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kukblue1 05-19-2024, 07:55 AM Need another piece. A big. Lively was +26. We got killed on the boards again. With I think about 4 min left they missed the shot got a rebound got fouled. We were up 5. The made the first one missed the second one get the rebound again hit a 3. 4 points cause we couldn't get a rebound. Can't let little things like that happen against a good team in the playoffs. We learned a lot. I was ok with letting this team play it out and see what they were in the playoffs. Now that this has happen, it's easy to see we need another piece let's go get that piece.
OKCRealtor 05-19-2024, 08:49 AM Incredible season, frustrating series. I have to think the inexperience and pressure got to them. Way to many missed open threes. Mavs made the big shots and we didn't most of the series. Future is very bright. These guys will be exciting for years if we can stay healthy. Have to get some more size to be able to matchup, esp in the West. Doncic is insufferable. He should have gotten a second techincal on multiple occasions and tossed. Hope he gets wrecked next series.
Bowser214 05-19-2024, 08:57 AM So close! Just a couple missed free throws away from winning. I think I saw on FB two Thunder fans at the game
Wearing t-shirts with a pic of Donic sucking on a baby pacifier lol.
Laramie 05-19-2024, 10:30 AM So close! Just a couple missed free throws away from winning. I think I saw on FB two Thunder fans at the game
Wearing t-shirts with a pic of Donic sucking on a baby pacifier lol.
Was disappointed in how much leeway given Doncic where he complained throughout all six games.
Urbanized 05-19-2024, 10:34 AM Overall the team far exceeded my expectations for the season (no way I saw the one seed, among many other developments) and they easily MET my expectations for the postseason (I expected a fully-earned playoff appearance and also thought a first round win was well within reach). It also felt like an absolutely charmed season from an injury perspective (we’ve seen ring-capable OKC teams derailed by the injury bug a couple of times, and honestly that hurts worse than simply losing).
I definitely got a bit more greedy as the season came together; I began to feel like a trip to the WCF was possible if not likely. But sometimes reality raises its ugly head.
The sting of losing in this round was real, but I feel far more optimism than disappointment. They ran into a more seasoned and more prepared buzz saw that they weren’t *quite* ready to face. The fact that they still almost battled through that game 6 hostile environment and forced game 7 after some previous bad showings was a testament to this team’s fortitude.
Do they need to make a move or two? Sure. But they’re close. They have an unbelievable foundation and a wealth of anssets. And they’re gonna be driven and even more hungry. I’ve got nothing but excitement for the next few seasons in OKC.
Wishbone 05-19-2024, 10:36 AM What a great season regardless. This experience will help this young team. Just need to add size and height. We have plenty of draft pics left to do it. I don't see Dallas beating Minny or Denver.
G.Walker 05-19-2024, 12:26 PM You all keep saying next year, they WILL be great. You do understand that the basketball gods are not as forgiving. We are one major injury away from making anything. We got lucky that none of our starting 5 suffered any major injuries that sidelined them for the season. SGA, JDubb, Chet, or even Dort gets hurt, its a different season.
You are quick to forget the history that still haunts us today of a similar young Thunder team composed of KD, Russ, and Harden. After the Finals appearance they said we were destined for greatness, a dynasty for years to come. Then what happened? Harden left one year, KD gets hurt the next, Russ gets hurt the next and so on.
The time is now, yes you can be optimistic about the future, but I have learned that one needs to seize the opportunity now, as there might not always be a next year.
Laramie 05-19-2024, 12:37 PM You all keep saying next year, they WILL be great. You do understand that the basketball gods are not as forgiving. We are one major injury away from making anything. We got lucky that none of our starting 5 suffered any major injuries that sidelined them for the season. SGA, JDubb, Chet, or even Dort gets hurt, its a different season.
You are quick to forget the history that still haunts us today of a similar young Thunder team composed of KD, Russ, and Harden. After the Finals appearance they said we were destined for greatness, a dynasty for years to come. Then what happened? Harden left one year, KD get hurt the next, Russ get hurts the next and so on.
The time is now, yes you can be optimistic about the future, but I have learned to one needs to seize the opportunity now, as there might now always be a next year.
Good points, we should give credit to the team of trainers who are responsible for conditioning Thunder players in getting them 'game ready.'
We have the 12th pick in the 2024 draft. Another player on the level of another Jalen Williams or Cason Wallace would help strengthen our defense and give Chet some badly needed backup. Cody Williams (Jalen's brother) just might fit that bill.
