Not strange at all as OU fans do not want to lose out on a New Years 6 bowl. If OSU wins that could cause OU to slip out of the top 11. The top 11 in power 5 conferences are close to a sure thing to play in a major bowl. With Louisville losing OU will jump to 11 this week.

the big 12 title game has almost 0 impact on OU being in the top 11 (really OU need to be 10 if FSU makes the playoff)

Or even better, beat OU and win 8 other regular season games. But seriously, this is like 1990 thinking, OSU has hit double digit wins half the time the last 14 seasons with a chance to do it again this year.

The wildest thing to see this year is OU fans rooting for Texas. Pretty strange to see.

I'll always pick Texas over OSU, if for no other reason than to be a gatekeeper for the bluebloods.

Also I really wanted the championship game to be OU vs Texas as a finger to the Big 12 pettiness, but I'll take Texas winning and OU and Texas going out this year with the best 2 records as good enough.

I've never been more ready to be done with a season. No other fans of Big 12 teams wanted to ever have a conversation this year other than hoping OU lost cause they were leaving the Big 12. Good riddance Big 12 enjoy being the 4th banana in a 2 conference league.

Or even better, beat OU and win 8 other regular season games. But seriously, this is like 1990 thinking, OSU has hit double digit wins half the time the last 14 seasons with a chance to do it again this year.

The wildest thing to see this year is OU fans rooting for Texas. Pretty strange to see.

Meh, credit where it’s due to OSU especially after the way their season started. They beat us and it’s not even a three way tie for second anymore since KSU lost on Saturday (really cool snow game to watch). Head to head winner should go in a two way tie, should be no argument there.

I will never root for Texas. I don’t care if them winning means a better consolation bowl game for OU. OSU is essentially irrelevant to OU’s future at this point and I don’t want Texas getting the recruiting bump from all the exposure that they’d get after a big 12 championship and potential playoff berth. Unless there’s a way both can lose, Cowboys all the way in that matchup.

I'll always pick Texas over OSU, if for no other reason than to be a gatekeeper for the bluebloods.

Also I really wanted the championship game to be OU vs Texas as a finger to the Big 12 pettiness, but I'll take Texas winning and OU and Texas going out this year with the best 2 records as good enough.

I've never been more ready to be done with a season. No other fans of Big 12 teams wanted to ever have a conversation this year other than hoping OU lost cause they were leaving the Big 12. Good riddance Big 12 enjoy being the 4th banana in a 2 conference league.

Expecting the other Big 12 schools to politely wish UT/OU on their merry way was incredibly naive. What did you expect? lol

I agree that credit is due for OSU being at the right place on the right time for records to line up as them being the #2 Big 12 team. But we'll get over any good things the exposure UT might see from winning the CCG. I've already borrowed a UT tee shirt and I'm all Horns for this game even though it might physically hurt.

the big 12 title game has almost 0 impact on OU being in the top 11 (really OU need to be 10 if FSU makes the playoff)

The playoff should look like this:
Michigan - assuming they beat Iowa
Oregon/Wash winner
Georgia/Bama winner
FSU - assuming they beat Louisville

If FSU loses that opens the door for Texas or Ohio State to get into the playoff. I don't think OU gets a NY6 bowl invite.

I agree that credit is due for OSU being at the right place on the right time for records to line up as them being the #2 Big 12 team. But we'll get over any good things the exposure UT might see from winning the CCG. I've already borrowed a UT tee shirt and I'm all Horns for this game even though it might physically hurt.

Im telling you all, even subtle digs like this is making this season all the better for OSU fans. As if OSU, with all the luck and fortune any team could ever had, being in the right place at the right time, snuck into the conference title game. Not that they had the second best record and beat the other top teams that they had to beat, just sheer happenstance I guess. These comments are just an added bonus to this season.

And I still cant get over the amazingly quick 180 degree turn on OSU not being OU's rival to OU fans openly rooting for Texas to beat OSU.

