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Pete
02-27-2024, 09:32 AM
Located west of Cimarron Road and south of I-40, this airport is not only within OKC city limits, it's owned by the City as well.

It covers 1,000 acres and according to Wikipedia, averages about 70 flights a day.


I've been hearing some rumblings about the City wanting to acquire more land surrounding the airport and develop it into something similar to what is being done at I-240 and Bryant. There has been a big push to obtain more mega-sites for industrial and distribution and as sprawling as OKC is, there are few big sites available along I-40 in particular.

I-40 is more important than I-35 when it comes to distribution because almost all goods from Asia (which is by far the biggest manufacturer of products sold in the U.S.) arrive at the Port of Los Angeles. If you have ever driven I-40 from L.A. as I have many times, you'd be stunned to see huge convoys of trucks heading east, transporting important product to the rest of the country.

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Bellaboo
02-27-2024, 11:44 AM
Located west of Cimarron Road and south of I-40, this airport is not only within OKC city limits, it's owned by the City as well.

It covers 1,000 acres and according to Wikipedia, averages about 70 flights a day.


I've been hearing some rumblings about the City wanting to acquire more land surrounding the airport and develop it into something similar to what is being done at I-240 and Bryant. There has been a big push to obtain more mega-sites for industrial and distribution and as sprawling as OKC is, there are few big sites available along I-40 in particular.

I-40 is more important than I-35 when it comes to distribution because almost all goods from Asia (which is by far the biggest manufacturer of products sold in the U.S.) arrive at the Port of Los Angeles. If you have ever driven I-40 from L.A. as I have many times, you'd be stunned to see huge convoys of trucks heading east, transporting important product to the rest of the country.

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/page022724a.jpg

I believe it is Clarence Page. I used to know him back in the '70's
Worked for Page Airmotive for 4 years.
He also went by C.E. Page

Pete
02-27-2024, 12:08 PM
I wonder if the City might consider consolidating it into Wiley Post then using the 1,000 acres for economic development.

Zuplar
02-27-2024, 12:32 PM
I don't know if it's still this way, but the airspace around CE Page used to have an aerobatic designation and was one of the few places pilots could fly those types of moves. If this is still the case I could see that being a reason they can't consolidate.

Also they are building tons of houses over just south of there since it's all Yukon High School.

Old article from: https://journalrecord.com/1996/08/aerobatic-pilots-soar-above-weather-woes/

PoliSciGuy
02-27-2024, 12:58 PM
I don't know if it's still this way, but the airspace around CE Page used to have an aerobatic designation and was one of the few places pilots could fly those types of moves. If this is still the case I could see that being a reason they can't consolidate.

Also they are building tons of houses over just south of there since it's all Yukon High School.

Old article from: https://journalrecord.com/1996/08/aerobatic-pilots-soar-above-weather-woes/

According to the AirNav page (https://www.airnav.com/airport/KRCE), you're right. Aerobatic flight is permitted below 6,400ft within 1 mile of the airport. How this impacts housing/development regulations I'm not sure.

Either way, for a plane geek like myself, I love seeing more aviation development in the metro area.

Zuplar
02-27-2024, 01:30 PM
According to the AirNav page (https://www.airnav.com/airport/KRCE), you're right. Aerobatic flight is permitted below 6,400ft within 1 mile of the airport. How this impacts housing/development regulations I'm not sure.

Either way, for a plane geek like myself, I love seeing more aviation development in the metro area.

Thanks I was looking for something like that but didn't spend much time. I remember back in the day driving in that area seeing planes do all sorts of cool stuff you only usually see at airshows.

Bellaboo
02-27-2024, 02:50 PM
The Blue Angels performed there in the late 90's. Not sure if the Will Rogers west runway was torn up for whatever reason, Aero Space America was at C. E. Page one time.

Also, the Coors Light Silver Bullet jets were in the far South Hanger, which is the last hanger remaining. They used to open both East and West doors and fly those miniature jets through the hanger, fast.
In 1979, the rumor had it as being the cargo hub for OKC by 1985. That never happened as we all know.

