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Anonymous. 06-14-2021, 09:56 AM We will likely have a tropical system develop in the GOM this week. It will be named Bill.
This will affect OK's weather by placing us in the dry air zone NW of the low, which means hot temperatures. The recent moisture across the E 1/2 of OK will help cap the actual air temps in the 90s, but heat indexes will be 100-105F. Western OK and TX PH will be into the 100s by end of the week.
short-lived relief may be on the horizon with a break in temperatures over the weekend and again next week.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/namconus/2021061412/namconus_T2m_scus_52.png
C_M_25 06-17-2021, 12:59 PM Folks, I got that feeling that we’ll be setting some heat records this summer. Going to be a brutal one.
I want the gray, rainy weather back.
I want the gray, rainy weather back.
No sh*t.
People die during this type of weather. I don't begin to understand anyone who wishes for it... And then sits inside in the a/c all day.
Roger S 06-17-2021, 01:15 PM No sh*t.
People die during this type of weather. I don't begin to understand anyone who wishes for it... And then sits inside in the a/c all day.
I don't understand those people either.... I don't even use the AC in my truck in this weather..... Walked to Lazy Donkey and Clarity Coffee for lunch today..... I had forgotten what it was like to get back to my office with a hot cup of espresso! ...... Plan on walking 9 holes tonight and will probably get the Trek out for a ride after that.... Now that it's not so humid I'll take this kind of weather, with just enough rain to keep the ponds/lakes at a decent level, all year!
C_M_25 06-17-2021, 01:23 PM Despite the heat, I still find myself outside more during the worst heat when compared to the coldest cold like we had this winter. I’ll take this over last winter any day, but that doesn’t change the fact that the heat of the day is a little brutal without a breeze.
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All I know is I walk 4 miles every night (including last night), and I never, ever see people outside.
Nobody walking, nobody working in their yard. Just lots of closed windows with TV's glowing and a/c's spinning.
SEMIweather 06-17-2021, 01:28 PM I will take this week’s weather all day over the ridiculous humidity we had last week, but it’s still pretty brutal. We will get some short-lived relief Monday through Wednesday as a strong late-season cold front pushes through and drops highs into the 80’s with even lower humidity. Probably our last notable cold front until September. After next Wednesday, the ridge builds back in and we return to the 90’s.
This is not Oklahoma-related, as our drought situation is actually fairly good, but I just don’t see any way around another brutal wildfire season west of the Continental Divide. Looks like yet another summer with a dominant Western ridge resulting in above-normal temperatures/below-normal precipitation for that part of the country.
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I'll bet you anything we see a pretty good drought this summer in Oklahoma.
We're lucky we got a little caught up in May and the first part of this month.
SEMIweather 06-17-2021, 01:37 PM ^
All I know is I walk 4 miles every night (including last night), and I never, ever see people outside.
Nobody walking, nobody working in their yard. Just lots of closed windows with TV's glowing and a/c's spinning.
This city puts absolutely no effort into establishing any decent infrastructure for pedestrians. Only two neighborhoods I’m aware of that have a consistent sidewalk situation are Mesta Park and Heritage Hills. Combine that with the humidity in the summer and the consistent cold north winds in the winter, and it’s a disappointing but unsurprising outcome.
SEMIweather 06-17-2021, 01:40 PM ^
I'll bet you anything we see a pretty good drought this summer in Oklahoma.
We're lucky we got a little caught up in May and the first part of this month.
Going to depend on just how dominant that Western ridge can become, IMO. If it’s strong enough, we could easily see a repeat of 2011/2012 here. Fortunately that’s not what’s currently being forecasted, but of course these pattern are very tough to predict more than 10 days or so in advance.
On the plus side, just over a month or so until our average temperatures start decreasing, lol.
This city puts absolutely no effort into establishing any decent infrastructure for pedestrians. Only two neighborhoods I’m aware of that have a consistent sidewalk situation are Mesta Park and Heritage Hills. Combine that with the humidity in the summer and the consistent cold north winds in the winter, and it’s a disappointing but unsurprising outcome.
It was the same during May and every other month this year.
I'm lucky that since my 'hood has an elementary school in the middle of it, we received a decent amount of new sidewalks. I choose to walk where they exist, which means even in my relatively sidewalk blessed area, I take very circuitous routes. And to cover any real distance, I still find myself walking in the street more than anyone should. It's a simple function of not dealing with a very small cost when streets and homes and businesses were built, versus spending millions and millions after the fact.