Im telling you all, even subtle digs like this is making this season all the better for OSU fans. As if OSU, with all the luck and fortune any team could ever had, being in the right place at the right time, snuck into the conference title game. Not that they had the second best record and beat the other top teams that they had to beat, just sheer happenstance I guess. These comments are just an added bonus to this season.

And I still cant get over the amazingly quick 180 degree turn on OSU not being OU's rival to OU fans openly rooting for Texas to beat OSU.

Well, OU's 10-2 record is better than OSUs 9-3 record, right? And technically both OU and OSU are 7-2 in conference play so they're evenly matched there.

Also OU is #12 and OSU is #19 in both the Coaches and AP polls, in case you hadn't seen the update.

I mean, technically speaking since you said they have the second best record. OSU just has the head-to-head.

The playoff should look like this:
Michigan - assuming they beat Iowa
Oregon/Wash winner
Georgia/Bama winner
FSU - assuming they beat Louisville

If FSU loses that opens the door for Texas or Ohio State to get into the playoff. I don't think OU gets a NY6 bowl invite.

If Georgia losses you have 3 teams that could get in. Georgia, Texas, Ohio St. I think Texas is in conference champion and that win at Alabama is HUGE FOR THEM HUGE. I said it way back in September that is a huge win. It also could be the first time we have ever had 4 undefeated teams.

Im telling you all, even subtle digs like this is making this season all the better for OSU fans. As if OSU, with all the luck and fortune any team could ever had, being in the right place at the right time, snuck into the conference title game. Not that they had the second best record and beat the other top teams that they had to beat, just sheer happenstance I guess. These comments are just an added bonus to this season.

And I still cant get over the amazingly quick 180 degree turn on OSU not being OU's rival to OU fans openly rooting for Texas to beat OSU.

Snuck, luck and fortune are your words. Not mine. I really didn't mean it as a subtle or otherwise dig. I work with numbers. Numbers in their proper columns are what make such decisions as CCG participants. The numbers put OSU in the CCG. I can live just fine with that. Anything more read into what I said is an OSU fan wanting to hold animosity toward OU fans.
And I don't get the OSU isn't a rival crap either. Some morons came up with that.

the big 12 title game has almost 0 impact on OU being in the top 11 (really OU need to be 10 if FSU makes the playoff)

Why does OU need to be 10? 6 bowl games, 11 power 5 slots, one slot for Tulane or Liberty.

Why does OU need to be 10? 6 bowl games, 11 power 5 slots, one slot for Tulane or Liberty.

because if FSU makes the playoff (with a win they are in)

the Orange Bowl HAS to select an ACC team per their contract (no matter where that team is ranked ) and Louisville would go to the Orange Bowl even though that would have 3 losses and be ranked close to 20


the Sugar (Big12/SEC) and Rose (BIG/PAC) have the same deals but they are not in effect when those bowls host Semifinals ..

because if FSU makes the playoff (with a win they are in)

the Orange Bowl HAS to select an ACC team per their contract (no matter where that team is ranked ) and Louisville would go to the Orange Bowl even though that would have 3 losses and be ranked close to 20


the Sugar (Big12/SEC) and Rose (BIG/PAC) have the same deals but they are not in effect when those bowls host Semifinals ..

What would prevent OU being the opponent? But yeah with that tie in 10 would be more a sure thing

What would prevent OU being the opponent?

because all other NY6 slots are filled by CFP ranking ..

meaning the top 10 are in then Louisville then the G5 highest rated champ ..


so OU would need to be 10th to make the NY6 ..

]Im telling you all, even subtle digs like this is making this season all the better for OSU fans. As if OSU, with all the luck and fortune any team could ever had, being in the right place at the right time, snuck into the conference title game. Not that they had the second best record and beat the other top teams that they had to beat, just sheer happenstance I guess.[/B] These comments are just an added bonus to this season.

And I still cant get over the amazingly quick 180 degree turn on OSU not being OU's rival to OU fans openly rooting for Texas to beat OSU.

