Your point is what?

i was taking your cheeky comment, and adding one of my own.

i was taking your cheeky comment, and adding one of my own.

Nothing cheeky about it.
The owners of this facility have not added this basic hygiene feature after a recent renovation. Ya think the World Series facility in Nebraska has showers?
Quit being so offended.

Nothing cheeky about it.
The owners of this facility have not added this basic hygiene feature after a recent renovation. Ya think the World Series facility in Nebraska has showers?
Quit being so offended.

I'm not the one getting riled up. ��

I was joking.

Nothing cheeky about it.
The owners of this facility have not added this basic hygiene feature after a recent renovation. Ya think the World Series facility in Nebraska has showers?
Quit being so offended.

Well showers are always a bit cheeky for the parties involved.

I would assume that an Olympic softball facility would have to have showers.

why?

Well showers are always a bit cheeky for the parties involved.

Well played sir

There are 21 NCAA D1 softball programs in California each with a potential stadium.

One of the reasons that LA in 1984 was the last city to have a net operating profit from hosting the Olympics was the ample existing infrastructure in and around southern California. They were also the only bid that year because cities had recently lost so much money on it. So, they didn't have to bribe the IOC as much, lol.

That's why they're really smart to partner with other markets, like OKC, that already have sufficient facilities for certain sports. It will be interesting to see if LA is able to profit from hosting again.

Well played sir

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Went with that instead of a Penn St joke. Restraint is important in life.

One of the reasons that LA in 1984 was the last city to have a net operating profit from hosting the Olympics was the ample existing infrastructure in and around southern California. They were also the only bid that year because cities had recently lost so much money on it. So, they didn't have to bribe the IOC as much, lol.

That's why they're really smart to partner with other markets, like OKC, that already have sufficient facilities for certain sports. It will be interesting to see if LA is able to profit from hosting again.

Atlanta is also referenced as the last profitable game, which was in 1996, I am not sure if there is a technical difference in type of profitability.

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Went with that instead of a Penn St joke. Restraint is important in life.

Penn St has a strong ewwww factor. You made a good choice imo.

Atlanta is also referenced as the last profitable game, which was in 1996.

I hadn't seen that, but I could see how that's possible. I'm sure there is ample athletic facilities in Atlanta as well.


I am not sure if there is a technical difference in type of profitability.

I think the anecdote about LA I read was simply the profit from holding and operating the games. There's always other economic and PR benefits to it, but they were just looking at the cost to put the games on and the revenue generated directly.

Atlanta is also referenced as the last profitable game, which was in 1996, I am not sure if there is a technical difference in type of profitability.

Makes since. Those Atlanta games were explosive...... I will see myself out now....

https://www.news9.com/story/655d67180b60d106459fe6ff/project-thorpe:-inside-oklahoma-citys-negotiations-with-la-2028-olympics

I was hoping we'd get an announcement before the end of the year, but that's seeming less likely...

Unfortunately, the longer this keeps dragging on, the more I think LA is trying to figure out a way to build or create a facility in So Cal.

Unfortunately, the longer this keeps dragging on, the more I think LA is trying to figure out a way to build or create a facility in So Cal.

No, as I've been saying for months, the whitewater events are coming to OKC.

LA28 hasn't announced their final list of events and locations for any events; that's coming this month or next.

From the News9 article posted above, anyone know what the guy is referring to in the bolded portion below?


“I’m thrilled about the opportunities that the road to LA 28 and the games present for your city, and I look forward to working with you to make the most of these opportunities,” Sribar said in his response to Ming, Mayor Holt, and Riversport OKC executive director Mike Knopp. “I hope that together [we] will overcome the headwinds from those in the US paddlesports leadership stuck in the past and unable to visualize the possibilities that the games and investments in youth and diversity present for OKC and nationally.”

Unfortunately, the longer this keeps dragging on, the more I think LA is trying to figure out a way to build or create a facility in So Cal.

I’ve heard the director of airports is holding it up lol.

Unfortunately, the longer this keeps dragging on, the more I think LA is trying to figure out a way to build or create a facility in So Cal.

This is one of those unique instances where the citizens of OKCTalk know a deal of behind the scenes stuff, through Pete’s work, that most anyone outside this niche would have never entertained.

We should have information on the exact improvements planned for the Riversport area very soon.