Cody Williams 6'8" 180 lbs., (Forward)
Williams averaged 28.1 minutes per game, shooting 55.2 percent from the field, 41.5 percent from three-point range, and 71.4 percent from the free-throw line. He also contributed 3.0 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 0.7 blocks, 0.6 steals, and scored 11.9 points per game.
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kukblue1 05-19-2024, 12:44 PM You all keep saying next year, they WILL be great. You do understand that the basketball gods are not as forgiving. We are one major injury away from making anything. We got lucky that none of our starting 5 suffered any major injuries that sidelined them for the season. SGA, JDubb, Chet, or even Dort gets hurt, its a different season.
You are quick to forget the history that still haunts us today of a similar young Thunder team composed of KD, Russ, and Harden. After the Finals appearance they said we were destined for greatness, a dynasty for years to come. Then what happened? Harden left one year, KD get hurt the next, Russ get hurts the next and so on.
The time is now, yes you can be optimistic about the future, but I have learned to one needs to seize the opportunity now, as there might now always be a next year.
And that is why I'm no opposed like so many to give the Suns 3 first round picks, Giddy and Wallace for Durant. Hate to give up Wallace but if you want to win a title in the next 2 years DO IT Imagine a starting line up of SGA, JDUB, Chet, Dort, KD. Bench is Joe, Wiggins, Williams. Bench might be a little thin but I would still take that 8 man rotation and forget about playing 10 all the time. I would also consider trading Dort instead of Wallace. Dream world I only give up Giddy and picks but Suns will want more.
PhiAlpha 05-19-2024, 01:04 PM And that is why I'm no opposed like so many to give the Suns 3 first round picks, Giddy and Wallace for Durant. Hate to give up Wallace but if you want to win a title in the next 2 years DO IT Imagine a starting line up of SGA, JDUB, Chet, Dort, KD. Bench is Joe, Wiggins, Williams. Bench might be a little thin but I would still take that 8 man rotation and forget about playing 10 all the time. I would also consider trading Dort instead of Wallace. Dream world I only give up Giddy and picks but Suns will want more.
Really dumb. I’m glad you’re not the GM.
no way you give up that much for an an aging super star who would use up all your salary cap space and hasn’t been able to carry any team that wasn’t already the best team in the NBA when he joined. Dude has been a cancer to every locker room he’s been the leader of. Just a stupid, stupid idea for this team.
PhiAlpha 05-19-2024, 01:17 PM You all keep saying next year, they WILL be great. You do understand that the basketball gods are not as forgiving. We are one major injury away from making anything. We got lucky that none of our starting 5 suffered any major injuries that sidelined them for the season. SGA, JDubb, Chet, or even Dort gets hurt, its a different season.
You are quick to forget the history that still haunts us today of a similar young Thunder team composed of KD, Russ, and Harden. After the Finals appearance they said we were destined for greatness, a dynasty for years to come. Then what happened? Harden left one year, KD get hurt the next, Russ get hurts the next and so on.
The time is now, yes you can be optimistic about the future, but I have learned to one needs to seize the opportunity now, as there might now always be a next year.
You’re talking about things that happened after that version of the Thunder’s 3rd playoff appearance (when they made the finals) and the 7th season from the beginning of that tear down/rebuild. This was the 4th season after the beginning of a rebuild and the team’s 1st playoff appearance. If on the same clock, we would still be two seasons away from a finals appearance and this team is way ahead of the 2009-2010 team that had that era’s first playoff appearance. It also has a ton more going for it in terms of overall roster, assets, cap space and draft capital.
All of that to say, yes we should make some moves in the near term to improve the team with the right pieces if they make sense but also don’t need to throw a bunch of assets away to bring in someone who may not be a good fit just for the sake of “doing something.” Regardless, all this PTSD doom talk with complete disregard for context and lack of perspective is ridiculous and really shows how little some people have paid attention since the team moved here.
Dob Hooligan 05-19-2024, 01:53 PM Really dumb. I’m glad you’re not the GM.
no way you give up that much for an an aging super star who would use up all your salary cap space and hasn’t been able to carry any team that wasn’t already the best team in the NBA when he joined. Dude has been a cancer to every locker room he’s been the leader of. Just a stupid, stupid idea for this team.
