I'm seeing some FB posts indicating longtime OKC DJ Ronnie Kaye was fired by KOMA for some comment he made on-air Monday, but cannot confirm. Anyone have any information?

I'm seeing some FB posts indicating longtime OKC DJ Ronnie Kaye was fired by KOMA for some comment he made on-air Monday, but cannot confirm. Anyone have any information?

According to his FB its true. He apparently said something offensive about Indigenous People Day. The tribes do a lot advertising so it surprised me he even said anything. DJs usually know you don't bad mouth your advertisers in any light. Then again he is aging so he might have had a slip or he's just tired and found a convenient way out of his contract. Also, if he said anything that was taken as offensive to Native Americans they would have had no choice then to let him go as they already set a precedent when they fired Cara Rice and Sam Mayes for their off-air conversation in the studio.

Wow...I know he is getting older but to OKC radio he is one of a kind...a true entertainer. I did not hear the comment so I won't say much more but I do wish a different punishment would have been handed out...one that would allow him to remain on the air.

For nostalgia's sake, I tried listening to him a few times on KOMA but he slurs his words pretty badly.

Best wishes to him. He's certainly had a long and eventful career.

I can't remember a time when he wasn't on the radio. The entire situation sucks, but I'm sure he was close to retiring anyway. He has to be in his 70's right?

He is like 84ish- been in the air in Oklahoma since 61.

This was posted on his FB page:

"To all the listeners who have supported me on radio through the years I regret to tell you that my career has been terminated over a comment I made on October 9 Columbus Day which is also Indigenous Day. I had no intentions of offending the Native American heritage. Some of my best friends are Native American. I would have preferred to do this on air but I wasn't given the opportunity to do so. Thank you listeners. Mr Rock and Roll".

This post is about what he said:

"My friend Ronnie Kaye was fired from KOMA. If you were listening, here’s what he said.
“It’s Columbus Day and Indigineous People Day.
I don’t know what ‘Indigineous’ means and I don’t care.”
In this “politically correct world” sometimes words can offend. That’s too bad. God bless you Ronnie!---Larry Stein

And thats all it takes to warrant firing a local radio legend from his job. They couldn't just reprimand him. Sad.

I wouldn't assume that a post about what he said is the same thing as he actually said.

Or assume a post about what he said ISN'T what he actually said. Either way, unless he said something truly inexcusable, firing someone with his pedigree should be a last resort. They could have let him leave with dignity. I guess no people, especially octogenerians, ever commit gaffe's or say incorrect things.

Or assume a post about what he said ISN'T what he actually said. Either way, unless he said something truly inexcusable, firing someone with his pedigree should be a last resort. They could have let him leave with dignity. I guess no people, especially octogenerians, ever commit gaffe's or say incorrect things.
Since we no idea what he actually said we have no idea if it was justified or not.

Just because someone is old, young, or in between, age isn’t a free pass for doing things that have consequences and repercussions.

One is not immune, even if they are deemed by terms like “legend” or “pedigree”. Let’s assume that his comment is exactly what was written above, my seem innocent to some, but to others makes them feel marginalized. In a state where Indingeous people were forced to live many years ago, he should have known better (60 years on Ok radio)

Sounds like they have been looking for a reason to move on from him and he gave them one that they could justify, even if it wasn’t that big of deal.

Looks like none of us posting here listened to him anymore. And I'm guessing we were his (and the stations) target market. So, if he doesn't bring strong numbers, and station owner Tyler Media has a zero tolerance policy for on air staff, I don't see how Tyler couldn't remove him as they did.

I have spoken to Ronnie Kaye a few times at his personal appearances over the last 20 years. He has always been nice, polite and a straight shooter. But, the world is different now, and the people I think deserve a second chance are usually someone I like. If I don't like them, then it's "off with their head!"

One is not immune, even if they are deemed by terms like “legend” or “pedigree”. Let’s assume that his comment is exactly what was written above, my seem innocent to some, but to others makes them feel marginalized. In a state where Indingeous people were forced to live many years ago, he should have known better (60 years on Ok radio)

While l understand your point, and assuming he said what was indicated above, the punishment for an old man and radio legend far exceeds the crime - ie. a life sentence for an ounce of pot possession. I've felt marginalized more than a few times in my long life but l would have very rarely wished more than a reprimand for anyone. Unless he blurted out some ovrtly racial insult or some other unknown HR matter, they should have at a minimum, given him the ability to resign with dignity. This sounds like a great case of presentism.

