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It was originally supposed to be set in and filmed in KC, but Kansas couldn't get anywhere close to the incentives Oklahoma offered for filming.
Not to mention it wouldn’t make any sense. Kansas City has a very significant mafia presence
In fact most of the organized crime in Las Vegas was organized and run out of KCMO
AnguisHerba 12-15-2022, 02:19 PM Not to mention it wouldn’t make any sense. Kansas City has a very significant mafia presence
In fact most of the organized crime in Las Vegas was organized and run out of KCMO
Not sure that's the point, though. Tulsa King was mostly filmed in OKC. It could easily just be filmed in KCMO. The series is still "set" in Tulsa either way.
Ginkasa 12-15-2022, 02:57 PM Not sure that's the point, though. Tulsa King was mostly filmed in OKC. It could easily just be filmed in KCMO. The series is still "set" in Tulsa either way.
In context, he was referring to when the show was originally conceived as "Kansas City King" and taking place that in that city rather than Tulsa.
Dob Hooligan 12-15-2022, 04:49 PM Can anyone share where they are seeing the items about the show moving to KC?
I wonder why CBS news would run a story that gave a full minute to OKC filming of Tulsa King and Prairie Surf Studios this week? They coulda left out the Tulsa King stuff and still run the segment.
I'm also wondering why they would move? Only thing I can make sense of is financial incentives. But I read that Kansas was the filming state previously and couldn't get close to the Oklahoma package.
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The move to KC is all speculation. Nothing official.
catch22 12-15-2022, 05:29 PM Could both be true? Perhaps Season 2 includes a side plot of a trip to Kansas City to take care of "business".
Mississippi Blues 12-15-2022, 11:51 PM Could both be true? Perhaps Season 2 includes a side plot of a trip to Kansas City to take care of "business".
I feel like this is the most logical possibility. Rumors often seem to mimic a balance scale. Start out with something heavy that disrupts what is understood, then teeters back and forth with conjecture that deals with a mixture of established knowledge and assumptions before reality is finally balanced out somewhere between it all.
Anonymous. 12-16-2022, 08:08 AM I'm sure it didn't help that they did the majority of filming during the summer which was in the top 20 hottest summers for the state on record.
OKC had 22 days over 100F. The average is 10.
OKC had 92 days over 90F. The average is 69.
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And you can see by watching the show, a ton of the filming was done outside.
Paule4ou 12-16-2022, 08:55 AM https://www.moviemaker.com/tulsa-king-the-new-sylvester-stallone-series-was-originally-set-in-kansas-city/
Dob Hooligan 12-16-2022, 08:59 AM This is not meant to be a smart aleck statement. It gets hot in the summer. OKC, Kansas City, Dallas, etc. Anyplace in the central US gets hot.
TheTravellers 12-16-2022, 09:20 AM This is not meant to be a smart aleck statement. It gets hot in the summer. OKC, Kansas City, Dallas, etc. Anyplace in the central US gets hot.
There's a difference between "regular" hot and "one of the 20 hottest on record" hot.
Anonymous. 12-16-2022, 09:31 AM This is not meant to be a smart aleck statement. It gets hot in the summer. OKC, Kansas City, Dallas, etc. Anyplace in the central US gets hot.
I mean "hot" is relative to the person and location. Humidity has massive factor in any human's perception of heat. But as for the air temperature data:
Kansas City isn't even in the same solar system as OKC or Dallas. Kansas City has had 5 days of 100 degrees or warmer in the last decade. And 3 of them were summer 2022.
Dallas, was indeed much hotter than OKC this year. They had a top 4 hottest summer.
Dob Hooligan 12-16-2022, 10:29 AM I'm guessing the average high temperature difference between OKC and KC in July and August is 5 degrees or less? OKC and Dallas is closer to 3?
It is not common for KC to be 77 degrees, OKC to be 102 and Dallas to be 107.
TheTravellers 12-16-2022, 11:01 AM I'm guessing the average high temperature difference between OKC and KC in July and August is 5 degrees or less? OKC and Dallas is closer to 3?
It is not common for KC to be 77 degrees, OKC to be 102 and Dallas to be 107.
NOAA says KC's average high in July is 89, August is 88; OKC is 94 and 93; Dallas is 96 and 96.
mugofbeer 12-16-2022, 08:33 PM Does anyone know where the horse ranch is that was used in ep. 3?
