View Full Version : Harrah, Newalla, and surrounding towns.



ChrisHayes
06-02-2023, 06:03 PM
As the metro continues to grow out, there will almost certainly be people who want to live in the metro, but not in OKC, Norman, Edmond, or any of the other bigger cities. There will be people who would rather live in the smaller outlying towns. Smaller for now. So, my question is, if anyone knows of any development plans for Harrah, Newall, Jones, Choctaw, Newcastle, etc? I would suspect that many of the smaller towns can't be more than a few years away from starting to grow faster.

Mountaingoat
06-03-2023, 08:54 AM
I would think the new Toll Rd helps with access to Tinker but this area really needs a faster east-west connection to get into OKC like a major upgrade to NE 23rd. 6-laning, minimizing traffic lights and cutouts, giving 23rd traffic-light priority, turn lanes, even a median in places would help the area grow.

BoulderSooner
06-03-2023, 09:37 AM
I would think the new Toll Rd helps with access to Tinker but this area really needs a faster east-west connection to get into OKC like a major upgrade to NE 23rd. 6-laning, minimizing traffic lights and cutouts, giving 23rd traffic-light priority, turn lanes, even a median in places would help the area grow.

NE 23rd is one of the widest streets in OKC

it was highway 62 ... it is 4 lane (all the way from I35) with a constant center turn lane from just east of OKC all the way to Harrah

Plutonic Panda
06-03-2023, 10:06 AM
It does need to be six lane to prepare for future growth. I still want to see an east-west freeway somewhere in the area.

BoulderSooner
06-03-2023, 11:41 AM
It does need to be six lane to prepare for future growth. I still want to see an east-west freeway somewhere in the area.

no it doesn't

Plutonic Panda
06-03-2023, 01:25 PM
no it doesn't
Yes it does

chssooner
06-03-2023, 01:33 PM
It does need to be six lane to prepare for future growth. I still want to see an east-west freeway somewhere in the area.

Hard to speculate and build for 20 years in the future growth with public funds.

MagzOK
06-03-2023, 03:42 PM
NE 23rd is one of the widest streets in OKC

it was highway 62 ... it is 4 lane (all the way from I35) with a constant center turn lane from just east of OKC all the way to Harrah

Complete with a bazillion stoplights.

SEMIweather
06-05-2023, 09:15 AM
Complete with a bazillion stoplights.

That are never timed correctly. It remains crazy to me that the various municipalities across the Metro can't work together to coordinate the light timing on key arterial roads such as US-62, NW Expressway, SH-66, Classen, Shields, Lincoln, Sooner, and SH-9. If we are going to build a Metro around the automobile, we may as well do it correctly.

tvkokc
06-05-2023, 01:47 PM
There are actually quite a few new sub divisions currently in various phases currently out towards the east. I've been in the residential subdivision design business for 12 years and I have quite a few I've done in the east metro with various Preliminary plats to be filed out that way.

Highway 62 out that way is quite nice but as others mentioned it's not timed on the traffic signals very well, and no it doesn't need to be 6 lanes wide but it is. Most people I know out that way utilize I40 to travel on.

OKC B-Man
06-07-2023, 10:24 AM
My wife and I moved out to Harrah from OKC around 4 years ago. It's been pretty crazy seeing how much it has changed/grown in those 4 years. The Kickapoo has definitely spurred a lot of that growth. I work on the NW side of OKC, and the Kickapoo is the only way my commute is tolerable. My only concern about the growth is there doesn't really seem to be a masterplan for the town or anyone leading the charge in bringing it all together. Harrah more or less has two mainstreets/downtowns. The original one where 23rd St turns into Harrah has pretty good character and a lot of potential, just need someone with the vision to realize its full potential. The newer one at 29th & Harrah road has zero character. Just a hodge podge of strip centers and a few fast food restaurants.

BoulderSooner
06-07-2023, 10:32 AM
That are never timed correctly. It remains crazy to me that the various municipalities across the Metro can't work together to coordinate the light timing on key arterial roads such as US-62,

pretty sure that 62 is fully controlled by the state

SEMIweather
06-07-2023, 10:38 AM
pretty sure that 62 is fully controlled by the state

For light timing? It makes no sense to me that OKC, Nicoma Park, and Choctaw would have their standard signage at all US-62 lights within their city limits, only for ODOT to control the timing at those lights. Now, that doesn't mean that isn't what's actually happening. Just that if it is happening, it makes no sense.

BoulderSooner
06-07-2023, 10:43 AM
For light timing? It makes no sense to me that OKC, Nicoma Park, and Choctaw would have their standard signage at all US-62 lights within their city limits, only for ODOT to control the timing at those lights. Now, that doesn't mean that isn't what's actually happening. Just that if it is happening, it makes no sense.

that would be something interesting to find out for sure ..