit the portal after this nightmare season. From my understanding we simply don’t have the money to pay players like some of the other schools. Given how bad a decision BV made to stay in house with Litrell & looking at current roster it’s hard to imagine we are competitive next year without a lot of portal success which is tough if you can’t write the big checks.
I know we were slow to the NIL game, but I *thought* I had heard that we stepped it up some and are now at least competitive.
bamarsha 11-14-2024, 01:08 PM Hiring an OC and paying portal players to get them to come here are two different things. The school pays coaches. Unless it's done under the table schools don't pay NIL money. Supporters or collectives of supporters pay NIL money.
Where does buyout money come from? Donors.
Where does coach money come from? Donors (in part).
Where does NIL money come from? Donors.
See the trend?
Bill Robertson 11-14-2024, 02:22 PM Where does buyout money come from? Donors.
Where does coach money come from? Donors (in part).
Where does NIL money come from? Donors.
See the trend?Do you have access to the accounting of any university to show how much donors pay for coaching costs vs how much the school pays out of non-donor funds?
Also, I just found this in an article in the Austin American-Statesman.
"Long gone are the days when money just came from booster donations and sales from tickets and merchandise.
Flip on what seems like any channel on a Fall Saturday, and you're likely to catch a college football game.
Conferences split the money from TV revenue evenly among member schools.
Last year, Big Ten schools made $54.3 million, SEC schools made $45.5 million, and Pac-12 schools made $33.6 million".
So that's $45.5 million that OU isn't getting this year because of the deal they made with the SEC. After next year there will be a lot more money available.
bamarsha 11-14-2024, 04:16 PM Do you have access to the accounting of any university to show how much donors pay for coaching costs vs how much the school pays out of non-donor funds?
Also, I just found this in an article in the Austin American-Statesman.
"Long gone are the days when money just came from booster donations and sales from tickets and merchandise.
Flip on what seems like any channel on a Fall Saturday, and you're likely to catch a college football game.
Conferences split the money from TV revenue evenly among member schools.
Last year, Big Ten schools made $54.3 million, SEC schools made $45.5 million, and Pac-12 schools made $33.6 million".
So that's $45.5 million that OU isn't getting this year because of the deal they made with the SEC. After next year there will be a lot more money available.
Not sure what you point is... Are you saying universities don't take money from donors for athletics? You may want to look that one up.
kukblue1 11-14-2024, 04:26 PM I am glad that the new acceptable standard is being slightly better than the John Blake and Schnelly years. Very high bar for a blue blood program. Without any contributors leaving the program, we need a difference maker qb, 2 wrs, 1 good rb, 2 tight ends and probably 3 o lineman that can start or compete for a spot.
Truth ! The landscape of college football has changed big time. You can't compare the past too now. Take Georgia they currently not in the playoffs. A new OC and a few good players won't cut it. You don't think Georgia doesn't have all that? IF anything don't play anyone. Be the Indiana and Byu of the world. IU hasn't played a conference team with a winning record. In the SEC that is impossible not too play some good teams. Bama has played 5 teams in the top 25. Georgia has played at Texas, at Alabama, At Mississippi and are currently out while Indiana best win is?
Bill Robertson 11-14-2024, 04:38 PM Not sure what you point is... Are you saying universities don't take money from donors for athletics? You may want to look that one up.
My point, which I backed up with a quote from someone who covers college sports for a living, is that you're wrong about donor money being substantially used for paying coaches. Of course schools take money from donors. But unless you can find substantial evidence that it goes towards coaches salaries and buyouts I'm going to go with that statement of an expert.
PhiAlpha 11-14-2024, 05:13 PM I know we were slow to the NIL game, but I *thought* I had heard that we stepped it up some and are now at least competitive.
We did but unfortunately with OL guys there’s a lag in the benefits being realized at the recruiting level. The OL class last year was good and if it stays together, even better this year…those guys just usually take 1-2 seasons to develop. We’ve had decent success with linemen in the portal until this year and missed on a few big names and whiffed on the guys we brought in. Got to hope someone like EPL is ready to go next year.
