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Mississippi Blues 06-22-2023, 09:00 PM It ended up moving more east than I thought. I live near Tinker, and it poured, and was loud! Scared my poor doggo! Just wish it was a little slower moving.
Same here near Baptist Medical except it was my 3-year-old that was startled by how suddenly everything ramped up.
BG918 06-22-2023, 09:51 PM I feel like we’ve seen more severe weather with this pattern than we did all spring with the typical dryline or cold front scenario. Tulsa got hit by their worst storm in over a decade, Texas towns have been hit by tornadoes and high winds every night this past week and the Denver area saw multiple days of large hail and flash flooding (this is also the 2nd wettest May/June on record there).
This is also unbelievable considering how dry western OK was for so long - some areas of eastern OK are now running well below average entering the dry and hot summer months. Not good
https://data.prod.mesonet.org/data/public/mesonet/maps/realtime/rainrfc.720hr.png?cache_bust=1687488765765
Anonymous. 06-23-2023, 07:47 AM Eastern OK will be fine. They have barely gone 90 days without being the rainfall winner of the state for the first time in like half a decade. Technically as of 3 days ago, western OK is still in a moderate to severe drought and E OK is essentially drought free. What has happened across W TX, W OK, and W KS is a miracle. This rainfall is something you pay for out there. Cycles like this replenish the land.
The more moisture you get out west, the more benefits are shared by everyone else to the east.
This coming week, it looks like nearly everyone in the state will see 100F. No question the drought will be back eventually, we must welcome every drop of water that comes to this region.
jn1780 06-23-2023, 08:34 AM Eastern OK will be fine. They have barely gone 90 days without being the rainfall winner of the state for the first time in like half a decade. Technically as of 3 days ago, western OK is still in a moderate to severe drought and E OK is essentially drought free. What has happened across W TX, W OK, and W KS is a miracle. This rainfall is something you pay for out there. Cycles like this replenish the land.
The more moisture you get out west, the more benefits are shared by everyone else to the east.
This coming week, it looks like nearly everyone in the state will see 100F. No question the drought will be back eventually, we must welcome every drop of water that comes to this region.
Yeah, Western Oklahoma would have loved to see 2 to 4 inches of rain several months ago.
SEMIweather 06-23-2023, 09:18 AM The vast majority of the state is also well-positioned to benefit from what should be at least a moderate El Niņo as we approach the fall and winter months.
Anonymous. 06-23-2023, 09:40 AM SPC has upgraded a decent swath of SW OK to Slight Risk. This is for the outflow boundary that is currently being laid out by this morning's MCS. Currently this cluster of storms is marching ESE, much like the small complex we saw last night. Models show it dying out before reaching C OK, but we shall watch and see.
SEMIweather 06-23-2023, 11:33 AM Severe Thunderstorm Watch out for most of the Metro for another MCS approaching from the WNW.
Anonymous. 06-23-2023, 11:35 AM Yea this thing is picking up some steam. Damaging wind event is increasing coming up after lunch. Now is the time to get your trampolines and outdoor furniture secured.
BG918 06-23-2023, 11:38 AM The NWS has not been very good at picking up these MCS events. Barely even a chance of rain a couple days ago, and 20% chance this morning
SEMIweather 06-23-2023, 11:44 AM The NWS has not been very good at picking up these MCS events. Barely even a chance of rain a couple days ago, and 20% chance this morning
I think that OUN is one of the very best NWS offices and certainly better than the local media in terms of not overhyping events, but you can almost always count on them underestimating cold front strength in the winter, and overestimating ridge strength in the summer.
Libbymin 06-23-2023, 12:48 PM Blowing and raining pretty hard here in central OKC.
SEMIweather 06-23-2023, 12:55 PM Not too bad around 50th & Lincoln. Maybe 40-50 mph gusts.
Anonymous. 06-23-2023, 12:57 PM Storms collapsed as they were just W of OKC. Spared a lot of damage across the metro. Getting a decent drink, though!
This will also setup the evening for amazing patio weather for OKC tonight. Enjoy these temps! Tomorrow we bake.
I don't know if it's the wet weather causing it but I find the flying bug infestation makes it impossible to enjoy doing much outside in the evenings especially when the wind dies down 1-2 hours before sunset. Especially if I'm out in my yard. I'm seeing 106 for Wednesday and 103 for Thursday being predicted.
