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Located west of Cimarron Road and south of I-40, this airport is not only within OKC city limits, it's owned by the City as well.
It covers 1,000 acres and according to Wikipedia, averages about 70 flights a day.
I've been hearing some rumblings about the City wanting to acquire more land surrounding the airport and develop it into something similar to what is being done at I-240 and Bryant. There has been a big push to obtain more mega-sites for industrial and distribution and as sprawling as OKC is, there are few big sites available along I-40 in particular.
I-40 is more important than I-35 when it comes to distribution because almost all goods from Asia (which is by far the biggest manufacturer of products sold in the U.S.) arrive at the Port of Los Angeles. If you have ever driven I-40 from L.A. as I have many times, you'd be stunned to see huge convoys of trucks heading east, transporting important product to the rest of the country.
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Bellaboo 02-27-2024, 12:44 PM Located west of Cimarron Road and south of I-40, this airport is not only within OKC city limits, it's owned by the City as well.
It covers 1,000 acres and according to Wikipedia, averages about 70 flights a day.
I've been hearing some rumblings about the City wanting to acquire more land surrounding the airport and develop it into something similar to what is being done at I-240 and Bryant. There has been a big push to obtain more mega-sites for industrial and distribution and as sprawling as OKC is, there are few big sites available along I-40 in particular.
I-40 is more important than I-35 when it comes to distribution because almost all goods from Asia (which is by far the biggest manufacturer of products sold in the U.S.) arrive at the Port of Los Angeles. If you have ever driven I-40 from L.A. as I have many times, you'd be stunned to see huge convoys of trucks heading east, transporting important product to the rest of the country.
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I believe it is Clarence Page. I used to know him back in the '70's
Worked for Page Airmotive for 4 years.
He also went by C.E. Page
I wonder if the City might consider consolidating it into Wiley Post then using the 1,000 acres for economic development.
Zuplar 02-27-2024, 01:32 PM I don't know if it's still this way, but the airspace around CE Page used to have an aerobatic designation and was one of the few places pilots could fly those types of moves. If this is still the case I could see that being a reason they can't consolidate.
Also they are building tons of houses over just south of there since it's all Yukon High School.
Old article from: https://journalrecord.com/1996/08/aerobatic-pilots-soar-above-weather-woes/
PoliSciGuy 02-27-2024, 01:58 PM I don't know if it's still this way, but the airspace around CE Page used to have an aerobatic designation and was one of the few places pilots could fly those types of moves. If this is still the case I could see that being a reason they can't consolidate.
Also they are building tons of houses over just south of there since it's all Yukon High School.
Old article from: https://journalrecord.com/1996/08/aerobatic-pilots-soar-above-weather-woes/
According to the AirNav page (https://www.airnav.com/airport/KRCE), you're right. Aerobatic flight is permitted below 6,400ft within 1 mile of the airport. How this impacts housing/development regulations I'm not sure.
Either way, for a plane geek like myself, I love seeing more aviation development in the metro area.
Zuplar 02-27-2024, 02:30 PM According to the AirNav page (https://www.airnav.com/airport/KRCE), you're right. Aerobatic flight is permitted below 6,400ft within 1 mile of the airport. How this impacts housing/development regulations I'm not sure.
Either way, for a plane geek like myself, I love seeing more aviation development in the metro area.
Thanks I was looking for something like that but didn't spend much time. I remember back in the day driving in that area seeing planes do all sorts of cool stuff you only usually see at airshows.
Bellaboo 02-27-2024, 03:50 PM The Blue Angels performed there in the late 90's. Not sure if the Will Rogers west runway was torn up for whatever reason, Aero Space America was at C. E. Page one time.
Also, the Coors Light Silver Bullet jets were in the far South Hanger, which is the last hanger remaining. They used to open both East and West doors and fly those miniature jets through the hanger, fast.
In 1979, the rumor had it as being the cargo hub for OKC by 1985. That never happened as we all know.
Here is a map of everything the Alliance for Economic Development is trying to acquire:
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PoliSciGuy 02-27-2024, 04:25 PM That is a *lot* of land. Not only would that allow for industry/warehouses around the area but they could even throw in a whole second North-South runway if they wanted to
Bellaboo 02-27-2024, 04:58 PM Looks like about 1,600 acres, all to the west of Page.
The Alliance for Economic Development started sending letters to the property owners within that red boundary last December.
