Supposed 2 billion dollar theme park coming to Vinita.

We'll see. Wish them well.

https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/2b-theme-park-similar-to-disneyland-planned-for-vinita/article_b4d7e374-24bb-11ee-997d-8343bdab83d0.html

How to alienate 65% of the state's population: putting this 30 miles from the Missouri border.

Good luck to them, but putting this between Tulsa and OKC would be so much better, for everyone.

How to alienate 65% of the state's population: putting this 30 miles from the Missouri border.

Good luck to them, but putting this between Tulsa and OKC would be so much better, for everyone.

I'm not saying it will ever be built, but the idea is to be in the Grand Lake area.

Hurts to admit, but demographics north and east of Tulsa are more appealing financially than west. It’s not a bad business decision.

Hurts to admit, but demographics north and east of Tulsa are more appealing financially than west. It’s not a bad business decision.

Yep. This location puts it closer to NW Arkansas, Joplin, Springfield, and Kansas City. Equidistant to Wichita and Tulsa.

Cute little model of the park:
https://twitter.com/kolbyratigan/status/1681692240496975878?s=20

Skeptical that this ever gets built, but it would be really cool if it did.

Has anyone seen the news about this. This 2 billion dollar project if it becomes reality will put oklahoma on the map for Theme Park entertainment destination

I had a roommate in college (at KU) and he was from Phoenix and his parents had a lake house on Grand.

Yeah honestly I've started rolling my eyes at anything East of Tulsa because I know the intent is not for me, the OKC resident, but for residents in the Four-State region. Definitely makes me a little sour, but I'd still probably go at least once to check it out if it gets built.

I love the incorporation of Route 66, I think the state should be maximizing the centennial.

That is wild, good for Tulsa. $2 billion is a serious park.

Tried to link the image here, but it isn't very friendly.

https://mms.businesswire.com/media/20230719039822/en/1844951/5/Aerial_of_American_Heartland_Theme_Park.jpeg.jpg

It looks like the ownership group is based out of Branson, MO. That probably has something to do with the proposed location as well.

Well they have some well know names behind it. A former long time Disney engineer and also a person who developed Universal theme parks in Florida both of them just announced they are apart of this project that has been secretly in development along with names unknown but almost 2 dozen former Disney engineers are apart of this project. This will be interesting.

Great news for Tulsa MSA, this will be a game-changer. All of NE Oklahoma will embrace this along with tourists throughout the country. It will be Big League and awesome.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1681684537766559745

GO T-TOWN!

It looks like the ownership group is based out of Branson, MO. That probably has something to do with the proposed location as well.

My immediate thought was this reminds me of Branson. Seems like direct competition and they'd be pretty close by. Doesn't make sense.

Yeah I wouldn’t knock this. That was my first instinct as well but there are some pretty reputable groups behind it and yes, it being close to Grand Lake is probably the key. Ton of money up there and it’s already a multistate destination drawing people from all over OK, AR, MO, KS and to a lesser extent TX and LA. Not a bad spot for this at all. Probably the best in the state outside of the Texas border. Less than an hour from Tulsa international as well.

As something comparable…who would’ve thought Branson would turn into a massive family destination when that whole thing started. Nearby casinos and the ability for the Cherokee nation to build one closer doesn’t hurt anything either. Pretty sure that’s not an option in Branson.

Well now I know why lately Tulsa has been in such a hurry to turn into a international airport as soon as possible. Never understood why the hurry but this make sense because with the theme park name they will probably advertise in other countries to visit and see all of America in one theme park

^^lol, it's a group that owns a small theatre in Branson. Not really that reputable to be suddenly announcing a Disney-level investment in an almost random spot in Oklahoma.

^TUL is adding an international gate so people can get to Cancun easily, not for this.

I've heard this one before. Developers with no connection to the theme park industry making a splash by promising billions of dollar poured into a vague concept in the middle of nowhere. Last time was down in Texas and Muscle Shoals AL for a confusing two park pitch: https://attractionsmagazine.com/exclusive-dreamvision-theme-park-plans-become-a-nightmare/

There are several other examples. Grand Texas was a more legit theme park/resort/outlet mall proposal that resulted in just a water park and an RV campground after years of effort - and I consider that pretty good, all things considered. Getting something like this off the ground is not easy.

