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Stone has come out in support of Jackson Lahmeyer who is running against Lankford.
The Hefners are very involved with the Oklahoma Republican party; Carol was co-chair of Trump's presidential campaign in Oklahoma.
https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/gop-hopeful-jackson-lahmeyer-endorsed-by-trump-ally-roger-stone/article_c4a15770-4968-11ec-b239-6b3b295227a4.html
HangryHippo 12-16-2021, 03:49 PM Lahmeyer is dangerously stupid.
soonerguru 12-16-2021, 04:56 PM Stone has come out in support of Jackson Lahmeyer who is running against Lankford.
The Hefners are very involved with the Oklahoma Republican party; Carol was co-chair of Trump's presidential campaign in Oklahoma.
https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/gop-hopeful-jackson-lahmeyer-endorsed-by-trump-ally-roger-stone/article_c4a15770-4968-11ec-b239-6b3b295227a4.html
I'm aware of all of that. My response was to April's comment. Hefner is running for mayor and she was having dinner with Roger Stone. Hopefully it was just a cordial meeting and she will not be employing his brand of politics in the race. That would be bad for OKC in every conceivable way beyond her expected batty campaign messaging.
soonerguru 12-16-2021, 04:58 PM I also saw yesterday where the other mayoral candidate Urbanic hosted an anti-public transit rally in front of EMBARK HQ referencing saving our tax dollars. Someone may want to inform him that we receive almost all of our transit funding from the federal government.
TheTravellers 12-16-2021, 05:09 PM I'm aware of all of that. My response was to April's comment. Hefner is running for mayor and she was having dinner with Roger Stone. Hopefully it was just a cordial meeting and she will not be employing his brand of politics in the race. That would be bad for OKC in every conceivable way beyond her expected batty campaign messaging.
Why would Hefner *not* use Stone's brand of politics, she's been part of it for years now, hasn't she?
As far as Urbanic and anti-public transit, isn't he one of the facts-don't-matter crowd (kind of like Hefner, Stone, Agent Orange, ad infinitum and nauseum)?
I'm aware of all of that. My response was to April's comment. Hefner is running for mayor and she was having dinner with Roger Stone. Hopefully it was just a cordial meeting and she will not be employing his brand of politics in the race. That would be bad for OKC in every conceivable way beyond her expected batty campaign messaging.
My point is that the meeting was likely about GOP elections and fundraising in the state, not Carol's candidacy for mayor.
soonerguru 12-16-2021, 09:19 PM My point is that the meeting was likely about GOP elections and fundraising in the state, not Carol's candidacy for mayor.
Gotcha. One can hope.
David 12-17-2021, 07:27 AM I don't believe that for an instant, it ignores the focus certain elements like Stone have made on small scale races in recent times. A right-wing mayor in a major city like OKC would be a solid get for that wing of the GOP.
HangryHippo 12-17-2021, 07:41 AM I don't believe that for an instant, it ignores the focus certain elements like Stone have made on small scale races in recent times. A right-wing mayor in a major city like OKC would be a solid get for that wing of the GOP.
100% this.
ABryant 12-17-2021, 08:05 AM Maybe. If the whole city council was taken over by Roger Stone people. They could use all of the MAPS 4 money to erect a 900 foot Richard Nixon statue.
I don't believe that for an instant, it ignores the focus certain elements like Stone have made on small scale races in recent times. A right-wing mayor in a major city like OKC would be a solid get for that wing of the GOP.
Except that the mayor's race won't be anywhere close to competitive.
They are much more focused on ousting Lankford for perceived slights against Trump.
I'm sure Stone is trying to tap into the OKC oil barons.
Richard at Remax 12-17-2021, 09:57 AM Lankford isn't going anywhere.
onthestrip 12-17-2021, 09:59 AM Except that the mayor's race won't be anywhere close to competitive.
They are much more focused on ousting Lankford for perceived slights against Trump.
I'm sure Stone is trying to tap into the OKC oil barons.
I cant imagine either the mayor or senate race being competitive at all. Carol has about a 2% chance and Lahmeyer might have about a 3% chance. Just trying to make a name for themselves while maybe pulling the incumbents a little to the right. It definitely has pulled Lankford to the right.
It is crazy though that someone would even want to meet with the human version of a batman villain that is Stone. The guy is certifiably nuts.