Agree with not liking a KD trade, but this is an innocent question...Where are seeing the "locker room cancer" stories? I just don't recall seeing those on the sites I visit. Hoping I can get the info. Thanks.
PhiAlpha 05-19-2024, 02:55 PM Agree with not liking a KD trade, but this is an innocent question...Where are seeing the "locker room cancer" stories? I just don't recall seeing those on the sites I visit. Hoping I can get the info. Thanks.
Everywhere he goes, there are rumors seemingly every season about him being unhappy with the situation, wanting out, etc. theres an almost constant sentiment that he isn’t ever continent with the team he’s playing for. It’s been a topic covered by media/social media multiple times, every season since his second season with the GSW. Maybe that isn’t his fault but the talk is coming from somewhere and would be hard to believe it wasn’t from him given the way things played out here and some of the things he’s said in the media.
I don’t know why anyone would want that kind of potential negative attention and influence from a declining (but still expensive) superstar who will demand the ball like he runs the team in what seems like one of the best locker rooms in the league. What an unnecessary distraction. Get a guy that fits the culture and fills a void for more than a season or two…not someone who seems to get a wandering eye at the first signs of adversity.
Wishbone 05-19-2024, 04:44 PM You guys want Durant back? lol that's a terrible idea.
PhiAlpha 05-19-2024, 05:04 PM You guys want Durant back? lol that's a terrible idea.
Agree
Bill Robertson 05-19-2024, 05:53 PM Agree
Me too. Too old. Too much we'd have to give up. Too much of a chance he'd come in with an "I'm the man" attitude and screw up the team chemistry. Really stupid idea.
G.Walker 05-19-2024, 06:27 PM The rhetoric is always "we are one player away", "we need a big", " we need one more guy". This core might not stay together forever. Trades, injuries will happen, its evident. We are no longer in " rebuild mode" we need to go for the gold these next couple seasons while we have these young players still under contract. Once their contracts are up, its not guaranteed they will resign with OKC. SGA, JDubb, and Chet will get offered a lot of money in the next few years.
With that being said, I like Donovan Mitchell, he will be a free agent. May have to package Giddey/Wiggins/Joe, and a couple first round picks to get him. But he is worth it. He as always been a small market player, coming from Utah and now Cleveland. Seems like his personality will be a good fit for this young team.
PhiAlpha 05-19-2024, 06:37 PM The rhetoric is always "we are one player away", "we need a big", " we need one more guy". This core might not stay together forever. Trades, injuries will happen, its evident. We are no longer in " rebuild mode" we need to go for the gold these next couple seasons while we have these young players still under contract. Once they become free agents, its not guarantee they will stay in OKC. SGA, JDubb, and Chet will get offered a lot of money in the next few years.
With that being said, I like Donovan Mitchell, he is a free agent. May have to package Giddey/Wiggins/Joe, and a couple first round picks to get him. But he is worth it. He as always been a small market player, coming from Utah and now Cleveland. Seems like his personality will be a good fit for this young team.
Do you understand how max contracts and bird rights work? Those 3 are going to be max players…the max means that no one else can offer them more than we can. Few if any rookies don’t sign their second contracts with their team if given a max contract (for reference, we didn’t max out harden). Chet and JDUB will not be allowed to become unrestricted free agents…they will sign the max or be traded as restricted free agents. In addition to the bird rights exception…it’s widely expected that the cap will increase significantly with the new tv rights deal. In SGA’s case, we can offer a super max contract which is more than any other team can offer him. Obviously he can choose to sign elsewhere for less like KD did but as long as we keep trying to build the team and the team is competing for the top seed, that’s unlikely to happen…regardless we have him locked up until 2027 so realistically our window is 3 seasons until contracts start remotely becoming an issue. Moves should be made, but to act like the situation is in anyway desperate is comical.
OKCRealtor 05-20-2024, 07:55 AM How about the Wolves knocking off Denver last night. Gotta get bigger or we're gonna stay 4th best in the West arms race.
kukblue1 05-20-2024, 12:07 PM Really dumb. I’m glad you’re not the GM.
no way you give up that much for an an aging super star who would use up all your salary cap space and hasn’t been able to carry any team that wasn’t already the best team in the NBA when he joined. Dude has been a cancer to every locker room he’s been the leader of. Just a stupid, stupid idea for this team.