Ginkasa 12-18-2022, 09:45 AM Today's episode is pretty exciting. Things continue to ramp up.
Dust Bowl featured permission in a scene.
Does anyone know where the horse ranch is that was used in ep. 3?
Someone said it is this ranch in Jones:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/E+Wilshire+Blvd+%26+N+Choctaw+Rd,+Jones,+OK+73049/@35.551889,-97.2760891,805m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b22565a943ec47:0x19068 2bbba09167a!8m2!3d35.551147!4d-97.2737502
Rover 12-18-2022, 11:46 AM Someone said it is this ranch in Jones:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/E+Wilshire+Blvd+%26+N+Choctaw+Rd,+Jones,+OK+73049/@35.551889,-97.2760891,805m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b22565a943ec47:0x19068 2bbba09167a!8m2!3d35.551147!4d-97.2737502
The fencing and grounds look a lot like Aspen Ranch north of Edmond.
OKC Guide 12-20-2022, 11:41 PM Missy's Donuts in Sunday's episode, the location on Wentz. If you've never been up to Guthrie for this, you're missing out.
TheTravellers 12-21-2022, 08:29 AM Missy's Donuts in Sunday's episode, the location on Wentz. If you've never been up to Guthrie for this, you're missing out.
:yeahthat: We've tried lots of donuts all over and yes, Missy's is great, only had them once, but man, they're better than any we've had in OKC (yes, better than Hurts).
The flower shop in the last episode was in Film Row.
Ginkasa 12-21-2022, 01:35 PM I appreciated how much OKC was standing in not just for Tulsa but also NYC. And not just interior shots like the flower shop but at least a couple of shots outside downtown as well.
New episode dropped today, and strangely the title is 'Warr Acres'.
A scene was filmed at the Sante Fe Station (first two images) and Sly dined with Dana Delaney at the Park Avenue Grill in the Skrivin.
There was a scene at a drive in theater but it wasn't the Winchester... Anybody know where?
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rte66man 12-25-2022, 11:37 AM Is that the Chief in Chickasha?
DowntownMan 12-28-2022, 08:00 PM There was a scene at a drive in theater but it wasn't the Winchester... Anybody know
It’s the beacon in Guthrie
Edmond Hausfrau 12-28-2022, 08:24 PM It’s the beacon in Guthrie
Made famous by getting ripped apart in Twister when it subbed for ?Waurika?Watonga? Some small burg with a TastyFreeze.
Season finale debuted today. Several scenes shot on the rooftop pool deck of West Village.
Now we wait to see if they'll continue to film in OKC when they start production of the 2nd season.
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BoulderSooner 01-08-2023, 03:14 PM Season finale debuted today.
season finale is next week ep 10 i believe ..
OKCisOK4me 01-08-2023, 04:32 PM Someone said it is this ranch in Jones:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/E+Wilshire+Blvd+%26+N+Choctaw+Rd,+Jones,+OK+73049/@35.551889,-97.2760891,805m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b22565a943ec47:0x19068 2bbba09167a!8m2!3d35.551147!4d-97.2737502
The training grounds look to be near NE 71st and Choctaw Road...just north and east of that intersection.
barrettd 01-09-2023, 06:56 AM season finale is next week ep 10 i believe ..
It sure felt like a finale, so I had to check IMDB and saw what you see, finale next week. Weird episode if not the finale.
Also can we talk about the bar owner's cringey singing at the end?
I also got a big kick out of Bodhi's nod to the actor's role on Silicon Valley. A nothing line for most, no doubt, but I loved it.
DowntownMan 01-11-2023, 05:10 PM It sure felt like a finale, so I had to check IMDB and saw what you see, finale next week. Weird episode if not the finale.
Also can we talk about the bar owner's cringey singing at the end?
I also got a big kick out of Bodhi's nod to the actor's role on Silicon Valley. A nothing line for most, no doubt, but I loved it.
Episode 9 was the finale.
Episode 9 was the finale.
Correct. That's a wrap on the first season.
As I said, the big question is if Season 2 will be shot in OKC.
If not, I'm out. It was fun to pick out the local scenes but even that wore off. I found myself pretty disinterested in the characters and story line.
sooner88 01-12-2023, 07:40 AM Correct. That's a wrap on the first season.
As I said, the big question is if Season 2 will be shot in OKC.
If not, I'm out. It was fun to pick out the local scenes but even that wore off. I found myself pretty disinterested in the characters and story line.
