View Full Version : Opinion Column Tulsa wanting to secede from Oklahoma



progressiveboy
03-17-2022, 11:53 AM
Saw this in the Tulsa World. What are your thoughts? Keep in mind, this was in the opinions/letter editorial section.




https://tulsaworld.com/opinion/letters/letter-tulsa-should-secede-from-the-rest-of-oklahoma/article_c4891880-a3dc-11ec-be4c-97baa8567d59.html#tracking-source=most-popular-homepage

jerrywall
03-17-2022, 12:41 PM
I've seen this brought up time and again since at least the 80's. It's a dumb of an idea now as it was then. There've been other variations, like that corner of the state becoming part of Kansas, etc.

Mississippi Blues
03-17-2022, 12:51 PM
Only if Oklahoma City can secede too.

chssooner
03-17-2022, 01:53 PM
OKc is more liberal and different than 23rd and Lincoln than Tulsa is. That is just more elitism from Tulsa people.

shavethewhales
03-17-2022, 02:04 PM
It's not much of a letter, and it's mostly a complaint about a bill targeting homeless camp sanitation concerns. Not sure what they are talking about with regards to Texas. It does make sense for us to follow Texas' lead on many things. I know in construction we try to make sure our specs and standards are similar to Texas so the contractors that do a bunch of work down there have an easier time coming up here where we have less competition in the contractor marketplace (sometimes not at all).

Speaking broadly, there wouldn't be much advantage for the eastern half of the state to split off. We have the same political forces, and the funding for various things would end up the same or worse. Probably worse considering the rise in administrative costs and bureaucracy. I guess the only advantage would be to set our own priorities regarding legislation and funding, but again, what would really change?

gopokes88
03-17-2022, 04:02 PM
A massive waste of time

PhiAlpha
03-21-2022, 01:33 AM
LOL. Another dumb person with a dumb take and a massive disassociation with reality, getting published in the Tulsa World.

Scott5114
03-22-2022, 01:53 PM
I feel like the real solution is for Oklahoma City, Tulsa, and Norman to figure out a way to get on the same page politically. Then the cities would have the political power to force the state government to better serve their needs. As it is now, all the rural legislators have to do is use a divide-and-conquer strategy and they can run the show despite having a minority of the population. When the cities actually work together on a common purpose is when you see actual useful things happen in government that go against the typical culture-wars fare the Legislature normally produces. SQ 788 is one particularly high-profile example of that.

The only way seceding from Oklahoma makes any amount of sense for Tulsa is if it is just Tulsa County seceding. If they bring any amount of rural territory with them at all, they're right back where they started. Joining Kansas would probably be even worse. About the only thing they'd get out of that is a top-notch transportation department. Other than that, Kansas has many of the same problems Oklahoma does.

ComeOnBenjals!
03-23-2022, 08:46 AM
Nothing of note, just one person's dissenting opinion. Clearly worked in getting clicks... look at the discussion here :P