The culture in Oklahoma is not to get out and recreate and that is deeply embedded going back generations. Even the people serious about fitness usually go to an indoor gym. I want to be outside as much as I can. And the fact so few people do this is bad for our city in a million ways. We all stay disconnected or don't care that most of this town is hideously maintained. You don't notice or concern yourself with that sort of thing as you blow by in your car. It's shocking and deeply upsetting to see how things are when you are on foot.
Roger S 06-17-2021, 01:45 PM ^
All I know is I walk 4 miles every night (including last night), and I never, ever see people outside.
Nobody walking, nobody working in their yard. Just lots of closed windows with TV's glowing and a/c's spinning.
We went and rode Stinchcombe last night and the parking lot only had 5 cars in it including ours where it had been tough to find parking before the extended rainy period we had.
Didn't drive by Overholser to see how busy it was but it was also a church night.
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On the positive side, that's what I've grown to love about Scissortail Park. Always busy with people of all types. Will be even better when the Lower Park connects downtown to the river.
And as much as I love the Lake Hefner trails, it speaks volumes that until somewhat recently a nice lake in what was always the nicest part of OKC was nothing but weeds and mud. For decades. OKC is extremely late to the recreation game; at least there are now some outdoor options but it's going to take a very, very long time to get things where it should be and start to change the larger mentality.
You only realize all this when you live somewhere else.
catcherinthewry 06-17-2021, 01:53 PM This city puts absolutely no effort into establishing any decent infrastructure for pedestrians. Only two neighborhoods I’m aware of that have a consistent sidewalk situation are Mesta Park and Heritage Hills.
There are a lot of neighborhoods in SW OKC that have sidewalks. Green Valley, Kingsridge, Kings Park, Sky Ranch, Fairview and a lot of other neighborhoods that don't even have names have extensive sidewalk networks.
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New/er neighborhoods have sidewalks because they are now required when there is any sort of construction.
But for most of the last century, the city didn't think they were important and people here got so used to that, the whole thing became this downward spiral we are now desperately trying to pull ourselves out of.
If you live here, you have to have a ton of discipline not to be obese. Eating out and sitting around is deeply embedded in our culture.
Anonymous. 06-17-2021, 02:12 PM Look at new businesses popping up. Still under-utilized rooftops and patios. Lack of heaters or misters. Which pay for themselves in like one year when you consider they extend patio season by 4+ months here.
OKC just hasn't grasped the concept of making outdoors enjoyable....yet.
TheTravellers 06-17-2021, 02:13 PM It was the same during May and every other month this year.
I'm lucky that since my 'hood has an elementary school in the middle of it, we received a decent amount of new sidewalks. I choose to walk where they exist, which means even in my relatively sidewalk blessed area, I take very circuitous routes. And to cover any real distance, I still find myself walking in the street more than anyone should. It's a simple function of not dealing with a very small cost when streets and homes and businesses were built, versus spending millions and millions after the fact.
The culture in Oklahoma is not to get out and recreate and that is deeply embedded going back generations. Even the people serious about fitness usually go to an indoor gym. I want to be outside as much as I can. And the fact so few people do this is bad for our city in a million ways. We all stay disconnected or don't care that most of this town is hideously maintained. You don't notice or concern yourself with that sort of thing as you blow by in your car. It's shocking and deeply upsetting to see how things are when you are on foot.
Again, Venice seems to be opposite of your neighborhood, Pete. When it's not brutally hot out, we see easily 50-60 people each day out walking, jogging, walking their dogs, running, with kids, without kids, etc. We do live on a busy corner in Venice, though, so we probably see more people than somebody living in the middle of a street, and I WFH, so I can see who's out there throughout the day, not just in the evening hours...
SEMIweather 06-17-2021, 02:20 PM ^
On the positive side, that's what I've grown to love about Scissortail Park. Always busy with people of all types. Will be even better when the Lower Park connects downtown to the river.
And as much as I love the Lake Hefner trails, it speaks volumes that until somewhat recently a nice lake in what was always the nicest part of OKC was nothing but weeds and mud. For decades. OKC is extremely late to the recreation game; at least there are now some outdoor options but it's going to take a very, very long time to get things where it should be and start to change the larger mentality.
