OKC will soon get one of the first stand-alone Genesis dealerships in the country. The very first just opened last month.

This will be called Edmond Genesis, but it's actually in OKC which is great for sales tax collection.

Genesis had been selling out of the Hyundai dealership directly east and is a real comer with their cars getting generally rave reviews.



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until 2015 it was sold as the Hyundai Genesis ..... really like the AMG brand .. as far as separation .... very cool that okc is getting this

I've driven a Hyundai Genesis for almost 13 years... one of the first models sold in the US. My next car will be a Genesis.

noice!

can't hear the name 'genesis' without instantly thinking of this...
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yes, i'm a dork.

We were in NYC in December on vacation and were wandering around the Meatpacking district when we happened upon the Genesis House. The exterior of the building was super intriguing, so we decided to check it out. Didn't know it was a special showroom for Genesis vehicles when we walked in. WOW. It was amazing. It was far more of a Korean art installation than it was a dealer showroom. A few cars here and there, but a ton of beautiful interior exhibits which were created to display the intricate attention to detail and styling of the brand itself. Everyone in our group left with high opinions of the brand and what they're trying to do. We didn't dine at their restaurant at the Genesis House but did explore the whole concept. Just super cool stuff, hard to explain.

Here's a link. Anywho, I'm amped to have a Genesis dealer in OKC. I'm considering the GV80 for our next SUV.

https://genesishouse.com/us/en/nyc/index.html

Where Lexus, Acura and Infiniti all seem to have lost their way in the last decade or so, Genesis seems to be stepping into the market they formerly held.

They remind me of Lexus in the 80s where they offered a great quality and value proposition paired with an excellent dealership experience.

The only thing lacking for Genesis has been having to go through a Hyundai dealership. Looks like that is going to change, and fast.

And both Hyundai and Kia are absolutely killing it these days. Where once the Japanese dominated, the Koreans seem to be beating them at their own game. They also seem to be a step or two ahead in the EV market.

Man, all for new business and what not, but that stretch of Kelly from 33rd to Memorial is just so awful. And this is only going to make it worse.


Other than that, zero gripes. This will be a welcome addition to that area of car dealerships.

Where Lexus, Acura and Infiniti all seem to have lost their way in the last decade or so, Genesis seems to be stepping into the market they formerly held.

They remind me of Lexus in the 80s where they offered a great quality and value proposition paired with an excellent dealership experience.

The only thing lacking for Genesis has been having to go through a Hyundai dealership. Looks like that is going to change, and fast.

And both Hyundai and Kia are absolutely killing it these days. Where once the Japanese dominated, the Koreans seem to be beating them at their own game. They also seem to be a step or two ahead in the EV market.

no doubt hyundai has made huge strides over what it was in the 80's. while i generally agree that acura and (especially) infiniti have "lost their way", my subjective option is that lexus is still excellent quality-to-value. i will say that i've had mixed experiences with their dealers: great experiences in both tulsa and dallas but less than stellar experiences here in okc.

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I didn't mean the quality has gone down, just that they are no longer innovative and the brief advantage they once enjoyed in the marketplace has largely vanished.

I own a Lexus now and owned one just before this car and both have been fantastic. In fact, I will have had my current car 19 (!) years this June and it still looks and runs like the day I bought it. I keep saying, "one more year and then I'll buy a new one" and then the years pass, there is nothing wrong with a car that has been paid off for 18 years, and I can't justify the expense.


However, if I was buying a car today I'd choose Genesis over Lexus, especially now that they will have dedicated dealerships.

I also really like the Kia EV6.

Kia, Hyundai and Genesis seem to be well ahead of the game in terms of EVs and that's where all the future growth will happen.

^gotcha... that makes sense.

i'm in a similar situation, but don't think i'll make it 19 years. i know i'll at least test drive a genesis when the time comes. it's a tiny detail, but the genesis models have a shifter dial instead of a lever. several other automakers have gone that route and it's a huge negative for my tastes.

totally agree on ev's... toyota/lexus largely bet on hydrogen and that seems like a dead end. they're definitely playing catch-up in the ev market. i'll also say that their ui/ux on their navigation units is more than a few years behind their competitors.