If you had $2 billion, where would you invest it? Even if your heart is set on a resort, why Vinita? Wouldn't you want to be closer to an airport and existing destinations? Grand Lake gets some traffic, but not that much. With this money, you could move in on Branson and easily compete with SDC - and Branson has an airport that is hardly being used. You could also build down on the coast, or anywhere else that gets traffic already. Why would they pick Vinita other than it being cheap, which shouldn't matter if they actually have access to $2 billion.

This just seems odd, especially so close to Branson. I'll take things that will never happen for $100 please.

https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/2b-theme-park-similar-to-disneyland-planned-for-vinita/article_b4d7e374-24bb-11ee-997d-8343bdab83d0.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_tulsaworld

^^lol, it's a group that owns a small theatre in Branson. Not really that reputable to be suddenly announcing a Disney-level investment in an almost random spot in Oklahoma.

^TUL is adding an international gate so people can get to Cancun easily, not for this.

I've heard this one before. Developers with no connection to the theme park industry making a splash by promising billions of dollar poured into a vague concept in the middle of nowhere. Last time was down in Texas and Muscle Shoals AL for a confusing two park pitch: https://attractionsmagazine.com/exclusive-dreamvision-theme-park-plans-become-a-nightmare/

There are several other examples. Grand Texas was a more legit theme park/resort/outlet mall proposal that resulted in just a water park and an RV campground after years of effort - and I consider that pretty good, all things considered. Getting something like this off the ground is not easy.

If you had $2 billion, where would you invest it? Even if your heart is set on a resort, why Vinita? Wouldn't you want to be closer to an airport and existing destinations? Grand Lake gets some traffic, but not that much. With this money, you could move in on Branson and easily compete with SDC - and Branson has an airport that is hardly being used. You could also build down on the coast, or anywhere else that gets traffic already. Why would they pick Vinita other than it being cheap, which shouldn't matter if they actually have access to $2 billion.

A bunch of good reasons not to throw another park in Branson. Can build casinos near it, closer to texas and closer to a decent sized metro, no competition from a bunch of other attractions in a Branson which is even more in the middle of nowhere than Vinita, easier access to a major interstate, closer access to a large airport, more flat and open space, and as far as being in the middle of the country…less competition from other types of entertainment and drivable from most of the country.

Not saying it’s going to happen but it’s also not as stupid of an idea as you’re making it out to be.

Press release:

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American Heartland Announces $2 Billion Theme Park and Resort Development in Northeast Oklahoma
The 1,000-acre resort destination is expected to attract more than 4.9 million guests per year to VINITA, Okla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Today Oklahoma state and local officials joined American Heartland leadership to announce American Heartland Theme Park and Resort, a more than $2 billion entertainment destination development in northeast Oklahoma, just west of Grand Lake on Route 66. The development will be built in phases starting with a large-scale RV park with cabins scheduled to open phase one in spring 2025 and a world-class theme park and resort scheduled to open in 2026. The American Heartland Theme Park and Resort will offer a unique visitor experience rivaling the world’s top resort destinations.

“We are thrilled to make Oklahoma the home of American Heartland Theme Park and Resort,” American Heartland CEO Larry Wilhite said. “At the crossroads of the heartland, Oklahoma is an attractive location for a family entertainment destination. The state’s business-friendly approach and innovative partnership efforts have helped make this possible. We look forward to bringing unforgettable generational experiences to Oklahoma.”

American Heartland will be a 1,000-acre development with a 125-acre theme park, which is comparable to the size of Magic Kingdom® Theme Park and Disneyland® Park. The park will feature an Americana-themed environment with a variety of entertaining rides, live shows, family attractions, waterways as well as restaurant-quality food and beverage offerings.

“Oklahoma is excited to welcome American Heartland Theme Park and Resort,” Oklahoma State Rep. Rusty Cornwell said. “Located on historic Route 66 just west of Grand Lake, the development will attract visitors from around the world to experience and celebrate the rich cultures and hometown values America has to offer.”

The adjacent 320-acre Three Ponies RV Park and Campground, designed by Oklahoma architects ADG Blatt, will be the largest campground in the central U.S. with 750 RV spaces and 300 cabins plus amenities.