I'm in the same boat. While it was fun to see OKC throughout the show, I thought the storyline was boring and the writing was horrible.
PhiAlpha 01-29-2023, 01:23 PM LOL, dang guys I guess I’m just really easily entertained. I’m 3 episodes in and really enjoying it so far. :D
barrettd 01-29-2023, 06:49 PM LOL, dang guys I guess I’m just really easily entertained. I’m 3 episodes in and really enjoying it so far. :D
Don't let us kill your buzz. It's certainly enjoyable!
stratosphere 01-31-2023, 05:16 PM We are enjoying it as well.
GaryOKC6 02-01-2023, 01:28 PM I believe that Prairie Surf is contracted to do 70 episodes.
Ginkasa 02-01-2023, 02:42 PM Hopefully that's true and the concerns about them possibly moving production are baseless. But I don't think we've seen anything concrete yet about it.
One of the show runners is stepping down:
https://www.thewrap.com/tulsa-king-showrunner-terence-winter-steps-down-search-for-new-showrunner-under-way/amp/
barrettd 02-10-2023, 06:08 AM One of the show runners is stepping down:
https://www.thewrap.com/tulsa-king-showrunner-terence-winter-steps-down-search-for-new-showrunner-under-way/amp/
That might not be a bad thing. I guess we'll find out next season.
According to NewsOk this won’t be filming in Oklahoma for the 2nd season. I couldn’t read it because of a paywall but here it is: https://www.oklahoman.com/restricted/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oklahoman.com%2Fstory%2F entertainment%2F2023%2F02%2F15%2Foklahoma-tulsa-king-season-2-paramount-plus-sylvester-stallone-not-filming-in-state%2F69908806007%2F
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Praire Surf and the Oklahoma Film + Music Office both say Tulsa King has decided to go elsewhere but they aren't sure where.
All types of spin by Prairie Surf but there is no way to see this as anything other than a negative towards them. TK was obviously unhappy in OKC and that really hurts trying to recruit anything new because all these production groups talk, especially after one has had experience in a new area.
scottk 02-15-2023, 07:17 PM ^
Praire Surf and the Oklahoma Film + Music Office both say Tulsa King has decided to go elsewhere but they aren't sure where.
All types of spin by Prairie Surf but there is no way to see this as anything other than a negative towards them. TK was obviously unhappy in OKC and that really hurts trying to recruit anything new because all these production groups talk, especially after one has had experience in a new area.
Speculation...
-Did the Film/TV Tax Credit run out/was not offered for Season 2 of Tulsa King?
-Given the size of the production, did Oklahoma have enough people behind the scenes to help support the shooting schedule, or did support production staff have to be brought in from out of state, this could get costly as this was multiple episodes shot over multiple weeks/months?
-Did someone on the crew or cast simply not like downtime in Oklahoma, the weather, the politics, access to certain services, etc?
The closest similarity I can think of for Tulsa King would be something like AMC Breaking Bad's first season in ABQ. One thing that help the show stand out was all of the on site locations and topography that New Mexico offered. Luckily for them, additional seasons continued (And Better Call Saul) to be shot in and around Albuquerque.
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Praire Surf and the Oklahoma Film + Music Office both say Tulsa King has decided to go elsewhere but they aren't sure where.
All types of spin by Prairie Surf but there is no way to see this as anything other than a negative towards them. TK was obviously unhappy in OKC and that really hurts trying to recruit anything new because all these production groups talk, especially after one has had experience in a new area.
Bummer.
More religious movies it is, then.
Ginkasa 02-15-2023, 09:24 PM Well heck that's disappointing.
barrettd 02-16-2023, 06:13 AM Speculation...
-Did the Film/TV Tax Credit run out/was not offered for Season 2 of Tulsa King?
-Given the size of the production, did Oklahoma have enough people behind the scenes to help support the shooting schedule, or did support production staff have to be brought in from out of state, this could get costly as this was multiple episodes shot over multiple weeks/months?
-Did someone on the crew or cast simply not like downtime in Oklahoma, the weather, the politics, access to certain services, etc?
The closest similarity I can think of for Tulsa King would be something like AMC Breaking Bad's first season in ABQ. One thing that help the show stand out was all of the on site locations and topography that New Mexico offered. Luckily for them, additional seasons continued (And Better Call Saul) to be shot in and around Albuquerque.
