They are planning a massive expansion at the 2nd and I-35 location with a new parking garage and on site hotel:

https://www.facebook.com/100000136123063/posts/5597478263599989/?d=n

Whoa. Wonder if that means they’re moving their HQ from the 178th and Penn location

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Thanks for posting the graphics. I’m on my phone so I wasn’t able.

While I like this development, Edmond is kind of selling its soul for this. Won't every inch of this be exempt from property taxes?

I hope this turns out to be a high-quality development for LC and Edmond, though.

I’m really divided on the issue should churches pay taxes or not. I think they should be required to pay for traffic and utility improvements at the least.

While I like this development, Edmond is kind of selling its soul for this. Won't every inch of this be exempt from property taxes?

I hope this turns out to be a high-quality development for LC and Edmond, though.

All this property has been owned by life church and preceding church so there isn’t any change from what has been in past.

All this property has been owned by life church and preceding church so there isn’t any change from what has been in past.

True, but it was mostly empty. Now they want to have 5 or 6 new buildings, which will take a toll on city infrastructure. And a hotel, which will not have to charge hotel and motel taxes, most likely. It is not anywhere near its purpose as a Church, and is bordering into taxable business income, which the church will have to pay tax on. Just my two cents.

True, but it was mostly empty. Now they want to have 5 or 6 new buildings, which will take a toll on city infrastructure. And a hotel, which will not have to charge hotel and motel taxes, most likely. It is not anywhere near its purpose as a Church, and is bordering into taxable business income, which the church will have to pay tax on. Just my two cents.

They are a large nationwide non profit organization. The business offices will be for their own support operations. The hotel I expect will be for their own use for staff from around country coming into Main offices and for groups/speakers they host.

Not a life churcher or agree with their ways completely. Just stating my thoughts.

The economy is destructing and inflation is crushing society. So much good could be done with what this will cost but gotta be the megaest of the mega churches.

What a scam

Non-profit, cough, cough.

That's a lot of office space. You know, for a site that is a church and totally not a business.

Totally.

Is this project under construction? It looks like there’s a crane on the site.

Is this project under construction? It looks like there’s a crane on the site.

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This is on Edmond planning agenda for today.

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This is on Edmond planning agenda for today.

Anyone know what the staff count is for the youversion development team. That's a good size building.

The building is an AHMM design:

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Foundation and dirt work for First phase19285 of this campus is well underway19285

This whole church revolves around one man.

That's risky. What happens when he can no longer give a message?

This is not sustainable in my opinion.

True, but it was mostly empty. Now they want to have 5 or 6 new buildings, which will take a toll on city infrastructure. And a hotel, which will not have to charge hotel and motel taxes, most likely. It is not anywhere near its purpose as a Church, and is bordering into taxable business income, which the church will have to pay tax on. Just my two cents.

Would you say the same thing about The Gates foundation or the Mayo Clinic having an on-campus hotel?

This whole church revolves around one man.

That's risky. What happens when he can no longer give a message?

This is not sustainable in my opinion.

You mean Jesus? lol

I haven't been to Life Church in years, but I remember there being plenty of times where other pastors have spoken(He does take vacations you know). Life Church would find a new leader if/when Craig Groeschel passes away or retires.

Would you say the same thing about The Gates foundation or the Mayo Clinic having an on-campus hotel?

That's a bit of a reach.

Would you say the same thing about The Gates foundation or the Mayo Clinic having an on-campus hotel?

lol. The Mayo Clinic having a hotel?

Yes.

lol. The Mayo Clinic having a hotel?

I can't speak to the Mayo Clinic but Integris Baptist has a hotel.

I'm not a lawyer but I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express once.......

Whether they should collect and remit sales and hotel/motel taxes would depend on whether the Hotel is open to the general public or just for attendees of various conferences, etc the church is putting on. I'm sure they will argue that the hotel is a church function if the former. I'm also certain this will end up in court.