“There’s no better place to represent the heart of America than northeast Oklahoma,” said Oklahoma State Sen. Micheal Bergstrom. “This $2 billion investment in our state will create more than 4,000 jobs and introduce a new category of entertainment to the region, and its long-term economic impact will be transformative. Tourism is already one of Oklahoma’s top industries and this project will elevate our state even further. Since tourism is a doorway to economic development, American Heartland Theme Park and Resort will draw new businesses not only to the surrounding area but also throughout the region and state.”

The developer is American Heartland whose leadership has deep Oklahoma roots. American Heartland is an affiliate of Mansion Entertainment Group, LLC, Branson’s leading performing arts, animation and studio brand.

Led by Executive Producer Steve Hedrick, the design team is made up of the world’s best theme park designers including 20+ former Disney Parks builders and Walt Disney Imagineers. Design firms include THG, FORREC and Cuningham, whose portfolios feature the world’s foremost theme park brands including Six Flags, Disney Parks and Universal Studios.

“We are pleased that American Heartland Theme Park and Resort has taken the first step and chosen Oklahoma to build a world-class entertainment destination,” said Hopper Smith, interim director of the Oklahoma Department of Commerce. “We look forward to assisting with this project as it develops.”

American Heartland Theme Park and Resort is a family-friendly park promising timeless fun and boundless adventure. The 125-acre theme park will feature a collection of six distinctly American lands to welcome guests on a journey through the best of the American story. Families will find thrilling rides and heartwarming shows as they discover Great Plains, Bayou Bay, Big Timber Falls, Stony Point Harbor, Liberty Village and Electropolis.

“American Heartland will be a place families can come together to create lasting memories, experience joy, laughter, imagination and wonder,” American Heartland Founder and Chief Creative Officer Gene Bicknell said. “There is so much to celebrate about our country: its landscapes, its cultures and most importantly, its people. No matter where you’re from, you’ll feel right at home at American Heartland.”

The development will also include a top-tier 300-room hotel and modern indoor water park.

“American Heartland will be an anchor tourist destination on Route 66 set to attract more than two million out-of-state visitors to Oklahoma each year,” Kristy Adams, senior executive vice president of sales and marketing for Mansion Entertainment Group, American Heartland and Three Ponies, said. “The scale and quality of the development will be unlike anything else in the region, making Vinita, Oklahoma a can’t-miss destination for families around the world.”

Learn more at americanheartlandthemepark.com and threeponiesrvparkandcampground.com.

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Would love for some people smarter than myself to offer up their opinions on whether this or the OKC amphitheater is more likely to be built. (Not sarcasm, I really am curious.)

Would love for some people smarter than myself to offer up their opinions on whether this or the OKC amphitheater is more likely to be built. (Not sarcasm, I really am curious.)

The RV Park for this thing may be built. Eventually.

Would love for some people smarter than myself to offer up their opinions on whether this or the OKC amphitheater is more likely to be built. (Not sarcasm, I really am curious.)

The amphitheater will be built. I think that is reasonably certain.

Would love for some people smarter than myself to offer up their opinions on whether this or the OKC amphitheater is more likely to be built. (Not sarcasm, I really am curious.)

I'd go with whatever project Rainey Williams was working on.

Would love for some people smarter than myself to offer up their opinions on whether this or the OKC amphitheater is more likely to be built. (Not sarcasm, I really am curious.)

I don’t see either being built (for different reasons) but I sure hope I’m wrong.

Why do I get the feeling that this is going to be the "conservative," "Murica" answer to Disney? And theme parks go down the rabbit hole of athletic shoes and movies and news networks and everything else that is cleaving into red and blue. I've been to Branson and this certainly does have that vibe to it, which makes me wonder why it's not just being built in Branson in the first place.

OK. All snark aside. I'm all for economic development. If this happens it will be good for the state from a tax dollar point of view, so you can't help but like that. It should bring travelers to Grand Lake which will help that region, and provide entry-level jobs for a lot of small-town kids. Again, that's good. So bring it on.

I'm more excited about the concert amphitheater for OKC, though.

Why do I get the feeling that this is going to be the "conservative," "Murica" answer to Disney? And theme parks go down the rabbit hole of athletic shoes and movies and news networks and everything else that is cleaving into red and blue. I've been to Branson and this certainly does have that vibe to it, which makes me wonder why it's not just being built in Branson in the first place.

