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Pete
09-14-2021, 06:04 AM
Brunch Day Club with cabana suites planned for near downtown (https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=743-Airbnb-with-pool-and-restaurant-planned-for-SoSA)

A new development is planned near NW 6th and Shartel that will be a Brunch Day Club with cabanas and cabana suites that will become Airbnb untis during the offseason.

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The project will be called Decoy and its u-shaped layout is designed to provide vistas of the nearby skyline.

Vincent Le and Kayla Baker of Northline Development are heading the project and Ty Hamilton will be the operating partner.

The restaurant and bar will be called Egg N Coffee. It will be operated by Chick N Beer's Truong Le.

After plans are approved, the group hopes to break ground around the first of the year.

Design is by Gardner Architects.


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Mballard85
09-14-2021, 07:14 AM
Wow that is a really cool project, I hope it plays out.

Bowser214
09-14-2021, 07:31 AM
What's going on in Rogers AK pop 66K? That they can land a massive residential development called the Pinnacle Heights? The same Architects of the Decoy Gardner Architects.
https://www.google.com/search?q=pinnacle+heights+rogers+ar&sxsrf=AOaemvK1spTLXfMF6ESxBkoPRNa1Lro0Zg:163162557 5090&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=9KitV5voH1ncTM%252C6EpFeab677XlfM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSEV5gCoXczSEVSuxbZK3wf3LKsFQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFuLz2xv7yAhXIqZ4KHXqRC0AQ9QF6BAgvEAE#i mgrc=9KitV5voH1ncTM

kzizok
09-14-2021, 07:37 AM
I imagine Bentonville is what is going on.

runOKC
09-14-2021, 07:41 AM
I imagine Bentonville is what is going on.
Yep. It’s a pretty area with a low cost of living. And Walmart provides some serious economic firepower in the entire NW part of the state.

5alive
09-14-2021, 07:44 AM
Not a criticism, I really like this infill, but an honest question. This design and layout reminds me of a motel. What is the difference between this type of Airbnb and a small motel?

Brett
09-14-2021, 07:45 AM
The photo has NW 6th St mislabeled as NW 4th St.

Jeepnokc
09-14-2021, 07:51 AM
Not a criticism, I really like this infill, but an honest question. This design and layout reminds me of a motel. What is the difference between this type of Airbnb and a small motel?

I had wondered the same thing after seeing these are basically motel rooms and not actual apartments/condos with kitchens. Is there an advantage to do it this way as far as regulatory or code requirements? For example, motel rooms have sprinklers in each room. If not motel but airbnb, do you have to sprinkler it?

It is a cool project though

Bowser214
09-14-2021, 07:55 AM
Yep. It’s a pretty area with a low cost of living. And Walmart provides some serious economic firepower in the entire NW part of the state.

Ohhh ok makes sense. Thanks!

Pete
09-14-2021, 07:57 AM
The photo has NW 6th St mislabeled as NW 4th St.

Thanks, I fixed it.

Canoe
09-14-2021, 08:00 AM
Wow that is a really cool project, I hope it plays out.

So do you gonhere eat a hamburger then swim free or what? How does the swimming pool relate to the restaurant?

GoGators
09-14-2021, 08:15 AM
What's going on in Rogers AK pop 66K? That they can land a massive residential development called the Pinnacle Heights? The same Architects of the Decoy Gardner Architects.
https://www.google.com/search?q=pinnacle+heights+rogers+ar&sxsrf=AOaemvK1spTLXfMF6ESxBkoPRNa1Lro0Zg:163162557 5090&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=9KitV5voH1ncTM%252C6EpFeab677XlfM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSEV5gCoXczSEVSuxbZK3wf3LKsFQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFuLz2xv7yAhXIqZ4KHXqRC0AQ9QF6BAgvEAE#i mgrc=9KitV5voH1ncTM

The JB Hunt family is the money behind most of that development around the Walmart Arkansas Music Pavilion in Rogers. They have built some Mid Rise spec office towers as well. Its a more mature Chisolm Creek type development.

OkieBerto
09-14-2021, 11:02 AM
I had wondered the same thing after seeing these are basically motel rooms and not actual apartments/condos with kitchens. Is there an advantage to do it this way as far as regulatory or code requirements? For example, motel rooms have sprinklers in each room. If not motel but airbnb, do you have to sprinkler it?

