The design Cube 3 did for this San Antonio development looks similar to the layout for the proposal for Oklahoma City. If we get anything close to this, that would be great.

https://www.cube3.com/portfolio_page/riverplace/

The buildings do look pretty cool.

If our canal went through it (which it could as I've previously showed), then it might get pretty close.

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Any updates on this? I'm looking forward to more detailed renderings.

I'm sure they are in the design process now. More details and renderings will probably be released by the end of this year.

Anyone hearing about updates on this project? Really look forward to the potential of a larger downtown condos project. It's a huge hole in the market.

I've been following the architects of this project CUBE 3, and I haven't seen anything new about this on their website or social media. I suspect they are still in the design phase, and we should see something more concrete before the end of the year.

Since we’re on the subject of Hotel development….There’s an article in the Journal Record about OKC’s booming tourist industry. It was behind a pay wall so I couldn’t read the article.

https://journalrecord.com/files/2021/11/km-tourism.jpg

Tourism business booming in OKC – Oklahoma City, Oklahoma: https://eminetra.com/tourism-business-booming-in-okc-oklahoma-city-oklahoma/822529/

Very cool! Thanks!

https://journalrecord.com/files/2021/11/km-tourism.jpg

Tourism business booming in OKC – Oklahoma City, Oklahoma: https://eminetra.com/tourism-business-booming-in-okc-oklahoma-city-oklahoma/822529/



Chica Sonation!

Chica Sonation!

Haha! That's all I took away from the article.

https://www.travelmole.com/news/hotel/dream-hotel-group-to-open-two-oklahoma-city-hotels/

2024... if they move on it and make that, the timing could be perfect with the resort stuff coming not so far away.

Opening in 2024 probably means they'd need to break ground next year, right?

https://www.unscriptedhotels.com/

https://www.dreamhotels.com/nashville

Dream Hotel Group Sets Its Sights On Oklahoma City

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/dream110921a.jpg

NEW YORK, NY – Celebrated hotel brand and management company Dream Hotel Group today announced plans to open two new Dream Hotel and Unscripted Hotel locations in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma in 2024. Designed by Miami-based CUBE3 Architects and built by general contractor Hensel Phelps, the 220-room Dream Hotel and 174-room Unscripted Hotel will be the centerpiece of a large mixed-use development project with California-based Matteson Capital LLC.

Located at the corner of East Reno Street and Oklahoma Avenue, the 14-story Dream Hotel will feature 220 beautifully designed guest rooms and suites, five dynamic dining and nightlife venues, including an expansive rooftop pool deck, bar and grille with sweeping views skyline view, state-of-the-art health and wellness facilities and 11,000 square feet of flexible meeting and event space. Next door, the 14-story Unscripted hotel will feature 174 well-appointed guest rooms and two signature food and beverage offerings, including a lower-level rooftop bar.

When complete, the $275 million development will add two new lifestyle hotels, 394 guest rooms and suites, seven restaurants and bars, and 150 private residences to Oklahoma City’s growing downtown district. Its proximity to Chickasaw Ballpark, Oklahoma Sports Hall of Fame, PayCom Arena, and historic Bricktown Canal will establish the complex as a fully-amenitized destination, attracting local Oklahomans and travelers to experience the city’s emerging Bricktown Entertainment District.

“We found a great partner in Scot Matteson,” said Dream Hotel Group CEO Jay Stein. “Oklahoma City is an incredible destination to launch our brands and we’re fortunate to collaborate with visionary developers like the team at Matteson Capital who share our ambitions to grow and develop our brands in Oklahoma City and other established and emerging markets across the country.”

Scot Matteson, CEO of California-based Matteson Capital LLC commented, “We are very excited to announce this strategic partnership with Dream Hotel Group. Dream and Unscripted are the centerpiece of this landmark development and the ideal catalyst to help transform Oklahoma City and infuse new energy into an already exciting area of Bricktown.”

Matteson Capital’s local partners, Brad Hogan and Randy Hogan, whose firm was the original developer of Oklahoma City’s Lower Bricktown District added, “This mixed-use development, anchored by Dream and Unscripted, will draw locals Oklahomans and out of town guests to new culinary experiences, live entertainment and one-of-a-kind hospitality that’s unlike anything else in the area. We are grateful for Dream Hotel Group and Matteson Capital’s commitment to bringing this project to life in downtown Oklahoma City.”

