Just sharing because I thought this list was very interesting. OKC/Will Rogers coming in at No. 4 and Tulsa at No. 8.

https://smartasset.com/data-studies/airfare-holiday-2024

Just sharing because I thought this list was very interesting. OKC/Will Rogers coming in at No. 4 and Tulsa at No. 8.

https://smartasset.com/data-studies/airfare-holiday-2024

Is it because, like has been said many times, the market is under-served, so prices are a premium?

Just sharing because I thought this list was very interesting. OKC/Will Rogers coming in at No. 4 and Tulsa at No. 8.

https://smartasset.com/data-studies/airfare-holiday-2024No wonder I keep having sticker shock at OKC-SFO. #2 and #4 on the list add up to $$$$.

Interesting news out of DFW - 3rd commercial airport planned for McKinney to serve the fast-growing Hwy 75 corridor. No idea what airlines they will target, maybe Allegiant or other low cost carriers?

https://airlinegeeks.com/2024/12/06/third-commercial-airport-planned-for-dallas-fort-worth-region/

I would imagine this would not be that useful. I mean they will probably have like 4 gates and only serve a few cities.

I would imagine this would not be that useful. I mean they will probably have like 4 gates and only serve a few cities.

It would be useful for those who don't want to drive an hour in traffic after their flight.

It's why I like DFW-PVU when I need to be on the south side of the SLC area.

I would imagine this would not be that useful. I mean they will probably have like 4 gates and only serve a few cities.

I guarantee there will be Okies that drive to it for the cheaper flights

Interesting news out of DFW - 3rd commercial airport planned for McKinney to serve the fast-growing Hwy 75 corridor. No idea what airlines they will target, maybe Allegiant or other low cost carriers?

https://airlinegeeks.com/2024/12/06/third-commercial-airport-planned-for-dallas-fort-worth-region/

Oh that's fun. Allegiant makes sense, but so too do airlines without a hub in the DFW region trying to eat into the market (United flights to Houston/Denver, Delta flights to Atlanta) could make sense

Interesting news out of DFW - 3rd commercial airport planned for McKinney to serve the fast-growing Hwy 75 corridor. No idea what airlines they will target, maybe Allegiant or other low cost carriers?

https://airlinegeeks.com/2024/12/06/third-commercial-airport-planned-for-dallas-fort-worth-region/

voters are shot that down once, surprised it's back

Oh that's fun. Allegiant makes sense, but so too do airlines without a hub in the DFW region trying to eat into the market (United flights to Houston/Denver, Delta flights to Atlanta) could make sense

I think Delta over the next 20 years would build out a hub, they're missing a Texas presence and Austin just doesn't have the level of business DFW or Houston does.

I think Delta over the next 20 years would build out a hub, they're missing a Texas presence and Austin just doesn't have the level of business DFW or Houston does.

I think AUS will be a sizable Delta operation - no way they are able to move into DFW and Houston with AA/United/Southwest. I wouldn't be surprised to see Delta regional flights from AUS to OKC/TUL within the next few years to compete with Southwest. Hoping we can get 2x/daily nonstops again like we had briefly when AA was also flying to AUS nonstop.

On the subject of potential international flights, VivaAerobus could be an option. They are starting service from Memphis and Columbus to Cancun.

https://upgradedpoints.com/news/viva-aerobus-columbus-memphis-cancun/

I think Delta over the next 20 years would build out a hub, they're missing a Texas presence and Austin just doesn't have the level of business DFW or Houston does.

I was surprised after we bought a place in South Padre that Delta doesn't cover the Rio Grande Valley area. I think there is one seasonal flight from Harlingen to MSP and one flight from Brownsville to Austin that may also be seasonal. When putting in OKC to either HRL or BRO, no options on Delta.

On the subject of potential international flights, VivaAerobus could be an option. They are starting service from Memphis and Columbus to Cancun.

https://upgradedpoints.com/news/viva-aerobus-columbus-memphis-cancun/

I’m still hoping it would be Avelo. They are reasonably priced and specialize in serving small/midsize and feeder markets. Undergoing a massive expansion.