As far as his shows are concerned, l listened to him some when l was in town for nostalia's sake and while he did ok, at his age, his radio days were numbered anyhow.

While l understand your point, and assuming he said what was indicated above, the punishment for an old man and radio legend far exceeds the crime - ie. a life sentence for an ounce of pot possession. I've felt marginalized more than a few times in my long life but l would have very rarely wished more than a reprimand for anyone. Unless he blurted out some ovrtly racial insult or some other unknown HR matter, they should have at a minimum, given him the ability to resign with dignity. This sounds like a great case of presentism.

As far as his shows are concerned, l listened to him some when l was in town for nostalia's sake and while he did ok, at his age, his radio days were numbered anyhow.

Are you defending his assumed/alleged racial insensitivity? Kind of sounds like you are. He should be given more airtime to allow for his "resignation" because of his "legend" status, I don't think so. The last thing he needed was to keep talking on air. I think at his age he is past the point of being given a slap on the wrist. You mention "presentism" like Native Americans (such as myself) have not long been opposed to Columbus day. That has been a topic since the 90's (removing Columbus day).

Even if you think what he said wasn't that bad, if he was enough of a dumbass to say that on the air, it shows he doesn't think about what he says into the mic. Which means he's enough of a dumbass to say something worse. If you're management, you have to imagine it's in your best interest to avoid that ticking time bomb and get him off the air at once.

This was posted on his FB page:

"To all the listeners who have supported me on radio through the years I regret to tell you that my career has been terminated over a comment I made on October 9 Columbus Day which is also Indigenous Day. I had no intentions of offending the Native American heritage. Some of my best friends are Native American. I would have preferred to do this on air but I wasn't given the opportunity to do so. Thank you listeners. Mr Rock and Roll".

This post is about what he said:

"My friend Ronnie Kaye was fired from KOMA. If you were listening, here’s what he said.
“It’s Columbus Day and Indigineous People Day.
I don’t know what ‘Indigineous’ means and I don’t care.”
In this “politically correct world” sometimes words can offend. That’s too bad. God bless you Ronnie!---Larry Stein

I can hear a 10 year old child saying such a thing, but an 84ish year old? NO! I don't have to be concerned about boycotting KOMA, since I never listen to it even though its signal comes in good.

lets assume what was posted on facebook is exactly what he said and lets take it in context.... after 60 years on the radio in Oklahoma, and knowing that the tribes are some of your biggest advertisers. what did he think that not funny joke was going to do?

sometimes you have to read the room, and he clearly didn't and he suffered the consequences. there is nothing more to it than that.

Agreed that it was a stupid, insensitive thing to say, especially live on air. I'll miss him, but I agree with the termination.

What indigenous people are isn't difficult to understand but it seems spending much of your life behind a mike isn't necessarily a well-rounded enlightening experience.

As a fairly educated, older white male, I am continually amazed at the number of people in my demographic, men and women alike, who are willing to die on the hill that is "Columbus Day." The only defense of that holiday and its name is "That's what it always was, so it should stay that way."

Veterans Day used to be called Armistice Day and I sure don't see any fellow white people getting their panties in a wad over that change.

Columbus Day was made official in 1937 by FDR as a nod to Italian Americans and the Knights of Columbus.

As a fairly educated, older white male, I am continually amazed at the number of people in my demographic, men and women alike, who are willing to die on the hill that is "Columbus Day." The only defense of that holiday and its name is "That's what it always was, so it should stay that way."

Veterans Day used to be called Armistice Day and I sure don't see any fellow white people getting their panties in a wad over that change.

It’s definitely not the most meritorious of hills (when viewed against the great pantheon of hills), but there are certainly hills in this world which proffer considerably less merit in comparison.

Are you defending his assumed/alleged racial insensitivity? Kind of sounds like you are. He should be given more airtime to allow for his "resignation" because of his "legend" status, I don't think so. The last thing he needed was to keep talking on air. I think at his age he is past the point of being given a slap on the wrist. You mention "presentism" like Native Americans (such as myself) have not long been opposed to Columbus day. That has been a topic since the 90's (removing Columbus day).

Of course not and stop presenting a strawman representation of what l said. If Kaye said something "insensitive," its a far cry from saying something "offensive" or derogatory or racist. What is offensive and "worthy of firing" today was not "worthy of firing" offensive not even 3 years ago and certainly not before.

And really? You think if they gave a 60-year radio legend 5 minutes to make an on air apology and goodbye, that he would go off on some kind of white supremacist tirade? Your complete lack of understanding and empathy for elderly is really very pitiful.

