and don't invoke fictional tv characters from the last century.
Things you say when you have no actual argument.

One of us understands. It's not you.



Yep

You got me. They absolutely care how close they get. If they're spot on correct, they get a lollipop.

Things you say when you have no actual argument.

Wow, never thought you would admit it. You invoke fictional characters as you have no argument. Nice own.

Wow, never thought you would admit it. You invoke fictional characters as you have no argument. Nice own.

Cute how you white knighted for bill. It doesn't take much to get you wound up.

What else are you two experts in so I can laugh at that too?

enough with the bickering... back to topic.

Can we stop and move on?

Reading this, I am convinced that one of you is saying

"The sun rises in the East and sets in the West"

And the other one is saying "No!"

"The sun sets in the West and rises in the East"

enough with the bickering... back to topic.

Alright

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Friday, August 30, 2024

Temple Owls @ Oklahoma Sooners

Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, Norman, OK

Kickoff 6:00 PM - CST * * * TV ESPN

Awesome! Didn't realize they'd redone the press box and west upper deck.

Awesome! Didn't realize they'd redone the press box and west upper deck.

:)
Not Yet.

Radar looks good right now. I want rain for the yard but just not tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfpbmImkKgk


Temple Owls 3 @ Oklahoma Sooners 51


Box score https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401628328

Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, Norman,OK - Attendance: 83,329

Letting General Booty leave was a mistake the Sooners will soon learn to regret.

Letting General Booty leave was a mistake the Sooners will soon learn to regret.

Surely this is a joke. He’d be 4th string at best.

Letting General Booty leave was a mistake the Sooners will soon learn to regret.

It’s too bad he wasn’t better. He has an all time college football player name. If he started for OU, his NIL potential would’ve been unlimited.

Letting General Booty leave was a mistake the Sooners will soon learn to regret.

He threw for 114 yards and 1 TD in his ULM debut this past week.

Letting General Booty leave was a mistake the Sooners will soon learn to regret.

He wan't going to get to play so it was best for all parties.

There's really no "letting them go" any more, anyway. They're all free agents every season.

The majority of starting FBS QBs are transfers.

nm

Gonna be a long season if they don’t make big improvements in a hurry. Pretty sure Maine is the only team left on the schedule that’s worse than Houston.

yeah... that was a really sloppy performance all around for OU.

The offense is atrocious, gotta get healthy. Even still upside & expectations for this year just took a big hit.

The offense is atrocious, gotta get healthy. Even still upside & expectations for this year just took a big hit.
Yeah. I was really hoping the predictions of 7-5 or 8-4 were underestimating us. If the offense doesn't get a lot better real fast and the defense doesn't stop making stupid mistakes those predictions might be overestimating us.

Overheard in the President's box, "We paid this guy how much"?

Need 4 tix for Tulane game

Overheard in the President's box, "We paid this guy how much"?
Referencing a player, or a coach?

Referencing a player, or a coach?

Arnold.

Referencing a player, or a coach?

Littrell

^^^^^^^^^
Makes sense.

Tulane will be a big test. They are a decent team overall. I thought the play calling was actually fine (maybe run a bit more) but the execution of those plays was pretty bad. Seems like either an over zealous offensive play calling based on the athletes we have or the injuries piled up and the replacements can't run the plays.

Tulane will be a big test. They are a decent team overall. I thought the play calling was actually fine (maybe run a bit more) but the execution of those plays was pretty bad. Seems like either an over zealous offensive play calling based on the athletes we have or the injuries piled up and the replacements can't run the plays.

OU started the 4th team center on Sat (as well as missing 3 of the projected top 4 WR) .... . that causes all kinds of problems ...

For people criticizing the play calling, what calls do you think would have worked? To me, the problem was more execution than play calling. Execution lacked at least partially because this team is beat up (especially on o-line and WR), inexperienced (especially QB), and out of sync. In the end, Littrell is responsible for getting the offense to work and the offense is the worst it's been since the Blake era. I'm not saying he shouldn't get blame, but I just didn't think the play calling was the major problem.