There would be less of this if OSU hadn't gotten blown out at home by a G5 team that's tied for 7th in its conference and been blown out on the road by a former G5 team in UCF that's ranked 9th in the conference and only became bowl eligible with it's last win of the season. Still won the games they had to in order to make it when OU and others didn't though and that's all you have to do to get in. No complaint from me at this point. If OU wanted it, they shouldn't have lost to Kansas and OSU.

Expecting the other Big 12 schools to politely wish UT/OU on their merry way was incredibly naive. What did you expect? lol

I don't know people to act like an adult. Not like I can control it. I'm fine with saying we want to beat OU because ya'll are gone next year. They didn't care about having any conversation other than the conference one. That gets old after week 1.

It's just interesting and sad to see that change.

My original desire would have been that OU and UT would have stayed in the Big12. I don't like the idea of going to the SEC. We'll be fine there but I like tradition and the Big12 was tradition. I believe the Big12 should have pulled their head out 5 or 6 years ago. If they had and seen that realignment/expansion was inevitable and had jumped first instead of almost last and added the same teams they've added now I believe OU and UT would have stayed. That could have created a Big18 or 20 that could have competed with the Big10 snd SEC. Yeah, contracts would get in the way but there's never been a contract that couldn't be rewritten.

My original desire would have been that OU and UT would have stayed in the Big12. I don't like the idea of going to the SEC. We'll be fine there but I like tradition and the Big12 was tradition. I believe the Big12 should have pulled their head out 5 or 6 years ago. If they had and seen that realignment/expansion was inevitable and had jumped first instead of almost last and added the same teams they've added now I believe OU and UT would have stayed. That could have created a Big18 or 20 that could have competed with the Big10 snd SEC. Yeah, contracts would get in the way but there's never been a contract that couldn't be rewritten.

I feel real similar. Wished Nebraska never left as well. The leadership was never good at the right time. What could have been.

I have been an Ou fan since I met Bosworth and Casillas (driving Mr. Switzer's corvette) at a birthday party when I was a kid.
One of my kids will be attending next year as she was accepted.
I never root for Texas.
I never do the horns down, even when playing them.
I always get mad when I see it every time the camera pans to the crowd, especially during other opponents.
I never root for Osu.
I never say "Osu sucks" when the crowd chants it.
I am glad that Ou is not playing Texas because I don't think the outcome would be the same this time.
I don't care that Osu fans want to celebrate this years win because when you are 71 wins behind in the series, you have not had much to cheer about.

I feel real similar. Wished Nebraska never left as well. The leadership was never good at the right time. What could have been.

Nebraska should have never left, they were never the same after they left

Nebraska should have never left, they were never the same after they left

Nebraska left due to the perception Texas was running the league for the benefit of Texas.

My original desire would have been that OU and UT would have stayed in the Big12. I don't like the idea of going to the SEC. We'll be fine there but I like tradition and the Big12 was tradition. I believe the Big12 should have pulled their head out 5 or 6 years ago. If they had and seen that realignment/expansion was inevitable and had jumped first instead of almost last and added the same teams they've added now I believe OU and UT would have stayed. That could have created a Big18 or 20 that could have competed with the Big10 snd SEC. Yeah, contracts would get in the way but there's never been a contract that couldn't be rewritten.

After seeing the programs coming into the "new Big 12", it's going to do fine. In fact it will be an incredibly competitive conference.

My original desire would have been that OU and UT would have stayed in the Big12. I don't like the idea of going to the SEC. We'll be fine there but I like tradition and the Big12 was tradition. I believe the Big12 should have pulled their head out 5 or 6 years ago. If they had and seen that realignment/expansion was inevitable and had jumped first instead of almost last and added the same teams they've added now I believe OU and UT would have stayed. That could have created a Big18 or 20 that could have competed with the Big10 snd SEC. Yeah, contracts would get in the way but there's never been a contract that couldn't be rewritten.
B12 isn’t all about tradition. It has morphed many times as it was Big 8 prior to even the many changes within the new name of B12. Teams changed. It wasn’t even 12 teams for much of its existence.