An aging super star that still averaged 27 points a game shot 41 percent from 3. Also we can't pay all our players now. Durant money would only be 2 years than come off the book when you have to pay the big 3. Everyone says we need a big we need a 4 well that would be Durant. As far as giving up too much we have to do something will all these picks. You can't just keep drafting players we will have too many players.
I get the hate for Durant. I hate him too for what he did but damn he would be a good fit for the next 2 years for this team. Sorry he would
PhiAlpha 05-20-2024, 12:31 PM An aging super star that still averaged 27 points a game shot 41 percent from 3. Also we can't pay all our players now. Durant money would only be 2 years than come off the book when you have to pay the big 3. Everyone says we need a big we need a 4 well that would be Durant. As far as giving up too much we have to do something will all these picks. You can't just keep drafting players we will have too many players.
I get the hate for Durant. I hate him too for what he did but damn he would be a good fit for the next 2 years for this team. Sorry he would
LOL no.
Urbanized 05-20-2024, 02:37 PM You're shouting into the wind. I'm not even going to go into the circumstances behind his OKC departure. A good fit would be someone who doesn't systematically destroy the chemistry of every team he joins. The main things that made this team - as it is presently constituted - succeed beyond the expectations of almost everyone this season was chemistry and unselfishness. Hard pass. DIAMOND hard pass.
Bill Robertson 05-20-2024, 02:47 PM You're shouting into the wind. I'm not even going to go into the circumstances behind his OKC departure. A good fit would be someone who doesn't systematically destroy the chemistry of every team he joins. The main things that made this team - as it is presently constituted - succeed beyond the expectations of almost everyone this season was chemistry and unselfishness. Hard pass. DIAMOND hard pass.It's not about hating KD. It's about him being a HORRIBLE fit on the makeup of this team. Unselfishness is the perfect word for this team. And KD, in my observation, has never been able to use that word and never will. The absolute last thing this team needs is a guy with a big ego. Whether it's KD or some other alpha male player.
kukblue1 05-20-2024, 03:19 PM It's not about hating KD. It's about him being a HORRIBLE fit on the makeup of this team. Unselfishness is the perfect word for this team. And KD, in my observation, has never been able to use that word and never will. The absolute last thing this team needs is a guy with a big ego. Whether it's KD or some other alpha male player.
So are we saying that he messed up the team chemistry of the Golden St Warriors. I think they were a pretty well established team and he didn't have any problem fitting right in. JS
Urbanized 05-20-2024, 03:20 PM It's not about hating KD. It's about him being a HORRIBLE fit on the makeup of this team. Unselfishness is the perfect word for this team. And KD, in my observation, has never been able to use that word and never will. The absolute last thing this team needs is a guy with a big ego. Whether it's KD or some other alpha male player.
And the funny thing is, KD is no alpha. He just likes to pretend that he is.
Urbanized 05-20-2024, 03:29 PM So are we saying that he messed up the team chemistry of the Golden St Warriors. I think they were a pretty well established team and he didn't have any problem fitting right in. JS
What the heck are you talking about?
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/kevin-durant-i-never-fit-in-like-other-warriors
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/report-kevin-durant-felt-disrespected-with-warriors
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/warriors-joke-about-kevin-durant-at-championship-parade
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/draymond-green-reportedly-told-kevin-durant-we-dont-need-you-we-won-without-you-leave
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/kevin-durant-media-tried-to-separate-warriors-didnt-do-that-with-lebron-and-d-wade-and-bosh
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/draymond-green-kevin-durants-discontent-with-warriors-stems-from-lebron-praise-not-our-incident
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/kevin-durant-i-decided-midway-through-last-season-to-leave-warriors
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/kevin-durant-i-isolated-myself-after-warriors-swept-draymond-green-incident-under-rug
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/draymond-green-kevin-durant-made-mistake-by-leaving-warriors
That's just a tiny sampling I could find in five minutes from a single source. Unbelievable revisionist history on your part.
dankrutka 05-20-2024, 03:52 PM Regarding KD, I think people are underestimating what it takes to win a title. This team as constructed is unlikely to win one. Adding talent in OKC is very hard. If you have a chance to add a top 25 player, you have to at least consider it, especially considering how well KD’s contract fits with OKC’s long term finances. He also already has a good relationship with Chet. If you have better options then great, but it could be hard for OKC could add a top 75 player. I’d also offer PG the max and see if he’d consider returning (also unlikely). Then you’d have to use assets to probably trade his contract later.