OK. All snark aside. I'm all for economic development. If this happens it will be good for the state from a tax dollar point of view, so you can't help but like that. It should bring travelers to Grand Lake which will help that region, and provide entry-level jobs for a lot of small-town kids. Again, that's good. So bring it on.

I'm more excited about the concert amphitheater for OKC, though.

Interesting comment considering the Mayor of Vinita is very conservative and pro gun. Was endorsed by Nathan Dahm

Here's a video by 360GrandLake.com of the EXTREMELY hokey presentation in Vinita earlier today lol. Once you get past the awkward singing, there's a corny presentation of the park concept and more information about the plan.

https://fb.watch/lTV9fkXjKH/

Definitely seems like a Murica Disney World..which is awesome lol.

I think the most likely thing to get built is the RV Park of this project. I search for cheap land in my spare time, and a couple months ago I was looking in this part of the state, around Grand Lake specifically and I saw an interesting conversation about the area. It was someone that just moved to the area and asking where they should buy, typical stuff. But in one reply to another reply I saw some mention a big RV park coming to the area, that might later be associated with a bigger project.

This didn't mean much to me at the time, but seeing this project today makes me think someone knew something, when they made that comment. It definitely was a friend is a realtor kind of deal, so quite possible they just got wind of this press release early, but it's also possible there has been more serious movement behind the scenes.

This is certainly odd. No announcement that I've seen or been able to find from the Governor, Lt. Governor (who handles big economic development matters), the Oklahoma Department of Commerce, etc. No mention on their social media pages either. Did they even know? For a project of this magnitude, I would expect major announcements from them.

It looks like only Vinita, OK knew about this deal. They lost the McDonalds over the interstate, but got a 2 billion dollar theme park.

Here's a video by 360GrandLake.com of the EXTREMELY hokey presentation in Vinita earlier today lol. Once you get past the awkward singing, there's a corny presentation of the park concept and more information about the plan.

https://fb.watch/lTV9fkXjKH/

Definitely seems like a Murica Disney World..which is awesome lol.

"We have spirituality as our incentive... "
"As you heard, he is a Patriot, a state's man. They are a faith-based company. They are patriotic."

"I can promise you one thing, you do not have to worry about what type of... element .. will be brought in here"


Yea, this does not sound like a place that would be welcoming of me and my family - so if it gets built, we will probably not be going for a while until other people can figure out how welcoming it would be.

"We have spirituality as our incentive... "
"As you heard, he is a Patriot, a state's man. They are a faith-based company. They are patriotic."

"I can promise you one thing, you do not have to worry about what type of... element .. will be brought in here"


Yea, this does not sound like a place that would be welcoming of me and my family - so if it gets built, we will probably not be going for a while until other people can figure out how welcoming it would be.

Thank you for making that very necessary announcement to the group LOL.

The RV Park for this thing may be built. Eventually.
That still looks like a pretty nice RV park.

Regardless, and I say this from a biased POV being from the 405, I feel like this will happen. And I’m happy for you guys. A theme park in this area would be a hit just for regional crowd. Brandon is its own thing entirely. I don’t think Silver Dollar City is the only reason people go to Branson.

It looks like only Vinita, OK knew about this deal. They lost the McDonalds over the interstate, but got a 2 billion dollar theme park.

By lost do you mean they renovated it, including the McDonalds, and added additional restaurants?

The McDonalds is still there and the travel plaza is about 1000x nicer than it was a few years ago.

"We have spirituality as our incentive... "
"As you heard, he is a Patriot, a state's man. They are a faith-based company. They are patriotic."

"I can promise you one thing, you do not have to worry about what type of... element .. will be brought in here"


Yea, this does not sound like a place that would be welcoming of me and my family - so if it gets built, we will probably not be going for a while until other people can figure out how welcoming it would be.

They actually said that? Amazing. Or maybe not so amazing.

"We have spirituality as our incentive... "
"As you heard, he is a Patriot, a state's man. They are a faith-based company. They are patriotic."

"I can promise you one thing, you do not have to worry about what type of... element .. will be brought in here"


Yea, this does not sound like a place that would be welcoming of me and my family - so if it gets built, we will probably not be going for a while until other people can figure out how welcoming it would be.

