I want more of these types of homes, just I would like something a little more affordable, 1.6M is not easy for the young family to acquire.

Stop the madness! The gaps between the buildings look dumb to me, what are they gonna do with those, why don't they just build them as rowhouses? The houses in this area look pretty weird, I meant horrible in a polite way. How could they approve these projects? OKC does need a legit chief architect.

Would you want to share a wall with a neighbor if you're spending $1.60mm?

What is the address? Took a quick look and didn’t see listing. Thanks.


All three of these are listed now for about 1.6MM.

Roughly $460 psqft.

Would you want to share a wall with a neighbor if you're spending $1.60mm?

Yes, if I can claim half of the wasteful strip on each side and add 500 sqft to my total sqft, what are they used for btw, for quick access from 6th to 7th? LOL. There's no windows on those walls. First of all, 1.6M is nuts, Villa Teresa is roughly 1.2M/unit and they're pretty much rowhouses, and they've sold more than haft of their available units.

What is the address? Took a quick look and didn’t see listing. Thanks.

38 NE 7th Street, Oklahoma City, OK 73104

Yes, if I can claim half of the wasteful strip on each side and add 500 sqft to my total sqft, what are they used for btw, for quick access from 6th to 7th? LOL. There's no windows on those walls. First of all, 1.6M is nuts, Villa Teresa is roughly 1.2M/unit and they're pretty much rowhouses, and they've sold more than haft of their available units.

What Villa Teresa has sold is their condos or 'flats', which were much cheaper than the rest.

Of the 11 rowhouses, only 2 of them have sold. And they have been on the market for well over a year.

According to the listing, all 3 of these will have their own small pool in the middle where that courtyard thing is. So I guess there is some justification of the gap - equipment to dig + exterior access.

Would you want to share a wall with a neighbor if you're spending $1.60mm?

and you can walk to the Parlor and get trashed if you wanted too

What Villa Teresa has sold is their condos or 'flats', which were much cheaper than the rest.

Of the 11 rowhouses, only 2 of them have sold. And they have been on the market for well over a year.

I know a couple of the buyers in the VT flats and the driving force for their decision of buying the flat was being all on one floor.

I know a couple of the buyers in the VT flats and the driving force for their decision of buying the flat was being all on one floor.

One-level living is a priority for many, especially older people. And it's often the empty-nesters that are the primary market for these expensive, urban homes.

Personally, I like ranch homes because you don't have a big staircase in the middle of the house, which is a very inefficient use of space and breaks up the living areas. Also, I'm a huge dog lover and once they get to a certain age, navigating steps can be a big problem.

Regarding why aren't they row homes... Gary (urbanlivingokc on twitter) told me that attached housing is a really tough sell in OKC in his experience, so I suspect, as dumb as all this is, that they'd have a harder time selling them with the "attached" label vs otherwise...

Regarding why aren't they row homes... Gary (urbanlivingokc on twitter) told me that attached housing is a really tough sell in OKC in his experience, so I suspect, as dumb as all this is, that they'd have a harder time selling them with the "attached" label vs otherwise...

Also at some local credit unions they charge more in interest for attached houses. I think it has to do with how they would sell the loan onto wall street.

+1 for density, +10 for being housing downtown +1000 for not having front facing garages like the homes across the street to the north.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/robert061822a.jpg

i'm going to armchair quarterback here and say that the proportions would have been better with a third story, even if it was just the front section of the structures. just look at the two units just to the north... that just looks more 'right' to me.

i'm going to armchair quarterback here and say that the proportions would have been better with a third story, even if it was just the front section of the structures. just look at the two units just to the north... that just looks more 'right' to me.

As a a practical matter I have to say I am not able to walk multiple levels of stairs anymore, and don’t think people in OKC want to pay for the privilege of doing so. I mean no disrespect

i'm going to armchair quarterback here and say that the proportions would have been better with a third story, even if it was just the front section of the structures. just look at the two units just to the north... that just looks more 'right' to me.

More “right”? From this pic or from street level? What does this mean?

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/robertsquare100822a.jpg

I'm sort of curious why someone though OKC needed a rowhouse. Yeah, there's a small space between where all you will grow there is concrete, but for all intents and purposes, its a rowhouse.

It just seems odd that it wouldn't just be a set of apartments instead. You're only a "detached" home by definition of not touching, but its not like you won't have noise creep as if you were in an apartment. And the lack of window light between will suck. The whole thing just seems weird and unneccesary.

They're only unnecessary if they sit empty and nobody buys and lives in them. Even if they end up as Airbnb locations that's still a tourism benefit to the area.

$1.66 million (https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/34-NE-7th-St-Oklahoma-City-OK-73104/2063162243_zpid/)

in the pic above, it looks like the top 2/3s is eifs instead of brick...

At least they have sense enough to place the garage port access in alleys and not in front of the house.

EIFS is gross

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/robertsquare101122a.jpg

Bit of a bait and switch from the renderings to what is actually being built...

I'm still thinking hard about what I'm gonna do with those narrow gaps between the houses. Can anyone please point me to examples of good uses for gaps like these? Thanks!

I'm still thinking hard about what I'm gonna do with those narrow gaps between the houses. Can anyone please point me to examples of good uses for gaps like these? Thanks!
Put some wind turbines to generate some electricity ;)

I'm still thinking hard about what I'm gonna do with those narrow gaps between the houses. Can anyone please point me to examples of good uses for gaps like these? Thanks!