You only realize all this when you live somewhere else.
Yep. It’s absurd that there still isn’t a nice walking trail all the way around Overholser.
Think about the absurdity of having to get into your car and *drive* to recreation.
No city should be set up that way.
Again, Venice seems to be opposite of your neighborhood, Pete. When it's not brutally hot out, we see easily 50-60 people each day out walking, jogging, walking their dogs, running, with kids, without kids, etc. We do live on a busy corner in Venice, though, so we probably see more people than somebody living in the middle of a street, and I WFH, so I can see who's out there throughout the day, not just in the evening hours...
I exaggerated.
I did see one guy outside. He stepped out onto his porch for a pizza delivery.
And I always see a handful of people but it's absolutely shocking how few.
Roger S 06-17-2021, 02:53 PM Yep. It’s absurd that there still isn’t a nice walking trail all the way around Overholser.
They will start that when I finally get moved to my farm near Ardmore this fall.... Just like they did the trail around Draper when I moved from Moore.... LOL
TheTravellers 06-17-2021, 02:58 PM I exaggerated.
I did see one guy outside. He stepped out onto his porch for a pizza delivery.
And I always see a handful of people but it's absolutely shocking how few.
lol, wish I could do just that little of being outside. Mowed/weed-ate the yard today, along with a troublesome patch of lilies (didn't want to get my hedge clippers all sticky), and sawed off 2 low-hanging branches from one of our juniper trees. Actually did not see anybody out on streets/median during the time I was mowing the front yard.
FighttheGoodFight 06-17-2021, 03:51 PM Only people outside here (after 9am and before 8pm) are the lawn crews and roofers. I don't know how the roofers do it in these conditions.
Our roof is due to be replaced in a few weeks I am going to offer them access to my A/C'd work garage and have some cold water for them. This is too brutal to be in.
Anonymous. 06-21-2021, 08:10 AM Nice cool air has arrived. Showers and thunderstorms are riding down to the SE behind the front. Enjoy the break from the heat today. Highs only in the low 80s tomorrow with a start in the 50s.
jn1780 06-21-2021, 01:43 PM I noticed on Kelly and Memorial intersection that there is a big bump in the road where the road is starting to buckle at the expansion joint. Didn't think we got that much rain.
SEMIweather 06-21-2021, 10:28 PM I noticed on Kelly and Memorial intersection that there is a big bump in the road where the road is starting to buckle at the expansion joint. Didn't think we got that much rain.
The heat caused a couple of sections of SH-66 to buckle between Council and Sara Roads earlier this month, so I'm wondering if this is a similar issue. Not sure why it is happening now considering that we haven't even hit 100F so far this year.
SEMIweather 06-21-2021, 10:29 PM Was out of town over the weekend and just now starting to pay attention to the weather again, but it does appear that Friday Night has pretty good MCS potential.
Anonymous. 06-22-2021, 08:11 AM Yes, this weekend could be start of a nice stretch of some rain chances and cooler temps. Looks promising this far out.
Anonymous. 06-24-2021, 09:52 AM Friday night looks like rain chances will be mostly contained to NW and N OK.
Saturday afternoon and evening things shift further south near I-44 corridor. Locally heavy rain is possible with multiple waves of storms over repeated areas.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/nam3km/2021062412/nam3km_ref_frzn_scus_60.png
mugofbeer 06-24-2021, 10:26 PM 111° in Portland, OR? Good Christ!
Anonymous. 06-25-2021, 08:47 AM Yes some extreme heat for the west coast the next few days. There is some people out there that don't have AC. Their night times should cool off decently, though.
As for OK weather. Our pattern shift is still on schedule beginning tomorrow (Saturday). We should see highs only around 80F for the entire following week with plentiful rain chances as tropical moisture will be streaming up into a stalled out boundary. For solid part of OK, the GFS model is forecasting 5"+ of rain over the next 7 days.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hrrr/2021062512/hrrr_ref_frzn_scus_39.png
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2021062506/gfs_apcpn_scus_37.png
Anonymous. 06-25-2021, 03:55 PM Hi-def short-range models are becoming increasingly bullish on heavy rainfall in OK the next 48 hours. Beginning to hone in on areas just N of I-44 corridor.