The Japanese makers in general seem well behind in terms of EVs.

Toyota was ahead of its time with the Prius but then has done very little. Nissan and Honda seem to be worse off.

Ford and GM are doing a better job with EVs than the Japanese. The new Mustang is a great start and the Chevy Bolt was somewhat groundbreaking.

I'm still a big Honda fan (my favorite car of all time was an Acura) but I would probably buy a Mazda (another Japanese company way off the EV pace; Subaru and Mistu are the same) over them if I was to buy today. At this point, I would look hardest at plug-in hybrids because I'm not willing to go way out of my way and sit and charge for half an hour or more every 200-300 miles of a road trip.


It's one of the reasons I continue to hold onto my current car. The market is moving super fast and I know in another 2-3 years the EVs and plug-in hybrids will be much more evolved.

With a PHEV, I could do 95% of my driving on electric and then be able to fall back on gas for the occasional long trip.

totally agree on the japanese manufacturers... what's crazy is that all three of those (toyota/nissan/honda) had "eco-conscious" models way ahead of any domestic manufacturer, but none of them ever took that knowledge and tried to apply it to a mainstream option... and now they're all playing catch-up.

besides range issues, my main concern with ev is longevity. i may be wrong, but i doubt any of today's batteries are going to be holding a charge 19 years from now. consumers who are used to keeping their vehicles longer will find that they are forced to replace much sooner than before.

totally agree on the japanese manufacturers... what's crazy is that all three of those (toyota/nissan/honda) had "eco-conscious" models way ahead of any domestic manufacturer, but none of them ever took that knowledge and tried to apply it to a mainstream option... and now they're all playing catch-up.

besides range issues, my main concern with ev is longevity. i may be wrong, but i doubt any of today's batteries are going to be holding a charge 19 years from now. consumers who are used to keeping their vehicles longer will find that they are forced to replace much sooner than before.

Supposedly, my MINI Cooper SE's battery has a life of ~20 years, it's based on some older tech (same as the BMW i3's battery). Guess we'll see in a decade or so...

Supposedly, my MINI Cooper SE's battery has a life of ~20 years, it's based on some older tech (same as the BMW i3's battery). Guess we'll see in a decade or so...

hopefully that holds true for you and it's not the same marketing math as a "50 year roof"

Toyota just dropped their new EV. https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/business/toyota-bz4x-review/index.html

NPR has a pretty good question and answer with an EV expert - a comment he made is the computer chip is the new oil, and the Taiwan is the new middle east. EV's have about 100 chips compared to 10 in a combustible engine. I tried to find the interview on their site - it just aired on radio this AM. Very interesting.

Waymo, the autonomous driving Google spinoff, is already up and running as taxis in Phoenix and San Fransisco.

We've been hearing about this for so long that somehow this is happening and few people realize it.

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/waymo-zooming-around-central-phoenix-on-a-mission-12488954


They are also working on autonomous trucks and delivery vehicles. The possibilities are endless and all of a sudden, we are getting very close on many fronts.

With continued refinement -- the taxis can already recognize hand signals from police and construction zone workers -- this technology will likely result in safer roads, rather than the fear of them running amok.

There will always be the need for centralized humans to intercede in certain situations, but it's one of those technologies that is advancing very fast and we will likely see some very big shifts in the near future.

hopefully that holds true for you and it's not the same marketing math as a "50 year roof"

Yeah, me too. But the ~20 year lifespan I posted seems to be science-based (found it on the net), not marketing-speak from the dealer or manufacturer. Here's the thread I read:

https://www.insideevsforum.com/community/index.php?threads/battery-chemistry.12889/

besides range issues, my main concern with ev is longevity. i may be wrong, but i doubt any of today's batteries are going to be holding a charge 19 years from now. consumers who are used to keeping their vehicles longer will find that they are forced to replace much sooner than before.