So you dont have to share walls with your neighbor, which can be important to people, especially Oklahomans. Any realtor will tell you condos get less per square foot than a single family home in this city. I'd be pretty nervous with a several premium priced homes coming soon with the current interest rates. Going from 3 to 7+% has to eliminate a ton of potential buyers.

Could be nice for having a home entertainment system and not bothering the neighbors.

Bit of a bait and switch from the renderings to what is actually being built...

yeah, they seem to be indicating a new tower on top of blok bar

EIFS is gross

This 100%. It should be discouraged in Oklahoma.

Bit of a bait and switch from the renderings to what is actually being built...

Possibly, but it's impossible to tell from the angles of the photo and the renderings. The only place that show EIFS in the picture doesn't show in the renderings.

I'm still thinking hard about what I'm gonna do with those narrow gaps between the houses. Can anyone please point me to examples of good uses for gaps like these? Thanks!

Practice my lag putting.

Possibly, but it's impossible to tell from the angles of the photo and the renderings. The only place that show EIFS in the picture doesn't show in the renderings.

I was talking more about the front of these. Look at the window placement/proportions of the renderings compared to what is actually going in. Add in the EIFS being used and these look like they have been value engineered to death.
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not a ton of progress since october...
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They may be waiting for sales to give the buyer options on the final finishes.

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good to see some progress! i'm not seeing these on zillow right now... the mapping might be off, they could be pending, or they're just currently off the market.

I believe they were pulled off the market a few weeks back. I suspect they’ll be re-listed soon.

I wonder if they dug the pools? The rooftop views are probably some of the best in the city. It is my favorite angle of the skyline.

I went and looked last night. None of them have pools dug. It looked like they won't be.

Hats off to Pete and OKCTalk! In depth coverage available nowhere else. Much appreciated Pete!

these have been back on the market for a couple months now at almost $1.6M...

36 NE 7th St, Oklahoma City, OK 73104 | MLS #1063249 | Zillow (https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/36-NE-7th-St-Oklahoma-City-OK-73104/2063162242_zpid/?)

The entire time I was watching these get built, I couldn't come up with who their target demo is. The zillow listing with the Aston Martin pulled up to the sidewalk cracks me up

The entire time I was watching these get built, I couldn't come up with who their target demo is. The zillow listing with the Aston Martin pulled up to the sidewalk cracks me up

that's par for the course with that listing agent. sometimes they superimpose those images of the cars on all the TVs in the house lolz

that's par for the course with that listing agent. sometimes they superimpose those images of the cars on all the TVs in the house lolz

I know exactly who you are talking about without even looking at the listing. :)

Read the description. The half bath has GUCCI wallpaper...

And I echo Pete's statement. I knew who the listing agent was just from looking at the pics.

Although not on floorplans, looks like they want plenty of full size refrigerators. One picture looks like there is a full size refrigerator spot on the second floor next to a sink in the hallway? There also appears to maybe be a third floor landing not on floorplan going onto the roof and it has a spot built in for full size refrigerator.

Although not on floorplans, looks like they want plenty of full size refrigerators. One picture looks like there is a full size refrigerator spot on the second floor next to a sink in the hallway? There also appears to maybe be a third floor landing not on floorplan going onto the roof and it has a spot built in for full size refrigerator.

Yea the floorplan is basically laid out like having a guest suite attached via that long hallway on the second floor. So that little area in the hallway is supposed to be the kitchenette space for the 'guest house'. Which is super weird since the laundry room is next to it with another sink. And then just upstairs above the guest house you have another kitchenette for the rooftop party area.

And to top off the strange floorplan, you don't even have indoor access to your own garage, despite the guesthouse being above it and attached via the second floor.

Surprised there isn't some kind of elevator element. Getting full size fridges into those spaces above is going to be a nightmare.

I also don't like how the front door opens up into the dining area that you have to walk through to get to the main part of the entertaining area.

Surprised there isn't some kind of elevator element. Getting full size fridges into those spaces above is going to be a nightmare.

Beyond the fridges, the market for these types of homes is largely aging empty-nesters, and the lack of an elevator makes it much harder to age in place.

I went and checked out the unit that is finished and listed. I will say the finishes themselves are high-end, but the quality of the construction seemed suspect for a home listed at $1.4MM.

There were several head-scratchers in design that have been mentioned in this thread. The strange refrigerator spots are exactly just that. There is no elevator, but the realtor said the builder has option to add one in the courtyard if a buyer so desires. There is also a buildplan for glassing in the concrete corridor in the courtyard that would link the garage space to the kitchen area if buyer desires. One thing that really just screamed after-thought to me, two of the bedrooms have Juliet balconies with a nice sliding door for access. But then you go to the rooftop where an old-school hinged doubledoor swings out into the crosswind and basically slams into that light fixture you can see in the rooftop photos. Definitely will be needing sliding door for any kind of rooftop access in Oklahoma wind. The rooftop layout itself seems like it should have been reversed, the main hangout section is on the north end of the structure, which kind of defeats the whole skyline view. Also the decking used for the rooftop was already severely warped.

I would be surprised to see these sell anywhere near the 1.4 ask.

It's such a shame to see such prime real estate occupied by these unsightly houses. I'd much prefer to see a mixed-use development or apartment complex in that spot.