Richard at Remax 12-17-2021, 10:05 AM ^I mean, look who is meeting with him?
soonerguru 12-17-2021, 10:56 AM All of this is scary, starting with the local people.
riflesforwatie 12-17-2021, 11:15 AM I would think Stone is at the point that he would do anything for a paycheck. I am doubtful that his presence says much about the competitiveness or non-competitiveness of the mayoral race.
That being said, in a multi-candidate race that will have (presumably) extremely low turnout, it's important to take seriously the possibility of a surprise. I received a phone survey last night regarding the race. I am assuming it was from the Holt campaign, since I would guess they're the only ones with enough resources to be doing that right now. A large part of the poll was message testing, and from that I have concluded that Holt's campaign believes the main issues will be 1) his response to the pandemic, 2) his leadership of the MAPS 4 process, and 3) fending off attacks from the right on his being a "never Trumper" and supporting the recent infrastructure bill.
This is what Hefner told Channel 9:
"He actually called me to meet. I did not reach out to him, but the call was welcome," Hefner told News 9 anchor Karl Torp.
This sounds very much like he was in town for other reasons (Lahmeyer, Trump support). Not surprising Stone would reach out to the Hefners as she was co-chair of Trump's campaign in Oklahoma and was also heavily involved in GOP fundraising and Robert is rich and well-connected in the oil biz. Who else is going to have dinner with the guy?
OKCretro 01-15-2022, 02:50 PM https://nondoc.com/2022/01/12/okc-mayoral-candidates-invited-to-debate/
any reason why Holt is skipping the debate?
king183 01-15-2022, 03:31 PM https://nondoc.com/2022/01/12/okc-mayoral-candidates-invited-to-debate/
any reason why Holt is skipping the debate?
It’s not to his political advantage to share the stage with people like Urbanic and Hefner. He’s going to win in a landslide, so there is no political benefit. Nevertheless, it’s a disappointing decision as public officials should engage in public debate about the issues. It’s an important part of civic life.
Holt is also being lit up today over the anti-open records legislation he and the city council requested. His explanation for the request and his defense of it is bad and embarrassing. If only there was an opportunity where he would be required to defend those decisions in a public forum and respond to incisive questioning.
Plutonic Panda 01-15-2022, 03:33 PM Just saw a political ad by Hefner claiming crime is plaguing the city suggesting we are on par with Chicago. She blames Holt for this so called crime epidemic. Christ, who the hell believes this crap?
soonerguru 01-15-2022, 06:15 PM https://nondoc.com/2022/01/12/okc-mayoral-candidates-invited-to-debate/
any reason why Holt is skipping the debate?
Why would he want to validate their fringe candidacies?
GoGators 01-15-2022, 06:39 PM Just saw a political ad by Hefner claiming crime is plaguing the city suggesting we are on par with Chicago. She blames Holt for this so called crime epidemic. Christ, who the hell believes this crap?
Pretty typical right wing strategy of claiming cities are somehow scary. Works great on people who have never visited the cities that right wing candidates are talking about. Not sure how that works in a mayoral race though lol.
Plutonic Panda 01-15-2022, 09:52 PM Pretty typical right wing strategy of claiming cities are somehow scary. Works great on people who have never visited the cities that right wing candidates are talking about. Not sure how that works in a mayoral race though lol.
I don’t know what’s funnier considering the fact that I just walked through Chicago at night in multiple places and had zero problems same thing in LA and I’m about to go next week back to my apartment.
Or the fact that David Holt isn’t right wing enough for the conservative nut jobs in Oklahoma.
barrettd 01-16-2022, 09:23 AM I don’t know what’s funnier considering the fact that I just walked through Chicago at night in multiple places and had zero problems same thing in LA and I’m about to go next week back to my apartment.
Or the fact that David Holt isn’t right wing enough for the conservative nut jobs in Oklahoma.
Yes, there were many times I did not agree with Holt as a state Senator, but I think he represents the city very well, and does a good job bridging the political divide, at least locally. A lot of my friends who are strong supporters of Holt would never have voted for him when he was in the state legislature.
Jersey Boss 01-16-2022, 09:44 AM Why would he want to validate their fringe candidacies?
Is Jimmy Lawson a fringe candidate also?
I never see his name mentioned as far as campaign issues, vision, etc.
April in the Plaza 01-16-2022, 09:53 AM https://nondoc.com/2022/01/12/okc-mayoral-candidates-invited-to-debate/
any reason why Holt is skipping the debate?