Flood watch is out for all of OKC metro and all points from SW to N.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hrrr/2021062518/hrrr_apcpn_scus_48.png
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/nam3km/2021062518/nam3km_apcpn_scus_16.png
Time to put down some fertilizer!
Does anybody have an ETA on when the rain may hit OKC this evening?
Anonymous. 06-25-2021, 04:59 PM Storms are developing now across W/NW OK. They will be moving SW to NE, but the development line will be slowly pushing E.
My guess is rain in OKC around 3-4am.
SEMIweather 06-25-2021, 08:20 PM First complex of storms currently in Western OK and the Texas Panhandle will most likely miss OKC to the north. A second complex should develop behind the first complex later this evening in the Texas Panhandle, and that one should move into OKC around 3-5 a.m. or so. Flash flooding will be the main threat as 1-2" of rain seems like a good bet with this wave of storms, possibly more if the complex stalls out over the Metro (impossible to predict at this time). Additional rounds will be possible thereafter but will be heavily dependent upon the convective evolution tonight into tomorrow morning.
SEMIweather 06-26-2021, 03:50 AM Just got woken up by some strong winds and very loud thunder as an MCS is currently moving into the Metro. Warning is out for 70 mph winds, roughly north and west of the I-35/I-240 interchange
SEMIweather 06-26-2021, 05:13 AM Severe threat is done for the Metro for now. The current convective complex should gradually decrease over the rest of the morning. Most of the Metro should end up getting 1-2" of rain with this complex so there will probably be some ponding on roadways. Another round of convection should then develop early this afternoon. At this time, short-range models appear to be favoring roughly the I-44 corridor for this, although the exact location is likely to change somewhat. Wherever this round occurs, there will again be an isolated hail/wind threat, but more importantly, everything appears to be lining up for a major flooding event, as training of storms seems very likely. Entirely possible that some areas get 3-6" of rain over the next 24 hours in addition to what's already fallen. Definitely worth keeping an eye on this afternoon/evening.
SEMIweather 06-26-2021, 08:36 PM All storms have pretty much split the Metro thus far, and storm motion has been more progressive than I would have expected, so fortunately there haven’t been many flash flooding issues across the state as of right now. The frontal boundary that is triggering this activity will continue to remain stalled out for the foreseeable future, so additional rounds of convection seem likely overnight into tomorrow. Convective evolution will likely be chaotic, there will continue to be a flooding risk anywhere that storms end up training.
Bunty 06-27-2021, 12:08 AM This Weather Underground rain map covers much of the OKC metro centered on OKC as of 11:30 PM, June 26. Most weather stations got over 2" with the lion's share going to the southeast part. The biggest amount there is 5.1", assuming it's accurate.
https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/okcrainamounts62621.png
http://www.mesonet.org/data/public/mesonet/maps/realtime/rainrfc.120hr.png
Bunty 06-27-2021, 11:55 PM Rain amounts reached even more remarkable levels in OKC on Sunday morning. One amount northeast of Hefner Lake got to 7.39". Rain is still in the forecast for Monday with NWA forecasting lighter amounts.
https://stillwaterweather.com/images/okcrain62721.png
Anonymous. 06-28-2021, 09:38 AM Flood threat will be increasing along I-44 corridor as we get into this afternoon and evening.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hrrr/2021062812/hrrr_apcpn_scus_40.png
SEMIweather 06-28-2021, 07:20 PM Possibly a developing flash flood threat as a line of storms slooooowly works its way westward across the Metro.
Frog strangler just started at my house near Penn Square.
Bunty 06-28-2021, 07:37 PM As shown at 7pm by channel 4's Mike Morgan, the storm headed for Oklahoma City sure looked mighty impressive. At least these storms are mainly only severe for heavy rain. In Stillwater, the heavy part of the storm is taking its slow time getting here as well. Just light rain for now.
SEMIweather 06-28-2021, 07:42 PM Approaching 8” of rain over the past 72 hours in large swaths of the Metro. Pretty impressive. Thankfully it’s occurred in three different waves that have been fairly evenly spaced.
Bunty 06-28-2021, 07:56 PM More heavy rain forming just to the south of OKC. Maybe this is already the next wave.
https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/lite/KTLX_loop.gif
SEMIweather 06-28-2021, 08:23 PM Yeah this is starting to look like a prolonged heavy rain event.
soonerguru 06-29-2021, 12:24 PM I have had to lower my pool twice in three days. My personal rain gauge shows that we have received approximately 7 inches at my house since Saturday.
