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Dob Hooligan 02-16-2023, 01:31 PM I know they announced renewal before the end of the season, and reported strong numbers. But, there has been a whole lot of cost containment in all streaming since it debuted. And I don't think they share how many "Tulsa King signups" have already dropped.
Swake 02-16-2023, 09:31 PM There is a big difference between a movie and TV show, the most important being TV spans years rather than just a few months.
It's why landing and keeping a big series is such a financial windfall.
Also, mainstream movies will bring almost all their crew with them. A series relies much more on local workers.
The award winning Reservation Dogs will start to film season 3 in the Tulsa area next month.
barrettd 02-17-2023, 06:25 AM It's not like Tulsa King would be required to shoot in the middle of summer moving forward. You can get the same look in April-May or September as you would in July-August. Not to mention plenty of movies/shows shoot summer scenes in winter. And vice versa.
I see it as much more of a strike against Prairie Media than Oklahoma Film in general. That was far and away the biggest project they've had. And it's one and done.
It does kinda feel like Stallone's "living in hell" comment about shooting here might have alternate meanings now.
True. I'm just saying if I could move away from OKC during the 100+ heat for extended days, I'd do it, too.
Edmond Hausfrau 02-17-2023, 08:07 AM True. I'm just saying if I could move away from OKC during the 100+ heat for extended days, I'd do it, too.
Let me know when you figure out a slick way to do this. I've been trying to figure out how to live in Minnesota every summer/fall for the past 20 years. Can't stand Oklahoma heat and wind.
barrettd 02-17-2023, 12:29 PM Let me know when you figure out a slick way to do this. I've been trying to figure out how to live in Minnesota every summer/fall for the past 20 years. Can't stand Oklahoma heat and wind.
It just takes money, so I'll be here for countless more hot summers.
BG918 02-18-2023, 04:51 PM It just takes money, so I'll be here for countless more hot summers.
I invested in a backyard pool. Best $100k I’ve ever spent
jackirons 02-19-2023, 09:54 AM I invested in a backyard pool. Best $100k I’ve ever spent
What company did you use? I've been looking.
Bunty 02-19-2023, 09:54 PM Let me know when you figure out a slick way to do this. I've been trying to figure out how to live in Minnesota every summer/fall for the past 20 years. Can't stand Oklahoma heat and wind.
I find Oklahoma winters worse to put up with. For starters, driving on ice and snow isn't fun. Ever tried driving in a whiteout at night? I did. I got through it fine but told myself I would never do that again. And haven't.
stratosphere 02-20-2023, 05:21 PM I invested in a backyard pool. Best $100k I’ve ever spent
100k seems a bit high for a pool - is inflation that bad or did you just get the best money could buy?
100k seems a bit high for a pool - is inflation that bad or did you just get the best money could buy?
Most companies will tell you their prices start at $80K. Add anything else (water feature, landscaping, etc) and it's hard not to get up to $100K+.
HangryHippo 02-20-2023, 07:10 PM 100k seems a bit high for a pool - is inflation that bad or did you just get the best money could buy?
Have you pool shopped lately? It’s not cheap at all. As Pete said, add in everything else, you’ll be @ 100K easy.
Dob Hooligan 02-20-2023, 07:33 PM I must freely admit I am wrong about Tulsa King not continuing. Just watched a Paramount Plus commercial during a CBS program where the image of Stallone was referred to and shown on the mountain. Ain’t doing that if Tulsa King is stopping.
CatholicSooner 02-20-2023, 10:16 PM I find Oklahoma winters worse to put up with. For starters, driving on ice and snow isn't fun. Ever tried driving in a whiteout at night? I did. I got through it fine but told myself I would never do that again. And haven't.
Meh. Ok doesn’t have bad winters at all
Plutonic Panda 02-21-2023, 03:41 AM Is the information about TK production leaving Oklahoma true or just rumors?
Edit: just read this: https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/tv/2023/02/20/taylor-sheridans-tulsa-king-felt-the-oklahoma-heat-will-reportedly-film-elsewhere/?outputType=amp
Hopefully they’ll reconsider at the last second. I think the weather thing is overstated a bit. Yeah the weather in Oklahoma sucks but where are they going? If they go to Kansas City is the weather that much different? Texas and New Mexico both have less than ideal weather conditions during the summer as well. I think they’re just using that as an excuse. Maybe the production team didn’t like the state, the people, or the politics and don’t want to say it.