Bill Robertson 11-14-2024, 05:20 PM We did but unfortunately with OL guys there’s a lag in the benefits being realized at the recruiting level. The OL class last year was good and if it stays together, even better this year…those guys just usually take 1-2 seasons to develop. We’ve had decent success with linemen in the portal until this year and missed on a few big names and whiffed on the guys we brought in. Got to hope someone like EPL is ready to go next year.The o-line next year should be much better. It couldn't be much worse. I think all the doom & gloomers would be shocked at how good this OU team would have been with an o-line like Texas's. No other changes and this offense would have been much better.
bamarsha 11-15-2024, 08:19 AM My point, which I backed up with a quote from someone who covers college sports for a living, is that you're wrong about donor money being substantially used for paying coaches. Of course schools take money from donors. But unless you can find substantial evidence that it goes towards coaches salaries and buyouts I'm going to go with that statement of an expert.
Didn't realize I had to cite sources for this, thought it was common knowledge... guess not. Let me know if you need more sources. To summarize:
The money to buy out a college coach's contract primarily comes from a university's athletic department budget, which is largely funded by donations from wealthy "boosters," television rights deals, ticket sales, and conference payouts, meaning the money essentially comes from a combination of private donors and revenue generated by the athletic program itself.
https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2022/college-football-coaches-buyout-1234689739/
https://www.brickergraydon.com/insights/publications/College-Coaching-Contracts-and-the-Future-of-Buyouts#:~:text=Take%20donors%2C%20for%20instance. ,are%20asking%20donors%20for%20more.
https://dailytrojan.com/2022/10/11/money-talks-how-do-schools-afford-financing-coaching-buyouts/#:~:text=Since%20coaches%20know%20that%20the%20sch ools%20can,through%20boosters%2C%20buyout%20levels %20are%20greatly%20increasing.&text=On%20the%20other%20hand%2C%20since%20coaches% 20know,get%20fired%2C%20putting%20us%20at%20a%20st andstill.
Bill Robertson 11-15-2024, 08:53 AM Didn't realize I had to cite sources for this, thought it was common knowledge... guess not. Let me know if you need more sources. To summarize:
The money to buy out a college coach's contract primarily comes from a university's athletic department budget, which is largely funded by donations from wealthy "boosters," television rights deals, ticket sales, and conference payouts, meaning the money essentially comes from a combination of private donors and revenue generated by the athletic program itself.
https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2022/college-football-coaches-buyout-1234689739/
https://www.brickergraydon.com/insights/publications/College-Coaching-Contracts-and-the-Future-of-Buyouts#:~:text=Take%20donors%2C%20for%20instance. ,are%20asking%20donors%20for%20more.
https://dailytrojan.com/2022/10/11/money-talks-how-do-schools-afford-financing-coaching-buyouts/#:~:text=Since%20coaches%20know%20that%20the%20sch ools%20can,through%20boosters%2C%20buyout%20levels %20are%20greatly%20increasing.&text=On%20the%20other%20hand%2C%20since%20coaches% 20know,get%20fired%2C%20putting%20us%20at%20a%20st andstill.
Ok. You can come up with articles backing your point. I can come up with a good number of articles backing my position. Let's call it a draw and move on to more important things.
MagzOK 11-15-2024, 07:42 PM Ok. You can come up with articles backing your point. I can come up with a good number of articles backing my position. Let's call it a draw and move on to more important things.
You're right, BR. The Sports Animal was talking about this very thing yesterday and they specifically said that they've been talking to people within the program and that if they wanted to buy out BV's contract they could move money around to make it happen. These are OU insiders and I'd take them at their word.
bamarsha 11-18-2024, 09:01 AM You're right, BR. The Sports Animal was talking about this very thing yesterday and they specifically said that they've been talking to people within the program and that if they wanted to buy out BV's contract they could move money around to make it happen. These are OU insiders and I'd take them at their word.
And where do you think that money comes from? Ticket sales only? Wrong. TV contract only? Wrong. It comes from ticket sales, TV deals, donors, and several other sources. Once that money is in the athletic budget, they can move it pretty much wherever they want, so at least that much is true.
MagzOK 11-18-2024, 09:31 AM And where do you think that money comes from? Ticket sales only? Wrong. TV contract only? Wrong. It comes from ticket sales, TV deals, donors, and several other sources. Once that money is in the athletic budget, they can move it pretty much wherever they want, so at least that much is true.