At the same time, EVs have far fewer moving parts which should result in lower maintenance and greater longevity, apart from the battery issues.

This is about the best case use for that land. Good to see

At the same time, EVs have far fewer moving parts which should result in lower maintenance and greater longevity, apart from the battery issues.

Almost no standard maintenance - mine is to check the coolant and windshield washer fluid, then take it back in 2 years from now just for a check. Brake wear is going to be almost nonexistent due to regenerative braking, so no brake pads to change every whenever....

Love, love, love my 2021 Genesis GV80... had to wait a few weeks for it after deciding to purchase, but it was well worth the wait. Bought my wife a beautiful 2022 Genesis GV70 and that was one of the best gifts she's gotten in our 30-year marriage (her words).

While I'm excited for a standalone Genesis dealership, if it's connected at all to the ownership of Edmond Hyundai, I'll continuing to drive past it on my way to Automax Hyundai/Genesis of Norman. I've had the best experiences from sales (with an awesome rep I've used and referred to) to service. Every experience with the Edmond dealership has been either lacking or downright frustrating.

I'm glad to see standalone dealerships I wish Kia would move the Stinger to Genesis. The biggest complaint of people buying higher end cars from Kia or Hyundai is the dealership experience. A lot of buy here pay here finance shops that just want to check your credit. I think having a standalone dealership for Genesis across the US will help their sales.

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The low-key and professional dealership is what drew me to Lexus.

They just make everything so easy and pleasant. I would go in often and never felt pressure to buy. With every other type of dealership, I will now only go in after making a deal on the Internet. In fact, the last car I bought (I had it simultaneously with my Lexus) was a Porsche and I never stepped foot in the dealership. I found what I wanted online, struck the deal and paid for it, then they drove the car to me.

I'm only a year into owning it, but I absolutely love my Honda Accord hybrid. ~40 mpg for my normal usage, some months I barely have to fill up at all.

Honda just announced they are spending $64 billion on EVs and want to come up with 30 new models.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/honda-says-spend-64-billion-rd-it-revs-up-electric-ambitions-2022-04-12/

very good on Taiwan!

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Uuuuuggghhhhh. That stretch of Kelly is just so...so bad. But other than that, good use of that space.

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Thank you for this shot, Pete. The city needs to do something about this section of the road ASAP.

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Is this owned by the same criminals, I mean people, that own Edmond Hyundai? If so, be very careful doing business there and have a good lawyer on stand-by. They literally tried to steal my car while I was on a test drive. Had to get the police involved.

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Can you please tell us the full story?

Did they pull the old "misplaced your car keys " scam on you?

Is this owned by the same criminals, I mean people, that own Edmond Hyundai? If so, be very careful doing business there and have a good lawyer on stand-by. They literally tried to steal my car while I was on a test drive. Had to get the police involved.
Please give details.

Please give details.

This was several years back. I was looking for a new car and decided to look at the Genesis. On a Friday or Saturday (don’t remember), me and a friend went looking at new cars. When we got to Edmond Criminals, I mean Edmond Hyundai, I couldn’t dream of the evil they brought to the table. After the fact, I heard they did this to other people too.

Anyway, I wanted to test drive the Genesis and they agreed. But first, they took us to a room and discussed test driving it over the weekend. We thought that was a cool idea, but asked for some type of document saying that if we returned it Monday morning, we wouldn’t be forced to buy it. They brought of the paperwork, and I signed it (with my friend as a witness). However, they took it before we were able to get a picture of it with my cellphone. We kind of assumed they we would get a copy since they took it right away, but as this was a planned scam, they didn’t provide us a copy. This is a very valuable lesson, always take pictures in situations like this, as this was my biggest mistake (but I would have never imagined a business being this crooked).