It sounds like he’s scared!
soonerguru 01-16-2022, 01:30 PM Is Jimmy Lawson a fringe candidate also?
I never see his name mentioned as far as campaign issues, vision, etc.
Not in the sense of running a crazy train campaign. Just not much infrastructure there to run a legitimate campaign. No offense to him personally, just not much there as far as a serious campaign.
soonerguru 01-16-2022, 01:32 PM It sounds like he’s scared!
Haha, no. It would actually be entertaining to watch him own the debate but it wouldn't add anything to his campaign and would give free pub to the folks who don't really have much support at all.
Plutonic Panda 01-16-2022, 01:33 PM It sounds like he’s scared!
It sounds like you’re Steve Hunt with a different account.
April in the Plaza 01-16-2022, 01:45 PM It sounds like you’re Steve Hunt with a different account.
Meh, it’s just very much an “Inhofe” look.
I’m surprised Holt is comfortable with that. But whatevs.
Dob Hooligan 01-16-2022, 03:22 PM I think the opponents are all fringe candidates, either through money or position, and Mayor Holt is about as center as be crafted. Not only is there no gain in sitting out this debate, there also is no downside.
Bill Robertson 01-16-2022, 03:55 PM ^This
Holt debating these opponents would be like OU scheduling Southwest Mississippi State, North Missouri Basket Weaving College, Arkansas Pig Farmer U and Michigan Ice Fishing College in an attempt to make the committee's playoff vote.
Laramie 01-20-2022, 06:26 PM Reminder:
The election for Mayor of Oklahoma City is Tuesday, February 8, 2022
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If you need more information contact the Oklahoma County Election Board - 4201 North Lincoln Boulevard, Oklahoma City, OK 73106
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Don't forget to exercise your right to vote.
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shawnw 01-20-2022, 11:38 PM Reminder:
The election for Mayor of Oklahoma City is Tuesday, February 8, 2022
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Today, January 20 is the last day to request an absentee ballot. You must reapply with your county election board each year.
If you need more information contact the Oklahoma County Election Board - 4201 North Lincoln Boulevard, Oklahoma City, OK 73106
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Don't forget to exercise your right to vote.
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Correction, the deadline is January 24th by 5pm, you still have time.
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catcherinthewry 01-22-2022, 11:20 AM Does anyone else have the honor of receiving text messages from Carol Hefner's campaign? So far she doesn't have any policy positions and seems to think the fact that she supports a former president who tried to overthrow the 2020 election and incited a violent insurrection qualifies her to be our next mayor.
soonerguru 01-22-2022, 03:59 PM When she loses, will Carol claim the election was rigged and there was massive voter fraud? Perhaps the homeless people she said Holt had bused in to OKC will tip the electoral scales in his favor. :)
The debate will be televised tonight (Tuesday 1/25) at 5:45 PM on news9.com.
Oklahoman is reporting that Holt has a 55 point polling lead over the closest competitor.
Also says Holt has raised $700,000. Urbanic: $14,000; Lawson: $4,000; Hefner has yet to report.
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2022/01/25/big-lead-reelection-effort-holt-declines-invitation-debate/6594441001/
Plutonic Panda 01-25-2022, 09:19 PM Full video: https://www.news9.com/story/61f0b491bccf0f0725a9f047/watch:-oklahoma-city-mayoral-debate-full-video
Twitter thread courtesy of OKCSPAN: https://twitter.com/okc_span/status/1486123192070643714?s=21
Plutonic Panda 01-26-2022, 12:46 PM Free Press OKC article on the debate:
https://freepressokc.com/mayor-holt-sits-out-debate-other-candidates-take-turns-delivering-ideas/
TheTravellers 01-26-2022, 12:53 PM Free Press OKC article on the debate:
https://freepressokc.com/mayor-holt-sits-out-debate-other-candidates-take-turns-delivering-ideas/
Good thing Holt sat this one out, what a clown show.
Plutonic Panda 01-26-2022, 12:54 PM My thoughts too. Being involved in this seems like it would only hurt him. The good old saying that you can argue with idiots in front of a crowd for only so long until they can’t tell who’s who.
jerrywall 01-26-2022, 01:07 PM Free Press OKC article on the debate:
https://freepressokc.com/mayor-holt-sits-out-debate-other-candidates-take-turns-delivering-ideas/
Urbanic successfully sued the City of Oklahoma City to allow bars to stay open late during the previous height of the deadly pandemic that has claimed the lives of nearly 12,000 Oklahomans.
