Absolutely, we've made great strides in many areas from technology, medical and other areas of advancements. But it appears when it comes to people exhibiting rude and crude communication -we've lost all sense of decent communication. Maybe it's more present due to social media? But, it seems respect and decency in communication from Presidental candidates to day to day encounter with average people it is increasingly rude and crude. Feels like we're sliding down into barbaric communication instead of growing in respect and appreciation. It's a sad spot to be in when rude/crude communicate becomes normal way of life.

That is the world we live in today. It is a lot worse in some places. We have gone to great lengths to change the world to be like this it seems. I feel sorry for the world my kids and grandchildren will inherit.

I know it has changed in the legal world. There used to be professionalism and courtesy even between opposing counsel. That has disappeared with the younger generations of lawyers.

Maybe the AI robots will be nicer?

I know it has changed in the legal world. There used to be professionalism and courtesy even between opposing counsel. That has disappeared with the younger generations of lawyers.

I practice primarily in domestic cases, and I don't find that to be the case at all. There are some lawyers who are difficult to deal with, but you figure it out. Most of us are very professional, pleasant and friendly. I do a few nursing home cases as well--mostly practicing against large or midsize defense firms like DSDD--also very pleasant to deal with.

I practice all over the state too, so it's pretty fine wherever I've gone.

Yet I always hear about this lack of professionalism. I just never see it.

I'm pretty sure the earliest written communication, when properly translated, will say

"Young Cave Persons are disrespectful idiots."

I'm pretty sure the earliest written communication, when properly translated, will say

"Young Cave Persons are disrespectful idiots."

Haha... No kidding.

Every aging generation is certain younger people are going to be the ruination of everything.

Haha... No kidding.

Every aging generation is certain younger people are going to be the ruination of everything.

Juvenoia. A video VSauce made about it a while back. Pretty much has happened since the beginning of time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD0x7ho_IYc

Haha... No kidding.

Every aging generation is certain younger people are going to be the ruination of everything.

I've been yelling at those kids to get off my grass for 56 years.... And I'm only 55.

As more people turn inward more of the time into their own world of individual interests (via their electronic devices mostly), then when they actually have to engage face-to-face with other people and external circumstances they are not very good at it.

Where are those old politics threads and their polite, respectful and cheerful banter? :)

Where are those old politics threads and their polite, respectful and cheerful banter? :)

Surely, you jest!

Boy, that's the truth. I rarely get to talk with the kids that isn't done via text messages.

The younger generations certainly communicate differently which can be a challenge especially if you have hard time adapting. The value of face to face, voice to voice communication is critical but it's also harder for people not to mention much more time consuming. Personally I'm a lot more efficient mixing in different types. Older folks always want to talk but it's not always practical to have slow & long conversations about everything. We live in a fast world.

I also think that a lot of people are just fed up in general with the country as it is today and direction we are going. Politics is a horror show, we are completely broke as a country, inflation is very alive & well and much higher than highly manipulated data for the majority of us. People are broke, can't afford the cost of living, see the american dream as out of reach and the country going down the drain via a number of issues. People are fed up and dealing with a lot of issues. which I'm sure contribute to being rude/crude/short/whatever you want to call it.

That said we are still in OK and very fortunate. People are very nice here compared to elsewhere. All the folks moving in from out of state think it's a dream here. Funny how times have changed.

That said we are still in OK and very fortunate. People are very nice here compared to elsewhere.

We notice this and are grateful for it each time we travel out of state.

To play Devil's Advocate here.... My girlfriend was in NYC in December and she commented on how friendly and helpful everyone she interacted with there was.

Personally I don't notice it from people in face to face interactions.... It's the anonymous interactions like driving or social media.