Gooood grief, the amount of dog whistles in that presentation....yikes. This is looking more and more like a monument to red state stereotypes.

The presentation said they estimated that the development would bring 4.9 million people per year to Northeast Oklahoma and 2 million of those would be from out of state. Does that mean they are expecting 2.9 million Oklahomans to visit the park every single year? That's over 70% of the total population. Am I misunderstanding what they are saying?

Gooood grief, the amount of dog whistles in that presentation....yikes. This is looking more and more like a monument to red state stereotypes.

Sounds a lot like politicians trying to minimize opposition to a project in a place in which a good percentage of the population is conservative and over the age of 50.

SHOCKING LOL.

Thank you for making that very necessary announcement to the group LOL.

Is it not relevant that given the well-worn coded language and dog whistling going on in their announcement that many people may not feel welcomed there by even the park ownership itself, nevermind the other visitors? If this ends up being an overt aspect of the park—and given some of the people endorsing it it seems likely to be—it will do nothing to help Oklahoma's image on the national stage.

Well that's gross. Please tell me they didn't ACTUALLY say that?



Edit - ope, my quote didn't work. This is in regards to the quote of


"We have spirituality as our incentive... "
"As you heard, he is a Patriot, a state's man. They are a faith-based company. They are patriotic."

"I can promise you one thing, you do not have to worry about what type of... element .. will be brought in here"

By lost do you mean they renovated it, including the McDonalds, and added additional restaurants?

The McDonalds is still there and the travel plaza is about 1000x nicer than it was a few years ago.

It isn't a landmark anymore. Yes the interior is obviously updated, but these are not the same.

https://i.redd.it/niyqwg0vvba51.jpg

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Is it not relevant that given the well-worn coded language and dog whistling going on in their announcement that many people may not feel welcomed there by even the park ownership itself, nevermind the other visitors? If this ends up being an overt aspect of the park—and given some of the people endorsing it it seems likely to be—it will do nothing to help Oklahoma's image on the national stage.

Bingo. Probably not a great idea to start off a $2b investment by deterring a significant segment of the population to ever show up.

E: \/\/ Just ignore him, his whole posting style relies on strawmen arguments and namecalling.

Bingo. Probably not a great idea to start off a $2b investment by deterring a significant segment of the population to ever show up.

E: \/\/ Just ignore him, his whole posting style relies on strawmen arguments and namecalling.

I see someone is still bent out of shape that I called him a fair weather sports fan for being a Thunder fan only when it's convenient.

Could just as easily say it's worth ignoring you since you take the furthest left position on every topic and spam arena threads with your obsessive thoughts on how greedy team owners shouldn't ask the city to build them an arena and unsubstantiated claims about the Thunder's lack of value to OKC. You're nearing troll level.

Well that's gross. Please tell me they didn't ACTUALLY say that?



Edit - ope, my quote didn't work. This is in regards to the quote of


"We have spirituality as our incentive... "
"As you heard, he is a Patriot, a state's man. They are a faith-based company. They are patriotic."

"I can promise you one thing, you do not have to worry about what type of... element .. will be brought in here"

The only part of the quote that may be slightly off was the "he is a Patriot," I should have put "[he] is a Patriot." The speaker said the person's name, but I couldn't make it out. The speaker was talking about one of the people on the board / group heading this project based on their gesture to the person.

And yes, there was the pause around the word "element" as well.

It isn't a landmark anymore. Yes the interior is obviously updated, but these are not the same.

https://i.redd.it/niyqwg0vvba51.jpg

https://ghosty-production.s3.amazonaws.com/fotospot_spots/c6ec229bf6d5645dbb26b0ea5476d6ed/medium.jpg

It's not a monument to McDonald's anymore but it is WAY nicer. How exactly did Vinita lose the McDonalds? lol

Hate to say it, but I can't imagine this gets built. I see them getting investors, maybe some big subsidies from the state and then paying themselves some dividends, declaring bankrupty and calling it a day. There are many better places to build something like this which actually have the infrastructure to support it. Near any major metropolitan area in Texas, for example.

That said, it's an opportunity missed not building this in Disney, OK.