For people criticizing the play calling, what calls do you think would have worked? To me, the problem was more execution than play calling. Execution lacked at least partially because this team is beat up (especially on o-line and WR), inexperienced (especially QB), and out of sync. In the end, Littrell is responsible for getting the offense to work and the offense is the worst it's been since the Blake era. I'm not saying he shouldn't get blame, but I just didn't think the play calling was the major problem.
Who here was criticizing the play calling? The closest thing I'm seeing was fightthegoodfight's post, and that left the door open to the issues potentially being play calling OR player injuries, but made no firm pronouncements. Actually said "I thought the play calling was actually fine (maybe run a bit more) but the execution of those plays was pretty bad..."

We have a very inexperienced and beat up O-line trying to protect a first year starter WB who's trying to throw to a receiver corp that's mostly not the regular starters. That same O-line is trying to open holes for the run game. We averaged 2.something yards per carry running. So running more wasn't a real option. As much as I love my Sooners this offense just realistically doesn't have the potential to be very good. So the defense has to be better. No "wrestling" with opposing receivers and taking a helmet off on the field giving the other team 15 yards personal fouls. Or the obvious defensive plays where our coverage players didn't seem to know where they should be or where their teammates were going to be.

Who here was criticizing the play calling? The closest thing I'm seeing was fightthegoodfight's post, and that left the door open to the issues potentially being play calling OR player injuries, but made no firm pronouncements. Actually said "I thought the play calling was actually fine (maybe run a bit more) but the execution of those plays was pretty bad..."

No one on here. And I agree with you. I've just heard the play calling criticism in a lot of other places so I wanted to discuss what Littrell needs to do to improve this team.

^During the Total Dominance Hour tonight, Traber listed OU’s three biggest problems as:

1. Play calling, 2. O-Line and 3. Quarterback play.

So, yes, it is being fussed about.

i've only coached football from my armchair, but i think the biggest offensive issue for the sooners is the offensive line. i think we could manage with the injuries at wide receiver if the line could have more success.

going into the '23-'24 season, the starting offensive line consisted of:
walter rouse, tyler guyton, savion byrd, mckade mettauer, and andrew raym.

and going into the '24-'25 season:
michael tarquin, jacob sexton, branson hickman, febrechi nwaiwu, and spencer brown

so... an entirely new starting line and the team is already missing its starting center. if that line can't achieve their objectives, the team is going to struggle on every aspect of offense regardless of the plays called or the skill of the quarterback.

i've only coached football from my armchair, but i think the biggest offensive issue for the sooners is the offensive line. i think we could manage with the injuries at wide receiver if the line could have more success.

going into the '23-'24 season, the starting offensive line consisted of:
walter rouse, tyler guyton, savion byrd, mckade mettauer, and andrew raym.

and going into the '24-'25 season:
michael tarquin, jacob sexton, branson hickman, febrechi nwaiwu, and spencer brown

so... an entirely new starting line and the team is already missing its starting center. if that line can't achieve their objectives, the team is going to struggle on every aspect of offense regardless of the plays called or the skill of the quarterback.

spencer brown has not been and is not the starting RT ..

^During the Total Dominance Hour tonight, Traber listed OU’s three biggest problems as:

1. Play calling, 2. O-Line and 3. Quarterback play.

So, yes, it is being fussed about.
I didn’t say it wasn’t being fussed about elsewhere. I read Dan’s original post as being directed at posters on this board who were saying it, and I’ve seen none of that here to date. But he clarified that he meant it differently than I’d read it.

spencer brown has not been and is not the starting RT ..

ok... so, all the sites that reported that got it wrong. obviously you're a more engaged fan than i am... i'd be more interested in your analysis of the team's offensive issues than your ability to cherry-pick one wrong name out of a list.