There’s been other large productions in Oklahoma. Was there any fuss during those about the weather?
Is the information about TK production leaving Oklahoma true or just rumors?
Both Prairie Surf and the OK TV & Film dept. confirmed they would not be returning to OKC or the state.
BG918 02-21-2023, 07:25 AM Most companies will tell you their prices start at $80K. Add anything else (water feature, landscaping, etc) and it's hard not to get up to $100K+.
Yep basic 15x30 pool 6' deep was $70k built in 2022. Add in the pool deck and landscaping and it was just over $100k. And that was a very basic pool and small backyard.
Plutonic Panda 02-21-2023, 12:56 PM Both Prairie Surf and the OK TV & Film dept. confirmed they would not be returning to OKC or the state.
How damaging is this? There were other major productions here so maybe it won’t be too bad? Didn’t Martin Scorsese say he loves filming in this state? What about the cast and production of Stillwater?
jn1780 02-21-2023, 03:23 PM How damaging is this? There were other major productions here so maybe it won’t be too bad? Didn’t Martin Scorsese say he loves filming in this state? What about the cast and production of Stillwater?
The show generated more money than the movies and was higher profile. That's about 8 hours of content vs a hour and a half movie.
stratosphere 02-21-2023, 05:18 PM Most companies will tell you their prices start at $80K. Add anything else (water feature, landscaping, etc) and it's hard not to get up to $100K+.
Wow had no idea really. I recall my parents had a saltwater diving pool installed at their new house in 2008 or 2009. I thought they said it was $35k and it was a quality decent sized pool.
stratosphere 02-21-2023, 05:20 PM Have you pool shopped lately? It’s not cheap at all. As Pete said, add in everything else, you’ll be @ 100K easy.
No i have not. I do know that when we started looking at hot tubs a few years ago they were around 5k, finally ended up buying one last year and the same model we looked at previously has doubled in price.
Wow had no idea really. I recall my parents had a saltwater diving pool installed at their new house in 2008 or 2009. I thought they said it was $35k and it was a quality decent sized pool.
My family put in a big backyard pool with a diving board and slide in 1967 and I know they paid $5,000.
stratosphere 02-21-2023, 05:41 PM My family put in a big backyard pool with a diving board and slide in 1967 and I know they paid $5,000.
That was probably a lot of money back then :cool:
BG918 02-21-2023, 09:12 PM I wonder if Dwight stays in Tulsa or ends up in KC. The show was originally set there.
FighttheGoodFight 02-23-2023, 07:28 AM I guess they are no longer filming in Oklahoma for season 2. Less than ideal.
PaddyShack 02-23-2023, 11:40 AM Really too bad our state film office couldn't offer them another film company. It sounds shady how Prairie Surf operated and definitely not professional quality. But maybe the show runners/producers had a hand in it by selecting the bottom bidder?
I wonder if Dwight stays in Tulsa or ends up in KC. The show was originally set there.
Actually KCMO has always had and continues to have a pretty huge mafia presence. Vegas was run by those “families”. KC is actually largely responsible for what Las Vagas is today. But I think it would be counter narrative. You can’t have a show about mafia in the middle of nowhere and set it in KC.
Will be a big indignity to the state if the whole show is set in Oklahoma yet none of the filming or production is done here.
baralheia 02-23-2023, 12:26 PM Part of me wonders if the shorter-than-expected first season was the result of friction between the showrunners and Prairie Surf, and contributed to the decision to not return here for filming season 2. Season 1 was originally supposed to be 10 episodes long, but only 9 were delivered, and that finale was noticeably shorter than the other episodes in the series. I doubt we'll ever know for sure, but I did find that incredibly odd. The union labor lockout allegation is troubling too. What a loss for the Oklahoma film industry, for real.
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I bet more on this will come out.
These production teams all talk to each other and most of the crew shifts around to different films and TV shows.
For all the sunny PR and millions in incentives, has Oklahoma really landed anything that has made a significant financial impact other than Tulsa King?
Has Reservation Dogs made any financial impact? I know it's really popular with critics.
BG918 02-23-2023, 01:22 PM Actually KCMO has always had and continues to have a pretty huge mafia presence. Vegas was run by those “families”. KC is actually largely responsible for what Las Vagas is today. But I think it would be counter narrative. You can’t have a show about mafia in the middle of nowhere and set it in KC.
