Clearing and prep has been going on this summer. Anyone know what the project is?

Clearing and prep has been going on this summer. Anyone know what the project is?

land ownership tracks to

Solara Surgical Partners
Categories
Surgery Centers

2325 Dean Way, Suite 100 Southlake TX 76092

land ownership tracks to

Solara Surgical Partners
Categories
Surgery Centers

2325 Dean Way, Suite 100 Southlake TX 76092

Yes, can't find a building permit but this owner has developed several surgical centers around Oklahoma and a bunch of FirstMed (urgent care) locations.

I should add that property is almost 20 acres, so you have to think they play more than just a surgical center, which may take a couple of acres.

Solara also operates First Med Urgent Care .

Peak Volleyball is building a big new complex on this parcel; this would be in addition to the medical facility close to MLK.

They are presently in a terrible industrial building near NE 122nd and I-35. They do a lot of private coaching, helping high schoolers get college scholarships.

The building on the left (west) is for volleyball. But I believe the building on the right will be pickleball, as will the outdoor courts. Note the pickleball building has a bar inside. Not sure about the south building; probably future expansion.

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Seems like a great spot for a pickle ball endeavor!

Thanks for the follow up, Pete!

this should be a cool development

Hotel and huge new pickleball and volleyball complex coming to Remington Park area (Hotel and huge new pickleball and volleyball complex coming to Remington Park area)

Plans have been filed for a large recreation complex at the southeast corner of I-44 and Martin Luther King Boulevard, just north of Remington Park.


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Social Pickle founder Matt Hastings will operate a 20-court indoor/outdoor pickleball facility, as the sport continues to grow rapidly.

It will feature a full bar, pro shop, and outdoor beer garden with a second-level terrace overlooking the outdoor courts.

Right across the parking lot, the volleyball facility will include 10 indoor hard courts to be operated by Oklahoma Peak Performance (OP2 or Peak), in affiliation with USA Volleyball. Peak has been operating in a smaller facility and has been successful in several of its club members earning college volleyball scholarships.

Immediately adjacent to the indoor courts, Boomtown Beach will offer both indoor and outdoor sand volleyball courts, along with a bar and cafe.

Together, pro tournaments, recreation leagues, and other events will be hosted, attracting thousands of athletes and spectators.

To the west will be an unnamed hotel, something long needed in the Adventure District to serve visitors coming to see the National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museums, the OKC Zoo, Remington Park, several nearby museums, and the annual Women’s College World Series.

There are four additional lots where negotiations are currently underway with restaurants and coffee shops. Andy Burnett of Burnett Equity is the developer.



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Yes! What an awesome addition to that area! This is huge! An idea how many rooms in that hotel? And is there a chance of a 2nd hotel just north of this hotel? Looks like that plot is perfect for a 2nd.

Awesome!

The reason I thought this was going to be a medical facility is that it was bought about five years ago by a DFW company that has built surgical clinics and urgent care facilities.

Turns out, that it's the Chickasaws. They are selling this parcel to Andy Burnett who is doing this development.

This is great! More pickleball courts will definitely put Oklahoma City on the map for a spot for larger tournaments. Also, a co-worker of mine has daughters who play competitive volleyball right now and this will be great for them. Like Softball, Volleyball is really starting to become super popular.

Having indoor sand courts will be amazing! There are none in the entire state!

And 20 pickleball courts?! Heck yes!

I think the designs are bare, but I'm hoping that these are preliminary designs. But I don't really care too much.

Looks cool, but curious what they will be able to do with these courts (not necessarily here) when the pickleball fad dies out. I know Prairie added a court at their brewery and I've never seen it used

Looks cool, but curious what they will be able to do with these courts (not necessarily here) when the pickleball fad dies out. I know Prairie added a court at their brewery and I've never seen it used

Do you think pickleball is a fad? I remember when I worked at a country club in North OKC and being worried that Tennis would lose popularity and the facility wouldn't be used for anything else. I was very wrong and Tennis is still very popular, especially with older players who don't want to keep healthy in a gym atmosphere. That same club has only expanded because of the pickleball popularity and I am pretty sure those who didn't play tennis for physical reasons are now playing pickleball because it is easier on the body. I don't think it is going anywhere anytime soon.

As anyone familiar with the French revolution will recall, tennis has been a sport for hundreds of years.

Pete: on the hotel part, is there any indication as to what level of hotel it will be? Full services? Limited? From the plans, it doesn't look like it would be limited service.

Pete: on the hotel part, is there any indication as to what level of hotel it will be? Full services? Limited? From the plans, it doesn't look like it would be limited service.

All I know is that Burnett is flipping the land to a hotel developer and I believe he said it will be 4-stories, so likely pretty small room count.

Still, it's a start and hope other hotels follow. There was one proposed for I-35 & 50th but it never materialized.

All I know is that Burnett is flipping the land to a hotel developer and I believe he said it will be 4-stories, so likely pretty small room count.

Still, it's a start and hope other hotels follow. There was one proposed for I-35 & 50th but it never materialized.

