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What's up with the re-routing of the sidewalk by the entrance? They afraid it would be too easy for cars to see wallkers if they left it 10 feet back? It cost them more to make it worse.

What's up with the re-routing of the sidewalk by the entrance? They afraid it would be too easy for cars to see wallkers if they left it 10 feet back? It cost them more to make it worse.

I do like that they moved the sidewalk back from the road instead of being on the curb.

But that weird sidewalk stuff by the entrance is strange. It looks like there isnt a slope issue from my very unscientific Google Streetview search. I, too, would be interested to know why they did it that way.

I do like that they moved the sidewalk back from the road instead of being on the curb.

But that weird sidewalk stuff by the entrance is strange. It looks like there isnt a slope issue from my very unscientific Google Streetview search. I, too, would be interested to know why they did it that way.

Not enough clearance between the curb, power pole, and traffic light pole? But it seems like they could've made it work by jogging it the other way (towards the store) 5 feet or so, then a straight shot on the other side of the poles to the curb. Maybe there's some kind of regulation/statute/store policy that mandates sidewalks be as close to the street as possible at an entrance?

I was wondering about that. But it is also strange that the right sidewalk angles towards the entrance whereas the left is squared off instead of angling away from the entrance. The two approaches are jarringly dissimilar.

Maybe when everything is finished it will make sense?

I hope the other side of the sidewalk will make sense instead of just ending in the lawn.

It's weird to realize that the promise of an OKC metro QT is really not interesting me as much as it used to now that OnCue has become so dominant in the area.

I think they moved the crosswalk closer to the street so that people turning in from the service road could see pedestrians crossing the driveway more easily.

One benefit of putting those hard corners on the sidewalk is that the skaters and scooters have to slow down and pay attention to their surroundings as they approach all those cars and trucks. A kid on a scooter blasting along with their ear buds in will blast right across that driveway, given half a chance.

I wonder if they are putting a sign on the corner or some other barrier. Otherwise, what stops people from just walking on the grass?

OnCue > QT

OnCue > QT

I wouldn't agree that it's in all ways superior, especially the logo: the OnCue logo is awful.

I know Tulsans like their QT but everytime I've been in one they feel dirty and outdated. Maybe I've only been in older ones though

I wouldn't agree that it's in all ways superior, especially the logo: the OnCue logo is awful.

That's why I pick a gas station or travel stop :p jkjk! Just giving you a hard time.

I know Tulsans like their QT but everytime I've been in one they feel dirty and outdated. Maybe I've only been in older ones though

QuikTrip has been one of the nicest gas station chains I've visited with a consistently high employee quality. The ones I've been to have mostly been recently remodeled with the bigger drink selection or the grill attached, and they've been impressive. There was one in Texas that I visited that wasn't a positive experience and it was so jarring that I have remembered it for years.


That's why I pick a gas station or travel stop :p jkjk! Just giving you a hard time.

My existence isn't always miserable, but when it comes to pickiness about design, I'm living one of the worst lives. :)

I don't think I'm the typical gas station customer considering what I see here and in person but...I can count how many times I've gone inside a gas station for anything but the bathroom in the last ten years on two hands. All I care about is the quality of non-ethanol gasoline, which OnCue has the best of besides specialty stations in the Metro.

I was surprised to see a QT in Atlanta as I has thought of them as a small OK-TX chain so I went and looked. They have over 1000 locations in 17 states.

Yeah they were all over Wichita (and the rest of Kansas) when I was growing up there in the seventies and early-mid eighties. Up there it was basically QT vs KwikShop, which was a pretty sizeable chain started and owned by Wichita-based Dillons grocery stores.

Y'all seem to care deeply about the frills at the place we put gas in cars.

I just want a place with cheap gas where I won't get robbed. The bar is not high with me.

Y'all seem to care deeply about the frills at the place we put gas in cars.

I just want a place with cheap gas where I won't get robbed. The bar is not high with me.

I just want good coffee which On Cue offers and much cheaper than starbucks. The ice tea game is pretty strong as well (at both On Cue and QT)

Y'all seem to care deeply about the frills at the place we put gas in cars.

I just want a place with cheap gas where I won't get robbed. The bar is not high with me.

QT really pushed the modern convenience store design and layout concept, including massively improving their safety. Not as novel today with all the clones like OnCue and KwikStop, but the pushed the industry away from scuzzy Texico with one employee working at a time.

QT is telling me 'February' for opening the Moore location.

Also, I believe the reason for the funny layout of the sidewalk along the frontage road is to comply with ADA requirements. You can't have a crossing on much of a slope, and they probably moved it to the east due to flatter ground.

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What sticks out to me in the last drone shot, is that the main entrance on either side is still a single door. This creates a bottleneck when you don't know who is coming and going. Anyone who has been at a Gen 3 QT store at peak morning drive or evening rush time knows what I am talking about.