Well it was originally set there but Missouri and Kansas didn't offer the show any incentives so it moved.
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/new-tv-show-originally-called-kansas-city-changed-names-moved-to-tulsa
There is no way they are going to have an ongoing series called Tulsa King and have it set somewhere else.
This leaves the reality that the show will continue to be set in Oklahoma without filming or production here.
Dob Hooligan 06-30-2023, 06:19 AM I continue to see Paramount Plus promote The Family Stallone, and use much of the same descriptions in regard to the shows success and renewal they used on season one of Tulsa King. I think Tulsa King is just gonna slip away. I think Stallone doesn’t want to work away from home and family when he can fulfill his Paramount contract, boost his children’s careers and stay relevant in his late 70s via The Family Stallone.
TheTravellers 06-30-2023, 08:05 AM I continue to see Paramount Plus promote The Family Stallone, and use much of the same descriptions in regard to the shows success and renewal they used on season one of Tulsa King. I think Tulsa King is just gonna slip away. I think Stallone doesn’t want to work away from home and family when he can fulfill his Paramount contract, boost his children’s careers and stay relevant in his late 70s via The Family Stallone.
In addition, reality crap is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper to produce than a scripted show.
Just the facts 06-30-2023, 08:36 AM I continue to see Paramount Plus promote The Family Stallone, and use much of the same descriptions in regard to the shows success and renewal they used on season one of Tulsa King. I think Tulsa King is just gonna slip away. I think Stallone doesn’t want to work away from home and family when he can fulfill his Paramount contract, boost his children’s careers and stay relevant in his late 70s via The Family Stallone.
This^. Tulsa King issues have zero to do with Prairie Surf or the State Film Office. Tulsa King has internal problems.
Jersey Boss 06-30-2023, 09:17 AM The Tusa King premise is a copy of previously done Lilyhammer. Not a fresh storyline.
Just the facts 06-30-2023, 11:42 AM The Tusa King premise is a copy of previously done Lilyhammer. Not a fresh storyline.
99% of all crime dramas come from Sherlock Holmes stories. There is almost nothing 'new'. Just remakes. One can go down to the book store and buy the Complete Works of Sherlock Holmes for $20 and save hundreds of hours of TV time.
Jersey Boss 06-30-2023, 01:21 PM Not influeced but downright copied. Mafia kingpin gets out of prison and gets sent to an area totaly alien. I mean c'mon now.
Midtowner 07-05-2023, 06:47 AM The Tusa King premise is a copy of previously done Lilyhammer. Not a fresh storyline.
Which was done in My Blue Heaven? I think Oklahoma can be as interesting in a fish out of water story as rural Norway...
jn1780 07-05-2023, 07:54 AM The first time someone moved into a new tribe, the "fish out of water" story was created. Humans are complex, but in a lot of ways not that complex.
PhiAlpha 07-05-2023, 02:58 PM Not influeced but downright copied. Mafia kingpin gets out of prison and gets sent to an area totaly alien. I mean c'mon now.
For some reason I hadn't ever thought about that...but you're absolutely correct. Two great mafia actors lol. Might even have a near olympic connection now lol.
It was similarly goofy but I was always disappointed that there weren't more episodes of Lilyhammer. I'm easily entertained and enjoyed it.
PhiAlpha 07-05-2023, 02:58 PM Which was done in My Blue Heaven? I think Oklahoma can be as interesting in a fish out of water story as rural Norway...
Probably as interesting and random to them as a rural Norway is to us lol.
Plutonic Panda 07-05-2023, 03:54 PM Probably as interesting and random to them as a rural Norway is to us lol.
Rural Norway is not to be confused with a potential acquisition of Greenland by the USA with a nice freeway link through the Artic connecting the two as the climate warms and the North Pole ice caps melt. This will greatly enhance trade and shipping routes as well. Norway doesn’t really fit into that picture but if I had to leave America it’d be between Nepal, Australia, or Norway.
Swake 07-05-2023, 07:23 PM Which was done in My Blue Heaven? I think Oklahoma can be as interesting in a fish out of water story as rural Norway...