I was walking at Scissortail this weekend along with a zillion other people. At one of the street intersections, a car stops for a red light. With their windows down, they had their stereo system fully open. The song which the car driver wanted everyone within four blocks to hear contained language that was absolutely extremely demeaning toward women and almost every other word, excessive profanity. Within a minute or so, the crowd around that intersection could testify how as a culture, crudeness has flourished. It's highly unlikely the lyrics we heard would have been so public and brashly announced 40 years ago. It's unfortunate, even a public setting, crudeness and profanity, have no bounds.

It's infiltrating mainstream media with references to "f***" and "s**t" becoming common. I've had this discussion with my son several times about common decency where his argument is "well, everyone says it so why not just print it? It's just a word!"

I was walking at Scissortail this weekend along with a zillion other people. At one of the street intersections, a car stops for a red light. With their windows down, they had their stereo system fully open. The song which the car driver wanted everyone within four blocks to hear contained language that was absolutely extremely demeaning toward women and almost every other word, excessive profanity. Within a minute or so, the crowd around that intersection could testify how as a culture, crudeness has flourished. It's highly unlikely the lyrics we heard would have been so public and brashly announced 40 years ago. It's unfortunate, even a public setting, crudeness and profanity, have no bounds.

Actually, that kind of thing *was* happening 40 years ago, I was in my senior year in high school then and we all were blasting all kinds of music in our cars then, including crudeness and profanity.

Actually, that kind of thing *was* happening 40 years ago, I was in my senior year in high school then and we all were blasting all kinds of music in our cars then, including crudeness and profanity.

I hope the young girls, which were nearby at Scissortail during this moment, won't be treated the way the lyrics were being placed in public. Shameful at best. Crude and rude.

To play Devil's Advocate here.... My girlfriend was in NYC in December and she commented on how friendly and helpful everyone she interacted with there was.

Personally I don't notice it from people in face to face interactions.... It's the anonymous interactions like driving or social media.

Yes, it's not 100%, for sure. In fact we were in San Francisco early last month on business and everyone there was super friendly, so much so that we commented on it as being a nice surprise for such a big city. But we have found that compared to the east coast, even big city west coast face to face interaction is friendlier than the same interactions on the east coast.

I hate to say this but I lived in California for 25 years and I quickly realized the people there were every bit as friendly and nice.

Especially if you buy a house and are not transient. My neighborhood had a 4th of July Block Party, a really good neighborhood watch, and a great relationship with the small neighboring college. If anything, people there are outside way more and that makes it easy to interact.

Every neighbor I've met since buying my house here has been down to me making the effort.


I think people in the U.S. are pretty much the same everywhere you go.

I hate to say this but I lived in California for 25 years and I quickly realized the people there were every bit as friendly and nice.

Especially if you buy a house and are not transient. My neighborhood had a 4th of July Block Party, a really good neighborhood watch, and a great relationship with the small neighboring college. If anything, people there are outside way more and that makes it easy to interact.

Every neighbor I've met since buying my house here has been down to me making the effort.


I think people in the U.S. are pretty much the same everywhere you go.

Amen.

I hate to say this but I lived in California for 25 years and I quickly realized the people there were every bit as friendly and nice.

Especially if you buy a house and are not transient. My neighborhood had a 4th of July Block Party, a really good neighborhood watch, and a great relationship with the small neighboring college. If anything, people there are outside way more and that makes it easy to interact.

Every neighbor I've met since buying my house here has been down to me making the effort.


I think people in the U.S. are pretty much the same everywhere you go.

Funny you mention that, when I visit family out in Southern California I know exactly what you are talking about when you mentioned being outside more. In the neighborhood I stay in there in Southern California, they have food trucks at the neighborhood park once a week and it’s always pretty busy. It’s my tradition to go at least once each visit and I’ve had excellent food and interacted with the locals, who have always been so nice. Ran into nice people throughout the greater LA area.

It does help being outside when there’s little humidity, light winds and not many bugs! We have those days here but alas not enough. Had the window open at night and my relatives mention they only need the AC a few times a year.

I hate to say this but I lived in California for 25 years and I quickly realized the people there were every bit as friendly and nice.