Bill Robertson 06-23-2023, 01:28 PM I watched it pour at our house for a half hour or so on the cameras. We needed it. There was a water main break yesterday and the street was covered in mud. Looks like most of it washed away.
Libbymin 06-23-2023, 01:40 PM I don't know if it's the wet weather causing it but I find the flying bug infestation makes it impossible to enjoy doing much outside in the evenings especially when the wind dies down 1-2 hours before sunset. Especially if I'm out in my yard. I'm seeing 106 for Wednesday and 103 for Thursday being predicted.
The mosquitos have been absolutely insufferable in my back yard in the evenings.
chssooner 06-23-2023, 01:41 PM Looking at Mesonet, you wouldn't think it has rained at all in OKC.
soonerguru 06-23-2023, 01:53 PM The mosquitos have been absolutely insufferable in my back yard in the evenings.
The mosquitos were going after my cat!
soonerguru 06-23-2023, 01:54 PM Looking at Mesonet, you wouldn't think it has rained at all in OKC.
Same story, different verse. The airport showed we got .53 yesterday. Wonder if the Mesonet stations showed. .01.
baralheia 06-23-2023, 02:10 PM Same story, different verse. The airport showed we got .53 yesterday. Wonder if the Mesonet stations showed. .01.
I'm about 4 miles east of the airport and my rain gauge picked up 0.44" yesterday. Today, I'm at 0.30" and counting.
chssooner 06-23-2023, 02:30 PM Same story, different verse. The airport showed we got .53 yesterday. Wonder if the Mesonet stations showed. .01.
It is crazy how bad these Mesonet stations are at getting rain totals right.
LakeEffect 06-23-2023, 03:24 PM It is crazy how bad these Mesonet stations are at getting rain totals right.
Are you being facetious?
chssooner 06-23-2023, 03:34 PM Are you being facetious?
No. Not 1 bit. I live about 4 miles west of the OKC east Mesonet gauge, and my house has gotten close to, if not more than, an inch of rain since yesterday. The Mesonet says .39". There is a major disconnect.
Bill Robertson 06-23-2023, 03:44 PM No. Not 1 bit. I live about 4 miles west of the OKC east Mesonet gauge, and my house has gotten close to, if not more than, an inch of rain since yesterday. The Mesonet says .39". There is a major disconnect.
I've literally been on one side of a street and it's pouring. The other side of the street is dry. I can absolutely see the possibility of an inch difference in 4 miles.
Roger S 06-23-2023, 04:00 PM I've literally been on one side of a street and it's pouring. The other side of the street is dry. I can absolutely see the possibility of an inch difference in 4 miles.
Yep.... I was fishing a tournament one day and saw a boat on the other side of a cove get caught in a downpour and a drop of rain never fell in my boat.... 2nd craziest thing I ever saw while fishing.
C_M_25 06-23-2023, 04:07 PM I’ll take these surprise MCS’s every day for the rest of the summer if this is the temperatures we have.
I almost feel bad for the folks in Texas who are cooking right now, but you know what? I don’t. We cooked all last summer and most summers prior to that. I would rather the heat be down there over them right now as opposed to sitting on top of us.
chssooner 06-23-2023, 06:15 PM And more overnight? This will help keep the state from burning to a crisp over the summer.
BG918 06-23-2023, 07:33 PM The pattern appears to be moving toward being more active the second week of July
scottk 06-23-2023, 07:44 PM Same story, different verse. The airport showed we got .53 yesterday. Wonder if the Mesonet stations showed. .01.
It would be nice if the Mesonet added more stations across the OKC Metro to get better data across the city other than 2 stations in OKC East and Spencer. Payne County has twice as many sites.
chssooner 06-23-2023, 09:34 PM I just want the humidity to go away. And the bugs to go back to the fiery chasm from which they came.
baralheia 06-24-2023, 01:52 AM It would be nice if the Mesonet added more stations across the OKC Metro to get better data across the city other than 2 stations in OKC East and Spencer. Payne County has twice as many sites.