What an accomplishment.
Plutonic Panda 01-26-2022, 01:12 PM I thought bars could already stay open until 2am? Wasn’t sure what they accomplished.
jerrywall 01-26-2022, 01:17 PM I thought bars could already stay open until 2am? Wasn’t sure what they accomplished.
During the first Covid peak, when we were locking down, the city put an order for all restaurants and bars to close at 11pm.
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/columns/2020/11/27/bartenders-club-owners-sue-okc-holt-over-covid-curfew/313736007/
onthestrip 01-26-2022, 01:54 PM I agree its weak of Holt not to show up but when you think about it, why would he even consider sharing the stage with that crazy facebook aunt that is Carol Hefner? Not to mention she's just an outright liar. She interviewed 92 homeless people and 89 of them were bussed to OKC from the west coast? Good lord what a load of BS. Islam needs to be eradicated from OKC? She spouts absurdities.
Frank Urbanic said on The Lost Ogle podcast that Carol Hefner demanded $3,300 per month to continue supporting him.
According to him, he refused and that's when she decided to run against him (after publically endorsing Urbanic).
Urbanic also said he had no idea about her previous controversial social media posts or anything much about her before she endorsed him.
Also claims Hefner met with him in person and asked him to leave the race because she was planning to run.
jerrywall 01-26-2022, 02:08 PM Urbanic also said he had no idea about her previous controversial social media posts or anything much about her before she endorsed him.
Wow. That's a level of engagement and awareness that will really benefit a mayor of OKC.
Midtowner 01-26-2022, 02:11 PM Frank Urbanic said on The Lost Ogle podcast that Carol Hefner demanded $3,300 per month to continue supporting him.
According to him, he refused and that's when she decided to run against him (after publically endorsing Urbanic).
Urbanic also said he had no idea about her previous controversial social media posts or anything much about her before she endorsed him.
Also claims Hefner met with him in person and asked him to leave the race because she was planning to run.
Urbanic seems like a pretty decent guy. A colleague of mine, who is a big GOP supporter, and I'd say a friend, volunteers her time on his campaign. I think Urbanic might have seen an opportunity for a decent campaign if he rode the anti mask/anti vax wave. That might've worked pretty well someplace like Guthrie. It's a win-win for him. Even if he loses, he's had a ton of free publicity that he's an attorney in private practice, and for the most part, other people are paying for the publicity.
Carol Hefner is just an entitled housewife with nothing other to do than play politician.
I'm glad we have a quiet, non-partisan mayor, who does a fine job at being OKC's part time cheerleader. I'm thankful for all of our underpaid Council members as well who give up lots of time for this city taking on serious subjects.
But all of this is pretty tame compared to the 'ol Brent Rinehart comic book.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5403426&page=1
Laramie 01-26-2022, 04:24 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-v6muWNi2A
Richard at Remax 01-26-2022, 09:37 PM I got a mailer from Urbanic. One of the bullet points was he proposed on Fox and Friends. I dunno how that qualifies you to be mayor but it's funny that it was printed
soonerguru 01-26-2022, 11:10 PM The debate will be televised tonight (Tuesday 1/25) at 5:45 PM on news9.com.
Oklahoman is reporting that Holt has a 55 point polling lead over the closest competitor.
Also says Holt has raised $700,000. Urbanic: $14,000; Lawson: $4,000; Hefner has yet to report.
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2022/01/25/big-lead-reelection-effort-holt-declines-invitation-debate/6594441001/
The Oklahoman's coverage of this "debate," pre and post, is embarrassing. It provided a significant platform for unserious fringe candidates through its coverage. I predicted this would happen, but it's still disappointing to see.
Nondoc also should be ashamed for its stupid pandering and substance-free self promotion. I thought Tres Savage's comments were especially superficial when he called out Mayor Holt for not participating in this wholly self-serving chimera. This is not journalism and this is not real life and this was not a real debate.
Regarding the "debate," the candidates present demonstrated a total lack of understanding about how civic government works. Literally all of them, regardless of position. And how did the moderators do? They did a woeful job of fact checking these civic morons, underlining the ridiculousness of the premise that this was somehow helping voters make an informed decision.
Lawson showed he has paid scant attention to the multiple homeless initiatives the citizens have already voted for. He even advocated for things that are already funded and happening, suggesting that the entire basis of his candidacy is untethered from reality.