Pete
02-27-2024, 03:08 PM
Here is a map of everything the Alliance for Economic Development is trying to acquire:

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/page022724b.jpg

PoliSciGuy
02-27-2024, 03:25 PM
That is a *lot* of land. Not only would that allow for industry/warehouses around the area but they could even throw in a whole second North-South runway if they wanted to

Bellaboo
02-27-2024, 03:58 PM
Looks like about 1,600 acres, all to the west of Page.

Pete
02-27-2024, 06:19 PM
The Alliance for Economic Development started sending letters to the property owners within that red boundary last December.

I was forwarded one of those letters and in it they say: " We have an opportunity for a significant manufacturing company that is interested in locating here in the Yukon, El Reno and Oklahoma City area."

stlokc
02-27-2024, 08:25 PM
We all know how large OKC is geographically, and why. But it’s still crazy to me, looking at that Google Earth image, that that airport is actually in Oklahoma City proper. It seems so far west.

Oh well, back to the topic.

Snowman
02-27-2024, 08:27 PM
That is a *lot* of land. Not only would that allow for industry/warehouses around the area but they could even throw in a whole second North-South runway if they wanted to

There already is two N/S runways at CE Page, one is around half the length of the other. Given the size of most planes there and less taxi distance to hangers, the shorter runway might be used more than the longer one.

PhiAlpha
02-28-2024, 06:53 AM
The Blue Angels performed there in the late 90's. Not sure if the Will Rogers west runway was torn up for whatever reason, Aero Space America was at C. E. Page one time.

Also, the Coors Light Silver Bullet jets were in the far South Hanger, which is the last hanger remaining. They used to open both East and West doors and fly those miniature jets through the hanger, fast.
In 1979, the rumor had it as being the cargo hub for OKC by 1985. That never happened as we all know.

I was there for that blue angels show!

baralheia
02-29-2024, 04:05 PM
The Alliance for Economic Development started sending letters to the property owners within that red boundary last December.

I was forwarded one of those letters and in it they say: " We have an opportunity for a significant manufacturing company that is interested in locating here in the Yukon, El Reno and Oklahoma City area."

Any speculation as to which manufacturing company is being referenced here? I'm assuming aerospace, if they want to be located at the airport...

Pete
02-29-2024, 04:15 PM
Any speculation as to which manufacturing company is being referenced here? I'm assuming aerospace, if they want to be located at the airport...

No idea. They use the Alliance shield to cloak anything like this in great secrecy.

Bellaboo
02-29-2024, 05:22 PM
I was there for that blue angels show!

I was too.. I remember an F18 flying upside down very low altitude right over the top. Pilots helmet front and center.

BB37
03-03-2024, 07:11 PM
Wonder if they could be looking at developing CEP as a cargo airport like Alliance in FTW?

Pete
04-25-2024, 07:30 AM
The City has filed plans to annex 320 acres to the west of CE Page airport.

It has passed the first hurdle and will likely be heard at the May 9th Planning Commission meeting.

As a reminder, the second image is all the land the Alliance is attempting to purchase; as they continue to acquire land we'll likely see more annexation.

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/page042524a.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/page022724b.jpg

The
04-25-2024, 08:39 AM
This seems overly pie in the sky.

bison34
04-25-2024, 08:44 AM
This seems overly pie in the sky.

Why?

jn1780
04-25-2024, 09:33 AM
This seems overly pie in the sky.

Its similar to what is being done at Will Rogers. I don't the pie has really been defined, just a master plan for the future.

Pete
04-25-2024, 09:52 AM
If you read upthread, you will see the Alliance is actively courting a large manufacturer for that site.

Even if that doesn't come to pass, these big distribution sites have become very much in demand along the interstates in and around OKC.

CaptDave
04-25-2024, 10:02 AM
If BNSF and / or UP were to build an intermodal facility there it could become a huge logistics hub. Probably not on the level of Alliance TX, and maybe OKC is too close to Alliance to make it viable on a larger scale. But one would have to think the idea has been considered.