Christian Glauser Benz, Vice President of Development for Dream Hotel Group said, “Oklahoma City had been on our radar for quite some time. Following the success of Dream Nashville, we recognized other midsize cities in the Midwest that were ripe for this type of product. Matteson Capital ‘s vision for Oklahoma City embodies the potential that this market represents, and we are honored to partner with them.”

Located east of Oklahoma City’s downtown business district, Bricktown isthe city’s original warehouse and distribution center turned entertainment district. Founded days after the Land Run of 1889, Bricktown was, and still is, a central hub connecting not only railroads and highways, but local citizens and visitors. The thriving urban district is now home to more than 50 restaurants, bars, and retail shops, and a plethora of family-friendly attractions and public art, museums galleries, even an urban beach for summer fun. And when the sun goes down, the party gets started. The canal that runs throughout Bricktown is sprinkled with live music venues and clubs offering a variety of musical stylings every day of the week. The diversity of businesses, educational institutions, housing, and leisure activities make it a true 24/7 destination, and one of the most distinct and historic in Oklahoma City.

Underwritten by a design philosophy that is both surreal and contemporarily chic, Dream Hotels are individually curated properties that together comprise a unique narrative. With locations in the United States and abroad, the design and experience of each property is informed by its locale and taken to Dream status by a pool of world-renowned architects and interior designers. The result is a stay experience well-suited to the discerning traveler who seeks comfort in a truly cosmopolitan atmosphere.

Powered by a philosophy that travel should be an adventure and not a routine, Unscripted the perfect backdrop to discover and celebrate your inner explorer. Every city has a story to tell, and Unscripted adapts to each location, offering beautifully designed, highly activated spaces that meet the needs of both its guests and its home cities. Through hyperlocal food and beverage, thoughtful design, and a culture of friendly service, Unscripted offers the best of the best in ways that are approachable to all.

With 16 hotels in its portfolio today and another 20 locations in various stages of development across the globe, Dream Hotel Group remains one of the fastest growing independent lifestyle hotel companies in the world. Today’s announcement signals another exciting milestone in the continued growth and evolution of the company and its portfolio of lifestyle brands.

Dream Hotels
Our upper upscale lifestyle brand, Dream Hotels was created for global travelers who crave exceptional service and built- in nightlife as part of their stay. Dream boasts ultra-modern properties that invite guests to discover the other side of themselves – one that is equal parts playful and practical.
brand information

Unscripted™ Hotels
Unscripted Hotels is a new hospitality brand and lifestyle concept for the progressive, creative traveler. Every city has a story to tell, and Unscripted adapts to each location, offering beautifully designed, highly activated spaces that meet the needs of both its guests and its home cities.

Dream Hotel Group is a hotel brand and management company with a rich, 30-year history of managing properties in some of the world"s most highly competitive hotel environments. Home to its Dream Hotels, Time Hotels, The Chatwal and Unscripted Hotels brands, Dream Hotel Group encompasses three business lines: Proprietary Brands, Hotel Management and Dining & Nightlife. The Company is committed to the philosophy that forward-thinking design, service and guest experiences should be available across market segments. Dream Hotel Group is dedicated to offering travelers an authentic connection to their chosen destination through a truly original approach. For more information, please visit www.dreamhotelgroup.com and follow @dreamhotelgroup on Twitter.

Nice that they are moving forward, however, according to the press release the hotels have downsized to 14 stories each. The original plan had them being 18 & 20 stories. Here we go...

They will have the same number of rooms though, so I wonder if they decided to go wider instead of taller.

I'm okay with 14. Nothing wrong with more midrise...

14 stories is fine, for me. Otherwise, you get the sore thumb effect. Just my opinion. The fact that they have brands already lined up, and these are highly sought-after brands, is what is important to me.

Nice that they are moving forward, however, according to the press release the hotels have downsized to 14 stories each. The original plan had them being 18 & 20 stories. Here we go...