I’ve been tweeting them and the airport about trying to start service out of here. Here’s the tweet!

@AveloAir look into @fly_okc

Would be awesome if you did 4 routes

OKC to LAK or MCO
OKC to CUN (@fly_okc is paying someone to come in and do international travel and new routes)
OKC to BUR
OKC to HVN

PLEASE 🙏🏽

I think AUS will be a sizable Delta operation - no way they are able to move into DFW and Houston with AA/United/Southwest. I wouldn't be surprised to see Delta regional flights from AUS to OKC/TUL within the next few years to compete with Southwest. Hoping we can get 2x/daily nonstops again like we had briefly when AA was also flying to AUS nonstop.

The Austin Airport is expanding with an additional 20 gates coming in 2030, but it was built for 15 million passengers a year and in 2023 had 22 million.

I’m still hoping it would be Avelo. They are reasonably priced and specialize in serving small/midsize and feeder markets. Undergoing a massive expansion.

I’ve been tweeting them and the airport about trying to start service out of here. Here’s the tweet!

@AveloAir look into @fly_okc

Would be awesome if you did 4 routes

OKC to LAK or MCO
OKC to CUN (@fly_okc is paying someone to come in and do international travel and new routes)
OKC to BUR
OKC to HVN

PLEASE ����

Would be great, but Avelo specializes in flying to secondary or even tertiary airports within like an hour's drive of major market airports in densely populated regions or to leisure destinations, so I just don't think we fit their criteria, I am guessing. Just look at their route map and I think it tells the story of that strategy.

I think AUS will be a sizable Delta operation - no way they are able to move into DFW and Houston with AA/United/Southwest. I wouldn't be surprised to see Delta regional flights from AUS to OKC/TUL within the next few years to compete with Southwest. Hoping we can get 2x/daily nonstops again like we had briefly when AA was also flying to AUS nonstop.

My Uncle is pretty involved with McKinney Chamber of Commerce. Delta is extremely interested in building out a hub at McKinney airport over the next 20-25 years. It'll start with a handful of flights a day to other delta hubs, but over time that's the plan. Sure plans change, but the launch carrier for that airport is going to be Delta.

My Uncle is pretty involved with McKinney Chamber of Commerce. Delta is extremely interested in building out a hub at McKinney airport over the next 20-25 years. It'll start with a handful of flights a day to other delta hubs, but over time that's the plan. Sure plans change, but the launch carrier for that airport is going to be Delta.

Interesting. That would definitely cement McKinney/Allen as the center of NE DFW.

YOY basically flat for November. https://flyokc.com/sites/default/files/November%202024%20Enplanement.pdf

Sunday after thanksgiving being the 1st this year might have played a factor as that's a heavy travel day. Seen here https://www.tsa.gov/travel/passenger-volumes 12/1 in 2024 was over 3MM pax, 2023 2.3MM.

American continues it's impressive growth. May pass Southwest by the end of next year.

Real head scratcher, SmartAsset still refers to OKC as Will Rogers World... Dated November 26, 2024. Will Rogers was rebranded back in August-September 2024.

Real head scratcher, SmartAsset still refers to OKC as Will Rogers World... Dated November 26, 2024. Will Rogers was rebranded back in August-September 2024.

Data source used was up to Q2 2024, which would have been before the rebrand.

https://www.bts.gov/air-fares still has Q2 2024 as the latest, and the source spreadsheet (All Airports – Average Fares by Quarter since 1993) lists OKC as Will Rogers World.

Interesting. That would definitely cement McKinney/Allen as the center of NE DFW.

TxDOT is also expanding 399 to loop in front or around the airport as well. Its well poised for growth.

TxDOT is also expanding 399 to loop in front or around the airport as well. Its well poised for growth.

DFW metro is getting so massive they can use a 3rd airport.

So other than an upcoming rebrand and a solid year of passenger usage, did 2024 see any other big changes? I’m trying to remember, did we add any new cities or airlines this year?

