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BoulderSooner
01-16-2024, 08:06 AM
Let the Ice storm Hype begin. Yeah 2021 we did have snow when it was really cold. It's very rare though and hard to do in OKC.

snow when it is "really cold" is not rare at all

BG918
01-16-2024, 12:28 PM
If there is freezing rain early Monday it will likely change over to rain during the day as warmer air begins to move over the state. There could be three storm systems that move up from Mexico next week, all rain.

April in the Plaza
01-17-2024, 12:50 PM
Ugh.

The weather in this State is honestly just straight trash imo

bison34
01-17-2024, 12:55 PM
The weather in this State is honestly just straight trash imo

Not much we can do about it, unfortunately. But yeah, the Plains suck, weather-wise.

SEMIweather
01-17-2024, 03:24 PM
Best climate in the country for those of us who like thunderstorms, though.

FighttheGoodFight
01-17-2024, 03:28 PM
Best climate in the country for those of us who like thunderstorms, though.

Insurance companies?

BG918
01-17-2024, 06:30 PM
Not much we can do about it, unfortunately. But yeah, the Plains suck, weather-wise.

But where else can you have -30 F wind chill (recorded in Nowata earlier this week) and 127 F heat index (recorded in Jay in August) in a 6 month span?

Urbanized
01-18-2024, 04:48 AM
The moon?

jn1780
01-18-2024, 12:46 PM
The moon?

250 degree Fahrenheit high and a -208 degrees Fahrenheit low for anyone wondering. But hey at least that's a dry heat and there is no windshield to deal with and you can also expect the same thing every day and night.

jedicurt
01-18-2024, 12:48 PM
250 degree Fahrenheit high and a -208 degrees Fahrenheit low for anyone wondering. But hey at least that's a dry heat and there is no windshield to deal with and you can also expect the same thing every day and night.

yes. but bring plenty of sun screen, because the sun burn you can get even at that -208 is pretty brutal.

Boop
01-18-2024, 02:04 PM
A few weather models hinting at an Ice storm next Sunday and Monday!
18571

I have to go to work so it is going to suck bad

BG918
01-18-2024, 03:51 PM
EURO forecasted rainfall next week - should wash all that salt off the roads
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2024011812/ecmwf_apcpn_scus_64.png

bison34
01-18-2024, 04:03 PM
Hopefully it stays like that. There's a dry area that seems primed to come over OKC. Lol

midtownokcer
01-18-2024, 04:14 PM
Does Mike Morgan hype things up just for the sake of it? He had the same forecast last night. This morning, the KFOR met. had temps way above freezing for Sun/Mon along with Ch. 5 and Ch. 9. Today, he's dropped them again.

18579

PoliSciGuy
01-18-2024, 04:16 PM
Not just for the sake of it, but in order to drive ratings. If folks are more concerned about the weather, they’re more likely to turn on the news to see what the weather says. It’s a perverse dynamic and unfortunately a lot of our meteorologist in the metro are not immune to it.

cinnamonjock
01-18-2024, 04:19 PM
NWS says "A medium-high (60-90%) chance that if precipitation does occur it will fall in the form of freezing rain early Monday morning, especially south of OKC."

Pete
01-18-2024, 04:20 PM
Weather is by far and away the biggest driver in local news.

Anonymous.
01-18-2024, 04:50 PM
We are just now getting into the event in the NAM forecast window. Right now looks like it is coming in colder than other models.

Here is OKC temp forecasts when precipitation begins moving in from the south late Sunday night.

NAM: 28F
GFS: 30F
GEM: 30F
CAN: 31F

Ginkasa
01-18-2024, 04:55 PM
Weather is by far and away the biggest driver in local news.

It was always my favorite part. I remember as a kid I was a fan of Mike Morgan back when he was on channel 5.

I hardly know what other reason people would want to watch the news, lol.

Bill Robertson
01-18-2024, 05:03 PM
It was always my favorite part. I remember as a kid I was a fan of Mike Morgan back when he was on channel 5.

I hardly know what other reason people would want to watch the news, lol.I don't even think the weather is a good reason to watch the news. I track the models and radar. No added drama to boost ratings.