Well, Duh. I'm just commenting that OU could buy out BV's contact if they so desired.
bamarsha 11-18-2024, 09:37 AM Well, Duh. I'm just commenting that OU could buy out BV's contact if they so desired.
Oh, the way you worded it, I thought you were agreeing with BR that donor's money never goes to coaches in any form or fashion.
Bill Robertson 11-18-2024, 09:52 AM Oh, the way you worded it, I thought you were agreeing with BR that donor's money never goes to coaches in any form or fashion.If you took what I said that way I didn't word well. I didn't mean no donor money pays coaches. I meant that it's not the way coaches get paid.
bamarsha 11-18-2024, 10:13 AM If you took what I said that way I didn't word well. I didn't mean no donor money pays coaches. I meant that it's not the way coaches get paid.
Well, of course donors do not pay the coach's salary or buy-out directly. But a good chuck of buy-outs (especially the massive ones) typically come from donors (or gets moved from something else that suffers for it), via the athletic budget.
BoulderSooner 11-18-2024, 10:35 AM Well, of course donors do not pay the coach's salary or buy-out directly. .
in lots of cases the BMD (Big money donors) pledge money to the school DIRECTLY to pay for coaches salary's
bamarsha 11-18-2024, 12:41 PM in lots of cases the BMD (Big money donors) pledge money to the school DIRECTLY to pay for coaches salary's
Exactly, same with coach's buy-outs. For that matter, same with new/renovated stadium costs. One of the more recent big examples at OU was Love's donating to the athletic department for the singular purpose of a softball stadium. It didn't cover everything, but helped significantly (probably wouldn't have been built without the donation).
Bill Robertson 11-23-2024, 08:06 PM There was a lot of talk on both major sports radio stations just hoping this game wasn't a blowout by halftime. Well, it's not!
Let's have some faith in Sooner Magic!
OKCRealtor 11-23-2024, 09:53 PM Boomer! Haven’t gotten many of those this year, what a game from the defense!
Glad to spoil Bama’s playoff hopes and finally get a quality win. Hopefully they can build on this to end the year and salvage the season.
Bill Robertson 11-23-2024, 10:00 PM Sooner! This team was a couple o-linemen and a couple wide receivers from being very good.
Laramie 11-24-2024, 12:02 PM Instant Reaction: Eddie & George recap a night to remember in Norman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajuYSlEbnCE
Visited a number of sites, the outrage and harsh reaction Alabama fans are feeling after their lost to the 5-5
Sooners--doesn't merit being distributed. Didn't feel necessary to post any of those comments because the language directed toward the Alabama players and especially the coaching staff is full of cursing and inappropriate language that IMO the Bama coaching staff and players don't deserve.
Great win; hope this puts a lid on all the talk about firing BV. You can clearly see where the program is on track despite the team's disappointing record. Hope there's a carry-over to our upcoming game at LSU in Baton Rouge. Top off this Thanksgiving meal with a win over the Bayou Bengals.
BV it's BOWL TIME BABY!
BG918 11-24-2024, 01:00 PM Alabama fans when they lose are downright scary i.e talking about organizing lynchings for black players, etc. The Old South mentality is still very much in place. Makes OU fans, who can be insufferable, look tame in comparison.
April in the Plaza 11-24-2024, 04:43 PM was anyone else surprised that the students rushed the field? historically elite programs usually don't rush fields (or courts, in the basketball context), even during their down years.
Laramie 11-24-2024, 05:28 PM was anyone else surprised that the students rushed the field? historically elite programs usually don't rush fields (or courts, in the basketball context), even during their down years.
I had so many surprises it took me an hour to fall asleep. Recall when the Sooners beat 'Bama' in the 2014 Sugar Bowl; Eric Striker had to bring down Derrick Henry in that David vs. Goliath battle.
It renewed faith in the team that they can compete in the SEC; it will be difficult to go thru a conference like the SEC undefeated.
Sooner fans will need to be patient, just a matter of time before we have a deuterating defense that gives our Sooners an edge.