So other than an upcoming rebrand and a solid year of passenger usage, did 2024 see any other big changes? I’m trying to remember, did we add any new cities or airlines this year?

Not great…

Lost Breeze
Lost Allegiant
Southwest now flying daily nonstop to Nashville and San Antonio
Frontier is adding Orlando in March
Hopefully an international flight is added in 2025
And hopefully SFO on United

also we have a runway reconstruction
FIS buildout complete (ties with the international flight possibly being added)
retail openings

You can also add the loss of the fall/winter OKC-MIA nonstop on AA. For the first time since it launched in 2019, the route is no longer offered from Sep-May.

The industry is certainly in an interesting place right now, especially with continued delays in new aircraft deliveries from Boeing and, to a lesser extent, Airbus.

It is disheartening to see other similar-sized markets gaining routes and adding a new carrier or two while weÂ’re stagnatingÂ…despite a y-o-y increase in passengers (albeit modest). Not sure what strategy will work to lure new options, aside from straight up subsidies, which should not be necessary. It would be nice to see United provide at least one mainline flight a day to DEN, IAH and ORD. We should not receive any CRJ-200sÂ…the same aircraft type serving places like Liberal and Hays, KS.

It would be nice if Delta would give us a mainline flight or two to SLC, but thatÂ’s doubtful.

On a side note, how is it the airport has been officially “rebranded,” but the website is still showing the old name, branding…and terminal map from 2015?

HereÂ’s to new possibilities and exciting announcements in 2025!



Not greatÂ…

Lost Breeze
Lost Allegiant
Southwest now flying daily nonstop to Nashville and San Antonio
Frontier is adding Orlando in March
Hopefully an international flight is added in 2025
And hopefully SFO on United

^the OKC-MIA route is Saturdays only right now on AA

^the OKC-MIA route is Saturdays only right now on AA

Yes, my mistake. Thank you for the correction. I amend my statement to say that we lost our daily OKC-MIA on AA for the full fall/winter season for the first time since 2019. Pretty disappointing for a route that has enjoyed great load factors nearly every month.

I would also add that Des Moines, IA will have 33 different cities with nonstop service by next May when a couple of new routes are added. Not all of their nonstops have daily service…but regardless, OKC only has 22??

Yes, my mistake. Thank you for the correction. I amend my statement to say that we lost our daily OKC-MIA on AA for the full fall/winter season for the first time since 2019. Pretty disappointing for a route that has enjoyed great load factors nearly every month.

I would also add that Des Moines, IA will have 33 different cities with nonstop service by next May when a couple of new routes are added. Not all of their nonstops have daily service…but regardless, OKC only has 22??

Shhhh! Be careful, you will awaken the supply and demand monsters on here.

There are plenty of things other airports are doing that OKC isn't, and your stat just brings it to light.

Yes, my mistake. Thank you for the correction. I amend my statement to say that we lost our daily OKC-MIA on AA for the full fall/winter season for the first time since 2019. Pretty disappointing for a route that has enjoyed great load factors nearly every month.

I would also add that Des Moines, IA will have 33 different cities with nonstop service by next May when a couple of new routes are added. Not all of their nonstops have daily service…but regardless, OKC only has 22??

How many of those are leisure destinations served by Allegiant? Losing Allegiant was a pretty big blow. I know some hate Allegiant but they offered a low-cost alternative to popular places. XNA-Northwest Arkansas has nonstop flights to 10 cities on Allegiant: Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Mesa, New Orleans, Nashville, Gulf Shores, Destin, Tampa, Ft Lauderdale and Orlando

How many of those are leisure destinations served by Allegiant? Losing Allegiant was a pretty big blow. I know some hate Allegiant but they offered a low-cost alternative to popular places. XNA-Northwest Arkansas has nonstop flights to 10 cities on Allegiant: Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Mesa, New Orleans, Nashville, Gulf Shores, Destin, Tampa, Ft Lauderdale and Orlando

We know that Flint, Michigan has massive demand to PDX, enough to get a direct flight on Allegiant, multiple times a week. OKC needs more leisure-type flights like that. Or is OKC a poor market, leisure travel-wise?

https://ishrionaviation.com/news/top-50-unserved-markets-in-the-contiguous-united-states 3 of the top 50 underserved routes involve OKC. For an airport OKCs size, that is a lot.

