Celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay is planning an English pub and restaurant on the lake at Chisholm Creek.

Gordon Ramsay Pub & Grille has filed plans to build on the empty lot just south of Razzo's and will feature an expansive indoor dining area with a covered patio facing the water.

This will be only the third location for the concept with the other two being in Caesar's Palace in both Las Vegas and Atlantic City.

The restaurants typically feature a vintage-inspired bar with dozens of beers on tap and Ramsay's own take on elevated English pub food such as Beef Wellington and fish and chips.

Work should start soon.


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This is a pretty big deal and the draw should help all the restaurants and retailers in Chisholm.

And OKC really does need an English pub, even if this will be a modern take on that concept.

Cool!

Massive get for OKC!

Las Vegas, Atlantic City, Oklahoma City.

Las Vegas, Atlantic City, Oklahoma City.

I'll be very interested to hear how this came about, typically Miami or LA is a logical next location.

Maybe Chisolm creek can finish out development of the lake with another celebrity chef branded restaurant on the south end.

Las Vegas, Atlantic City, Oklahoma City.

Oh dang, this is the same pub as the one in Caesar's in Las Vegas? I almost went there a few months ago but the group voted for steaks.

Wow this is an incredible get for us! I'm very curious to know what about OKC got us on their radar for their first standalone (non-casino related) location, but in any event I'm very excited to check this out once it opens.

I know that OKC has a very large viewership of the Food Network and I bet that factored in.

Gordon Ramsay recently moved his restaurant group HQ to Las Colinas so maybe they will be looking at this region more now.

Las Vegas, Atlantic City, Oklahoma City.

Pretty wild to be third on that list.

Edit: This seems to be getting a lot of attention, the public engagement on the associated twitter post looks noticeably higher than usual.

Damn, the food is way pricey. That better be the best burger in the state for $27 and $34 fish and chips and it's cod FFS!

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Those are casino prices. I'm sure the OKC price list will look quite different.

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Those are casino prices. I'm sure the OKC price list will look quite different.

I would hope so

This seems to be getting a lot of attention, the public engagement on the associated twitter post looks noticeably higher than usual.

Once the counters stop spinning, I'll post the engagement numbers from social media.

The Facebook post alone has already been viewed by almost 200,000 people, and that number will likely go much higher.

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Those are casino prices. I'm sure the OKC price list will look quite different.
I'm sure it will. I looked at both the Vegas menu and the Atlantic City menu. They vary quite a bit in content and prices so I would think OKC's will be different still.

Is this a situation where a local franchisee is bringing it here, or is it corporate that did a site selection and chose us?

I do not believe there is any local franchisee.

Is this a situation where a local franchisee is bringing it here, or is it corporate that did a site selection and chose us?

Spoke with their Chief Development Officer (who we met vacationing in Mexico this spring) and currently resides in Dallas. He confirmed this is a corporate project.

BTW, I know they had been looking at OKC for a while because I saw this same concept plotted for a Classen Curve spot along 63rd, just to the east of Torchy's.

That was about a year ago.

Awesome, huge get for OKC and Chisholm Creek!

The dinner price is within the range of competitors in OKC.

found this today Gordon Ramsay Restaurant HQ recently moved to DFW

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/celebrity-chef-hells-kitchen-gordon-ramsay-relocating-his-north-american-restaurant-hq-to-dallas-fort-worth/287-e9549c4c-e41d-4ef9-bb4c-b1fabe8b2b61

found this today Gordon Ramsay Restaurant HQ recently moved to DFW

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/celebrity-chef-hells-kitchen-gordon-ramsay-relocating-his-north-american-restaurant-hq-to-dallas-fort-worth/287-e9549c4c-e41d-4ef9-bb4c-b1fabe8b2b61

Very odd then that they would choose OKC as their next location, DFW seems like it would've been the obvious first-choice for a central US location

Very odd then that they would choose OKC as their next location, DFW seems like it would've been the obvious first-choice for a central US location

It does make you wonder if there is some other catalyst.

