Would be nice to get a World Market here and possibly Half Price Books since the Edmond location closed.

HomeGoods is a great tenant and Popshelf stores are nice and bright.

'Power center' is another term for 'big box center'. Not sure what else you would expect at this location.

I think with the demographics of that area, a tenant mix along the lines of Spring creek in Edmond would not have been out of the question.

Plans are taking shape for several new businesses at NW 178th and Portland.


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On the northeast corner, a large shopping center is planning to include HomeGoods, Ross Dress for Less, Popshelf and Chick-fil-A. More stores and restaurants will be included in the development.

On the southeast corner, 7-Eleven has bought the hard corner and Braum's has acquired the property to the east.

And on the northwest corner, a new strip center behind Sonic will soon be home to Swing Zone, a large bar and restaurant that will feature a long row of golf simulators.

The area continues to boom with scores of new housing additions in the Deer Creek school district.

Nearby at NW 164th & May, Homeland is well under construction and Broadway 10, Sidecar, and Hatch have announced new locations. Much more retail is planned in the center dubbed Rose Creek Plaza.

At NW 178th & May, Jack Be Grocery is now open for business, 7-Eleven is very close, and The Winston is under construction. Starbucks and Taco Bell have recently opened with more planned in the area.

Near the southeast corner of NW 164th and Portland, Buffalo Wild Wings is planning its first new-concept location in the state.



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Can't say I'm thrilled about this. I know I probably hold an unpopular opinion and my opinion won't change anything. It's just me venting and complaining.

People move outside the city to get a little breathing room or to get away from the city or get away from it all etc. but then the city follows them. Then they move further out and the process repeats. It just keeps expanding with little thought given to planning so we have a box surrounded by a sea of parking that's 100 yards from another box surrounded by a sea of parking and so on.

Meanwhile, as the city moves outward the formerly new areas become old areas and the city rolls right past leaving dead areas.

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They submitted building permit applications for the center part of this development.

Shows tenants as (north to south) Dollar Tree, HomeGoods, Ross, Five Below, and JoAnn's.

The plans call the center Westpoint but the sign says The Grove.


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If you missed the news today, it would appear that an oil pipeline was struck during the prepping process of the land on the northeast side of NW178th and Portland.

It is still early in the assessment process of how long and the impact of the cleanup would be, but I imagine this will delay further construction for a while at this location.

https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-city-oil-pipeline-hit-by-contractor-cleanup/45308429

https://www.news9.com/story/6511ad16622943070a534df3/oil-geyser-in-nw-oklahoma-city-leaves-questions-about-environmental-impact

https://kfor.com/news/local/oil-spews-into-the-air-in-okc-after-line-hit-during-construction/

Weent to a wedding at venue off of 178th and N Portland this evening. Around 164th off to the west is a huge apartment development. Living in Windsor Oaks I didn't realize it's a quick 15 min jaunt up Hefner to 178th.

Weent to a wedding at venue off of 178th and N Portland this evening. Around 164th off to the west is a huge apartment development. Living in Windsor Oaks I didn't realize it's a quick 15 min jaunt up Hefner to 178th.

It really depends on the time of day. Monday-Friday rush hour anything north of Memorial, especially going north bound during the afternoon drive home can really get backed up because of the stoplights every mile after 150th street and the amount people that now live in this area of NWOKC.

Panda Express has filed a building permit to join the Chick-Fil-A as a restaurant out parcel in the Portland Power Center.

https://access.okc.gov/aca/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Permits&TabName=Permits&capID1=24BRE&capID2=00000&capID3=00592&agencyCode=OKC&IsToShowInspection=

In this same area, the Buffalo Wild Wings recently opened, the Winston is very close to opening, and across the street on 178th there is the proposed drive thru coffee shop, HTeaO, and Salad and Go.

looks like there’s a new strip center or something directly across the street from winston? different than the parcels that were reportedly HteaO, salad and go and 7brew etc

There won't be additional curb cuts, city/odot will not allow it. Portland is supposed to be semi controlled.

It's good they didn't give a new one to this, but they just gave one to The Grove a few years ago. I am sure that will become a lighted intersection soon.

It's good they didn't give a new one to this, but they just gave one to The Grove a few years ago. I am sure that will become a lighted intersection soon.

The entrance from Portland into The Grove on 184th use to have a dedicated right turn lane from Portland, for some reason, that went away, so now you have cars coming to almost a complete stop to turn right/east into the subdivision, while cars behind are going 55+ mph. The sooner ODOT can expand Portland to controlled access north of 150th to 192nd or 206th, this area becomes much safer as this would be a controlled access road to the side.

An update on this development for the north edge of NWOKC.