And, of course, Urbanic and Carol were lost in some bizarre right-wing dystopia, painting the picture of a crime-riddled city where fire and police personnel are out of work and unsupported and it's not safe to leave your home. Do you believe that's a reasonable depiction of OKC?
Nondoc and "NEWS 9" argued that this "debate" was something that would benefit our democracy and system of civic government. Really??
I do wish there were a legit debate, but that would only be possible if there were legit candidates, and, other than Holt, there aren't any.
jerrywall 01-27-2022, 11:08 AM ^^ I agree. I was somewhat disappointed by Nondoc's participation/validation of these fringe positions and this "debate".
Laramie 01-27-2022, 08:17 PM I agree its weak of Holt not to show up but when you think about it, why would he even consider sharing the stage with that crazy facebook aunt that is Carol Hefner? Not to mention she's just an outright liar. She interviewed 92 homeless people and 89 of them were bussed to OKC from the west coast? Good lord what a load of BS. Islam needs to be eradicated from OKC? She spouts absurdities.
They all would have ganged up on him like a bunch of coyotes attacking a buck. Mayor Holt having been in the Oklahoma Legislature and OKC Mayor since 2018 obvious knows about the city's MAPS initiatives and TIF funding.
The candidates running against him were totally ignorant about moving parts of city government operations involving MAPS & TIF funds. Mayor David Holt could have mopped the floor with all three candidates.
Mrs. Carol Hefner tried to look tough, braggart and experienced. Mrs. Hefner are you listening; you don't dare undo a MAPS 4 Initiative passed by the citizens who participated in the vote and talk about what you would have done with those funds.
king183 01-28-2022, 01:56 PM ^^ I agree. I was somewhat disappointed by Nondoc's participation/validation of these fringe positions and this "debate".
Without the Nondoc debate the only exposure to these candidates most people would have had are their absurd mail pieces and TV ads. I'm much happier that their lack of understanding of how the city works, their chaotic approach to governing, and their focus on non-city issues was exposed in a larger forum and is on record. You have to trust the electorate to see these candidates for what they are and they can't do that if the only exposure they have is the candidates' own PR material. And I'd argue the voters of OKC have earned that trust.
Midtowner 01-28-2022, 02:06 PM Mrs. Carol Hefner tried to look tough, braggart and experienced. Mrs. Hefner are you listening; you don't dare undo a MAPS 4 Initiative passed by the citizens who participated in the vote and talk about what you would have done with those funds.
MAPS passed with overwhelming support despite organized resistance. What joke of a consultant told her to come out against MAPS in a race where winning a majority of the votes is the end game? That's just monumentally stupid. C'mon, it's math.
Plutonic Panda 01-30-2022, 09:59 PM There’s no one better right than Holt. Holt is the best of bad situation and that’s just a fact. You aren’t changing it. But then you don’t seem to want OKC to boom and become prosperous given you have previously said you don’t like vibrancy and every you wrote about not liking it are attributed most booming metros have. Nothing personal, but I want to see OKC become a boomtown and you don’t seem to want that.
Holt is continuing the legacy of the previous mayors promoting OKC and walking a fine but well comfortable line between the most liberal city in the state yet understanding it’s a small stronghold in a sea of ultra conservatives. Oklahoma was the only state that every county voted for Trump. OK County came the closest for majority voting blue. Mayor Holt knows how to walk on thin ice. Clearly the good old white boys club sees what is happening and made one of the blatant gerrymandering moves with no shame I’ve ever seen.
TheSteveHunt 01-31-2022, 11:31 PM I am trying to be civil and discuss serious things, I wish you wouldn't delete my messages.
Plutonic Panda 02-04-2022, 04:13 PM ^^^ I haven’t deleted anything nor do I have the ability to do so.
Early voting has begun: https://freepressokc.com/early-voting-begins-in-city-of-oklahoma-city-race-for-mayor/
soonerguru 02-06-2022, 04:46 PM I just got spam texted a scary video from Carol. Apparently OKC has descended into an urban hellscape tantamount to the worst parts of Chicago. At least, that's what Carol said in her scary doomsday video.
Being spam texted is the most low rent, intrusive form of campaigning. Of course I unsubscribed from the number I never subscribed to and blocked all future messages but it's funny that people think this is an effective way to persuade voters.
mkjeeves 02-06-2022, 05:36 PM Her people deleted my post and banned me from her Facebook page weeks ago for saying Holt is a better choice.
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