Funny story about My Blue Heaven, which is great, it was released at the same time as Goodfellas and both movies are based on Henry Hill. Goodfellas was based on the book "Wiseguys" by Nicholas Pileggi who was the late Nora Ephron's husband. Ephron wrote the comedic My Blue Heaven at the same time Pileggi wrote the serious Wiseguys. It's the same, true, story.
Jersey Boss 07-05-2023, 08:52 PM ...
Midtowner 07-09-2023, 11:39 AM Probably as interesting and random to them as a rural Norway is to us lol.
I really enjoyed it. Took kind of a dive into traditional Norwegian music and now I want a Hardanger (sp?) fiddle. Just like a regular fiddle, but with an extra set of strings running (I believe) from under the plaing strings and under the fingerboard for deeper harmonics and resonance. Pretty cool. I'll probably commission one when I have a few extra thousand bucks laying around.
rayvaflav 11-10-2023, 08:16 PM Okay guys and gals, as usual I am always late to the party. Tulsa King was okay but like a lot of you here I watched and was more focused on the shooting locations that I might be familiar with. Because of that I really enjoyed it. I also enjoy all of the pics and the screenshots that you all have posted in this thread. I've noticed a few more locations, anyone got any more pics that they would like to share ?
mugofbeer 11-12-2023, 08:50 PM Tulsa King was a highly watched show. There has still been no announcement of where season 2 will be filmed but apparently not in OK as has been previously discussed on here. What has not been discussed is, like Yellowstone, there may be spinoff franchises that could be based in OK. Hopefully, the main show or spinoffs can return to the state.
Mountaingoat 02-06-2024, 10:41 AM This article states the next season of Tulsa King will be filmed in Atlanta. Ironically, it mentions after that how Stallone may have been bothered by the heat - yet they're going to move production to Atlanta? Hmmm....
https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a42694019/tulsa-king-season-2-release-date-cast-news/
I strongly believe his one comment about the OK heat was blown completely out or proportion. Why, then, are Texas and Georgia popular filming spots?
He made more posts about how much he liked filming here, but that somehow gets overlooked.
I believe they left for other reasons that I won't mention because at this point they are just rumors.
Ginkasa 02-06-2024, 11:48 AM Ugh, I was hoping for better news when I saw this thread got bumped! Didn't love the show, but I did love that it was filmed here.
mugofbeer 02-06-2024, 11:50 AM I'll probably not bother to watch. It was fun spotting out the locations they were filming.
This article states the next season of Tulsa King will be filmed in Atlanta. Ironically, it mentions after that how Stallone may have been bothered by the heat - yet they're going to move production to Atlanta? Hmmm....
https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a42694019/tulsa-king-season-2-release-date-cast-news/
It’s a little more muggy in Atlanta but honestly every time I’ve been there in summer it wasn’t as armadillo killing bad as is here in say August.
baralheia 02-06-2024, 12:55 PM Yeah I personally enjoyed the show and will probably watch season 2, but I'm much less excited about it now knowing they won't be filming here. :(
Dob Hooligan 02-06-2024, 02:39 PM I wonder about the Oklahoma film tax credit fund. I recall that Tula King and Killers Of The Flower Moon maxed out the available amount when they filmed here. But I don't know how much was a one time use fund, and how much might be annually appropriated?
Anonymous. 02-06-2024, 03:06 PM I wonder about the Oklahoma film tax credit fund. I recall that Tula King and Killers Of The Flower Moon maxed out the available amount when they filmed here. But I don't know how much was a one time use fund, and how much might be annually appropriated?
There is a lot of info on this here: https://www.okfilmmusic.org/incentives
But I think it is capped at $30MM in incentives per 1 year if I am understanding the details correctly.
Midtowner 02-07-2024, 09:25 AM Georgia has such a huge film industry compared to Oklahoma. They've invested steadily over many years, we invest in spats and are inconsistent. This is what happens.
Georgia has such a huge film industry compared to Oklahoma. They've invested steadily over many years, we invest in spats and are inconsistent. This is what happens.
This is true. They actually repealed state rebate incentives awhile back 2012 I believe. And now they’re back.one of those good ideas someone else wanted to claim as their own maybe
Oklahoma is very late to this game and it shows.
Jersey Boss 04-09-2024, 09:00 AM https://tvline.com/news/tulsa-king-casting-agency-quits-sylvester-stallone-ugly-background-actors-1235198285/
Casting agency quits in Atlanta. Says Sly was disparaging.
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