ok... so, all the sites that reported that got it wrong. obviously you're a more engaged fan than i am... i'd be more interested in your analysis of the team's offensive issues than your ability to cherry-pick one wrong name out of a list.

having to start the 4th string center is the biggest issue by far ... (he is overmatched physically and is not making the correct calls) .

second is because of the sometimes bad oline play a young QB is not comfortable in the pocket (even when the pass blocking is not bad )

the WR are also not run blocking very well on the outside .. (missing 3 of the top 4 wr is a huge part of that problem as all 3 were very good blockers) ..

having to start the 4th string center is the biggest issue by far ... (he is overmatched physically and is not making the correct calls) .

second is because of the sometimes bad oline play a young QB is not comfortable in the pocket (even when the pass blocking is not bad )

the WR are also not run blocking very well on the outside .. (missing 3 of the top 4 wr is a huge part of that problem as all 3 were very good blockers) ..

we definitely agree on the first two, but i hadn't thought too much about the third point. i'm trying to think how many times ou's offence even tried to run it outside against houston.

we definitely agree on the first two, but i hadn't thought too much about the third point. i'm trying to think how many times ou's offence even tried to run it outside against houston.

i should have included blocking for each other as well ... the quick flat passes and the end arounds ..

Forecast for Saturday is TOASTY for a 230 game.

Forecast for Saturday is TOASTY for a 230 game.
I've been to a bunch of 90+ degree games there. It was miserable.

I've been to a bunch of 90+ degree games there. It was miserable.

Especially since the south end zone was closed.

Especially since the south end zone was closed.

man that might have made a slight difference (more in some parts of the stadium than others) but I’ve been to almost every game since 2001 and September games don’t seem any more miserably hot after 2016 than they were before. Daytime games in that stadium have always sucked anytime the temperature is over 85 and are exponentially worse if you’re in the sun.

It's always been hot in September for mid day games but wind took the edge off. There is absolutely no breeze, now.

Resale ticket market is reflecting the heat factor I think. Pretty reasonable prices for Saturday.

Resale ticket market is reflecting the heat factor I think. Pretty reasonable prices for Saturday.

yeag that’s not the only factor it’s reflecting unfortunately lol

The funny thing is that assuming OU wins tomorrow, I don’t see any way that GameDay isn’t in Norman for the first time since 2012 next weekend. (Well I guess they were also here in 2020, but that doesn’t really feel like it counts given the 25% capacity restrictions during that season.)

^Yep, agree the Gameday gang should be in Norman IF they get a win Saturday. Seems all set up for that.

Return of Heupel, night game, and a ranked SEC matchup. That is Gameday material

^Yep, agree the Gameday gang should be in Norman IF they get a win Saturday. Seems all set up for that.

Yeah have to get that W over Tulane first ;)

First half I was hoping for a big win. Now I'm just hoping we hang on for a win.

they played much better than last week... but they still need a ton of improvement on offensive line.

R Mason Thomas had a hell of a game.

they played much better than last week... but they still need a ton of improvement on offensive line.
They did play better. Especially in the first half. In the second not as much. I've never coached but I study the intricacies of football to a great degree. In the first half the offense ran mostly very quick, short passes, end around runs, QB keeps when nothing else was immediately open. Perfect plays for an o-line that can't block very well.
In the second half they went away from that. It could be that they had a lead and wanted to see what else might work. But I've always thought "if it ain't broke don't fix it". And the more tired the o-line got the less time the offense had to develop plays. Exactly when very quick plays would be the best choice.

R Mason Thomas had a hell of a game.
Yes. He did!

Return of Heupel, night game, and a ranked SEC matchup. That is Gameday material

One of the biggest games in Norman in a long time. Some would argue this is OU’s most important game in decades. A win in the first SEC matchup against a highly ranked Tennessee team would make a statement. A loss and doubt creeps in whether OU can really truly compete at the highest level in CFB.