Especially if you buy a house and are not transient. My neighborhood had a 4th of July Block Party, a really good neighborhood watch, and a great relationship with the small neighboring college. If anything, people there are outside way more and that makes it easy to interact.

Every neighbor I've met since buying my house here has been down to me making the effort.


I think people in the U.S. are pretty much the same everywhere you go.

Neighbors Night Out in Sep really helps with meeting people in your neighborhood, we try to go every year and there are always a few new people.

Neighbors Night Out in Sep really helps with meeting people in your neighborhood, we try to go every year and there are always a few new people.

+1

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Every neighbor I've met since buying my house here has been down to me making the effort....

I try to catch you outside but timing is never there. One of these days! :)

I wasn't going to chime in on this thread, but I don't think it's necessarily BECAUSE of social media, but social media hasn't helped that people have been more rude/crude/in-your-face. My counterpart at work has recently been absolutely awful to pretty much everyone to the point I was about to abandon my workplace of 16 years. Luckily he's now in HR's hands, but it's crazy how wild people have become over the last ten years or so.

Old people have been complaining about young people's manners and culture for centuries, a tale as old as time. I don't think this generation is any worse or better than the ones before it or the ones that will come after.

Old people have been complaining about young people's manners and culture for centuries, a tale as old as time. I don't think this generation is any worse or better than the ones before it or the ones that will come after.

This is very much true. In my experience as a young person, what I've seen is that there are lots of older people who draw out and highlight immaturity in people younger than them and generalizing a whole generation. Of course it's validating to degrade someone to uplift yourself. I think if you truly don't like how young people tend to act then why are you complaining and tearing them down instead of guiding the younger generation?

Old people have been complaining about young people's manners and culture for centuries, a tale as old as time. I don't think this generation is any worse or better than the ones before it or the ones that will come after.

I don't feel the OP was generalizing this behavior to a certain generation as much as to society in general at this point in time.

This is very much true. In my experience as a young person, what I've seen is that there are lots of older people who draw out and highlight immaturity in people younger than them and generalizing a whole generation. Of course it's validating to degrade someone to uplift yourself. I think if you truly don't like how young people tend to act then why are you complaining and tearing them down instead of guiding the younger generation?

Being young is neither an excuse or a pass on bad behavior and being older isn't an excuse or pass on being judgmental. Guiding by anyone requires the other to be open to guidance. Sometimes the immaturity is the elephant in the room.

Being young is neither an excuse or a pass on bad behavior and being older isn't an excuse or pass on being judgmental. Guiding by anyone requires the other to be open to guidance. Sometimes the immaturity is the elephant in the room.

Of course

What I have noticed is you can't have your own opinion anymore and if you do your wrong. Before people didn't care. Now OMG how can you say that and they will give you a thousand reasons why your wrong and try to convince you of their way of thinking. Example If Chick-fil-a wants to give money to anti gay groups so be it. That's is their right. I don't have to agree with them. Either I don't go and support their business or I say it's their right to think that and all I want is a chicken sandwich. That's it nothing more nothing less about it but people will carry on about it and make a major deal about it.

What I have noticed is you can't have your own opinion anymore and if you do your wrong. Before people didn't care. Now OMG how can you say that and they will give you a thousand reasons why your wrong and try to convince you of their way of thinking. Example If Chick-fil-a wants to give money to anti gay groups so be it. That's is their right. I don't have to agree with them. Either I don't go and support their business or I say it's their right to think that and all I want is a chicken sandwich. That's it nothing more nothing less about it but people will carry on about it and make a major deal about it.
Yes, it bothers some that there are hate groups out there. So, they advocate against anti hate and that is their right too. When hate advocates threaten or endanger others, or cause discrimination there will be others who speak up against it. Thinking something or having an opinion and advocating are two different things.