Any indication on the flag of the hotel?

Any indication on the flag of the hotel?

No, I think they are holding that information until the land sale closes.

I know that this development (well, the volleyball part) has been in the works for 2 years. They were waiting for the right location. And then got Social Pickle to partner with them, which helped with the costs, and also helps with future income (more people in the area leads to more spending, etc). I think this will be great! I do wonder about parking, though. For those larger tourneys and tryouts they will be holding, parking could get tight. There will be numerous sand volleyball leagues throughout the week, as well, and pickleball is still as popular as ever.

Maybe shuttle service between Remington or Tinseltown, but parking will be a tight fit, as that hotel will be in fairly high-demand.

Pickleball might be a semi-fad thing here right now, but I remember playing it 30 years ago in Florida at my grandmas house in the Villages (Florida) and it was busy then.
It is just nice to see courts packed with young people and not buried in their phone isolation.

I know that this development (well, the volleyball part) has been in the works for 2 years. They were waiting for the right location. And then got Social Pickle to partner with them, which helped with the costs, and also helps with future income (more people in the area leads to more spending, etc). I think this will be great! I do wonder about parking, though. For those larger tourneys and tryouts they will be holding, parking could get tight. There will be numerous sand volleyball leagues throughout the week, as well, and pickleball is still as popular as ever.

Maybe shuttle service between Remington or Tinseltown, but parking will be a tight fit, as that hotel will be in fairly high-demand.

Since this is a Burnett development and he is buying the land from the Chickasaws, I would guess Remington could let them use the parking fronting MLK for runover from the parking. And if this is successful, I would guess development could continue down MLK on both sides of MLK as there is ample room on the west side as well.

There are currently three lots for sale on the west side. The northern most property is 4.25 acres to the east of Tinseltown for $1.85MM. South of that, is 3.19 acres for $1.39MM and south of that is 3.58 acres for $1.56MM.

I wonder how far along this Pickleball complex is in the planning phase. Is this going to be another announcement with plans filed that fails to materialize like the multitude of other proposed projects in the area over the years? I feel like there is almost enough momentum to start attracting a project or investment that will draw in other development. It feels like everyone is waiting for someone else to do it first.

I wonder how far along this Pickleball complex is in the planning phase. Is this going to be another announcement with plans filed that fails to materialize like the multitude of other proposed projects in the area over the years? I feel like there is almost enough momentum to start attracting a project or investment that will draw in other development. It feels like everyone is waiting for someone else to do it first.

As you can see from the photo at the top of this thread, they have already started on substantial site work.

I wonder how far along this Pickleball complex is in the planning phase. Is this going to be another announcement with plans filed that fails to materialize like the multitude of other proposed projects in the area over the years? I feel like there is almost enough momentum to start attracting a project or investment that will draw in other development. It feels like everyone is waiting for someone else to do it first.

they have been planning for a long long time ..

this is moving forward ..

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Doesn't actually look like the pickleball complex has started yet. Those are the 2 volleyball buildings (larger is indoor volleyball, smaller is sand).

This project is set to get $1.5 million in TIF, which requires completely redoing the boundaries for the NE TIF district.

This project is set to get $1.5 million in TIF, which requires completely redoing the boundaries for the NE TIF district.

wouldn't this pull from the getting ready to be created Adventure District TIF(s)

https://www.okc.gov/Home/Components/News/News/5038/140

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Nope, they are redrawing the boundaries of the NE District specifically for this project.

This project is set to get $1.5 million in TIF, which requires completely redoing the boundaries for the NE TIF district.

Getting TIF money after the project has begun? And more TIF for more pickle ball? Why exactly?

As I've said, just make OKC city limits one giant TIF instead of picking winners and losers.

Getting TIF money after the project has begun? And more TIF for more pickle ball? Why exactly?

As I've said, just make OKC city limits one giant TIF instead of picking winners and losers.

I don't think it's just for the pickleball facility. And it is the fastest growing sport in the country, by far. And OKC is woefully short on the number of courts. This will be a very good investment, as the volleyball area will hold many tournaments, as well, both sand and indoor. Those people travel, as well, so area hotels and restaurants will benefit.

Not sure what your complaint is on this one. $1.5 million is a fart in a hurricane for OKC.

This project is set to get $1.5 million in TIF, which requires completely redoing the boundaries for the NE TIF district.

https://nondoc.com/2024/10/22/northeast-oklahoma-city-project-millwood-public-schools-tif-usa-volleyball/

the fact the John pettis is involved in OKC gov in any way (even on a committee like this ) is crazy town ..



there are also rumors that he is going to try to run for the Nice council seat when she leaves next month ..

https://nondoc.com/2024/10/22/northeast-oklahoma-city-project-millwood-public-schools-tif-usa-volleyball/

the fact the John pettis is involved in OKC gov in any way (even on a committee like this ) is crazy town ..



there are also rumors that he is going to try to run for the Nice council seat when she leaves next month ..