They will have the same number of rooms though, so I wonder if they decided to go wider instead of taller.

They haven't changed anything.

The 14-stories probably don't include the parking.

It would be nice to see those sidewalks along Reno buffered from the street by trees.

They haven't changed anything.

The 14-stories probably don't include the parking.
Good deal the higher the better

Pete, when is this going on Facebook, I need some good reading material this afternoon.

Good deal the higher the better

Ironic considering the amount of dispensaries we have here... :)

time to rename this thread?

Great news and definitely agree about the sidewalk interaction at Reno. ..

They haven't changed anything.

The 14-stories probably don't include the parking.

Good, hopefully they will release some new renderings soon.

Good deal the higher the better

My motto also, for more than just buildings lol, on a serious note, if the Thunder dont make playoffs until 2024-25 OKC will be unrecognizable to the rest of the nation! Exciting times!!

I really like this proposed project and hope it all materializes. With that said, after reading posts and seeing all the buildings inn the Austin thread, it was a bit deflating. I really wish these were a bit taller to truly impact and stretch our skyline. I would almost rather have 2 buildings with more height than the 3 that will not have as much impact. Don't get me wrong, but imagine if we were to add some residential for rent or for sale on top of the 2 proposed hotels? This city is screaming for more high rise residential in the downtown area. With the new resort coming soon, the demand will only increase. Imagine this project with them being 400-500 feet instead of 250!

I really like this proposed project and hope it all materializes. With that said, after reading posts and seeing all the buildings inn the Austin thread, it was a bit deflating. I really wish these were a bit taller to truly impact and stretch our skyline. I would almost rather have 2 buildings with more height than the 3 that will not have as much impact. Don't get me wrong, but imagine if we were to add some residential for rent or for sale on top of the 2 proposed hotels? This city is screaming for more high rise residential in the downtown area. With the new resort coming soon, the demand will only increase. Imagine this project with them being 400-500 feet instead of 250!

I wish for the exact opposite. I'd rather see these buildings broke out into a number of shorter buildings that line the entire exterior of this property with street level retail adding some life to the rather dead streets on each side (Reno, Blvd) and also create intimate spaces in the gaps in the middle. I'm much more into vibrant urban spaces which people walk in than skylines people gaze at for a few seconds as they pass by on a highway.

BigRed: In looking at the renderings, we are getting three buildings - two hotels and an additional building, taller than those, that will be residential. I assume that's still the plan since that's a new rendering. Three 15-20 story buildings in a cluster will have an impact on the skyline. I find it hard to be "deflated" about that. New to market boutique hotel brands filling a gaping surface parking lot in the midst of the urban fabric. Most cities not named Austin or Nashville would kill for such a thing in this economic environment.

I get DanKrutka's point and largely agree with him, at least in general theory. Street level retail is much more important in an urban environment than tall buildings with little sidewalk presence. But there are a number of other places for that type of infill, so I'm not going to look this gift horse in the mouth.

Should it come to fruition, and combined with the OKANA resort announcement, this would be quite a year for OKC.

These size of buildings will have a great impact when driving on the Boulevard. If anyone has driven on the Dallas North Tollway north of downtown and 635, these will have that affect like all of those mid-rises do.

I'm fine with any and all mid-rise until we get the vast majority of the empty lots and surface parking lots in the Bricktown, Midtown, Scissortail Park area filled in. The obvious exceptions are the Cox Center/Prairie Surf site, as well as the lots in between Myriad and Scissortail. Those developments, whenever they come along, should be as ambitious as possible and if executed correctly should have a huge impact on the overall skyline regardless of what goes on in every other lot. Otherwise, just add as much decent building stock as possible, it's the quickest way to give more blocks an urban feel. I walked from the Angry Scotsman taproom to Paycom Center on Sunday Afternoon and it was just empty lots the whole way through along Reno, even as a huge building boom took place literally two blocks to the north over the past decade.

https://www.unscriptedhotels.com/

https://www.dreamhotels.com/nashville

Man, that Dream property is chic AF.

Very cool that OKC will be one of only five or six Dream properties in the US, including Hollywood, NYC (two locations), Miami and Nashville. What a statement.