Maybe do some self-analysis and think of all the tiny little "offensive" things you've said and done in your own life that should, according to today's often-ridiculous standards of moral perfection, result in your butt being tossed out onto the street. What if this had happened to your own (grand) mother or father? I doubt you'd be preaching today's moral righteousness with quite as much absoluteness.

I stand by it, unless he said something truly offensive and racist, a simple reprimand would have been sufficient.

What indigenous people are isn't difficult to understand but it seems spending much of your life behind a mike isn't necessarily a well-rounded enlightening experience.

His job was to spin hot stax of wax, tell nostalgic rock & roll stories, entertain and tell silly jokes - not be Confuscious.

I'm sure the station was looking for any excuse to cut one of their largest unnecessary costs. They won't lose a single listener over this move as people listened for the genre and not for the DJ. Who knows whether marketing dollars would have left. I doubt very much they would have.

And Columbus Day is a big deal for many Italian Americans, especially those from an older generation who can still remember a day before Italian Americans were considered "white." But as that generation dies off, the need to genuflect to figures such as Columbus for their sake becomes less and less helpful or necessary.

I don’t have any insight here; it’s been 25 years since I worked in radio. But before coming to any conclusions about whether it was wrong or right one should consider the possibility that this was simply the straw that broke the camel’s back.

You can’t fairly take either side at face value without more detailed information, and said information pertaining to an employee of a privately-held company is none of the public’s business.

Of course not and stop presenting a strawman representation of what l said. If Kaye said something "insensitive," its a far cry from saying something "offensive" or derogatory or racist. What is offensive and "worthy of firing" today was not "worthy of firing" offensive not even 3 years ago and certainly not before.

And really? You think if they gave a 60-year radio legend 5 minutes to make an on air apology and goodbye, that he would go off on some kind of white supremacist tirade? Your complete lack of understanding and empathy for elderly is really very pitiful.

Maybe do some self-analysis and think of all the tiny little "offensive" things you've said and done in your own life that should, according to today's often-ridiculous standards of moral perfection, result in your butt being tossed out onto the street. What if this had happened to your own (grand) mother or father? I doubt you'd be preaching today's moral righteousness with quite as much absoluteness.

I stand by it, unless he said something truly offensive and racist, a simple reprimand would have been sufficient.

BRO, PLEEEEEASE.... LOL butt tossed out on the street, lack of understanding and empathy for elderly *eye roll* and YOU accuse someone of a strawman representation. Your whataboutism is the only thing really very pitiful here. Pretty sure its up to an employer what a fire-able offense is and looks like they decided this fit the bill. Sorry the days of saying white ever, oops I mean whatever you want are done, actually not sorry.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2023/10/15/koma-host-ronnie-kaye-confirms-indigenous-peoples-day-comment-led-to-firing/71198232007/


By phone on Sunday, Kaye, 84, said he mentioned Columbus Day and, as he paraphrased it, said, “It’s Indigenous Peoples' Day, but I don’t know what that is.”

Some listeners on social media said that he also added "and I don't care."

Of course not and stop presenting a strawman representation of what l said. If Kaye said something "insensitive," its a far cry from saying something "offensive" or derogatory or racist. What is offensive and "worthy of firing" today was not "worthy of firing" offensive not even 3 years ago and certainly not before.

And really? You think if they gave a 60-year radio legend 5 minutes to make an on air apology and goodbye, that he would go off on some kind of white supremacist tirade? Your complete lack of understanding and empathy for elderly is really very pitiful.

Maybe do some self-analysis and think of all the tiny little "offensive" things you've said and done in your own life that should, according to today's often-ridiculous standards of moral perfection, result in your butt being tossed out onto the street. What if this had happened to your own (grand) mother or father? I doubt you'd be preaching today's moral righteousness with quite as much absoluteness.

I stand by it, unless he said something truly offensive and racist, a simple reprimand would have been sufficient.

You sure like to use buzzwords when talking to me.
Insensitive can be offensive to whom took it as offense, so don't try to justify that.
Worthy of firing (grandparents or other)- we live in a different time period now and we are discussing what should or should not be said in 2023, not the past. Have I done things that were offensive in the past, sure, but have I done them lately, no and won't. Self analysis over.
I am not righteous by any means, but I have an idea of how people want to be treated- golden rule, right? That should be absolute.