NikonNurse
01-19-2024, 08:34 AM
I have to go to work so it is going to suck bad

Yup, always makes me wonder why I picked the medical profession (among other reasons)...open 24 hours (rain/shine/ice/earthquake/tornado/diseases in general)

MagzOK
01-19-2024, 08:44 AM
Does Mike Morgan hype things up just for the sake of it? He had the same forecast last night. This morning, the KFOR met. had temps way above freezing for Sun/Mon along with Ch. 5 and Ch. 9. Today, he's dropped them again.

18579
Absolutely he does! They all do to some degree, but this guy is the worst. I noticed the other night or recently that he and Emily were actually saying "it's a bread and milk storm so don't forget to stock up at Braum's." I thought that was odd to hear. Now i'm seeing this graphic with the Braum's logo in the top. Makes perfect sense. This is proof that they are partnering to drive up sales. This is so awful and it gets in the way of true forecasting.

But yes as Pete has said, the weather segments are probably the biggest draw to the local news.

Ginkasa
01-19-2024, 08:52 AM
I don't even think the weather is a good reason to watch the news. I track the models and radar. No added drama to boost ratings.

Oh for sure! This thread is legitimately my main source of weather and I can't show enough appreciation to Anonymous, SEMIweather, and everyone else who contributes to thread (shout out to venture back in the day!). They're the real MVPs!

I really only watch the local news guys anymore during active severe weather when its beneficial to see the view on the ground.

Anonymous.
01-19-2024, 10:07 AM
The good news is it is looking like majority of the moderate to heavy freezing rain will fall east of I-44. The bad news is anything that does fall across OKC, including drizzle, will likely cause travel problems in the early morning before we warm above freezing. This is because the ground will be very cold leading up to the event.



https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/rgem/2024011912/rgem_apcpn_scus_78.png

NikonNurse
01-19-2024, 10:09 AM
Absolutely he does! They all do to some degree, but this guy is the worst. I noticed the other night or recently that he and Emily were actually saying "it's a bread and milk storm so don't forget to stock up at Braum's." I thought that was odd to hear. Now i'm seeing this graphic with the Braum's logo in the top. Makes perfect sense. This is proof that they are partnering to drive up sales. This is so awful and it gets in the way of true forecasting.

But yes as Pete has said, the weather segments are probably the biggest draw to the local news.

It should be in the new oklahomans' hand book or in a newborn parents discharge instructions that one viewing of the weather daily should be required. :)

Pete
01-19-2024, 10:24 AM
But yes as Pete has said, the weather segments are probably the biggest draw to the local news.

Talk to anyone involved in local broadcast news and they'll tell you weather is at least 75% of the draw, at least in Oklahoma.


Remember when they'd do 15 minutes of news, 7-8 minutes of weather and the same for sports? Watch now. They almost always lead with some sort of weather tease, then have 3-4 very drawn-out weather segments within every 30-minute broadcast.

Their average viewer of local TV news is well into their 60s and those people love the weather.

TheTravellers
01-19-2024, 10:57 AM
Oh for sure! This thread is legitimately my main source of weather and I can't show enough appreciation to Anonymous, SEMIweather, and everyone else who contributes to thread (shout out to venture back in the day!). They're the real MVPs!

I really only watch the local news guys anymore during active severe weather when its beneficial to see the view on the ground.

:yeahthat: !!!!!!

corwin1968
01-19-2024, 11:38 AM
Oh for sure! This thread is legitimately my main source of weather and I can't show enough appreciation to Anonymous, SEMIweather, and everyone else who contributes to thread (shout out to venture back in the day!). They're the real MVPs!

I really only watch the local news guys anymore during active severe weather when its beneficial to see the view on the ground.

Usually when my wife and I talk seriously about the weather, I say "The guys from OKCTalk are predicting.........".

CPin405
01-19-2024, 12:08 PM
Talk to anyone involved in local broadcast news and they'll tell you weather is at least 75% of the draw, at least in Oklahoma.


Remember when they'd do 15 minutes of news, 7-8 minutes of weather and the same for sports? Watch now. They almost always lead with some sort of weather tease, then have 3-4 very drawn-out weather segments within every 30-minute broadcast.