Perhaps the MAPS 4 soccer stadium has committed to Chisholm Creek?

It does make you wonder if there is some other catalyst.

Perhaps the MAPS 4 soccer stadium has committed to Chisholm Creek?

While the stadium may or may not end up there, to use that as an inducement to lure investors before the public process is completed would be a total abdication of the MAPS process. It would be a massive scandal.

So, it must be something else.

As I mentioned previously, they were very close to signing a deal at Classen Curve over a year ago, so they've been looking at the market in general for some time.

I used to be a commercial real estate broker, and there are two primary ways in which these sorts of deals commence: 1) the business itself does research, becomes interested in a market, and has employees that scout potential sites; or 2) a developer (or their broker representative) reaches out directly to the company and recruits them.

Knowing the people at Chisholm Creek and Classen Curve, I can assure you they are very aggressive in being proactive and actively recruiting new-to-market retailers, restaurants, hotels and apartment developers and there are lots of examples of their success. The OAK is the same. And when they go out and recruit and get an interested business to nibble on a market, that business often looks at other possible locations. Many times, a broker or developer can get a company interested in the market but then lose them to another preferred site; and the particularly shrewd operations leverage developers and even cities against each other to get a better deal (like Costco did with Edmond when they always wanted to be on Memorial Road).

I wouldn't be surprised if Washington Prime (Classen Curve) had been working with the Ramsay people on other projects and got them interested in OKC, then they felt like Chisholm Creek was a better fit. Or, it could have happened the other way around between those two properties.

You have to include OAK in this mix as well, as I know Curve, Chisholm and OAK are all actively recruiting several of the same retail and restaurant tenants. And at the same time, OAK is trying to do deals without losing them to Penn Square; or by taking them from the mall (like Curve did with BC Clark). Word is that Pottery Barn is not renewing their lease at Penn Square and I can guarantee you all three of these properties have been courting them. And all of them would kill to get the Apple store, but Apple just made a huge investment at Penn Sq.

I will add the OKC Chamber has a dedicated person to promote the city to various retail and restaurant operations, and they attend national conferences and sometimes entertain their reps when they come into town, as does the Alliance for Economic Development which works closely with the city and state chambers.


Things have changed somewhat since I was a broker focusing on retail properties and tenants/buyers. The primary shift is now brokers usually want a part of a development if they bring a key buyer/tenant as this was considered unethical in my day and probably still is, but is now quite common. I have mentioned that I'm the person that recruited Walgreens to OKC back in the 80s, and had reached out to them because I was representing various properties in OKC, but ended up working with them in Tulsa because that was the market they preferred first. This was the 80s and all that is shifted now, with almost everyone preferring to start in OKC if they are entering the state.

They aren’t messing around with this project. Construction is in full swing.

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OH dang they're not wasting any time!

I can't believe I had never noticed the pedestrian bridge and ampitheatre before.

I have been meaning to go to Razzoo's to get their fried pickles but one day I will

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Pete, Do you know what is going in next door (to the south) of Gordon's restaurant?

Pete, Do you know what is going in next door (to the south) of Gordon's restaurant?

Yes it will be a wine/tapas bar:

Riserva (https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=46993&p=1206191#post1206191)

Yes it will be a wine/tapas bar:

Riserva (https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=46993&p=1206191#post1206191)

Thank you!

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Gordon Ramsay changes concepts at Chisholm Creek (https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=860-Gordon-Ramsay-changes-concepts-at-Chisholm-Creek)

As we were first to report in May (https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=786-Gordon-Ramsay-to-bring-Pub-Grill-restaurant-to-OKC), celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay is in the process of bringing a new restaurant to Chisholm Creek at Memorial and Western in far north Oklahoma City.


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But Ramsay has now decided to change the concept. What was to be a Pub & Grill will now be one of the chef's newest concepts, Ramsay's Kitchen.