Yeah there used to be two other Mesonet stations in OKC - OKC West (https://weather.ok.gov/index.php/sites/site_description/okcw), on Portland between Reno and NW 10th, near where the OSU Mid Campus is now (retired in 2015); and OKC North (https://weather.ok.gov/index.php/sites/site_description/okcn), on Broadway Extension between Wilshire and Britton, just west of the new Dolese building in The Half development (retired in 2018). There's a full list of all retired Mesonet stations (https://www.mesonet.org/about/mesonet-sites/retired-sites) on the Oklahoma Mesonet website. There also used to be a network of 40 small weather stations scattered across OKC, usually mounted to traffic lights, called the OKC Micronet (https://www.mesonet.org/research/past-projects/okc-micronet); that was decommissioned in 2013 (if memory serves, the Micronet stations depended on the OKC municipal wifi network that was decommissioned around this time in favor of cellular data).
SEMIweather 06-24-2023, 03:37 AM I've always assumed that OSU is a large part of the reason why there are so many sites in the Stillwater vicinity. OKC's coverage level is basically on par with the rest of the state, IMO.
Libbymin 06-25-2023, 02:03 PM Pretty thick out there today.
Bunty 06-26-2023, 03:51 AM I've always assumed that OSU is a large part of the reason why there are so many sites in the Stillwater vicinity. OKC's coverage level is basically on par with the rest of the state, IMO.
I assume it's because OSU owns lots of farmland, including near Perkins for growing cotton in the recent past where there is still a station. But why only one station in Cleveland County where OU and the NWS is headquartered?
OkiePoke 06-26-2023, 09:26 AM With how isolated storms can be in Oklahoma, I wonder how accurate our historical data is if we do not have high resolution of collection.
SEMIweather 06-26-2023, 09:37 AM I assume it's because OSU owns lots of farmland, including near Perkins for growing cotton in the recent past where there is still a station. But why only one station in Cleveland County where OU and the NWS is headquartered?
Not much farmland in Cleveland County anymore, except for far west Norman and the Slaughterville/Lexington area. Plus, OU isn't an agricultural school.
With how isolated storms can be in Oklahoma, I wonder how accurate our historical data is if we do not have high resolution of collection.
I would imagine fairly accurate over a long timeframe as the precipitation variability from storm to storm all tends to even out over time.
Anonymous. 06-27-2023, 07:34 AM Quick moving cluster of storms approaching C OK right now. Looks like a mostly northern side of metro to be clipped.
Severe threat for a more powerful MCS overnight Tuesday into Wednesday, but primarily looks to be across N OK.
Wow, loudest thunderclap I've ever heard... My ears are ringing!
BoulderSooner 06-27-2023, 08:06 AM Quick moving cluster of storms approaching C OK right now. Looks like a mostly northern side of metro to be clipped.
Severe threat for a more powerful MCS overnight Tuesday into Wednesday, but primarily looks to be across N OK.
crazy clouds on the front side of this storm ..
Teo9969 06-27-2023, 08:08 AM The rain from LHP/Grand to Paycom HQ from 7:30-8:00 has been unreal
Teo9969 06-27-2023, 08:12 AM 18097
Bunty 06-27-2023, 08:56 AM Not much farmland in Cleveland County anymore, except for far west Norman and the Slaughterville/Lexington area. Plus, OU isn't an agricultural school.
But you failed to answer the question which was, why only one station in Cleveland County where OU and the NWS is headquartered? Maybe someone else can answer.
MagzOK 06-27-2023, 09:18 AM The Mesonet is always looking for volunteers to donate access to a small portion of their land for a station, they can't just go in and put one. And there are a bunch of requirements of the site that must be met. So perhaps nobody else in Cleveland County that has sizable land wants to have one on their property?
SEMIweather 06-27-2023, 09:31 AM The Mesonet is always looking for volunteers to donate access to a small portion of their land for a station, they can't just go in and put one. And there are a bunch of requirements of the site that must be met. So perhaps nobody else in Cleveland County that has sizable land wants to have one on their property?
Yeah, I suspect they have a harder time finding volunteers than you would think, which is why when they had to decommission the OKC North site once The Half started to be built out, the replacement station ended up all the way out on Bob Funk's Express Ranches a few miles to the north of Yukon.
Quick moving cluster of storms approaching C OK right now. Looks like a mostly northern side of metro to be clipped.
Severe threat for a more powerful MCS overnight Tuesday into Wednesday, but primarily looks to be across N OK.
I watched a few weather casts on TV yesterday and I don't think anyone predicted these OKC storms this morning. Picked up 1/2" of rain. Mike Morgan was predicting a significant straight line wind event across the northern part of the state for Tuesday night/Wednesday morning.
chssooner 06-27-2023, 09:52 AM South OKC missed out again.