So, the car was much bigger/longer than I wanted, so we returned the car well within the allotted time. However, upon getting to the dealership, we noticed that they trapped my car between the building (where I parked) and another one of their cars parked directly behind my car, such that it could not move… they trapped me. Fortunately, I still had my keys (likely my saving grace, or the car would have likely been gone). They tried to convince me that since I kept the car over the weekend, I really bought it. I brought up the document that we signed stating it was a test drive and they claimed they couldn’t find one and denied having one in the first place. I assumed they shredded it before we left on our test drive.

After a couple of hours arguing with them and being threatened since they had my driver’s license and insurance, I called another friend who knew a lot more about the law (he would make an excellent lawyer). When he got there, the scene we made started disturbing other potential victims, I mean customers, so they called the cops. The cops escorted my friend off the property, as they knew he was calling them out as scam artists. After another hour, they finally agreed that I did not buy the car and moved their blocking car so I could leave… after reminding my they are doing me a “favor” and they still had all my information.

While my buying experience wasn't nearly as bad as bamarsha, I will admit they came off pretty sleazy, even compared to Toyota dealers (last recent purchase). It feels like the brand has elevated itself (particularly with Genesis) but the dealers haven't. It will be interesting to see if the Genesis experience is elevated, to equal Lexus etc.

While my buying experience wasn't nearly as bad as bamarsha, I will admit they came off pretty sleazy, even compared to Toyota dealers (last recent purchase). It feels like the brand has elevated itself (particularly with Genesis) but the dealers haven't. It will be interesting to see if the Genesis experience is elevated, to equal Lexus etc.

To balance the bad and good “reviews”, since not all dealerships are that bad…

I bought my last two cars from Bob Moore Mazda and they were great. Of course, I took a laptop with a spreadsheet of every fee and cost I could find (including the dealer holdback). I showed them what I though was a fair price (based on KBB, Black Book, etc.) that gave them a fair profit (including my trade-in). We agreed and I had a new car (which means I probably overpaid a little). The second car was the same method. The funny thing, while I forgot names, my first car was bought by a father and my second car from his son that also worked there.

To balance the bad and good “reviews”, since not all dealerships are that bad…

I bought my last two cars from Bob Moore Mazda and they were great. Of course, I took a laptop with a spreadsheet of every fee and cost I could find (including the dealer holdback). I showed them what I though was a fair price (based on KBB, Black Book, etc.) that gave them a fair profit (including my trade-in). We agreed and I had a new car (which means I probably overpaid a little). The second car was the same method. The funny thing, while I forgot names, my first car was bought by a father and my second car from his son that also worked there.

This is why people just want to order cars online. The need to haggle this much is just a waste of time.

I’ve always had excellent service from Bob Moore Mazda. My most recent car purchase was from Volvo. They were pretty good, especially when I informed them I wouldn’t blow them off after test driving a few models. I just needed to find what I liked.

This was several years back. I was looking for a new car and decided to look at the Genesis. On a Friday or Saturday (don’t remember), me and a friend went looking at new cars. When we got to Edmond Criminals, I mean Edmond Hyundai, I couldn’t dream of the evil they brought to the table. After the fact, I heard they did this to other people too.

Anyway, I wanted to test drive the Genesis and they agreed. But first, they took us to a room and discussed test driving it over the weekend. We thought that was a cool idea, but asked for some type of document saying that if we returned it Monday morning, we wouldn’t be forced to buy it. They brought of the paperwork, and I signed it (with my friend as a witness). However, they took it before we were able to get a picture of it with my cellphone. We kind of assumed they we would get a copy since they took it right away, but as this was a planned scam, they didn’t provide us a copy. This is a very valuable lesson, always take pictures in situations like this, as this was my biggest mistake (but I would have never imagined a business being this crooked).

So, the car was much bigger/longer than I wanted, so we returned the car well within the allotted time. However, upon getting to the dealership, we noticed that they trapped my car between the building (where I parked) and another one of their cars parked directly behind my car, such that it could not move… they trapped me. Fortunately, I still had my keys (likely my saving grace, or the car would have likely been gone). They tried to convince me that since I kept the car over the weekend, I really bought it. I brought up the document that we signed stating it was a test drive and they claimed they couldn’t find one and denied having one in the first place. I assumed they shredded it before we left on our test drive.