The reality is that it’s unlikely KD is available unless he is adamant to push his way out of Phoenix. So we’re probably debating an unrealistic scenario anyway. But I think Presti would pursue it if KD wanted it.
Bill Robertson 05-20-2024, 04:31 PM So are we saying that he messed up the team chemistry of the Golden St Warriors. I think they were a pretty well established team and he didn't have any problem fitting right in. JS
I can't believe you'd even ask this. You really are a KD fan. The GSW were an established team of veterans. Veterans. Curry, Greene and Thompson already had their own identities. They weren't a very young team like the Thunder. The Thunder still learning. Completely different situation.
Urbanized 05-20-2024, 05:32 PM I’m sorry, Dan, this KD talk is beyond silly.
Is he a great individual player? Absolutely. One of the best in the history of the game. But the NBA doesn’t play their games at Rucker Park.
It’s a damned shame that he’s such a poor TEAM player. And again, it’s revisionist history at the hands of KD fanboys to suggest he is what put GSW over the top. They clearly didn’t NEED Durant; they won titles with essentially the same lineup both BEFORE he arrived and AFTER he left.
Did he help? Of course he did. But what GSW mostly needed was for the Thunder to no longer be a threat to them in the west. Something he understood. He willingly participated in the destruction of what he helped build, directing trades (Ibaka) “before” his decision (which was made long before July 4), slow playing his “decision” to take the Horford free agency out of play, and trashing the organization, the fans, and most importantly former teammates in the intervening years.
Not to mention that it is arguable that he threw the series to GSW before bolting.
I think you are 100% wrong about Presti and the organization being willing to forgive and forget. For one thing, that would have to begin with contrition, which OKC will never receive from that POS.
HARD PASS!!!
kukblue1 05-20-2024, 05:50 PM So keep Giddy cause he is better than KD and fits better. Is this really what some of you are thinking. We need a 4. He is still currently one of the best 4 in the NBA
kukblue1 05-20-2024, 05:52 PM Regarding KD, I think people are underestimating what it takes to win a title. This team as constructed is unlikely to win one. Adding talent in OKC is very hard. If you have a chance to add a top 25 player, you have to at least consider it, especially considering how well KD’s contract fits with OKC’s long term finances. He also already has a good relationship with Chet. If you have better options then great, but it could be hard for OKC could add a top 75 player. I’d also offer PG the max and see if he’d consider returning (also unlikely). Then you’d have to use assets to probably trade his contract later.
The reality is that it’s unlikely KD is available unless he is adamant to push his way out of Phoenix. So we’re probably debating an unrealistic scenario anyway. But I think Presti would pursue it if KD wanted it.
Listen to the down to dunk podcast. I think KD would come back in a heartbeat I don't think the Thunder are interested .
dankrutka 05-20-2024, 05:53 PM Kevin Durant is a top 25 player in NBA history. We barely heard a negative word about KD in the next first 8 years he was with the team. He's the best player to wear a Thunder uniform. While there's no question that KD has had his issues with several teams now, he is still a great player who loves playing ball. You added a lot of speculative claims in your post that are unproven, which just shows your feelings are driving your reasoning, which is fine. But if KD could help this team get over the hump (and I think he could), Presti has to consider it.
dankrutka 05-20-2024, 05:56 PM Listen to the down to dunk podcast. I think KD would come back in a heartbeat I don't think the Thunder are interested .
I listen to every episode and they haven't ever claimed to have any sources on the topic. Maybe some general speculation, but that's it.
dankrutka 05-20-2024, 05:57 PM I'll also note that the players that KD had the biggest problems with have been Draymond Green, and Kyrie Irving, and James Harden. Not exactly three great teammates.
Urbanized 05-20-2024, 06:15 PM So keep Giddy cause he is better than KD and fits better. Is this really what some of you are thinking. We need a 4. He is still currently one of the best 4 in the NBA
Putting words into the mouths of others is a sure sign of a losing argument. Absolutely nobody here has made the statement you’re asserting, or anywhere close to that.
But if you can’t see that one of the top priorities in the off-season MUST be maintaining the team’s enviable chemistry I don’t know what to tell you. The Thunder’s next moves must be surgical. Adding a well-documented cancer to the mix wouldn’t be surgical, it would be the equivalent of taking a sledgehammer the team’s hard-won chemistry. Plus you’d lose half of the fan base. Guaranteed toxicity. PASS!