OU has been in 6 different conferences since 1915. They’ve won over 50 conference championships in that 107 years. They’ve won more than 75% of their conference games. The tradition is with OU, not their conferences.

After seeing the programs coming into the "new Big 12", it's going to do fine. In fact it will be an incredibly competitive conference.

Ehhhh….I don’t know if “fine” would be accurate. They finished 9, 11, 12 and 14th in the league this year but I do think with a few years to recruit the depth they need to win against better competition, that they’ll be okay. It was just very obvious watching them that none of them had the competitive depth to play a full four quarters and come out on top week in and week out against a higher tier of competition.

Ehhhh….I don’t know if “fine” would be accurate. They finished 9, 11, 12 and 14th in the league this year but I do think with a few years to recruit the depth they need to win against better competition, that they’ll be okay. It was just very obvious watching them that none of them had the competitive depth to play a full four quarters and come out on top week in and week out against a higher tier of competition.

I'm guessing he is referring to the 4 corner schools joining next year. Assuming they are more used to P5 play and all have showed some buzz during this season that give hope.

B12 isn’t all about tradition. It has morphed many times as it was Big 8 prior to even the many changes within the new name of B12. Teams changed. It wasn’t even 12 teams for much of its existence.

OU has been in 6 different conferences since 1915. They’ve won over 50 conference championships in that 107 years. They’ve won more than 75% of their conference games. The tradition is with OU, not their conferences.I know the history of OU well. But, going back just to the 60s the Big8/Big12 have built quite a tradition of excellence with Nebraska, UT and OU. Yeah OU's history goes way back from there and that matters. But one, not many if any of us on here remember much before the creation of the Big8. And two, in terms of modern football, which is what this is all about, going back before the creation of the Big8 is really not all that relevant.

Going back to the 60s the Big8/Big12 have built quite a tradition of excellence with Nebraska, UT and OU. Yeah OU's history goes way back from there and that matters. But one, not many if any of us on here remember much before the creation of the Big8. And two, in terms of modern football, which is what this is all about, going back before the creation of the Big8 is really not all that relevant.

UT wasn't part of the Big 8 whose "tradition" the Big 12 inherited through morphing. Nebraska's tradition was mostly Big 8.

By appearances in the championship game, OU has 12, Texas 7, Nebraska 6, and all the rest total to 19. OU has won the championship game 11 of the 12 times they've been there. All the rest.... 10 times. Of the 7 total schools (in the current B12) who have actually made it to the championship game, other than OU, only 3 teams have actually won it... 3 for Texas, 2 for KSU and once for Baylor.

THAT is the tradition of the B12. Of 10 who have won their championship game, 7 will be gone after this year. The tradition has walked out the door, football wise.

Basketball.... different story.

UT wasn't part of the Big 8 whose "tradition" the Big 12 inherited through morphing. Nebraska's tradition was mostly Big 8.

By appearances in the championship game, OU has 12, Texas 7, Nebraska 6, and all the rest total to 19. OU has won the championship game 11 of the 12 times they've been there. All the rest.... 10 times. Of the 7 total schools (in the current B12) who have actually made it to the championship game, other than OU, only 3 teams have actually won it... 3 for Texas, 2 for KSU and once for Baylor.

THAT is the tradition of the B12. Of 10 who have won their championship game, 7 will be gone after this year. The tradition has walked out the door, football wise.

Basketball.... different story.
I said Big8/Big12. I didn't separate the two. Most of us over say, 50ish remember those 2 conferences and while yes, they are separate, the morphing really ties the two together. UT has been a major part of the success of the Big12 conference even though I hate to admit it.

I know we don’t necessarily like Texas on this board, but I don’t see how they can legally keep that team out of the playoffs.