Snowman
04-25-2024, 12:06 PM
If BNSF and / or UP were to build an intermodal facility there it could become a huge logistics hub. Probably not on the level of Alliance TX, and maybe OKC is too close to Alliance to make it viable on a larger scale. But one would have to think the idea has been considered.

Given the positioning of rail lines and interstate, it would probably be easier and cheaper to route rail to Will Rogers. Which already has better runways from length and concrete depth; along with a range of other things from navigation aids, tower, fuel supply, and other support.

Pete
06-06-2024, 09:45 AM
In the Planning Commission meeting where this first annexation was approved, it was stated that OKC has missed out on opportunities by not having a contiguous 1,000 acre site for development.

They also said the airport would continue to operate.

shavethewhales
06-06-2024, 01:16 PM
I'm trying to imagine what operations need 1,000+ contiguous acres outside of military bases.... How many such sites exist in the US?

That would be for like an entire car manufacturing operation from raw components to finished car.

Pete
06-06-2024, 01:54 PM
^

The gigafactory in Texas took 2,500 acres.

The Hyndai plant in Texas took 3,000 acres.

Even Reserve 577 south of Crossroads is 640 acres.

BoulderSooner
06-06-2024, 02:25 PM
I'm trying to imagine what operations need 1,000+ contiguous acres outside of military bases.... How many such sites exist in the US?

That would be for like an entire car manufacturing operation from raw components to finished car.

lol tinker is more like 7000 acres ..

T. Jamison
06-06-2024, 02:29 PM
I'd imagine Hobby Lobby is over 1,000 acres at this point.

Pete
06-06-2024, 02:33 PM
I'd imagine Hobby Lobby is over 1,000 acres at this point.

That's a great point.

I just did a rough measurement on Google Earth and it shows about 1,200 acres.

citywokchinesefood
06-08-2024, 02:30 PM
The annexation makes a lot of sense. It is potentially a huge source of tax revenue for the city.

gopokes88
06-10-2024, 11:10 AM
This seems overly pie in the sky.

The behind closed doors unreported nature of it means it's real.

The loud stuff like Panasonic never comes to fruition.

gopokes88
06-10-2024, 11:12 AM
I'm trying to imagine what operations need 1,000+ contiguous acres outside of military bases.... How many such sites exist in the US?

That would be for like an entire car manufacturing operation from raw components to finished car.

Semiconductor maybe. We have the water needed, airport plus I40

Pete
06-10-2024, 11:17 AM
It doesn't have to mean we are going after a high-profile manufacturer.

Given our location in the center of the country, interstate access in all directions, and the fact that most consumer goods come into the U.S. through the port of L.A. then head east on I-10 or I-40, OKC will continue to get big distribution centers.

I've driven east from L.A. on I-40 numerous times and on the last trip I simply couldn't believe the number of trucks heading in that direction. Almost 40% of ALL imports into the U.S. come in through the port of L.A. and a huge percentage of that is trucked to points east.

For the same reason, we would be a good candidate for assembly plants rather than manufacturing.

gopokes88
06-10-2024, 12:56 PM
Jobs and economic development are always good. Excited to see what plays out

VeggieMeat
06-11-2024, 05:41 PM
Put a rail spur system tying into the existing line on the north side of I-40, and you have a tri-modal shipping hub. Maybe close enough to tie into Catoosa via rail economically? (I have no idea, just spit-balling ideas)

CaptDave
06-12-2024, 08:22 AM
Put a rail spur system tying into the existing line on the north side of I-40, and you have a tri-modal shipping hub. Maybe close enough to tie into Catoosa via rail economically? (I have no idea, just spit-balling ideas)

I've been thinking the same thing. It could become a scaled down version of the Alliance multi-port.

mugofbeer
06-12-2024, 03:27 PM
That entire Canadian County area is primed for industrial but the land needs to have utilities installed to compete with the big Hoover economic vacuum to our south.