There are some amusing comments on here.
I’ll tell you what the problem is. Young whippersnappers! No drive. Afraid of work. When I tell them I had a 1967 chevelle and a 2 bedroom house while working part time at wonder bread downtown. All they’ve got is excuses and “ok Boomer”

Yes, it bothers some that there are hate groups out there. So, they advocate against anti hate and that is their right too. When hate advocates threaten or endanger others, or cause discrimination there will be others who speak up against it. Thinking something or having an opinion and advocating are two different things.

Agreed. Simply because a person or business takes a certain action that doesn't support another group, organization or cause does not necessarily equate to hate. Automatically jumping to using the term "hate group" for an organization you don't support is, in and of itself, a form of hate.

Agreed. Simply because a person or business takes a certain action that doesn't support another group, organization or cause does not necessarily equate to hate. Automatically jumping to using the term "hate group" for an organization you don't support is, in and of itself, a form of hate.

The false equivalency is a common tactic used to diminish real problems and people that are the target.

Groups that advocate adverse and harmful actions against groups merely because of who they are born as is exhibiting hateful behavior and are hate groups. Believe what you believe... great. But to go try to create problems for others based on your own opinions is egregious. When opinion turns to harmful advocacy, it is hateful. Targeting groups based on political or religious beliefs are a gross abuse of free speech and an attack on moral civility. Identifying those advocates as hate groups is not hate, it is putting light on them for what they are.

The false equivalency is a common tactic used to diminish real problems and people that are the target.

Groups that advocate adverse and harmful actions against groups merely because of who they are born as is exhibiting hateful behavior and are hate groups. Believe what you believe... great. But to go try to create problems for others based on your own opinions is egregious. When opinion turns to harmful advocacy, it is hateful. Targeting groups based on political or religious beliefs are a gross abuse of free speech and an attack on moral civility. Identifying those advocates as hate groups is not hate, it is putting light on them for what they are.

Adverse (depending on your definition) and harmful acts vs. simply not agreeing with, and/or not supporting are two very different things. I don't think any of us have any patience for individuals/groups advocating harm to just about anyone.

People who knee-jerk react to someone who disagrees with them or has a different opinion by going straight to personal attacks or casting ridiculous extreme narratives are, themselves expressing hate. That is something that has exploded in the age of social media. You can see it every day where character assassination comes before discussion.

The false equivalency is a common tactic used to diminish real problems and people that are the target.

Groups that advocate adverse and harmful actions against groups merely because of who they are born as is exhibiting hateful behavior and are hate groups. Believe what you believe... great. But to go try to create problems for others based on your own opinions is egregious. When opinion turns to harmful advocacy, it is hateful. Targeting groups based on political or religious beliefs are a gross abuse of free speech and an attack on moral civility. Identifying those advocates as hate groups is not hate, it is putting light on them for what they are.

speaking of false equivalency ..

speaking of false equivalency ..
Do you know what false equivalency even means? Your response indicates not.

Yeah, l think he does because you used it yourself in your post. I was going to bring it up as well as you contradicting yourself, but decided not to. Moving on......

And you guys just keep proving my point. Lol

I hate to say this but I lived in California for 25 years and I quickly realized the people there were every bit as friendly and nice.

Especially if you buy a house and are not transient. My neighborhood had a 4th of July Block Party, a really good neighborhood watch, and a great relationship with the small neighboring college. If anything, people there are outside way more and that makes it easy to interact.

Every neighbor I've met since buying my house here has been down to me making the effort.


I think people in the U.S. are pretty much the same everywhere you go.

Correct. And not to disparage the home state I love as there are many kind and friendly people here, but a lot of people here are fake nice. Just an observation.

Old people have been complaining about young people's manners and culture for centuries, a tale as old as time. I don't think this generation is any worse or better than the ones before it or the ones that will come after.

True, however there has been no other point in human history where we had this much change in daily living due to technology. It affects everyone, but the young are at least perceived to adopt to it quicker.

Correct. And not to disparage the home state I love as there are many kind and friendly people here, but a lot of people here are fake nice. Just an observation.

This is so true.