I think we’re going to spend some money on a linebacker in the portal that will take some of those minutes with Carter leaving. That said I do think Kanak will play and will be better after another offseason at the position (kinda wish we would move him to H Back…he was a great RB in HS and could be useful there given our issues at TE).

i doubt the spend much of anyting on a LBer ..

Osomingho (bad spelling) is likely moving to Will from cheetah (or will play both) and will back up Kip and Kanak will back up at the Mike ..

dolby and hopefully kendal daniels will be at the cheetah .

i doubt the spend much of anyting on a LBer ..

Osomingho (bad spelling) is likely moving to Will from cheetah (or will play both) and will back up Kip and Kanak will back up at the Mike ..

dolby and hopefully kendal daniels will be at the cheetah .

yeah Kendall Daniel’s was who I was referring to, just wasn’t sure how much it was going to cost.

By others, yes, but not by the poster I was responding to (at least that I saw).

So, are they meaningless? If so, no one cares if they we, including the athletes. I really don't think that's true, so there is, at least some, meaning in the bowl games. Most of the meaning is for the guys coming back the next season. All those practices and the game experience is priceless to those competing for PT (playing time) next year. Plus, fans can use it as bragging rights, coaches can uses wins as selling points while opposing coaches can use it to recruit against you (look, they can't even win a bowl game, etc.). Now, it doesn't mean as much as winning the national championship (no one said that) or even a CFP game (no one said that either), but there is still meaning.

To put it another way, if the bowl game was meaningless, so was the last game of the regular season against LSU. We were already bowl eligible, so it wasn't going to improve OUr standing in any way, shape, or form (no CFP win or lose, or even a conference championship game). So now some regular season games are meaningless, based on this logic.

Pretty much 'no' to all of that,

But I have been convinced that the word "meaningless" is a much stronger word than I thought it was, especially in context of describing a bowl game. I used it because I thought we were talking about what conclusions could be drawn from the bowl game in context of the program's health going forward.

I didn't mean to suggest that it meant nothing to everyone who participated in it.

Everyone who played in that game is a D-1 Football Player. That does mean something. That's petty much the top 2 percentile of football players of those that played in that class of high school players. All these guys are objectively good.

But seriously. The Bowl Game Against Navy is simply a data point that should be ignored and every "recruit" knows that and also no recruit today looks at bowl games any more, if they ever did.

HALF of D-1 starting football players declared they are going to play for a different school next year before bowl season even started. Half of the starting QBs for power 4 conferences this year were transfers. Half of the starting QBs in the playoffs this year were transfers.

This isn't your grandpa's college football.

Every year is free agency. Bowl games are try-outs.

What incoming players are expected to start? I don't think you're doing your homework. The only players who might start that didn't play are injured players—Kendall Dolby and Gentry Williams. Dolby's injury was really bad so he may not be 100%, and Williams may not win the job anyway. Otherwise, there's a good chance that next year's starters all played in the bowl game.

and incoming DE is 1000% expected to start ..

and very very likely a portal incomings CB will be expected to start ..

and very likely an incoming Cheetah will be expected to start .. ..

so no there is NOT a good chance that next years starters all played in the bowl game ... there is almost 0 % chance of that

Who is the incoming DE that is going to start? And, no, I don’t think O’Connor will start if he commits. I think he’ll be in the rotation. And I’m pretty sure Dolby or Omosigho will start at Cheetah. So, yeah, no one has been able to name one actual player who is for sure starting on defense. The larger point being that the defense that played against Navy is our defense, which I don’t think it is a bad thing.

Who is the incoming DE that is going to start? And, no, I don’t think O’Connor will start if he commits. I think he’ll be in the rotation. And I’m pretty sure Dolby or Omosigho will start at Cheetah. So, yeah, no one has been able to name one actual player who is for sure starting on defense. The larger point being that the defense that played against Navy is our defense, which I don’t think it is a bad thing.

Think he was talking about Marvin Jones Jr. at Edge, who very likely would start if signed but it seems like the chance of him signing is 50/50 at best right now.

I think Kendall Daniels from OSU is the cheetah he’s talking about who would be in the running for the starting job there if he signs but if not, in the rotation at Cheetah or LB.