I know we don’t necessarily like Texas on this board, but I don’t see how they can legally keep that team out of the playoffs.

Agree on the playoff. Plus, we claim we don’t like Texas, but we damn sure know that Texas doesn’t make any conference move without OU. We are secretly proud that UT and OU are now joined at the hip and embrace the economic power that comes with it.

Agree on the playoff. Plus, we claim we don’t like Texas, but we damn sure know that Texas doesn’t make any conference move without OU. We are secretly proud that UT and OU are now joined at the hip and embrace the economic power that comes with it.Accepting that it's a valuable thing yes. Proud, no way!

Accepting that it's a valuable thing yes. Proud, no way!

The richest public university in America decides they need to partner with Oklahoma before they make a move that throws college football into conference chaos doesn’t make you proud of the power of Sooner athletics?

The richest public university in America decides they need to partner with Oklahoma before they make a move that throws college football into conference chaos doesn’t make you proud of the power of Sooner athletics?No. Even putting that way sounds like UT was calling the plays but needed a partner. At least somewhat putting OU in a follower position. I'd never be proud of my school being a follower. I'm also not convinced that's the way the decision to go to the SEC was made.

So honest opinion, if Oklahoma was a one loss big 12 champion with two wins over Texas would they be getting ahead of Alabama? I don't think they would be. Texas has the head-to-head win and that's going Trump everything

So honest opinion, if Oklahoma was a one loss big 12 champion with two wins over Texas would they be getting ahead of Alabama? I don't think they would be. Texas has the head-to-head win and that's going Trump everything

Agree. I think the committee would have legitimate fatigue from OU getting beaten pretty badly in the semifinals.

No. Even putting that way sounds like UT was calling the plays but needed a partner. At least somewhat putting OU in a follower position. I'd never be proud of my school being a follower. I'm also not convinced that's the way the decision to go to the SEC was made.

Golly. Let me go at this another way.

I think that for, at least, the last half-century OU has been a visionary school at the forefront of college football. My version includes the OU-Georgia TV lawsuit that broke the NCAA stranglehold on TV appearances and paved the way for today's TV sports explosion.

In the 1980s, Arkansas tires of Texas and being in an all Texas SWC and jumps to the SEC. They make money, but become irrelevant and win about as much as Mississippi State.

In the early 1990s, The SWC is drying up and Texas is looking for a way out. OU helms a negotiation where the Big-8 keeps all their teams, takes in the 4 best SWC schools (Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Baylor) and rejects Rice, Houston, SMU and TCU. While also rejecting the proposed new name Big Southwest Conference.

In the early 2010s, Colorado leaves for the PAC. Where they make a little less money, become irrelevant and win about as much as Vanderbilt.

Missouri leaves for the SEC. Where they make good SEC money, become irrelevant and win about as much as Mississippi State.

Texas A&M decides they can no longer co-exist with Texas "running the conference" and also goes to the SEC. Where they add the good SEC money to the ton of money they already have, become irrelevant and win about as much as (or maybe a little more than) Mississippi State.

Nebraska decides they can no longer co-exist with Texas "running the conference" and flee to the B1G. Where they make better B1G money, become irrelevant and win about as much as Mississippi State. While also yearning for the days of OU Thanksgivings.

OU is at the center of all this. Every school that left OU is less successful. Even Texas has been less successful in football than OU during their time together.

Texas is also smart enough to stay tied to OU.

I read today the talks with UConn about joining are on hold. I think the approach by commissioner Yormark is that there are very few future revenue streams that aren't maximized already. But basketball has the most potential. Men's is probably more clearly defined about future revenue dollar potential. And Women's has a greater percentage opportunity to grow, but not necessarily as a dollar amount.

Kinda like what Big Gaming has done with sports betting. Not much net revenue as a percentage of total revenue, but it is about the last additional stream out there.

The missed tackles by OSU on the BYU winning TD last night were crazy. Would have been a nice win for the Pokes.