It is a cool project though

A developer I know recently finished a project that only had 4 rooms and the project was primarily built for Airbnb/Corporate housing. It is also being used as office space for a small company. This developer was forced to put sprinklers in this development. I could be wrong, but this project will likely still need sprinklers. In my travels, I have found that a lot of Hotels and Motels are putting some of their rooms on Airbnb. I recently went to New Orleans where the Airbnb accounts are allowed to tell locals they can't book their space. Hotels and Motels, from what I am assuming, can't refuse to rent a room to anyone even locals. This is all guesswork.

soonerguru
09-14-2021, 11:09 AM
What's going on in Rogers AK pop 66K? That they can land a massive residential development called the Pinnacle Heights? The same Architects of the Decoy Gardner Architects.
https://www.google.com/search?q=pinnacle+heights+rogers+ar&sxsrf=AOaemvK1spTLXfMF6ESxBkoPRNa1Lro0Zg:163162557 5090&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=9KitV5voH1ncTM%252C6EpFeab677XlfM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSEV5gCoXczSEVSuxbZK3wf3LKsFQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFuLz2xv7yAhXIqZ4KHXqRC0AQ9QF6BAgvEAE#i mgrc=9KitV5voH1ncTM

Rogers, Fayetteville, Bentonville are all part of a connected metropolitan area.

Jersey Boss
09-14-2021, 11:15 AM
Is the Airbnb designation a way to circumvent ADA requirements?

OkieBerto
09-14-2021, 01:52 PM
Is the Airbnb designation a way to circumvent ADA requirements?

It looks like on the plans the parking is ADA compliant, which probably means they will have units that follow the same rule. The plans also show an ADA ramp.

Plutonic Panda
09-14-2021, 01:58 PM
I vaguely recall seeing an article that air bnb was going to enter the hotel business. It’s pretty ironic if that is the case given their whole thing is to be an alternative to hotels. It looks like a full circle kind of thing to me.

OkieBerto
09-14-2021, 02:15 PM
I vaguely recall seeing an article that air bnb was going to enter the hotel business. It’s pretty ironic if that is the case given their whole thing is to be an alternative to hotels. It looks like a full circle kind of thing to me.

I have also noticed this and while looking for locations in New Orleans last week I happened upon several listings under the Sonder Stays group. These locations are in Apartment high rises, hotels, and updated historic buildings. https://www.sonder.com/. I haven't really done much research on how they are able to do this, but most of their locations had better pricing than those that were run by an individual.

onthestrip
09-14-2021, 02:43 PM
A developer I know recently finished a project that only had 4 rooms and the project was primarily built for Airbnb/Corporate housing. It is also being used as office space for a small company. This developer was forced to put sprinklers in this development. I could be wrong, but this project will likely still need sprinklers. In my travels, I have found that a lot of Hotels and Motels are putting some of their rooms on Airbnb. I recently went to New Orleans where the Airbnb accounts are allowed to tell locals they can't book their space. Hotels and Motels, from what I am assuming, can't refuse to rent a room to anyone even locals. This is all guesswork.

Pretty sure anything with more than two units in same structure will need sprinklering. Anything more than a duplex requires this. I doubt that changes with it being a hotel/airbnb hotel


Is the Airbnb designation a way to circumvent ADA requirements?

Basically nothing gets away from ADA requirements.

Cool looking project and small Airbnb properties like this will probably be well received by travelers of all types and even staycationers.

shawnw
09-14-2021, 07:44 PM
cool and all but weird to put a "destination" kind of place in the middle of surface parking and bail bondsmen

kallio
09-14-2021, 09:04 PM
Rogers, Fayetteville, Bentonville are all part of a connected metropolitan area.

And don’t forget Springdale … Fayetteville is close enough too! Hardcore locals include Tontitown and Bella Vista!

Jeepnokc
09-15-2021, 06:45 AM
cool and all but weird to put a "destination" kind of place in the middle of surface parking and bail bondsmen

But Ken Boyer is everywhere :D

Celebrator
09-15-2021, 10:43 AM
Another new thing with an inexplicable name. I don't get it.

AlvarezK
12-06-2021, 10:50 PM
Heard anything new about this Pete?

Rover
12-07-2021, 12:45 PM
And don’t forget Springdale … Fayetteville is close enough too! Hardcore locals include Tontitown and Bella Vista!

Used to be a great Italian restaurant in Tontitown, right on the highway back to Tulsa. Wonder if it is still there. Had the best yeast rolls.

Pete
12-07-2021, 12:48 PM
Heard anything new about this Pete?

They have submitted their building permit application and working through the process with the city.

Usually takes several months of back-and-forth.

AlvarezK
01-27-2022, 01:42 PM
Any updates on this development Pete?

Pete
01-27-2022, 01:49 PM
Any updates on this development Pete?

They are still working through the process of having their building permit approved.

AlvarezK
09-24-2022, 02:07 AM
Any news about this development Pete? Its been a while since hearing anything.

Pete
09-24-2022, 05:21 AM
Any news about this development Pete? Its been a while since hearing anything.

It's on hold while the same developers focus on Bungalow 23.