Here's a link to the homepage: https://www.dreamhotels.com/destinations

Man, that Dream property is chic AF.

Very cool that OKC will be one of only five or six Dream properties in the US, including Hollywood, NYC (two locations), Miami and Nashville. What a statement.

Here's a link to the homepage: https://www.dreamhotels.com/destinations

i agree .. seem like great adds for OKC

I’ve stayed at the Nashville Dream, it is great! Would stay there every time

Pete (or other real estate gurus) what are the odds of this all coming together? I know you are trying to limit the negativity on here and I understand, so I will withhold my ill-informed thoughts on this specific development. 1-10 are we looking at a solid 9 or a 4?

Man, that Dream property is chic AF.

Very cool that OKC will be one of only five or six Dream properties in the US, including Hollywood, NYC (two locations), Miami and Nashville. What a statement.

Here's a link to the homepage: https://www.dreamhotels.com/destinations

Dang, that's good perspective. This seems like a great addition, regardless the ultimate height. Hopefully now we can expand out further and improve more areas around Scissortail and add more oomph to that proposed Innovation District.

Pete (or other real estate gurus) what are the odds of this all coming together? I know you are trying to limit the negativity on here and I understand, so I will withhold my ill-informed thoughts on this specific development. 1-10 are we looking at a solid 9 or a 4?

They have some very established people involved, although nothing is done until it's done.

My guess is there is a better than 50/50 chance it happens.

They have some very established people involved, although nothing is done until it's done.

My guess is there is a better than 50/50 chance it happens.

Interesting that OKC isn't listed on their "Coming Soon" page:

FUTURE DREAM DESTINATIONS
Palm Springs
Pattaya Na Jomtien
Atlanta Buckhead
Belize
Dallas
Gasveli Maldives
New Delhi
Carabao Island

Interesting that OKC isn't listed on their "Coming Soon" page:

FUTURE DREAM DESTINATIONS
Palm Springs
Pattaya Na Jomtien
Atlanta Buckhead
Belize
Dallas
Gasveli Maldives
New Delhi
Carabao Island

There are a few missing from that list:
Dream Doha
Dream Valle de Guadalupe
Dream Memphis
Dream Cleveland
Dream Las Vegas
Dream San Antonio

https://www.dreamhotelgroup.com/hotels

There are a few missing from that list:
Dream Doha
Dream Valle de Guadalupe
Dream Memphis
Dream Cleveland
Dream Las Vegas
Dream San Antonio

https://www.dreamhotelgroup.com/hotels

OK, like so many websites, their site isn't consistent or accurate. Nevermind, then...

^^^^^^^^^^
Was just going to say, the marketing team and the development team aren't always as coordinated as one might like on projects like this. Whether or not it's listed on the website often isn't a great barometer.

Regarding the likelihood of this happening, I would also give this at the very least a 50/50 chance. Probably more than that.

A lot of money appears to have has been spent on planning and preparation. With Hogan already owning the land, I'd give it a 75%+ chance. It might not be built exactly as proposed (as most projects), but it'll probably get built. I'm not hopping on the "Developers always under deliver in OKC" bandwagon. This is just a large complex project that may require flexibility (which they have).

Comparing this to The Drury hotel: Drury overpaid for the land in my opinion which likely will limit their flexibility in development. I imagine Drury will take the loss, sell it to someone else and move on down the road.

Hogan on the other hand has four keys things here that gives me confidence: money, land, Dream Hotel Group, and a vested interest in the immediate area. That last part to me is most important.

A lot of money appears to have has been spent on planning and preparation. With Hogan already owning the land, I'd give it a 75%+ chance. It might not be built exactly as proposed (as most projects), but it'll probably get built. I'm not hopping on the "Developers always under deliver in OKC" bandwagon. This is just a large complex project that may require flexibility (which they have).

Comparing this to The Drury hotel: Drury overpaid for the land in my opinion which likely will limit their flexibility in development. I imagine Drury will take the loss, sell it to someone else and move on down the road.

Hogan on the other hand has four keys things here that gives me confidence: money, land, Dream Hotel Group, and a vested interest in the immediate area. That last part to me is most important.