I could totally understand, after last summer's heat, not wanting to return to OKC during the hottest months. If I had a choice to be somewhere else when it's 100 degrees for weeks on end I'd take it, too.
Hopefully it's not a beacon that the entertainment business in OK is over just as it was getting started.
The incentives did not expire; Tulsa King merely didn't apply for them for the next year.
As far as the weather, there is tons of filming in Texas which is every bit as hot or hotter.
This is a huge loss for OKC and a black eye on our burgeoning movie/TV industry.
soonergolfer 02-16-2023, 06:39 AM I don’t think you realize how hot it is in Georgia in the summer and there are tons of film production going on there. I guarantee you that the heat index is higher there than in OKC.
CatholicSooner 02-16-2023, 08:00 AM Anyone find out which ranch they filmed the scenes with dana delaney's character?
Sydonesia 02-16-2023, 09:47 AM I could totally understand, after last summer's heat, not wanting to return to OKC during the hottest months. If I had a choice to be somewhere else when it's 100 degrees for weeks on end I'd take it, too.
Hopefully it's not a beacon that the entertainment business in OK is over just as it was getting started.
It's not like Tulsa King would be required to shoot in the middle of summer moving forward. You can get the same look in April-May or September as you would in July-August. Not to mention plenty of movies/shows shoot summer scenes in winter. And vice versa.
I see it as much more of a strike against Prairie Media than Oklahoma Film in general. That was far and away the biggest project they've had. And it's one and done.
It does kinda feel like Stallone's "living in hell" comment about shooting here might have alternate meanings now.
I know lots of people in the TV & film industry; I'm going to ask around and see what the TK production crew is saying behind the scenes.
Ginkasa 02-16-2023, 09:52 AM I know an actress in LA (been in a couple of movies you may have heard of it and costarred on a few TV shows, etc.) who is very enthusiastic about OKC's burgeoning film scene. Hopefully this big of a production moving out isn't a backslide on that promise.
I know it's not the same thing, but wonder why the Killers of the Flower Moon shoot seemed to be relatively smooth/positive and the Tulsa King tenure was so tumultuous. Hell, a showrunner left . People obviously weren't happy. I'm interested to see what else comes out on this.
I know it's not the same thing, but wonder why the Killers of the Flower Moon shoot seemed to be relatively smooth/positive and the Tulsa King tenure was so tumultuous. Hell, a showrunner left . People obviously weren't happy. I'm interested to see what else comes out on this.
There is a big difference between a movie and TV show, the most important being TV spans years rather than just a few months.
It's why landing and keeping a big series is such a financial windfall.
Also, mainstream movies will bring almost all their crew with them. A series relies much more on local workers.
I know it's not the same thing, but wonder why the Killers of the Flower Moon shoot seemed to be relatively smooth/positive and the Tulsa King tenure was so tumultuous. Hell, a showrunner left . People obviously weren't happy. I'm interested to see what else comes out on this.
I noticed they leaned on some Yokel tropes pretty hard in the series. Maybe they split because they were going to double down? I largely thought any representation of locals as being very off. Almost to the point that they were trying to do so.
CatholicSooner 02-16-2023, 11:20 AM I noticed they leaned on some Yokel tropes pretty hard in the series. Maybe they split because they were going to double down? I largely thought any representation of locals as being very off. Almost to the point that they were trying to do so.
I didn't really get that from teh show at all but I also wasn't looking for it
Dob Hooligan 02-16-2023, 11:27 AM This is pure speculation on my part, but they might not be doing any more episodes.
There continues to be major shakeups in streaming, and Paramount/Showtime is doing some serious budget reorganization. If Tulsa King was a weak performer under a previous regime, the Taylor Sheridan camp has decided to go all in on the Yellowstone universe, and Mr. Stallone has decided at his age and with marriage issues on the front burner...
Might be better to let it slip away
This is pure speculation on my part, but they might not be doing any more episodes.
There continues to be major shakeups in streaming, and Paramount/Showtime is doing some serious budget reorganization. If Tulsa King was a weak performer under a previous regime, the Taylor Sheridan camp has decided to go all in on the Yellowstone universe, and Mr. Stallone has decided at his age and with marriage issues on the front burner...
Might be better to let it slip away
Tulsa King hasn't been a weak performer, it's gotten good ratings.
The show is definitely coming back; they announced that before the end of the first season.
It was extremely popular and drove a lot of new subscribers to Paramount+.
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