Their average viewer of local TV news is well into their 60s and those people love the weather.

That is SOO true! It could be a day in the mid 70s, light wind, no rain and they would lead with something like "The sun is out today, but will it last?. Lets go over to the weather center for more information.." like clockwork. And the story right before the weather story will almost always be some weather related story which may not have taken place in Oklahoma.

Its pretty annoying which is why I don't watch local news except for as someone else said during tornado season I need to see what's happening on the ground.

What I don't need is seeing someone stick a ruler into snow or saying "the roads are slippery" when it snows. Well yes, what else would they be again?

Anyways hope it warms up quickly on Monday morning so the ice problem goes away.

BG918
01-19-2024, 04:47 PM
There will likely be slick roads during the Monday morning commute in OKC/Tulsa. But temps will warm enough during the day that any precip will be rain and any lasting effects from ice in the morning will be short-lived. I wouldn't be surprised to see some schools close in anticipation though - with the recent cold weather any precip, whether actual freezing rain or rain, will freeze on contact.

Depending on how much precip falls (higher amounts in SE OK) and how long until temps warm will determine how severe the icing will be in your specific location. The CMC model shows a longer duration event across E OK while the GFS keeps icing just to the morning hours.

Remember with these types of events one city could have major issues while the city 10 miles away has no problems due to the above factors.

C_M_25
01-20-2024, 07:45 PM
Very active weather pattern coming up over the next couple of weeks. Good southwesterly jet and plenty of chances of rain. Looks like central Oklahoma might be on the western edge of most of the activity, but should still get plenty of rain.

Achilleslastand
01-21-2024, 12:06 AM
^Rain is always welcome but would like to get at least one decent snowstorm a year, with this pattern not looking likely.

SoonerDave
01-21-2024, 11:04 AM
So do we have any better sense of when freezing stuff might start to glaze up.roads in OKC?

MagzOK
01-21-2024, 11:17 AM
Precipitation is out to our west and southwest moving this way. I'm hearing it should be here in the next three-ish hours.

BG918
01-21-2024, 12:47 PM
The heaviest freezing precip looks to arrive in central OK from 10 pm - 2 am. Eastern OK through 6 am
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hrrr/2024012117/hrrr_ref_frzn_scus_13.png

Anonymous.
01-21-2024, 05:34 PM
Temps are falling again here in OKC. Looks like we will be around 30F most of the night. OKC’s largest wave of precipitation is coming in the next few hours, so roads will be slick.

Bowser214
01-21-2024, 05:46 PM
Omg lol

bison34
01-21-2024, 08:59 PM
Roads are absolute crap! Be careful if you do have to drive.

Libbymin
01-21-2024, 09:22 PM
Almost bit walking outside on my driveway a minute ago.

Boop
01-21-2024, 11:55 PM
Roads are so bad on the way to work, I saw 2 wrecks one car in a ditch and one car flipped sideways, there are really idiot drivers that does not know how to drive on ice! Be careful everyone, drive very slow and you should be okay if you all need to drive!

Pete
01-22-2024, 07:33 AM
I flipped on the Citizen live cam to see how traffic was moving downtown and noticed the streetcar completely stuck trying to make the turn from 4th north onto Broadway.

Bunch of vehicles out there; was in that position for quite a while but now seems to have moved onto Broadway and out of the intersection but stalled at the station in front of RED.

(Update: looks like the street car has now moved north on Broadway).

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/streetcar012224a.jpg

Pete
01-22-2024, 09:44 AM
On all the webcams and just looking at my neighborhood streets, it seems the ice is rapidly melting.

Hopefully, we'll get a good rain later today and it will wash away any remaining slick spots.

No more freezing temps in the 10-day forecast with highs trending into the 50s and maybe even 60s. So looking forward to getting this crap weather behind us.

SEMIweather
01-22-2024, 09:58 AM
Temperatures are just about to cross the freezing mark in OKC, so I would anticipate that most travel issues will diminish in the next 3-6 hours.

BoulderSooner
01-22-2024, 10:12 AM
neighborhood roads were very bad this morning in edmond and in north OKC several cars in my neighborhood couldn't get up the hill .. hit eachother (at low speeds sliding backwards) ..

jn1780
01-22-2024, 11:22 AM
Hopefully we will get lucky and that was the worse bit of winter weather for the year. I know dangerous statement to make given that we have the entire month of February to go.