Think he was talking about Marvin Jones Jr. at Edge, who very likely would start if signed but it seems like the chance of him signing is 50/50 at best right now.

I think Kendall Daniels from OSU is the cheetah he’s talking about who would be in the running for the starting job there if he signs but if not, in the rotation at Cheetah or LB.

Fair enough, but I don't think either are likely to start even if they did sign, which is unlikely. Marvin Jones Jr. is probably not starting over RMT (assuming he stays) or Gracen Halton, who were both very good this season. Again, I hold by my original statement: OU's defense against Navy is likely the same one we'll see to start next season. The big changes are all on the other side of the ball.

Fair enough, but I don't think either are likely to start even if they did sign, which is unlikely. Marvin Jones Jr. is probably not starting over RMT (assuming he stays) or Gracen Halton, who were both very good this season. Again, I hold by my original statement: OU's defense against Navy is likely the same one we'll see to start next season. The big changes are all on the other side of the ball.

Gracen Halton is not an Edge/DE guy and played on the interior DL most of the time. If we signed MJJ, he likely starts opposite of RMJ ahead of PJ and Okoye.

Fair enough, but I don't think either are likely to start even if they did sign, which is unlikely. Marvin Jones Jr. is probably not starting over RMT (assuming he stays) or Gracen Halton, who were both very good this season. Again, I hold by my original statement: OU's defense against Navy is likely the same one we'll see to start next season. The big changes are all on the other side of the ball.

MJJ signed. George Stoia predicts he’ll start opposite of RMJ. Halton is on the interior.

https://x.com/georgestoia/status/1876071259563602148?s=46&t=7SyiZk5KdTcgVjJhYS-3KQ

Who is the incoming DE that is going to start? And, no, I don’t think O’Connor will start if he commits. I think he’ll be in the rotation. And I’m pretty sure Dolby or Omosigho will start at Cheetah. So, yeah, no one has been able to name one actual player who is for sure starting on defense. The larger point being that the defense that played against Navy is our defense, which I don’t think it is a bad thing.

well Dolby was not part of the bowl game Omosigho is likely moving to Will LBer ..

MJJ or anther incoming DE will start .. and if not .. PJ will and he also didn't really play in the bowl game ..

Gentry Williams if healthy will start also not in the bowl game or a portal CB

so against the D against navy was not the defense next season ..

Fair enough, but I don't think either are likely to start even if they did sign, which is unlikely. Marvin Jones Jr. is probably not starting over RMT (assuming he stays) or Gracen Halton, who were both very good this season. Again, I hold by my original statement: OU's defense against Navy is likely the same one we'll see to start next season. The big changes are all on the other side of the ball.

lol Halton is a DT all year long he doesn't play DE ... that is about all i need to read to no longer listen to what you post about the OU defense ..

at least 3 players will start on D next year that didn't play against Navy . (more then 25%) so not the Same one..

well Dolby was not part of the bowl game Omosigho is likely moving to Will LBer ..

MJJ or anther incoming DE will start .. and if not .. PJ will and he also didn't really play in the bowl game ..

Gentry Williams if healthy will start also not in the bowl game or a portal CB

so against the D against navy was not the defense next season ..

Yeah, MJJ will likely start and Kendall Daniels will get to compete to start, but I bet he's more in the rotation for certain packages. I already mentioned the injured players. If healthy, Dolby is really good, but I don't have much faith in Gentry Williams starting over other guys considering his health history. Anyway, so the D that played against Navy is still extremely similar to what will start next season. Replace Downs with MJJ and maybe Dolby returns. So, it's still basically the same defense, which is fine. The defense is mostly been good.


lol Halton is a DT all year long he doesn't play DE ... that is about all i need to read to no longer listen to what you post about the OU defense ..

at least 3 players will start on D next year that didn't play against Navy . (more then 25%) so not the Same one..

Chill. You're not exactly the beacon of accurate information or constructive dialogue on this message board. I mistakenly mixed up one player in my mind. That's my bad, but it's not the nuclear launch codes. If I have your highest permission I think I will continue to participate in football talk on a message board.

Kendall Daniels just signed as well.