I was forwarded one of those letters and in it they say: " We have an opportunity for a significant manufacturing company that is interested in locating here in the Yukon, El Reno and Oklahoma City area."
stlokc 02-27-2024, 09:25 PM We all know how large OKC is geographically, and why. But it’s still crazy to me, looking at that Google Earth image, that that airport is actually in Oklahoma City proper. It seems so far west.
Oh well, back to the topic.
Snowman 02-27-2024, 09:27 PM That is a *lot* of land. Not only would that allow for industry/warehouses around the area but they could even throw in a whole second North-South runway if they wanted to
There already is two N/S runways at CE Page, one is around half the length of the other. Given the size of most planes there and less taxi distance to hangers, the shorter runway might be used more than the longer one.
PhiAlpha 02-28-2024, 07:53 AM The Blue Angels performed there in the late 90's. Not sure if the Will Rogers west runway was torn up for whatever reason, Aero Space America was at C. E. Page one time.
Also, the Coors Light Silver Bullet jets were in the far South Hanger, which is the last hanger remaining. They used to open both East and West doors and fly those miniature jets through the hanger, fast.
In 1979, the rumor had it as being the cargo hub for OKC by 1985. That never happened as we all know.
I was there for that blue angels show!
baralheia 02-29-2024, 05:05 PM The Alliance for Economic Development started sending letters to the property owners within that red boundary last December.
I was forwarded one of those letters and in it they say: " We have an opportunity for a significant manufacturing company that is interested in locating here in the Yukon, El Reno and Oklahoma City area."
Any speculation as to which manufacturing company is being referenced here? I'm assuming aerospace, if they want to be located at the airport...
Any speculation as to which manufacturing company is being referenced here? I'm assuming aerospace, if they want to be located at the airport...
No idea. They use the Alliance shield to cloak anything like this in great secrecy.
Bellaboo 02-29-2024, 06:22 PM I was there for that blue angels show!
I was too.. I remember an F18 flying upside down very low altitude right over the top. Pilots helmet front and center.
Wonder if they could be looking at developing CEP as a cargo airport like Alliance in FTW?
The City has filed plans to annex 320 acres to the west of CE Page airport.
It has passed the first hurdle and will likely be heard at the May 9th Planning Commission meeting.
As a reminder, the second image is all the land the Alliance is attempting to purchase; as they continue to acquire land we'll likely see more annexation.
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This seems overly pie in the sky.
bison34 04-25-2024, 09:44 AM This seems overly pie in the sky.
Why?
jn1780 04-25-2024, 10:33 AM This seems overly pie in the sky.
Its similar to what is being done at Will Rogers. I don't the pie has really been defined, just a master plan for the future.
If you read upthread, you will see the Alliance is actively courting a large manufacturer for that site.
Even if that doesn't come to pass, these big distribution sites have become very much in demand along the interstates in and around OKC.
CaptDave 04-25-2024, 11:02 AM If BNSF and / or UP were to build an intermodal facility there it could become a huge logistics hub. Probably not on the level of Alliance TX, and maybe OKC is too close to Alliance to make it viable on a larger scale. But one would have to think the idea has been considered.
Snowman 04-25-2024, 01:06 PM If BNSF and / or UP were to build an intermodal facility there it could become a huge logistics hub. Probably not on the level of Alliance TX, and maybe OKC is too close to Alliance to make it viable on a larger scale. But one would have to think the idea has been considered.
Given the positioning of rail lines and interstate, it would probably be easier and cheaper to route rail to Will Rogers. Which already has better runways from length and concrete depth; along with a range of other things from navigation aids, tower, fuel supply, and other support.
In the Planning Commission meeting where this first annexation was approved, it was stated that OKC has missed out on opportunities by not having a contiguous 1,000 acre site for development.
They also said the airport would continue to operate.
shavethewhales 06-06-2024, 02:16 PM I'm trying to imagine what operations need 1,000+ contiguous acres outside of military bases.... How many such sites exist in the US?
That would be for like an entire car manufacturing operation from raw components to finished car.
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The gigafactory in Texas took 2,500 acres.
The Hyndai plant in Texas took 3,000 acres.
Even Reserve 577 south of Crossroads is 640 acres.
BoulderSooner 06-06-2024, 03:25 PM I'm trying to imagine what operations need 1,000+ contiguous acres outside of military bases.... How many such sites exist in the US?
That would be for like an entire car manufacturing operation from raw components to finished car.
lol tinker is more like 7000 acres ..
T. Jamison 06-06-2024, 03:29 PM I'd imagine Hobby Lobby is over 1,000 acres at this point.
I'd imagine Hobby Lobby is over 1,000 acres at this point.