On KOCO today, they talked to airport management and it was mentioned that the airport should be announcing an international destination shortly into the new year.

any idea when they'll update the website? It's embarrassing.

On KOCO today, they talked to airport management and it was mentioned that the airport should be announcing an international destination shortly into the new year.

Wellp sounds like I am going to Cancun in the fall!

We know that Flint, Michigan has massive demand to PDX, enough to get a direct flight on Allegiant, multiple times a week. OKC needs more leisure-type flights like that. Or is OKC a poor market, leisure travel-wise?

https://ishrionaviation.com/news/top-50-unserved-markets-in-the-contiguous-united-states 3 of the top 50 underserved routes involve OKC. For an airport OKCs size, that is a lot.

Good data find, and puts some credence behind our constant complaining about the lack of an SFO or BOS route. Interesting that we have more than Tulsa.

Good data find, and puts some credence behind our constant complaining about the lack of an SFO or BOS route. Interesting that we have more than Tulsa.

I think the thing with Tulsa, is OKC has more travelers, and this may be a strictly #s based poll.

If Boston was a hub for anything other than JetBlue, I think we could get them. I do think we get SFO back in 2025.

any idea when they'll update the website? It's embarrassing.


It's up...as of today! flyokc.com

The real time TSA wait time is nice on the front page.

It's up...as of today! flyokc.com

The real time TSA wait time is nice on the front page.

Only stats from August pulled over. Interesting, hopefully we still get them quick. https://flyokc.com/who-we-are/facts-figures/

It's up...as of today! flyokc.com

The real time TSA wait time is nice on the front page.

It felt like it was never going to happen. Looks good

It felt like it was never going to happen. Looks good

Nice update. A mobile app would be useful also.

Allegiant flights are back to from May to August to Las Vegas, Destin, and Orlando (Sanford)

Just curious - what do you people use the airport website for? I fly at least every other month, and I never go to the website...

Just curious - what do you people use the airport website for? I fly at least every other month, and I never go to the website...

We are very infrequent fliers and we use airport websites to check what food/drink options there are before we go so we can get there early enough to eat there before boarding. Since months, if not years, can elapse between airport visits, things can change in that time.

I never use the website other than when it’s posted here to look at what is updated. That’s very peculiar. I just expect things to be open as they should be. Oklahoma City should be a normal airport.

Just curious - what do you people use the airport website for? I fly at least every other month, and I never go to the website...


Changes to things like parking garage rates, any construction updates that impact where to park or get dropped off, press releases regarding new routes...and at times if I am picking someone up from the airport and don't have the exact flight info it's easy to glance and know they landed from their destination or how weather is impacting all airlines.

Just curious - what do you people use the airport website for? I fly at least every other month, and I never go to the website...

Sometimes I forget who flies where out of OKC. Depending on who I am traveling with, it might be easier to get in and out of LAW for my travel companions if we're going to need a connection anyway, for example.

I can't seem to find an at-a-glance map on the new site. It seems to just have a table of destinations served which is rather unfortunate from a UX point of view.

Some people have strong preferences for certain rental car providers. Checking an airport's website makes it easy to see if that is an option offered (or what potential alternatives are). We've had some trips where that was the deciding factor between two airports that otherwise adequately served our destination.

That said, I use the websites for my destination airports far more than I use OKC's website. I'm sure many other travelers do the same, especially when checking what potential transit options may be available to them.

That said, I use the websites for my destination airports far more than I use OKC's website. I'm sure many other travelers do the same, especially when checking what potential transit options may be available to them.

Yes, I will usually look for transportation options to and from the airport, where to pick up a bus, things like that.