Urbanized
01-22-2024, 12:56 PM
Ver often the worst winter weather comes in February.

NikonNurse
01-22-2024, 03:04 PM
Hopefully we will get lucky and that was the worse bit of winter weather for the year. I know dangerous statement to make given that we have the entire month of February to go.

It's usually February when the ice shows up.

BG918
01-22-2024, 04:25 PM
Hopefully we will get lucky and that was the worse bit of winter weather for the year. I know dangerous statement to make given that we have the entire month of February to go.

El Nino springs in the past have produced some big wet snowfalls in March, usually on the backside of low pressure systems moving out of northern NM. These are the types of storms that can hammer the Denver metro, the so-called "Albuquerque lows", and bring heavy rain/severe weather sometimes mixed with snow to northern OK. 2009-10 was a strong El Nino with heavy snow across OK in February/March

Bunty
01-23-2024, 12:09 AM
It's usually February when the ice shows up.

February is never something to get excited about, especially for decent weather.

BG918
01-23-2024, 02:11 PM
Active weather pattern continues this week with another round of mostly light rain (yes the liquid variety) tonight and a better chance for heavy rain with some thunderstorm possible Friday night into Saturday morning. GFS forecasted rainfall through the weekend:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2024012312/gfs_apcpn_scus_21.png

Next week is dry with temps approaching 60 across the state on Monday and highs in the 50's with sunshine most of the week. Great time to get outside after the past few weeks..

Bill Robertson
01-23-2024, 03:01 PM
Active weather pattern continues this week with another round of mostly light rain (yes the liquid variety) tonight and a better chance for heavy rain with some thunderstorm possible Friday night into Saturday morning. GFS forecasted rainfall through the weekend:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2024012312/gfs_apcpn_scus_21.png

Next week is dry with temps approaching 60 across the state on Monday and highs in the 50's with sunshine most of the week. Great time to get outside after the past few weeks..Next week it looks like the Miata gets uncovered. Not something that happens much in January.

NikonNurse
01-23-2024, 06:33 PM
February is never something to get excited about, especially for decent weather.

Make no mistake, excitement isn’t the mood i’m conveying here.( Not sure where that came from?)
At my age, I remember February has been notorious for some ice storms.

Libbymin
01-23-2024, 09:38 PM
Woohoo! An excuse to grill!

Anonymous.
01-24-2024, 05:13 PM
Winds will slowly shift to come out of the south tonight, resulting in some ideal fog development conditions late tonight into Thursday morning.

Next shot at rain is going to be with the main system moving across the region Friday evening:

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/fv3-hires/2024012412/fv3-hires_ref_frzn_scus_60.png

midtownokcer
01-25-2024, 11:16 AM
Hopefully we will get lucky and that was the worse bit of winter weather for the year. I know dangerous statement to make given that we have the entire month of February to go.

This reminds me of February 2021. Started the month out with highs in the 60s. We bottomed out at -14 mid-month with 10 inches of snow or so in the span of 3 days in OKC. Ended the month with highs in the 70s. Lol.

FighttheGoodFight
01-25-2024, 01:56 PM
This reminds me of February 2021. Started the month out with highs in the 60s. We bottomed out at -14 mid-month with 10 inches of snow or so in the span of 3 days in OKC. Ended the month with highs in the 70s. Lol.

Don't bring that voodoo on us.

Pete
01-25-2024, 02:37 PM
At this point, I'd settle for actually seeing the sun for a day or two. I can't take much more of this dreariness.

Bill Robertson
01-25-2024, 03:01 PM
At this point, I'd settle for actually seeing the sun for a day or two. I can't take much more of this dreariness.

Really! I took the day off today and was ELATED when the sun came out for maybe 2 minutes. Then back to gloom.

SEMIweather
01-25-2024, 03:30 PM
The sun should return by Sunday. Saturday Afternoon if we’re lucky.

eeyore
01-26-2024, 07:45 PM
According to my Apple Watch, I’m averaging 3 minutes a day of sunlight.