Bill Robertson 06-27-2023, 10:12 AM Wow, loudest thunderclap I've ever heard... My ears are ringing!
My wife texted me about the time you posted this and said the same thing @ 36th & Lincoln.
Bunty 06-27-2023, 11:36 AM WOW, a dramatic big heat surge is on for Wednesday. 108 for OKC, 109 for Stillwater, 111 for Altus. The record-breaking Texas heat wave is going to make it here. I think I'll have to see and feel it to believe it.
Bunty 06-27-2023, 11:38 AM Wow, loudest thunderclap I've ever heard... My ears are ringing!
Same thing in Stillwater. It startled the cat and me. It was the only loud one. The rest sounded in the distance.
OKCDrummer77 06-27-2023, 11:50 AM My wife texted me about the time you posted this and said the same thing @ 36th & Lincoln.
My office is off of 36th & Santa Fe. On the way in this morning, there was a pretty big lightning strike and loud thunder to the ESE of that intersection at around 7:50.
LakeEffect 06-27-2023, 02:32 PM It would be nice if the Mesonet added more stations across the OKC Metro to get better data across the city other than 2 stations in OKC East and Spencer. Payne County has twice as many sites.
At one time, OKC had a micronet as well - stations on traffic light poles across the City. Unfortunately, Mesonet budget cuts stopped the program. It was really cool.
https://www.mesonet.org/research/past-projects/okc-micronet#:~:text=The%20Oklahoma%20City%20Micronet% 20(OKCNet,the%20Oklahoma%20Mesonet%20(a%20joint
LakeEffect 06-27-2023, 02:32 PM I watched a few weather casts on TV yesterday and I don't think anyone predicted these OKC storms this morning. Picked up 1/2" of rain. Mike Morgan was predicting a significant straight line wind event across the northern part of the state for Tuesday night/Wednesday morning.
The National Weather Service had a 20% chance overnight and up until 10:00 am...
soonerguru 06-27-2023, 03:32 PM It's weird, I keep hitting refresh on NWS site and it shows the OKC temperature at 2:53 to be 83. That's down from 86 an hour previously. Yet, they are sticking to their forecasted high of 96. Seems the lingering cloud cover is keeping the temperatures down and the consistent breeze is limiting the impact of the humidity.
I realize it could start baking at 4 pm. or 5 pm. and eventually get up to the forecasted high, but it's looking less likely as the day goes on.
BG918 06-27-2023, 03:48 PM It's weird, I keep hitting refresh on NWS site and it shows the OKC temperature at 2:53 to be 83. That's down from 86 an hour previously. Yet, they are sticking to their forecasted high of 96. Seems the lingering cloud cover is keeping the temperatures down and the consistent breeze is limiting the impact of the humidity.
I realize it could start baking at 4 pm. or 5 pm. and eventually get up to the forecasted high, but it's looking less likely as the day goes on.
Their modeling likely didn't include morning storms or the subsequent cloudcover.
SEMIweather 06-27-2023, 07:25 PM The latest Mesoscale Discussion from the SPC has me keeping at least half an eye on whether this evening's MCS could skirt the far northern portions of the Metro. Tulsa Metro unfortunately looks to be under the gun for a significant wind threat once again.
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md1312.html
soonerguru 06-27-2023, 08:14 PM Their modeling likely didn't include morning storms or the subsequent cloudcover.
Yes, I realize that. But, they often will update the forecast as the day goes on. Never saw an adjustment. One thought is that the airport didn't get the rain in the morning. Was it hot as heck on the south side today? I don't think we got above 90 in NW OKC.
Anonymous. 06-27-2023, 08:20 PM New convection outlook out brings the risks closer in toward C OK. However, current radar trend and forecast models show storms just barely missing OKC proper.
SEMIweather 06-27-2023, 10:15 PM This MCS will end up going well north of the Metro. It might have just been better to keep the risk areas where they originally were, lol. Gotta love the weather.
Anonymous. 06-27-2023, 11:25 PM Yea funny how that worked out. The original OK/KS border track was spot-on.
Bunty 06-28-2023, 12:37 AM Yea funny how that worked out. The original OK/KS border track was spot-on.
Stillwater got the gust front, but the rain passed by just to the north.
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