Believe that will come before LA28 makes an official announcement either later this month or in January.

I'm sure at minimum, a large parking structure is in those plans.

I'm sure at minimum, a large parking structure is in those plans.

I don't think so.

Most likely temporary stands and improvements to existing buildings; maybe an additional structure.

Parking almost certainly would be accommodated by shuttle busses from the many parking lots and garages nearby.

Riversport Rapids will be hosting the US Olympic Team Trials for the 2024 Paris games:

https://www.velocityokc.com/blog/inside-okc/a-paddle-to-paris-riversport-to-host-u.s.-olympic-team-trials/?back=super_blog

Would be cool if they would build an olympic village at the boathouse discrict where the surface lots are and after the olympics it could be converted into residential apartments.

Would be cool if they would build an olympic village at the boathouse discrict where the surface lots are and after the olympics it could be converted into residential apartments.

If only we could get an announcement lol

Would be cool if they would build an olympic village at the boathouse discrict where the surface lots are and after the olympics it could be converted into residential apartments.

Until ink is dry, there are still a ton of moving parts that make this less than 50%. I will gladly eat crow if wrong, but with things like this, assuming they are a sure thing is never good.

Until ink is dry, there are still a ton of moving parts that make this less than 50%. I will gladly eat crow if wrong, but with things like this, assuming they are a sure thing is never good.

LA28 hasn't officially announced *any* venues; it will all come as one big announcement in conjunction with the Olympic Committee.

And you are dead wrong. This is going to happen and there have been many signs of things moving forward in OKC behind the scenes that I'm not at liberty to share publicly.

Until ink is dry, there are still a ton of moving parts that make this less than 50%. I will gladly eat crow if wrong, but with things like this, assuming they are a sure thing is never good.

Automatically Assuming they aren’t happening without direct knowledge of anything is also not good or a proper analysis.

Automatically Assuming they aren’t happening without direct knowledge of anything is also not good or a proper analysis.

I didn't assume they weren't happening. Just that there are still moving parts, so you never know. They likely will happen in OKC, and be an amazing opportunity for the city! But until they are announced, it's speculation. I'm not claiming any inside info or doubting Pete, at all.

I didn't assume they weren't happening. Just that there are still moving parts, so you never know. They likely will happen in OKC, and be an amazing opportunity for the city! But until they are announced, it's speculation. I'm not claiming any inside info or doubting Pete, at all.

Sorry... I thought you said the chances were less than 50%.

Sorry... I thought you said the chances were less than 50%.

I did. When it comes to things like this they are either 100% or 0%. Until they confirm it, it is unconfirmed, and thus not a certainty.

I am not saying it won't happen, or that it isn't likely to happen. But there were other locations considered, as well. I didn't see where they were eliminated.

I did. When it comes to things like this they are either 100% or 0%. Until they confirm it, it is unconfirmed, and thus not a certainty.

I am not saying it won't happen, or that it isn't likely to happen. But there were other locations considered, as well. I didn't see where they were eliminated.

lol

Time is also running out for movement to start construction in California to be showing, typically the IOC wants test events at least a year before the actual event. Design, permitting (which if includes diverting river water will include federal level), construction, and equipment acquisition all done within 2-3 years is starting to get tight on feasibility.

News out of LA hardly seems like they are going forward with with one there. The most recent plausible construction news I found on the area in LA that had been most recently proposed had 3 options for a future renovation plan around six months ago, none of which seem to include a whitewater course. Plus the next older stories I found around a year before that was some griping about the land might instead go to an NFL team for a new football stadium.

The City just put out an RFP for the Riversport area. This is definitely going forward and anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they are talking about and I'm going to start deleting silly, ill-informed comments:


The improvements may include, but not limited to, new restrooms, seating/grandstands and shade structures, lighting improvements, campus signage, cabling, fiber and sound system infrastructure, boat storage, dock and river access. stage enhancements and cover, sprayground, entry bridge, multiple improvements to the competition channel including pumps, pump controls, conveyor, timing system, and gates.

The City just put out an RFP for the Riversport area. This is definitely going forward and anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they are talking about and I'm going to start deleting silly, ill-informed comments:

Olympics confirmed.

Insert that meme


"Tell me you'll be an Olympic Host City without telling me you'll be an Olympic Host City"


OKC - "How about an RFP for development all throughout the riversport area?"