The big question mark at this point will be TIF, as they certainly will be looking for some sort of incentive. They'll have to be a little strategic with their request (likely asking for the condos vs. hotels) as I believe the Omni stipulation of no TIF financing for hotels in this area will apply to this development too.

I'm optimistic but we all thought the Canopy was pretty certain but here we are.

That's true. I have already forgotten about Canopy. But that was also during the Bricktown hotel arms-race. At that time (2015ish), we had The Renaissance, Indigo, AC, Hyatt, Fairfield, Ye' Olde Offramp Inn and Canopy hotels all on the drawing board or in the works at the same time. I may be missing more, too. I don't feel as though we're in the same situation today. Bricktown is a little more tempered today than it was then.

I think the new Convention Center pulls weight for the hotels.

That's true. I have already forgotten about Canopy. But that was also during the Bricktown hotel arms-race. At that time (2015ish), we had The Renaissance, Indigo, AC, Hyatt, Fairfield, Ye' Olde Offramp Inn and Canopy hotels all on the drawing board or in the works at the same time. I may be missing more, too. I don't feel as though we're in the same situation today. Bricktown is a little more tempered today than it was then.

The Canopy was proposed by Mazaheri who has always been much more of a speculator than a developer. In fact, he's been trying to sell the Canopy property for some time.

The people involved in this project have a very long track record.

I'm optimistic but we all thought the Canopy was pretty certain but here we are.

Forgot all about the Canopy. Dang, I thought you were talking about the 235 cover for a minute.

Please refresh my memory. What is the Canopy?

A proposed hotel a few blocks East of the Bricktown Ballpark. I believe an auto body shop was at the site at one time.

I think the new Convention Center pulls weight for the hotels.

And the new OKANA resort as well, we are going to see hotels popping up everywhere now, lol. I don't think the hotels being built is what we have to worry about being scraped, its the high-rise condo I'm worried about.

And the new OKANA resort as well, we are going to see hotels popping up everywhere now, lol. I don't think the hotels being built is what we have to worry about being scraped, its the high-rise condo I'm worried about.

If First National is any indication (I know they are apartments), there should be adequate demand for high-rise condos. People want to live in the core though most can't afford it. However, if enough can and someone has the stones to take the shot, it could be successful.

I've always been of the mind that if one developer could be successful, more would follow. In real estate, we rely on comparables to project the success of a planned development. If there are no comparables locally, there is little concrete evidence it will work and banks are reluctant to finance the deal. With enough capital and personal guarantees, banks would be less reluctant and we can see what the real demand is. It just takes developers with stones as big as their bank account. Is this development group them? I don't know.

Any idea when we'll see some renderings for this project?

Glad to see that Pete has updated these in the Downtown Hotel Count Summary [Proposed] count:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD1vpSXXsAQrM5q?format=jpg&name=360x360

https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=34292


Don't see “OKANA Resort 11-story, 404-room hotel."--Is it apart of the Downtown Hotel Summary...

The Canopy was proposed by Mazaheri who has always been much more of a speculator than a developer. In fact, he's been trying to sell the Canopy property for some time.

The people involved in this project have a very long track record.

Exactly

I wish for the exact opposite. I'd rather see these buildings broke out into a number of shorter buildings that line the entire exterior of this property with street level retail adding some life to the rather dead streets on each side (Reno, Blvd) and also create intimate spaces in the gaps in the middle. I'm much more into vibrant urban spaces which people walk in than skylines people gaze at for a few seconds as they pass by on a highway.

Agreed. I really like this project and am hopeful it will be done and be an amazing addition to OKC, but the best parts of cities like San Francisco and New York, in my opinion, are those area that are dense with buildings 3-5 stories high. They have a great amount of vibrancy that the areas with taller buildings lack.

News 9 used the Dream Las Vegas hotel rendering in their story, this is very misleading, as this is not the actual rendering for this project;


https://www.news9.com/story/618cf085b00f2a0bfc91fb5c/new-hotels-coming-to-downtown-oklahoma-city

^

They always just lift our stuff and have never even spoken to me about it. Very strange.

Us insiders know that's not the real rendering. But the average Joe will think it is, lol.

I'm all good with having palm trees in OKC. Lots of heaters will be needed.