WheelerD Guy 06-29-2021, 10:06 PM When we decided to steal Seattle’s basketball club, I had no idea we were also stealing the City’s weather!
Beats the heck out of 105+!
SEMIweather 06-29-2021, 11:18 PM Yeah. I'm a big fan of the rain, love what this pattern is doing to stave off the drought, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't also a bit disconcerting at this point. Just a lengthy, bizarre break from our more typical early summer weather patterns, especially when set against all of the 110+ degree temperatures in the Pacific NW.
midtownokcer 06-30-2021, 09:14 AM Yeah. I'm a big fan of the rain, love what this pattern is doing to stave off the drought, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't also a bit disconcerting at this point. Just a lengthy, bizarre break from our more typical early summer weather patterns, especially when set against all of the 110+ degree temperatures in the Pacific NW.
It blows my mind that Portland hit 116 on Monday. That's a high that is hotter than cities like OKC, Dallas, and LA have ever experienced in recorded history. In fact, it's a temp that's only been seen in Vegas and Phoenix in terms of major US cities.
Everyone keeps saying this rain reminds them of the Pacific NW. Not at all. This rain (periodic torrential downpours) is more like what they experience in Florida. Seattle averages just 37 inches of rain a year. OKC is about the same.
BG918 06-30-2021, 09:57 AM It blows my mind that Portland hit 116 on Monday. That's a high that is hotter than cities like OKC, Dallas, and LA have ever experienced in recorded history. In fact, it's a temp that's only been seen in Vegas and Phoenix in terms of major US cities.
Everyone keeps saying this rain reminds them of the Pacific NW. Not at all. This rain (periodic torrential downpours) is more like what they experience in Florida. Seattle averages just 37 inches of rain a year. OKC is about the same.
Yep Seattle rain is typically light but more consistent than in OK. It’s not unusual to get 3-4” in one night in OK then go a month with no rain at all.
TheTravellers 06-30-2021, 01:32 PM Yep Seattle rain is typically light but more consistent than in OK. It’s not unusual to get 3-4” in one night in OK then go a month with no rain at all.
Hoping that month comes soon, so tired of mowing a wet-ish yard every 5 days due to the insane growth...
Anonymous. 06-30-2021, 03:51 PM Next round of substantial rain chances comes tomorrow evening. Looks like a much needed strong drink for locations out west.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hrrr/2021063018/hrrr_apcpn_scus_48.png
Plutonic Panda 06-30-2021, 04:36 PM It blows my mind that Portland hit 116 on Monday. That's a high that is hotter than cities like OKC, Dallas, and LA have ever experienced in recorded history. In fact, it's a temp that's only been seen in Vegas and Phoenix in terms of major US cities.
Everyone keeps saying this rain reminds them of the Pacific NW. Not at all. This rain (periodic torrential downpours) is more like what they experience in Florida. Seattle averages just 37 inches of rain a year. OKC is about the same.
Both OKC and LA have experienced temps hotter than 116 degrees.
midtownokcer 06-30-2021, 04:49 PM Both OKC and LA have experienced temps hotter than 116 degrees.
No, they haven't officially. OKC's highest high was 113 on August 11, 1936 and August 3, 2012. LA's official hottest temp. was also 113 in 2010.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/portland-soared-116-degrees-hotter-dallas-miami-la-have-ever-n1272617
Portland, Oregon, soared to a searing 116 degrees Monday, hotter than it has ever been in cities such as Dallas, New Orleans and downtown Los Angeles. In fact, when it comes to major U.S. cities, only Phoenix and Las Vegas have been hotter.
Mississippi Blues 06-30-2021, 06:05 PM 113 degrees is downtown Los Angeles’s official hottest temperature. The hottest official Los Angeles city proper temperature ever recorded is 120 degrees in the Woodland Hills neighborhood in the San Fernando Valley region of Los Angeles, which was recorded less than a year ago (Sept 2020).
PoliSciGuy 06-30-2021, 07:09 PM All these records are gonna fall in the near term future anyways as the climate warms and these things become the norm
WheelerD Guy 06-30-2021, 09:50 PM All these records are gonna fall in the near term future anyways as the climate warms and these things become the norm
Hard to say that for sure.
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