Could we please get off yet another political debate???

I'm going to start banning people -- this is ridiculous and I'm tired of it.

Go look up the Mansion theatre in Branson. LOL. It's a weirdly positioned theatre in the back part of Branson. They have a "shrine" in front dedicated to the "holy spirit" that looks like a giant retaining wall with a gift shop. They have like six businesses listed on their website related to the Mansion (what a weird branding choice), but most of them have very little to show. Their big animation company is showcasing some sort of unspecified dreamworks-looking movie featuring what seems to be THEIR FOUNDER as a young man and his relationship with his wife. Just a very weird vibe around this company. Feels like a rich old guy throwing his money around in his grey years trying to force a media empire out of nothing. Like he wants to be Walt Disney but he doesn't really have any ideas or charisma.

I'll give them this: the mansion seems to be doing well with their current focus of bringing in christian/bluegrass/country performers and weird special events. It's hard to keep a place like that going, even in Branson, but they've found a niche and they are working it well. If they are looking to exploit that same niche with this park then it's going to get very weird.

I just spoke to a co-worker who just moved here from Claremore about this. She stated its a bad idea, because of the location. She stated there is nothing out there, and they will have a hard time getting people to visit the area. She stated if it was closer to Tulsa, it would be better. She stated tourists are going to want to do more than just the park, and will need more lodging, restaurants, entertainment.

Other Disney parks are located in major metro areas, not sure what they are trying to do here. $2B is a big investment for rural area. I think it will be built, but scaled down.

Maybe an uneducated comment but seems like it'd be tough to source a workforce at a location like this. An hour drive from Tulsa..

It's not a monument to McDonald's anymore but it is WAY nicer. How exactly did Vinita lose the McDonalds? lol

Whenever OTA widens I-44 there that building is toast.

Maybe an uneducated comment but seems like it'd be tough to source a workforce at a location like this. An hour drive from Tulsa..

this was my thought as well. they are in a county of around 5,200 people, and will need like 6,000 employees.

I just spoke to a co-worker who just moved here from Claremore about this. She stated its a bad idea, because of the location. She stated there is nothing out there, and they will have a hard time getting people to visit the area. She stated if it was closer to Tulsa, it would be better. She stated tourists are going to want to do more than just the park, and will need more lodging, restaurants, entertainment.

Other Disney parks are located in major metro areas, not sure what they are trying to do here. $2B is a big investment for rural area. I think it will be built, but scaled down.

LOL. Some lady who lived in Claremore once isn't exactly a great source and if she's from there...I'm sure she has a more negative view than those of us that go up there for recreation all the time. Grand Lake is out there which is a decent tourist destination similar to Table Rock or Lake of The Ozarks in MO.

I found some land purchased by a group that looks like it has ties to these guys and is in the general area they mentioned. I'll see if I can map it and post it here.

Whenever OTA widens I-44 there that building is toast.

Kinda doubt that happens for awhile. Its been hard enough to get I-44 widened from OKC to Tulsa and it's probably the only turnpike in OK that legitimately needs it.

Maybe an uneducated comment but seems like it'd be tough to source a workforce at a location like this. An hour drive from Tulsa..

No that's a great question. Are there any other parks that are similarly placed in a sparsely populated area? I'd be curious to see what comparisons there are.

No that's a great question. Are there any other parks that are similarly placed in a sparsely populated area? I'd be curious to see what comparisons there are.

How big was Branson when Silver Dollar City was built?

You will probably be able to do the theme park in a day, then what? When we visited Branson a couple years ago, we stayed a few days. We spent a day going to shows/attractions, spent a day at Silver Dollar City, and spent a day shopping/eating/sight seeing in Branson proper.

LOL. Some lady who lived in Claremore once isn't exactly a great source and if she's from there...I'm sure she has a more negative view than those of us that go up there for recreation all the time. Grand Lake is out there which is a decent tourist destination similar to Table Rock or Lake of The Ozarks in MO.

I found some land purchased by a group that looks like it has ties to these guys and is in the general area they mentioned. I'll see if I can map it and post it here.

She grew up there, and most of her adult life there, she is in her late 30s and just moved here. She knows the area and has spent time there.

That said, it's an opportunity missed not building this in Disney, OK.

lol that would have been fantastic ..