Having the Olympics here in OKC is so very exciting. You'll be hard pressed to not see me and my family down on the river watching at some point. Also what I'm excited about is the impending new I35 bridge over the river, especially if it's given the aesthetics as advertised. I love when our city gets unique skyline pieces.

OKC is in the process of making a big leap forward.

OKC is in the process of making a big leap forward.

I think we will remember the 20’s as OKC’s most monumental decade.

I was just told that the planned improvements are likely to be over $20 million.

OKC is NOT spending that kind of money for the canoe WC.

You'd have to ask Pete. I was very clear in stating that I was not engaging on the topic of the Olympics; only stating that the RFP and Riversport improvements are being driven specifically by the WC, which itself is a very large event. Not sure why he continues to diminish the scale of the WC, but it is a massive underestimation and a disservice to the event itself.

He has diminished the WC in your mind but in the same breath, you are diminishing the Olympic events. Just end it.

How is this going to be paid for?

How is this going to be paid for?

With the future :wink:

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Is the LA Olympic committee going to chip in?

Is the LA Olympic committee going to chip in?

Pete had alluded to such, and I think they'd pitch in something. Maybe those details are part of the timing of the RFP.

I'm not sure if LA will chip in that much at all except for Olympic specific expenses. Isn't the whole idea behind multi-city hosting is to "share the cost" to host?

I'm not sure if LA will chip in that much at all except for Olympic specific expenses. Isn't the whole idea behind multi-city hosting is to "share the cost" to host?

We've already shared most of the cost by building the venue.

I recently read that the IOC and LA28 might not announce the final events and venues until after the Paris games this summer, which end on August 11th.

I know they are still tweaking things but I'm still very confident OKC will get canoe slalom and there is an outside chance at softball. It seems LA28 is going to stick with the shorter (1,500m vs 2,000m) rowing course in Long Beach.

OKC is in the process of making a big leap forward.

Socalisooner disagrees.
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I recently read that the IOC and LA28 might not announce the final events and venues until after the Paris games this summer, which end on August 11th.

I know they are still tweaking things but I'm still very confident OKC will get canoe slalom and there is an outside chance at softball. It seems LA28 is going to stick with the shorter (1,500m vs 2,000m) rowing course in Long Beach.

I hope/pray we can get all three: Whitewater sports, Softball, and Rowing. Any would surely help boost OKC's profile (and perhaps the likelihood for our supertall :)), but even more strongly if we can get rowing to help fast-track I-35 bridge replacement. It would be OKC eating our cake too. Fingers totally crossed for OKC to get even more lucky.

As excited as I am to have the Olympics coming to OKC in 2028, I am afraid of some of the negative press we would get as well due to it being in July... Average temp during the time the Olympics would be here is in the mid to high 90's.

Did Atlanta get a lot of negative press for the heat in ‘96?

As excited as I am to have the Olympics coming to OKC in 2028, I am afraid of some of the negative press we would get as well due to it being in July... Average temp during the time the Olympics would be here is in the mid to high 90's.

Negative press because of something not a single soul can control. I hate society. Gotta blame those Okies for their weather being hot in the summer.

People worry a lot about nothing.

As excited as I am to have the Olympics coming to OKC in 2028, I am afraid of some of the negative press we would get as well due to it being in July... Average temp during the time the Olympics would be here is in the mid to high 90's.

We are now worrying about the weather and some writer we don’t even know and how they will be years from now? Lol.

This last summer was an aberration, as long as we don't have another usually hot July/August the weather should be manageable.

Positive international exposure will offset whatever negativity (and that always comes when you call attention to yourself) a million times over.

Did Atlanta get a lot of negative press for the heat in ‘96?

Yes: https://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/20/sports/atlanta-day-1-the-heat-becomes-another-opponent.html

As did Tokyo in the 2021 Olympics: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/30/sport/tokyo-2020-heat-weather-spt-intl/index.html

Yes: https://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/20/sports/atlanta-day-1-the-heat-becomes-another-opponent.html

As did Tokyo in the 2021 Olympics: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/30/sport/tokyo-2020-heat-weather-spt-intl/index.html

Good company to be in then.

It's just a shame our Okie inferiority complex gets in the way of so many actually feeling good about anything here. The worst take always comes up fast.

^^^^^