That's a great point.
I just did a rough measurement on Google Earth and it shows about 1,200 acres.
citywokchinesefood 06-08-2024, 03:30 PM The annexation makes a lot of sense. It is potentially a huge source of tax revenue for the city.
gopokes88 06-10-2024, 12:10 PM This seems overly pie in the sky.
The behind closed doors unreported nature of it means it's real.
The loud stuff like Panasonic never comes to fruition.
gopokes88 06-10-2024, 12:12 PM I'm trying to imagine what operations need 1,000+ contiguous acres outside of military bases.... How many such sites exist in the US?
That would be for like an entire car manufacturing operation from raw components to finished car.
Semiconductor maybe. We have the water needed, airport plus I40
It doesn't have to mean we are going after a high-profile manufacturer.
Given our location in the center of the country, interstate access in all directions, and the fact that most consumer goods come into the U.S. through the port of L.A. then head east on I-10 or I-40, OKC will continue to get big distribution centers.
I've driven east from L.A. on I-40 numerous times and on the last trip I simply couldn't believe the number of trucks heading in that direction. Almost 40% of ALL imports into the U.S. come in through the port of L.A. and a huge percentage of that is trucked to points east.
For the same reason, we would be a good candidate for assembly plants rather than manufacturing.
gopokes88 06-10-2024, 01:56 PM Jobs and economic development are always good. Excited to see what plays out
VeggieMeat 06-11-2024, 06:41 PM Put a rail spur system tying into the existing line on the north side of I-40, and you have a tri-modal shipping hub. Maybe close enough to tie into Catoosa via rail economically? (I have no idea, just spit-balling ideas)
CaptDave 06-12-2024, 09:22 AM Put a rail spur system tying into the existing line on the north side of I-40, and you have a tri-modal shipping hub. Maybe close enough to tie into Catoosa via rail economically? (I have no idea, just spit-balling ideas)
I've been thinking the same thing. It could become a scaled down version of the Alliance multi-port.
mugofbeer 06-12-2024, 04:27 PM That entire Canadian County area is primed for industrial but the land needs to have utilities installed to compete with the big Hoover economic vacuum to our south.
This mega-site continues to advance, as more money is being allocated.
As a reminder, the City has stated the airport will continue to operate as they feel like it is an asset to attracting manufacturers.
shavethewhales 08-15-2024, 02:47 PM I'm hoping its some kind of major aviation manufacturing facility. Maybe another plant for Spirit/Boeing since they apparently need to spread things out a bit more these days. That would be the dream at least. Hopefully it's not just a distribution facility or something that could have gone anywhere else.
gopokes88 08-15-2024, 03:08 PM I'm hoping its some kind of major aviation manufacturing facility. Maybe another plant for Spirit/Boeing since they apparently need to spread things out a bit more these days. That would be the dream at least. Hopefully it's not just a distribution facility or something that could have gone anywhere else.
Given what Boeing is currently facing there is a 0 and i mean absolutely 0% chance of that happening.
Snowman 08-15-2024, 06:16 PM Given the runways and other airport infrastructure, if there were aerospace manufacturing interested in the location, it seems more likely personal to business sized planes than large commercial jets. Plus there is probably more land on south of side of Will Rodgers the airport/city already owns than what they seem to be acquiring near CE Page, which would probably be more economical to build Spirit/Boeing sized aircraft give it's existing infrastructure. Plus like a decade ago Boeing sold off a ton of existing manufacturing buildings collocated with Spirit's existing major facility in Wichita they saw no need for on the horizon (the scale was something like larger than all of Spirit's manufacturing facilities).
PaddyShack 08-16-2024, 11:21 AM The part the city wants to Annex, is it currently part of El Reno or Yukon or it is simply county land that doesn't belong to a city yet?
Snowman 08-16-2024, 11:35 AM The part the city wants to Annex, is it currently part of El Reno or Yukon or it is simply county land that doesn't belong to a city yet?
It looks to be unincorporated. El Reno's closest boarder is a couple of miles away and north of I-40. Yukon's borders west of Frisco are all north of I-40.
BoulderSooner 08-16-2024, 11:44 AM The part the city wants to Annex, is it currently part of El Reno or Yukon or it is simply county land that doesn't belong to a city yet?
it already happened
https://okcfox.com/news/local/oklahoma-city-annexes-320-acres-for-future-mega-site-despite-local-concerns-canadian-county-yukon-barbara-peck-jo-beth-hamon-mayor-david-holt-urban-sprawl
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