The first opened early this year in an exclusive area of Boston. A second is scheduled to debut later this month on the Las Vegas Strip.

From Ramsay's Kitchen website:


Ramsay’s Kitchen is an experience like no other. It’s a casually refined, inviting kitchen that welcomes every guest to experience Chef Ramsay's culinary journey around the world.

Experience an all-day dining menu at Ramsay's Kitchen. From breakfast to desserts to late-night cocktails, enjoy classics like Beef Wellington, local fare, and dishes influenced from all over the globe under one roof. There’s a unique twist on local favorites — all inspired by Michelin-starred Chef Gordon Ramsay. Pair your meal with a crafted cocktail or select from a robust wine list, followed by an exquisite dessert selection.

The restaurant is well under construction at Chisholm Creek and the exterior will remain as originally planned, but the interior and patio will be upgraded and include stylish decor and a large bar area.

Ramsay's Kitchen will open in early 2023.



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I'm going to be giving this place a try but my experience at Gordon Ramsay Steak in Las Vegas was underwhelming.

But most of my meals on the strip have been underwhelming with the exception of Tom Colicchio's Craftsteak. So I'm going to try and go in without any preconceived notions after my meal in Vegas..... With that said... Just having Ramsay's name on this is going to make it a hit I'm pretty sure. I've been a fan of his since before anyone really knew who we was.

Craftsteak though is the reason I now grow sunchokes on my farm and is the only restaurant I have ever been served sirloin that I enjoyed.

This seems like good news? Disappointing I guess if you were really into the English pub concept, but this feels like an upgrade and its still a new concept and would put us at just the third location, yeah?

I had a good experience at GR Steak in Vegas although I'm admittedly surely not as discerning as Roger is.

Yes, this would be only the 3rd Ramsay's Kitchen.

And yes, this represents an upgrade from the pub concept.

I had a good experience at GR Steak in Vegas although I'm admittedly surely not as discerning as Roger is.

When i can't finish a bowl of mac and cheese with lardons (which I believe is the side dish in the pic with the steak above) because it's too salty.... It's not a good thing.

The service at Steak was top notch and I loved that we were actually seated where I could see into the kitchen and watch them work, even though I think the man at the table between me and the kitchen thought I was checking out his girlfriend. ;)

Holy cow fantastic!

When i can't finish a bowl of mac and cheese with lardons (which I believe is the side dish in the pic with the steak above) because it's too salty.... It's not a good thing.

The service at Steak was top notch and I loved that we were actually seated where I could see into the kitchen and watch them work, even though I think the man at the table between me and the kitchen thought I was checking out his girlfriend. ;)

Ah, yeah, that's a bummer. I had the Beef Wellington which was fantastic; I don't particularly remember the sides.


Yes, this would be only the 3rd Ramsay's Kitchen.

And yes, this represents an upgrade from the pub concept.

Any insight into what led them to switch to this concept? (not to look a gift horse in the mouth; just curious)

Ah, yeah, that's a bummer. I had the Beef Wellington which was fantastic; I don't particularly remember the sides.

Had we gone to Hell's Kitchen. I probably would have had the Wellington..... But since we went to Steak I had to have the steak.... And the steak, while good, wasn't good enough to make me want to go back... I'd go back to Craftsteak if I was in Vegas again.... I probably will not try the steak at Ramsay's Kitchen. Not because of my experience in Vegas but because I want to try some of his other dishes.

The menu for Ramsay's Kitchen is pretty solid, it covers a lot of areas and at different price points. This should serve as a really great date night destination.

When i can't finish a bowl of mac and cheese with lardons (which I believe is the side dish in the pic with the steak above) because it's too salty.... It's not a good thing.

The service at Steak was top notch and I loved that we were actually seated where I could see into the kitchen and watch them work, even though I think the man at the table between me and the kitchen thought I was checking out his girlfriend. ;)

Try Prime at the Bellagio. Really good steaks too.