Other than the truck pumps in the back, is there anything that sets this a part as a "Travel Stop" compared to the regular corner store QT's?

What sticks out to me in the last drone shot, is that the main entrance on either side is still a single door. This creates a bottleneck when you don't know who is coming and going. Anyone who has been at a Gen 3 QT store at peak morning drive or evening rush time knows what I am talking about.

Other than the truck pumps in the back, is there anything that sets this a part as a "Travel Stop" compared to the regular corner store QT's?

There are four entrance doors, the two you see in the photo, which are on each side of the main counter, and then one more at the end on each side.

I've been in a Gen 3 travel stop and I didn't notice it was much larger on the inside. They are big stores to start with.

What sticks out to me in the last drone shot, is that the main entrance on either side is still a single door. This creates a bottleneck when you don't know who is coming and going. Anyone who has been at a Gen 3 QT store at peak morning drive or evening rush time knows what I am talking about.

Other than the truck pumps in the back, is there anything that sets this a part as a "Travel Stop" compared to the regular corner store QT's?

I think they tend to be slightly bigger and slightly bigger random car stuff sections.

This is the eExpress across from the QuikTrip in Moore. Looks like QT is going to open first.

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^ Turning left out of there is going to be a mess.

Interesting they didn't lay out the eExpress to face the highway like QT did. Sits way back and when all the semis are at the pumps....won't be able to see store. Wonder if the bill board stays also.

^ Turning left out of there is going to be a mess.

Surely there will be an exit onto the service road to facilitate right turns?? Right?? :please:

Then again, even if they do, there will always be "that guy" who will try to turn left and jam up the flow. What

Surely there will be an exit onto the service road to facilitate right turns?? Right?? :please:

Then again, even if they do, there will always be "that guy" who will try to turn left and jam up the flow. What

It used to be easy to access I35 South from this intersection. Now they have moved the on ramp like a mile south to get on. It is all service road so not bad but still a distance before merging on.

It used to be easy to access I35 South from this intersection. Now they have moved the on ramp like a mile south to get on. It is all service road so not bad but still a distance before merging on.

it looks like the quick trip has exits onto north moore avenue. one could turn right on that and then make a left onto shields to quickly access southbound i-35. i hope no semi's try that route, though, as it would be fairly tricky to cross traffic there with a trailer.

It's interesting that QT has been paved with a mixture of asphalt and concrete.

Maybe the swaths of asphalt allow easier future access to the underground tanks?

This is the eExpress across from the QuikTrip in Moore. Looks like QT is going to open first.



that is interesting .. because eExpress had quite a head start ..

It's interesting that QT has been paved with a mixture of asphalt and concrete.

Maybe the swaths of asphalt allow easier future access to the underground tanks?

I figure it has to do with cost. Asphalt is cheaper than concrete. They used concrete where it is likely to come into contact with petroleum products since they can degrade asphalt (around the pumps and the parking immediately next to the building). [I think that's why auto-parts stores pretty much always have concrete parking lots - they assume people coming there would have issues with their cars and drip fluids]

I figure it has to do with cost. Asphalt is cheaper than concrete. They used concrete where it is likely to come into contact with petroleum products since they can degrade asphalt (around the pumps and the parking immediately next to the building). [I think that's why auto-parts stores pretty much always have concrete parking lots - they assume people coming there would have issues with their cars and drip fluids]

Sure, but when they mix the two together it looks terrible. At least make the whole front half concrete. It really makes Oncue look superior, who has a store down the road with the whole parking lot concrete. I think most new gas stations being built use all concrete its a necessary expense when dealing with petroleum products like you said.

it looks like the quick trip has exits onto north moore avenue. one could turn right on that and then make a left onto shields to quickly access southbound i-35. i hope no semi's try that route, though, as it would be fairly tricky to cross traffic there with a trailer.

I think they are currently adding a traffic signal there. Might be in preparation for the Quiktrip opening which would for sure bring more traffic.


It's interesting that QT has been paved with a mixture of asphalt and concrete.

Maybe the swaths of asphalt allow easier future access to the underground tanks?

They did the same at the Henryetta location but none of the ones in Tulsa are mixed. They are usually all concrete.

QT used Pete's picture on their twitter meme. Nice

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They are planning to open in Moore on Feb 15th.

Looks like the used concrete where the majority of the parking will occur and the cheaper asphalt elsewhere.

Looks like the used concrete where the majority of the parking will occur and the cheaper asphalt elsewhere.

The part around the pumps may be more due to flammability/liability mitigation, concrete is not going to do much if a small fire starts over it, but if a small fire gets started on top of asphalt it could get ignited. Though it also makes sense that the heavier used parking spots near the store get a more durable material than the ones that are either overflow or staff.

They are still planning on opening this Thursday 2/15.

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I wonder if OKC talk is gonna Post a news article regarding this.

I wonder if OKC talk is gonna Post a news article regarding this.