Bill Robertson 05-20-2024, 06:20 PM So keep Giddy cause he is better than KD and fits better. Is this really what some of you are thinking. We need a 4. He is still currently one of the best 4 in the NBA
You really don't hide your love for KD and hatred for Giddy do you? The best thing for the Thunder probably don't involve either one.
Urbanized 05-20-2024, 06:23 PM Kevin Durant is a top 25 player in NBA history. We barely heard a negative word about KD in the next first 8 years he was with the team. He's the best player to wear a Thunder uniform. While there's no question that KD has had his issues with several teams now, he is still a great player who loves playing ball. You added a lot of speculative claims in your post that are unproven, which just shows your feelings are driving your reasoning, which is fine. But if KD could help this team get over the hump (and I think he could), Presti has to consider it.
“Unproven” is a bold claim. I talked often to people not only in the organization but also people in the direct orbit of players during the years leading up to KD’s departure. Honestly I was feeling off on him for several years before he left, and often had disagreements with others about him (including friendly ones with you, if memory serves).
And there’s more to it than the few tidbits I mentioned above. He was often toxic here even before he left. People here just smiled and carried on because everyone was so invested in him.
In one case someone who I knew and trusted (who had verifiable connections within the Jay-Z camp) told me exactly how things were going to go down well over a year before it happened. I just didn’t want to believe it. His departure was orchestrated, and there is zero doubt that he **** on the front porch on the way out the door.
dankrutka 05-20-2024, 06:50 PM I hear you, and of course, think Presti would have to do his due diligence. But, players don't have to be saints—or even good teammates—to have success. There's a ton of examples in NBA history. Draymond Green is about as easy as it gets. The guy constantly got in trouble even when it would hurt the team... but he was a really good player on the court who helped them win 4 championships. While KD may cause some drama, he still gets it done on the court. Winning solves a lot of things and replacing Giddey (and unfortunately probably Cason too) would probably give OKC the best lineup in the NBA. You don't take personality risks on marginal players, but you do on difference making stars.
Again, this is all very unlikely. It would basically require KD and his agent working with Presti to make it happen. I just don't think Presti would completely rule it out if he really cares about OKC winning a title.
dankrutka 05-20-2024, 06:57 PM Beyond KD, who are other players OKC could target in trades/free agency that could really make a difference in winning? Here's guys that would make some kind of sense in free agency:
- Paul George (best free agent, but would demand a full max that OKC might have to use assets to get out of when he ages)
- Pascal Siakam (likely re-signing with Indy)
- OG Anunoby (likely re-signing with Knicks)
- Nic Claxton (not sure he plays OKC's style, but he could rebound)
- Obi Toppin (not sure he plays OKC's style, but he could rebound; restricted free agent though)
Those are the best options I could come up with and OKC is very unlikely to get any of them. We've never recruited a good free agent yet. In reality, trades are the way we'd add a player, not free agency.
king183 05-20-2024, 07:52 PM Beyond KD, who are other players OKC could target in trades/free agency that could really make a difference in winning? Here's guys that would make some kind of sense in free agency:
- Paul George (best free agent, but would demand a full max that OKC might have to use assets to get out of when he ages)
- Pascal Siakam (likely re-signing with Indy)
- OG Anunoby (likely re-signing with Knicks)
- Nic Claxton (not sure he plays OKC's style, but he could rebound)
- Obi Toppin (not sure he plays OKC's style, but he could rebound; restricted free agent though)
Those are the best options I could come up with and OKC is very unlikely to get any of them. We've never recruited a good free agent yet. In reality, trades are the way we'd add a player, not free agency.
I’d add Isaiah Hartenstein and Clint Capela as guys who would make sense and are gettable, albeit through trade for Capela. Even bringing back Steven Adams as a backup 5 could help.
dankrutka 05-20-2024, 08:03 PM Those are good ones. I would have added Hartenstein, but I think his play down the stretch is going to make him overpaid.
PhiAlpha 05-20-2024, 10:21 PM So keep Giddy cause he is better than KD and fits better. Is this really what some of you are thinking. We need a 4. He is still currently one of the best 4 in the NBA
So are we only allowed to trade Giddey for KD or…..?
OKCRealtor 05-21-2024, 09:15 AM I think I need to excuse myself from this thread for a bit now that the season is over lol.