More info from CRBE:
https://www.cbre.com/properties/properties-for-lease/commercial-space/details/US-SMPL-129935/portland-power-center-nec-178th-portland-oklahoma-city-ok-73012

Food:
Chick-Fil-A
Panda Express
McDonalds (proposed)
Starbucks (another from the one a mile east at 178th and May)

Shopping:
Ross
Five Below
HomeGoods
Rack Room Shoes

They have slightly scaled back the development for now with smaller retail and a proposed Phase 2 on the north edge. I wouldn't be surprised to see a stoplight on Portland at the entrance to the shopping center/Grove and the Mercy Clinic across the street.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see a stoplight on Portland at the entrance to the shopping center/Grove and the Mercy Clinic across the street.



maybe a future access road but i don't think they will put a stop light on portland .. the over pass at 164th is coming in 2028 and the over pass at 178th won't be very far behind ...

the long term goal is to have 74 be limited access all the way to waterloo ..

The name of the center has changed from the generic name of Portland Power Center to the "Grove Marketplace"

https://www.cbre.com/properties/properties-for-lease/retail/details/US-SMPL-129935/grove-marketplace-nec-178th-portland-oklahoma-city-ok-73012

Chick-Fil-A has a fence up, and has started the initial work for the store off of Portland.

Pete can probably find the site plan, but it will be interesting to see how the lot is configured to ensure traffic in the drive-thru doesn't back up and out on northbound Portland/HWY 74.

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I have no idea if the graphics on that site are usually up to date. Are the 7/11, Starbucks, and Braums still supposed to go here..? 7/11 and Starbucks are just a mile down the road at 178th/May. And there are Braums locations at 150th/May and 164th/Penn... lol.

I have no idea if the graphics on that site are usually up to date. Are the 7/11, Starbucks, and Braums still supposed to go here..? 7/11 and Starbucks are just a mile down the road at 178th/May. And there are Braums locations at 150th/May and 164th/Penn... lol.

Nice that Chick-Fil-A has what appears to be two of the outer lots to help with traffic flow.

As for Starbucks at this location, apparently it will be a smaller footprint, and drive-thru location only. The one at 178th and May is "out-performing" which is why I think there is desire to place another one here, also to grab morning commuters driving down 74 into OKC. 7Brew also just opened across the street from Starbucks on May.

As for 7-11, I think it is pretty common for them to take up any open corner, if it has not already been claimed by OnCue or Caseys. Even if there is a store near by, as both stores will catch different traffic patterns of customers. There are also plans for an OnCue to go a mile north at 192nd and Portland too.

As for Braums, given the population density of The Grove and Valencia subdivisions, you have probably around 6000-8000 people in those two subdivisions alone that won't have to drive 4 or 5 miles round trip to a Braum's. I imagine the store will look more like the one at 150th and May, which is a much smaller footprint than the store at 164th and Penn that has a large indoor dining area.

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Same strip mall set up in every other suburb. This is getting bad, so boring...smh.

Same strip mall set up in every other suburb. This is getting bad, so boring...smh.

It's in a cookie cutter suburb area. It fits, and fills needs.

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Driving by there today, chick fil a is fully framed and are now wrapping the exterior with waterproofing. Also the McDonald's is almost done being framed up. Panda Express does not appear to have started yet

Updated tenant/site plan that is a little better defined of where things are going, including the addition of an Ulta on the north side of Home Goods.

Also it appears the smaller parcels include a nail salon, dentist, and skin aesthetics.

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Pete, thanks for the drone shots.

ChickFilA is obviously open, it looks like McDonald's MAY be open or is really close, with the Panda Express just behind the other two in opening.

On the south end of the center facing 178th, in the middle of the photo, is that the ground work for Starbucks and what looks like an oil change place?

On the south end of the center facing 178th, in the middle of the photo, is that the ground work for Starbucks and what looks like an oil change place?

Yes, to Starbucks.

The other building will have an Einstein's Bagels on the west end with a drive-thru; there is another small spot on the east side with a drive-thru -- perhaps Swig.

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Finally an Einstein bagel up on the NW side!

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On the southeast corner of this intersection, they have recently re-plotted the parcels.

7-11 and Braum's look like they are still going forward but looks likes a couple more drive-thru places, an auto service center of some type, and then another building back behind.

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If those are drive-in bays to the east of Braum's, wouldn't be surprised if that is a Hibdon's or Discount Tire location. South of 7-11, my guess is a Scooter's with 7Brew and Starbucks already near by.

If those are drive-in bays to the east of Braum's, wouldn't be surprised if that is a Hibdon's or Discount Tire location. South of 7-11, my guess is a Scooter's with 7Brew and Starbucks already near by.

I’d love a Dutch Bros.

If those are drive-in bays to the east of Braum's, wouldn't be surprised if that is a Hibdon's or Discount Tire location. South of 7-11, my guess is a Scooter's with 7Brew and Starbucks already near by.

And to the east of the possible tire store, it looks like it could be a oil change place.