Next time I'm in Vegas I'll have to check out Craftsteak.

Gordon Ramsay changes concepts at Chisholm Creek (https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=860-Gordon-Ramsay-changes-concepts-at-Chisholm-Creek)

As we were first to report in May (https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=786-Gordon-Ramsay-to-bring-Pub-Grill-restaurant-to-OKC), celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay is in the process of bringing a new restaurant to Chisholm Creek at Memorial and Western in far north Oklahoma City.


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But Ramsay has now decided to change the concept. What was to be a Pub & Grill will now be one of the chef's newest concepts, Ramsay's Kitchen.

The first opened early this year in an exclusive area of Boston. A second is scheduled to debut later this month on the Las Vegas Strip.

From Ramsay's Kitchen website:



The restaurant is well under construction at Chisholm Creek and the exterior will remain as originally planned, but the interior and patio will be upgraded and include stylish decor and a large bar area.

Ramsay's Kitchen will open in early 2023.



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I absolutely LOVE this news. Some local food bloggers will be annoyed by the excitement, lol, but this is a far more adventurous entrant into OKC's dining scene than what was previously planned. I'm sure a Ramsay pub would have been very good but this has amazing potential to be a destination restaurant.

So happy to hear this and good for Chef Ramsay for taking a smart gamble on OKC.

I noticed they have fish and chips on the Boston menu, so that pub mainstay will probably be available. Huge upgrade for OKC!

I’m not upset with this news but I do wish we’d get an authentic English pub serving the real deal fish n chips in OKC.

I’m not upset with this news but I do wish we’d get an authentic English pub serving the real deal fish n chips in OKC.

I know it's not English, but how are Sean Cummings' fish/chips?

I know it's not English, but how are Sean Cummings' fish/chips?
Honestly have not been there but thanks for bringing that up! I might go try them tonight. Anyone else here tried them?

I love Sean Cummings, but the fish and chips are fine. Get the boxty if you're there. The best fish and chips in OKC are at RePUBlic.

On the topic of this thread - I wish them success up there. It might even get me to go to Chisolm Creek voluntarily. Maybe.

I love Sean Cummings, but the fish and chips are fine. Get the boxty if you're there. The best fish and chips in OKC are at RePUBlic.

On the topic of this thread - I wish them success up there. It might even get me to go to Chisolm Creek voluntarily. Maybe.

Thx for the tips, haven't been to RePUBlic for ages, need to go back.

I dunno, I had the best fish and chips I've had in the area at The Black Raven Pub in Harrah last weekend! So perfectly done--actually crunchy on the outside. If you all haven't made the drive to this cool little pub in an 100-year old building yet, make the drive out and do it! Everything my whole table had was excellent. Scratch kitchen, cool owner, very atmospheric.

I dunno, I had the best fish and chips I've had in the area at The Black Raven Pub in Harrah last weekend! So perfectly done--actually crunchy on the outside. If you all haven't made the drive to this cool little pub in an 100-year old building yet, make the drive out and do it! Everything my whole table had was excellent. Scratch kitchen, cool owner, very atmospheric.

I forgot they moved to Harrah... Ate there when they were in Choctaw Plaza a few times and thought it was pretty good.

Thx for the tips, haven't been to RePUBlic for ages, need to go back.

Alternate opinion, the fish and chips at Republic are not worth much. Fish is over battered and tasteless. Good fish and chips requires being near a water source. There is no good fish and chips in Oklahoma, though plenty that will do in a pinch if you are homesick for England or Canada coastals.

Alternate opinion, the fish and chips at Republic are not worth much. Fish is over battered and tasteless. Good fish and chips requires being near a water source. There is no good fish and chips in Oklahoma, though plenty that will do in a pinch if you are homesick for England or Canada coastals.
Totally agree. Most who think the f&c here are good haven’t had real authentic properly made ones.