All of this arguing for KD is ludicrous.
Laramie 05-21-2024, 01:23 PM https://youtu.be/oeoFEWNaveM
BoulderSooner 05-21-2024, 01:31 PM https://youtu.be/oeoFEWNaveM
lol no
OKCisOK4me 05-21-2024, 01:42 PM lol no
So who do you believe would be the best center for the Thunder organization?
BoulderSooner 05-21-2024, 01:44 PM So who do you believe would be the best center for the Thunder organization?
chet ... look for them to bring in a power forward .. IF they make a trade
Laramie 05-21-2024, 02:01 PM chet ... look for them to bring in a power forward .. IF they make a trade
Any specific suggestions on who that power forward might be.
FighttheGoodFight 05-21-2024, 02:20 PM Lauri is the dream trade for me personally.
BoulderSooner 05-21-2024, 02:39 PM Any specific suggestions on who that power forward might be.
If I were running the Thunder (or a thunder fan for that matter) I would do every thing possible to trade for Jonathan Isaac
he fits everything the thunder need as a starting / bench 4 man .. elite defender capable shooter .. and good rebounder ..
FighttheGoodFight 05-21-2024, 04:17 PM If I were running the Thunder (or a thunder fan for that matter) I would do every thing possible to trade for Jonathan Isaac
he fits everything the thunder need as a starting / bench 4 man .. elite defender capable shooter .. and good rebounder ..
I don't think he could start but maybe off the bench. His big flaw is the injury history, can't really stay on the floor.
Laramie 05-21-2024, 04:19 PM If I were running the Thunder (or a thunder fan for that matter) I would do every thing possible to trade for Jonathan Isaac
he fits everything the thunder need as a starting / bench 4 man .. elite defender capable shooter .. and good rebounder ..
https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/4065654.png&w=350&h=254
Jonathan Isaac,
HT/WT - 6' 10", 230 lbs - 3 Point % - 34.1 - FG% 44.9
Gotta give it up to you BoulderSooner, Isaac needs to be given consideration if he's available.
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PhiAlpha 05-22-2024, 11:52 AM So who do you believe would be the best center for the Thunder organization?
not a guy that is useless outside of the restricted area.
ideal big is another 4/5 long stretch player that can rebound and is a thread from inside and beyond the arc.
JV is good but doesn’t fit what they’re doing unless they radically change their offense…which if they were actually interested in doing, they would’ve done it at the trade deadline and picked up someone like Gafford
PhiAlpha 05-22-2024, 11:52 AM chet ... look for them to bring in a power forward .. IF they make a trade
this
PhiAlpha 05-22-2024, 11:53 AM Lauri is the dream trade for me personally.
this would be awesome if it’s possible.
G.Walker 05-22-2024, 12:09 PM Can we just get Steven Adams back, and we will be set, lol.
PhiAlpha 05-22-2024, 12:36 PM Can we just get Steven Adams back, and we will be set, lol.
Did he learn to shoot threes or anything outside the restricted area? If not, how would he be any different than JV?
G.Walker 05-22-2024, 12:54 PM Did he learn to shoot threes or anything outside the restricted area? If not, how would he be any different than JV?
We don't need him to score, scoring is not our problem, rebounding is. We have enough scorers, we just need him to bang down in the paint, and grab rebounds.
PhiAlpha 05-22-2024, 03:47 PM We don't need him to score, scoring is not our problem, rebounding is. We have enough scorers, we just need him to bang down in the paint, and grab rebounds.
yes…they do want someone who can score from the outside and spread the floor…that’s why they didn’t pick up any of the big men that people (who don’t know what they’re talking about) were yelling for them to at the trade deadline. Saying “we need rebounds, not scoring” is way too simple of way to look at it. Did you notice how scoring often dried up when Giddey was on the floor this series? Signing a big that can’t shoot would look like that except that at least Giddey is somewhat of a threat from outside the paint.
They aren’t going to pick up a center or power forward that is only an inside player. They are not going to sign anyone like who plays like Steven Adams, JV, or any other big that doesn’t spread the floor.
Laramie 05-22-2024, 03:55 PM We don't need him to score, scoring is not our problem, rebounding is. We have enough scorers, we just need him to bang down in the paint, and grab rebounds.
IMO you're correct. Dallas killed us with second and third chances to knock down three's; that was the difference where the Mavs won two of the three games played in our arena.
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