After a couple of hours arguing with them and being threatened since they had my driver’s license and insurance, I called another friend who knew a lot more about the law (he would make an excellent lawyer). When he got there, the scene we made started disturbing other potential victims, I mean customers, so they called the cops. The cops escorted my friend off the property, as they knew he was calling them out as scam artists. After another hour, they finally agreed that I did not buy the car and moved their blocking car so I could leave… after reminding my they are doing me a “favor” and they still had all my information.

ha I think they were the ones that briefly had an Alfa Romeo dealership and I went to go buy an Alfa, a Giulia and I was just like, f*ck it, we're just going to go buy one, and we had such a stunningly terrible experience that I was like, I would sooner die than ever buy a car from that dealership, it was just so classically slimy and terrible, sales guys were huge pricks, especially to my wife, very weirdly classist and talked down to me even though they were clearly neither that well paid nor knowledgable about the product and the whole experience was just BAD. I'm sort of bummed wwe don't have an alfa dealer anymore because I still will likely buy a Giulia before too long and driving it to Fort Worth or a Dodge / Chrysler dealer sounds awful, but probably not as awful as dealing with them again.

Anecdotally, I bought a 2023 Genesis GV80t from Edmond Hyundai and the process was simple and quick. I knew what I wanted. They had one in stock. I knew the fair value. I paid it.

I didn't have any issues and the experience during my test drive and subsequent visits has been fine.

If I had one criticism it would be that the service area could be much nicer. Hopefully the new standalone Genesis dealership will include it's own service department.

Bamarsha, sucks that you had that experience. I don't think nicknames is an effective way to convince your reader of your lack of bias. Just my 2 cents.

Prior to these dedicated Genesis dealerships, you basically had to deal with Hyundai personnel and service.

These new facilities should mean a completely different experience, from shopping to service. There are certain standards they have to maintain monitored by the national organization.

I recently bought a Genesis (good experience) and it's amazing, especially for the price. Part of the purchase was knowing there would soon be a dedicated dealer for any service issues and the new facility is pretty amazing.

I like the fact you don't see many Genesis vehicles on the road but I'm sure that is going to change, as it's a young brand and this new network of dealerships is going to result in lots more sales.

I like the fact you don't see many Genesis vehicles on the road but I'm sure that is going to change, as it's a young brand and this new network of dealerships is going to result in lots more sales.

Lots of Genesis vehicles up here in Edmond. We have one and love it. Bought it at Genesis of Plano.

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When you pull out of the parking lot, will there be a sign that says exodus?

I take my Genesis in next week for my first experience with their service.

It's actually a warranty issue where some of the black chrome has oxidized -- a known problem I believe they have subsequently fixed -- and I called, and they asked me to text some photos so they could order the parts, when I did they scheduled me and I'll have a loaner car for a day while they complete the work.

Thus far, a fantastic experience. I'll report back afterward but thus far I'm impressed. They seem to be very eager to please.

They also will actually come pick up your car and drop off the loaner, but I'm going to go the traditional route so I can see how well it all works.

I take my Genesis in next week for my first experience with their service.

It's actually a warranty issue where some of the black chrome has oxidized -- a known problem I believe they have subsequently fixed -- and I called, and they asked me to text some photos so they could order the parts, when I did they scheduled me and I'll have a loaner car for a day while they complete the work.

Thus far, a fantastic experience. I'll report back afterward but thus far I'm impressed. They seem to be very eager to please.

They also will actually come pick up your car and drop off the loaner, but I'm going to go the traditional route so I can see how well it all works.

Great news. I have a friend who almost doesn't want the car after having to go to Hyundai dealers for service and it being a nightmare. Norman Genesis is almost complete though.

Great to hear! I need to replace my car in the next couple years and have the GV70 on my short list.