Fans rushing the field has been happening more and more this year in College Football. The end of the ASU/BYU game was a complete cluster **** last night when the fans rushed the field and were even taking down the goal posts with one second remaining. And BYU came close to showing that that one second was important. And once they got the field cleared to finish the game they rushed the field again. Want to put a stop to it start making the hosting school forfeit the game if it happens. It's just a matter of time before someone gets trampled and seriously hurt in one of those stampedes.
And as far as the win last night. It is one game against a really good program that was flat and probably didn't take the game as serious as they should have considering what OU has shown this year. And it probably guaranteed Brent will be back for at least one more year. X does look promising.
Urbanized 11-24-2024, 06:44 PM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
They’re doing it for the ‘gram (or more likely the TikTok). Stinks; blue blood schools shouldn’t be rushing the field when they beat a somewhat struggling two-loss team associated with a program against whom they have an overall winning record. Even when they (OU) themselves have been struggling. Sorry to be a wet blanket, but it’s a bad look.
The last time OU rushed the field was vs Nebraska in 2000. At the time OU had been down FOR YEARS, was in the midst of a stunning “Red October” (63-14 vs UT, plus somewhat unexpected wins vs A&M at College Station and a damn good and number 2 ranked K-State team in Manhattan). As they entered Nebraska week, OU was ranked number 2, essentially dominated the number 1 Huskers, and the win locked in a trip to the Big 12 title game and a great shot at playing for a national championship (which in fact happened).
Last night was an incredible win - and could prove to be a real turning point for the program - but it was LIGHT YEARS away from what transpired in 2000.
I honestly have no idea when was the last time prior to 2000 that the field had been rushed; maybe Switzer era (though I don’t recall one) or maybe Bud era, but I also wouldn’t be shocked if you told me 2000 was the one and only time it had happened before last night.
Fans from traditional powers should act like a win on their home field against a two loss team - not even in the top five - is EXPECTED, not the biggest win ever for their school. Last night was a pretty low bar if you ask me.
I know as well as anyone that OU has been down this season and honestly for the past couple, but dang. Act like you’ve been there before. Because you HAVE.
Per Google: Yes, schools can be fined when students rush the field, particularly in college athletics, with the most notable example being the Southeastern Conference (SEC) which imposes significant fines for field storming incidents, with penalties increasing for repeat offenses; a first offense usually results in a $100,000 fine, while subsequent offenses can reach up to $500,000.
Urbanized 11-24-2024, 07:06 PM It’s already been announced by the SEC that OU will be paying a $100K fine. The twist is that it goes to the opponent, so in this case Alabama, like THEY need the money. There was some speculation that it would be $200K, as there were actually TWO field rushes last night; the field had to be cleared and after the last snap they rushed the field again. But I believe OU only got rung up for the first count.
Fine is up to $200K it looks like. https://okcfox.com/news/local/sec-fines-university-of-oklahoma-200000-for-fans-rushing-field-during-saturdays-game-southeastern-conference-alabama-football-loss-upset-storm-the-field-fined-payment-early-access
mugofbeer 11-24-2024, 11:26 PM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
They’re doing it for the ‘gram (or more likely the TikTok). Stinks; blue blood schools shouldn’t be rushing the field when they beat a somewhat struggling two-loss team associated with a program against whom they have an overall winning record. Even when they (OU) themselves have been struggling. Sorry to be a wet blanket, but it’s a bad look.
The last time OU rushed the field was vs Nebraska in 2000. At the time OU had been down FOR YEARS, was in the midst of a stunning “Red October” (63-14 vs UT, plus somewhat unexpected wins vs A&M at College Station and a damn good and number 2 ranked K-State team in Manhattan). As they entered Nebraska week, OU was ranked number 2, essentially dominated the number 1 Huskers, and the win locked in a trip to the Big 12 title game and a great shot at playing for a national championship (which in fact happened).
Last night was an incredible win - and could prove to be a real turning point for the program - but it was LIGHT YEARS away from what transpired in 2000.
I honestly have no idea when was the last time prior to 2000 that the field had been rushed; maybe Switzer era (though I don’t recall one) or maybe Bud era, but I also wouldn’t be shocked if you told me 2000 was the one and only time it had happened before last night.
Fans from traditional powers should act like a win on their home field against a two loss team - not even in the top five - is EXPECTED, not the biggest win ever for their school. Last night was a pretty low bar if you ask me.