I talked to Camal Pennington and he said there are four people running for it and John is included in it.

I talked to Camal Pennington and he said there are four people running for it and John is included in it.

i thought part of his deal to avoid jail time was to never run for office again ??

hmmmm

i thought part of his deal to avoid jail time was to never run for office again ??

hmmmmI believe the Oklahoma County DA actually dropped the embezzlement charges against him. He was convicted of tax evasion instead but I don't think he served any jail time.

I believe the Oklahoma County DA actually dropped the embezzlement charges against him. He was convicted of tax evasion instead but I don't think he served any jail time.

right that was his plea deal ...

but IIRC part of that deal was to never again run for public office ..

Former Oklahoma City Councilman John Pettis pleaded guilty Wednesday to a misdemeanor count of failing to file state tax returns and was put on probation for five years.

Pettis agreed to pay a $5,000 fine as part of an arrangement with prosecutors. He also agreed to not seek public office again and to never be in a position to control public money, Oklahoma County District Attorney David Prater said.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/22/ex-city-councilman-pleads-guilty-to-tax-evasion/60439847007/

Pettis has a current case pending for expungement of his crime, but the state has contended that he has to wait a full year after his probation period before he would be eligible.

https://www.oscn.net/dockets/GetCaseInformation.aspx?db=oklahoma&number=CV-2024-1416&cmid=4316214

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/22/ex-city-councilman-pleads-guilty-to-tax-evasion/60439847007/

thanks pete .... any idea on how he is trying to (or attempting to try to get ) get around that??

thanks pete .... any idea on how he is trying to (or attempting to try to get ) get around that??

It may be as simple as having the whole incident expunged.

And it looks like he'll be able to do that, but it may take another year.

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When is the pickleball place supposed to begin construction?

Journal Article (https://journalrecord.com/2024/11/20/volleyball-complex-plan-includes-1-5m-tif-request-for-funding/) about TIF for this development.

"A USA Volleyball complex in northeast Oklahoma City will draw more than 3,000 people from a six-state area for certain events, developer Andy Burnett told the City Council this week. Burnett is seeking an allocation of $1.5 million in tax increment financing to close a gap in funding for the Boomtown Adventure District project. The TIF allocation is set for a council vote on Dec. 3."

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I will reiterate: By the time a TIF grant hits a public agenda—as this one did some time ago—it is 100% approved; I'm not aware of any of them (hundreds) not being rubber-stamped.

These decisions are made behind closed doors between the head of the Alliance and the developer, then often City Council and any other body where approval is needed is briefed -- again outside public eyes -- and therefore by the time anyone is aware, these things are already a done deal.

There are no bounds to TIF. We keep creating new ones and the minute a project like this falls outside existing boundaries, they are quickly redrawn. Reminder the original TIF district was for NE 23rd and the immediate area. This project is at 63rd.

It's always the same handful of people who get these freebies; after decades of development, every single project still has a 7-15% 'funding gap' that has to be plugged with taxpayer money.

I will reiterate: By the time a TIF grant hits a public agenda—as this one did some time ago—it is 100% approved; I'm not aware of any of them (hundreds) not being rubber-stamped.

These decisions are made behind closed doors between the head of the Alliance and the developer, then often City Council and any other body where approval is needed is briefed -- again outside public eyes -- and therefore by the time anyone is aware, these things are already a done deal.

There are no bounds to TIF. We keep creating new ones and the minute a project like this falls outside existing boundaries, they are quickly redrawn. Reminder the original TIF district was for NE 23rd and the immediate area. This project is at 63rd.

It's always the same handful of people who get these freebies; after decades of development, every single project still has a 7-15% 'funding gap' that has to be plugged with taxpayer money.This is unfortunate. The rich get richer...

What I dont get, isnt the volleyball facility already partially built? And this TIF money is for this volleyball facility? Did they just realize 50% of the way through they have a financing gap?

Edit: upon reading article I guess this is for the entire development and not just volleyball. Its still odd that the volleyball facility, the anchor of this development and most likely the most expensive part of it, was started and then they came asking for TIF money. Once again, just make all of OKC city limits a TIF district if this is the way.

Also, even though Andy Burnett is the one fronting this, the Chickasaws are the real money behind this development.

Also, even though Andy Burnett is the one fronting this, the Chickasaws are the real money behind this development.

This is a completely false statement. The Chickasaws only sold the land and have zero investment in the deal.

This is a completely false statement. The Chickasaws only sold the land and have zero investment in the deal.

Thanks for the correction. I confirmed this with Andy Burnett.

However, the Chichasaws still own all the property other than where the volleyball facility is being constructed. So, they have some sort of deal worked out.

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Social Pickle piled their building permit today! Super excited for this!

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Social Pickle piled their building permit today! Super excited for this!

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Filed for their their CO? I thought they are already built.

Filed for their their CO? I thought they are already built.

Social Pickle, no. The volleyball compex has been built (both indoor sand and court). The outdoor sand courts will be built this spring (already started receiving massive amounts of sand for these).