Two days before the Oklahoman does, I'm guessing.

We already reported on them opening today on 1/30 and again a few days ago.

We already reported on them opening today on 1/30 and again a few days ago.

I think they were speculating about a post on the "News" section in the front page. Might be perception that a post listed there is news and a post in the forums is more, like, commentary than a "report".

So anybody been down there to check it out yet?

So anybody been down there to check it out yet?

i can't even imagine...

I'm guessing there is a line a mile long...only in oklahoma lol

I drove past this afternoon and it was hoppin

The long night HAS ENDED!!!

Just drove past and it wasn’t super busy…granted this was at 10:30 p.m.

So anybody been down there to check it out yet?

First time QT experience. I was very impressed. I did notice that all gasoline grades are up to 10% ethanol. I did not see any 100% pure gasoline. The drink containers start at $1.19 with styrofoam cups costing more than the clear, recyclable plastic cups. Being a travel center, I was surprised to see tools and automotive accessories for sale. Restrooms are separated at complete opposite ends of the store.

I went for my first trip to the Moore store hoping that it would replace the other stations I go by taking my kids to school. Well what a disappointment that was. It was a full 20 cents more per gallon for E-10 than the small local Alon shop on Broadway or the 7-11 and Casey's on Eastern. We'll see what happens once the Express opens, but there's no way i'm going to just hand over that much more per gallon when I dont even go inside the thing. Frankly, they're going to have to do better than that.

They do have Regular and E-10 at the pumps. One is Red and one is Black.

I went for my first trip to the Moore store hoping that it would replace the other stations I go by taking my kids to school. Well what a disappointment that was. It was a full 20 cents more per gallon for E-10 than the small local Alon shop on Broadway or the 7-11 and Casey's on Eastern. We'll see what happens once the Express opens, but there's no way i'm going to just hand over that much more per gallon when I dont even go inside the thing. Frankly, they're going to have to do better than that.

They do have Regular and E-10 at the pumps. One is Red and one is Black.

I chuckled because those are 3 places I wouldn't ever trust to get gas for my vehicles. Maybe I'm in the minority, but when it comes to getting gas I actually don't mind paying more for better fuel and a better overall experience while visiting the store.

I left wholly unimpressed when I went last week. The beverage areas were dirty. Liquid all over the floor. The restroom was worse. The floor around the urinal areas were completely wet. I'm not a stranger to QuikTrip, but this experience is why I've avoided them as of late whenever I'm in Tulsa or DFW. Cleanliness, or the lack thereof, seems to be an issue, especially when compared to other options.

I chuckled because those are 3 places I wouldn't ever trust to get gas for my vehicles. Maybe I'm in the minority, but when it comes to getting gas I actually don't mind paying more for better fuel and a better overall experience while visiting the store.
This. And Casey’s usually gets to enjoy your credit card well after you’ve left.

This. And Casey’s usually gets to enjoy your credit card well after you’ve left.

Definitely always use Apple Pay at Casey’s.

Visited a few times since it opened. The layout is weird, I don't like how they have the checkout in the middle of the whole station, makes it hard to tell who is in line or just browsing. Drink options are ok. Was really not impressed with the pizza, Casey's pizza is better. Really isn't better than Love's truck stops off the highway. The hype will die down, and it will just another gas station.

I left wholly unimpressed when I went last week. The beverage areas were dirty. Liquid all over the floor. The restroom was worse. The floor around the urinal areas were completely wet. I'm not a stranger to QuikTrip, but this experience is why I've avoided them as of late whenever I'm in Tulsa or DFW. Cleanliness, or the lack thereof, seems to be an issue, especially when compared to other options.

YES! We use to exclusively use QT's when we traveled through QT Markets (DFW, Wichita, Tulsa, KC, Joplin, Des Moines, etc) and the cleanliness has gone down considerably in recent years. Not sure what changed with their model, but they use to be extremely clean and organized. Now when we travel we almost exclusively go to Love's, while their stores vary in offerings and age, their restrooms, which tend to be the #1 reason for stopping, have been very clean.

Locally, OnCue has done an amazing job in maintaining their restrooms and overall store cleanliness. As mentioned in previous post the current QT Gen 3 stores, like the one in Moore, have a very inefficient layout and odd placement of doors, point of sale, and overall guest flow, which seems to go against the core of what they use to pride themselves on with efficiency and cleanliness.

I haven't been, so pardon my ignorance, but is the QT not great or are we so spoiled with Oncue at this point?

So, the QT that opened just about a year ago near our home here in SE Georgia was similar when it first opened. I was disappointed in the way it was being run and maintained. But, they have seemed to "get their legs" now and it's being run much better now. I think when it's a location that isn't near several others to pull experienced employees from it takes them some time to get all trained up. That's at least my perception of it. Hopefully the Moore location will firm up and once they start adding more to the metro you would think it would help with the overall operation.