I know as well as anyone that OU has been down this season and honestly for the past couple, but dang. Act like you’ve been there before. Because you HAVE.
I don't think the 25,000 who were on the field are listening to you.
Urbanized 11-25-2024, 06:53 AM No, they were posting reels to Instagram. These days lots of people believe the world fully revolves around themselves and their respective internet clout. They did it for the clicks.
OKCRealtor 11-25-2024, 08:14 AM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
They’re doing it for the ‘gram (or more likely the TikTok). Stinks; blue blood schools shouldn’t be rushing the field when they beat a somewhat struggling two-loss team associated with a program against whom they have an overall winning record. Even when they (OU) themselves have been struggling. Sorry to be a wet blanket, but it’s a bad look.
The last time OU rushed the field was vs Nebraska in 2000. At the time OU had been down FOR YEARS, was in the midst of a stunning “Red October” (63-14 vs UT, plus somewhat unexpected wins vs A&M at College Station and a damn good and number 2 ranked K-State team in Manhattan). As they entered Nebraska week, OU was ranked number 2, essentially dominated the number 1 Huskers, and the win locked in a trip to the Big 12 title game and a great shot at playing for a national championship (which in fact happened).
Last night was an incredible win - and could prove to be a real turning point for the program - but it was LIGHT YEARS away from what transpired in 2000.
I honestly have no idea when was the last time prior to 2000 that the field had been rushed; maybe Switzer era (though I don’t recall one) or maybe Bud era, but I also wouldn’t be shocked if you told me 2000 was the one and only time it had happened before last night.
Fans from traditional powers should act like a win on their home field against a two loss team - not even in the top five - is EXPECTED, not the biggest win ever for their school. Last night was a pretty low bar if you ask me.
I know as well as anyone that OU has been down this season and honestly for the past couple, but dang. Act like you’ve been there before. Because you HAVE.
I tend to agree but I think it just goes to show how bad the morale & state of the program really are. This has been the worst season we've had since the 90's and quite frankly we just needed this in a bad way perhaps. Even looking to next year way things were going before this game not looking good. Hopefully they can build & close out with a W against LSU. If we lay a couple eggs next week & the bowl game again then it's going to look silly.
Everybody has to believe right now, maybe this is an event that helps turn the tide/morale & they can ride some momentum into off season. That would be the best case scenario to keep everything together. We still have no idea what things will look like after the season with players.
FighttheGoodFight 11-25-2024, 08:18 AM Eh let the fans have some fun.
jn1780 11-25-2024, 09:20 AM Just start going down the list of people who posted themselves rushing the field and charge them a 500 dollar fine. I read an article from a couple of years ago the other day, and funny thing it was about how an OU fan flipped his shirt inside out just to get the "feel of rushing the field". OU was the one who lost unexpectedly in that case.
Laramie 11-25-2024, 09:39 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAK_BsfqPes
mugofbeer 11-25-2024, 09:51 AM No, they were posting reels to Instagram. These days lots of people believe the world fully revolves around themselves and their respective internet clout. They did it for the clicks.
Sorry. While l understand the issue of safety for players and coaches, neither on the OU side seemed to care watching the game replay. I think you are taking this wayyyy to seriously. This was one of the major upsets of the year against a team that beat Georgia, South Carolina, Missouri, Wisconsin and LSU. It's OUs first year in the NFL Jr. and showed we can compete with the best. As was said, let the people have some fun.
Just start going down the list of people who posted themselves rushing the field and charge them a 500 dollar fine. I read an article from a couple of years ago the other day, and funny thing it was about how an OU fan flipped his shirt inside out just to get the "feel of rushing the field". OU was the one who lost unexpectedly in that case.
You can get a lifetime ban from entering any NFL stadium if you set foot on the playing surface at an NFL game. The ban can also extend to being banned from even being anywhere on the stadium property.
Bill Robertson 11-25-2024, 11:25 AM Sorry. While l understand the issue of safety for players and coaches, neither on the OU side seemed to care watching the game replay. I think you are taking this wayyyy to seriously. This was one of the major upsets of the year against a team that beat Georgia, South Carolina, Missouri, Wisconsin and LSU. It's OUs first year in the NFL Jr. and showed we can compete with the best. As was said, let the people have some fun.