I have empathy for the elderly, but I am not showing empathy to a man that has a voice platform (that I do not) when he was possibly insensitive/offending of a whole race of people. He reports on the news, he knows what to say and not to say. Never said he would have went off on a white supremacist tirade either, and mgmt did not need him to explain why or how he meant it. End of story.

Sorry the days of saying white ever, oops I mean whatever you want are done, actually not sorry.

The irony of a nasty post like this, when discussing Ronnie Kaye losing his job over his comments, is apparently lost on you.

Insensitive can be offensive to whom took it as offense, so don't try to justify that.
... we live in a different time period now and we are discussing what should or should not be said in 2023, not the past.

Whoa, there. When was the national referendum on "right thinking?" "correct speech?"
Nobody has agreed to some arbitrary decision on what is proper to say and what is not.

I remember being taught that Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones; But Words Can Never Hurt."
I'm sorry that so many are growing up in an age that says "watch your words -- we are."

What Ronnie Kaye said was akin to, "I don't know what St. Patrick's Day is and I don't care." Would the Irish and/or Catholics have demanded Ronnie Kaye's head? We live in such a time of fear that what we say may "offend" someone. What's wrong with being offended anyway? What changed from when people agreed to disagree? What happened to "that's your opinion," and moving along? The damn near criminalization of speech is something I truly never thought I'd ever see. The whole idea of this, "times have changed," seems to really mean, "Some of us have decided that there are certain things you are not allowed to say," and the rest of us are expected to walk in lockstep. That a man can be in radio and do so many good things for sixty four years and be fired over a few words, it's just plain sad. America is changing alright, in a way that is chilling for all speech that may cross ways with those who believe they have determined the proper, the right, the "correct" speech.

Whoa, there. When was the national referendum on "right thinking?" "correct speech?"
Nobody has agreed to some arbitrary decision on what is proper to say and what is not.

I remember being taught that Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones; But Words Can Never Hurt."
I'm sorry that so many are growing up in an age that says "watch your words -- we are."

What Ronnie Kaye said was akin to, "I don't know what St. Patrick's Day is and I don't care." Would the Irish and/or Catholics have demanded Ronnie Kaye's head? We live in such a time of fear that what we say may "offend" someone. What's wrong with being offended anyway? What changed from when people agreed to disagree? What happened to "that's your opinion," and moving along? The damn near criminalization of speech is something I truly never thought I'd ever see. The whole idea of this, "times have changed," seems to really mean, "Some of us have decided that there are certain things you are not allowed to say," and the rest of us are expected to walk in lockstep. That a man can be in radio and do so many good things for sixty four years and be fired over a few words, it's just plain sad. America is changing alright, in a way that is chilling for all speech that may cross ways with those who believe they have determined the proper, the right, the "correct" speech.

That’s a lot of wah for someone that thinks people should be unmoved by words.

Whoa, there. When was the national referendum on "right thinking?" "correct speech?"
Nobody has agreed to some arbitrary decision on what is proper to say and what is not.

I remember being taught that Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones; But Words Can Never Hurt."
I'm sorry that so many are growing up in an age that says "watch your words -- we are."

What Ronnie Kaye said was akin to, "I don't know what St. Patrick's Day is and I don't care." Would the Irish and/or Catholics have demanded Ronnie Kaye's head? We live in such a time of fear that what we say may "offend" someone. What's wrong with being offended anyway? What changed from when people agreed to disagree? What happened to "that's your opinion," and moving along? The damn near criminalization of speech is something I truly never thought I'd ever see. The whole idea of this, "times have changed," seems to really mean, "Some of us have decided that there are certain things you are not allowed to say," and the rest of us are expected to walk in lockstep. That a man can be in radio and do so many good things for sixty four years and be fired over a few words, it's just plain sad. America is changing alright, in a way that is chilling for all speech that may cross ways with those who believe they have determined the proper, the right, the "correct" speech.

National referendum- people lose their jobs nowadays for what they post, say, or do based on how it looks bad on the employer. I am not a business but most businesses have an inclusion policy that dictates work be a safe place.
Funny that you used St.Pat's as your example- as I'm Native American/Irish.
Agree to disagree yes. Offend me-go ahead. The part that I am arguing for is if he said "I don't care" about the holiday which could be interpreted as intolerance. If he didn't say it then fine, let him play the same 20 songs all day and then ride off into the sunset.
Just because he has had a job longer than some people live, you are saying that this determines his outcome. That is like arguing that the person longest in the job gets promoted over better candidates- nope.

I'm closing this thread.

Way too angry and personal.