I can't honestly say when I was going to OU i wouldn't have been on the field. And that was way before the internet so it wouldn't have been for social media. It would have been simple joyful celebration.
bamarsha 11-25-2024, 11:43 AM I "like" how OUr fans are living up to OUr name, Sooners... can't anyone actually read a clock anymore?
LordGerald 11-25-2024, 01:22 PM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
They’re doing it for the ‘gram (or more likely the TikTok). Stinks; blue blood schools shouldn’t be rushing the field when they beat a somewhat struggling two-loss team associated with a program against whom they have an overall winning record. Even when they (OU) themselves have been struggling. Sorry to be a wet blanket, but it’s a bad look.
The last time OU rushed the field was vs Nebraska in 2000. At the time OU had been down FOR YEARS, was in the midst of a stunning “Red October” (63-14 vs UT, plus somewhat unexpected wins vs A&M at College Station and a damn good and number 2 ranked K-State team in Manhattan). As they entered Nebraska week, OU was ranked number 2, essentially dominated the number 1 Huskers, and the win locked in a trip to the Big 12 title game and a great shot at playing for a national championship (which in fact happened).
Last night was an incredible win - and could prove to be a real turning point for the program - but it was LIGHT YEARS away from what transpired in 2000.
I honestly have no idea when was the last time prior to 2000 that the field had been rushed; maybe Switzer era (though I don’t recall one) or maybe Bud era, but I also wouldn’t be shocked if you told me 2000 was the one and only time it had happened before last night.
Fans from traditional powers should act like a win on their home field against a two loss team - not even in the top five - is EXPECTED, not the biggest win ever for their school. Last night was a pretty low bar if you ask me.
I know as well as anyone that OU has been down this season and honestly for the past couple, but dang. Act like you’ve been there before. Because you HAVE.
Fans rushed the field in 1997 against Syracuse. A blocked punt and Donovan McNabb puking on a hot day revved up the crowd.
okatty 11-25-2024, 01:33 PM Sports radio talking about an OU V USC in a bowl game - mostly like would be Las Vegas Bowl and would require an OU victory over LSU to make it a possibility. OU a 6.5 point dog at LSU.
BoulderSooner 11-25-2024, 01:51 PM Sports radio talking about an OU V USC in a bowl game - mostly like would be Las Vegas Bowl and would require an OU victory over LSU to make it a possibility. OU a 6.5 point dog at LSU.
that is not the way it works any more .. the SEC works with their bowl partners to place teams in bowls .... there is not really a selection order anymore ..
https://www.secsports.com/news/2022/11/bowl-selection-process
POOL OF SIX BOWLS: After the Citrus Bowl selects a team, there will be a pool of six bowls and the Conference, in consultation with the institutions and the bowls, will make the assignments for these six bowl games from all eligible SEC teams.
Rushing the field is always a student thing.
And for any student at OU, even the seniors did not have a big home win during their time.
It was a beautiful fall Saturday evening, Senior Night, network TV, the game was a massive relief to a suffering fandom, and because we were in the crappy Big 12 forever, once Nebraska left we had exactly zero great home games.
It was all just a big relief and release and OU had lots of recruits there and I bet they all thought it was awesome.
Bill Robertson 11-25-2024, 02:26 PM Rushing the field is always a student thing.
And for any student at OU, even the seniors did not have a big home win during their time.
It was a beautiful fall Saturday evening, Senior Night, network TV, the game was a massive relief to a suffering fandom, and because we were in the crappy Big 12 forever, once Nebraska left we had exactly zero great home games.
It was all just a big relief and release and OU had lots of recruits there and I bet they all thought it was awesome.
^ Yes. Completely!
kukblue1 11-25-2024, 04:38 PM The SEC has had rushing the field policy since 2004. The fines were raised in 2015 and 2023.
okatty 11-25-2024, 05:34 PM that is not the way it works any more .. the SEC works with their bowl partners to place teams in bowls .... there is not really a selection order anymore ..
https://www.secsports.com/news/2022/11/bowl-selection-process
There is still a pecking order within the conference so how they finish matters.
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