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gopokes88 07-14-2021, 02:08 PM Still down 18% from the June of 2019 high.
https://flyokc.com/sites/default/files/News/June2019Enplanement.pdf
Although American Airlines has actually grown. Amazing the investment they've made here
gopokes88 07-14-2021, 02:09 PM https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2021/07/14/okc-will-rogers-airport-traffic-returns-summer-but-full-recovery-still-distant/7944158002/
Don't know where they got this #
"In June, 180,880 passengers flew out of Will Rogers World Airport,"
Edmond Hausfrau 07-14-2021, 07:02 PM Did you survive
Funny you should ask. Right after takeoff the stewardess announced that the "toilet flusher" was non functional and that they were handing out bottled water for flush function and reminding us not to flush the empty but to place it in the galley. Like I was flying to Cuba circa 1974.
PhiAlpha 07-14-2021, 08:51 PM Didn't we have a PHL nonstop flight that was announced at some point in 2020 or did I make that up? I could've sworn I remember seeing that but it isn't even showing up under the suspended routes on flyokc.com.
catch22 07-14-2021, 10:17 PM Didn't we have a PHL nonstop flight that was announced at some point in 2020 or did I make that up? I could've sworn I remember seeing that but it isn't even showing up under the suspended routes on flyokc.com.
You are thinking of LaGuardia which AA announced, then suspended before it started. They re-announced it not too long ago.
PHL did in fact operate for a year or two before COVID. I think it may have started in 2018. It will come back when European demand comes back.
PhiAlpha 07-14-2021, 11:51 PM You are thinking of LaGuardia which AA announced, then suspended before it started. They re-announced it not too long ago.
PHL did in fact operate for a year or two before COVID. I think it may have started in 2018. It will come back when European demand comes back.
That's right. I couldn't find anything about it getting suspended online and the only thing I could find was the initial announcement. Thank you sir.
catch22 07-15-2021, 12:54 PM Breeze is starting OKC-MSY/SAT today. Routing looks to be.
MSY-OKC-SAT-OKC-MSY
Has anyone used them yet?
Richard at Remax 07-19-2021, 09:03 AM Did I miss where OKC is getting direct flights to Austin via Southwest? I knew AA starts in Novmeber but never saw anything about WN. Was randomly looking at flights there in Nov and came across them.
Downwind17 07-19-2021, 09:18 AM Did I miss where OKC is getting direct flights to Austin via Southwest? I knew AA starts in November but never saw anything about WN. Was randomly looking at flights there in Nov and came across them.
Wow! You are correct. Once-daily nonstop on WN to AUS begins on Sunday, Nov. 7. It's AA vs WN....who will win?
gopokes88 07-19-2021, 10:07 AM Wow! You are correct. Once-daily nonstop on WN to AUS begins on Sunday, Nov. 7. It's AA vs WN....who will win?
Anyone know what service AA is using for OKC-AUS. e175?
catch22 07-19-2021, 10:15 AM Southwest is so frustrating. Decades of ignoring OKC. As soon as other airlines step up and invest in additional nonstop routes they come in and add the same service acting like OKC’s savior.
They always play this game.
HangryHippo 07-19-2021, 10:22 AM Southwest is so frustrating. Decades of ignoring OKC. As soon as other airlines step up and invest in additional nonstop routes they come in and add the same service acting like OKC’s savior.
They always play this game.
It pisses me off because they'll siphon customers from AA, who is actually trying to grow service in OKC and adding destinations. It's obnoxious af.
BG918 07-19-2021, 10:30 AM Wow! You are correct. Once-daily nonstop on WN to AUS begins on Sunday, Nov. 7. It's AA vs WN....who will win?
737 vs E175 (likely). I know which one I would prefer for the flight to AUS
catch22 07-19-2021, 10:35 AM 737 vs E175 (likely). I know which one I would prefer for the flight to AUS
As an aviation fan I of course appreciate the bigger airplanes; but the E175 is probably the best ride in the domestic skies these days. I would take one any day on a transcon trip if they had the range. 2x2 seating with good pitch. Uncrowded lavatories and fast cabin service.
catch22 07-19-2021, 10:41 AM It pisses me off because they'll siphon customers from AA, who is actually trying to grow service in OKC and adding destinations. It's obnoxious af.
They are very stubborn. They harped on and on for years about serving large airports; even made ads targeting travelers in large metros making fun of the legacy carriers for serving ORD, MIA, etc. now they are bitching and moaning about not being able to get gate space in these large airports they refused to serve for 40 years. They were very publicly against serving Denver at all because the costs were too high. They had a 20 year stalemate with Denver about costs; they wanted to pay a lower lease rate than the other airlines because they are Southwest and they don’t have to play by the same rules. Eventually they started service and of course grew Denver to be one of their largest markets.
They are a childlike company that stomps and pouts in the corner until they get their way while everyone else plays by the rules. They are the guy driving down the shoulder for 5 miles to avoid a traffic jam, then flipping people off for not letting him in the traffic lane at the merge point.
BG918 07-19-2021, 11:10 AM They are very stubborn. They harped on and on for years about serving large airports; even made ads targeting travelers in large metros making fun of the legacy carriers for serving ORD, MIA, etc. now they are bitching and moaning about not being able to get gate space in these large airports they refused to serve for 40 years. They were very publicly against serving Denver at all because the costs were too high. They had a 20 year stalemate with Denver about costs; they wanted to pay a lower lease rate than the other airlines because they are Southwest and they don’t have to play by the same rules. Eventually they started service and of course grew Denver to be one of their largest markets.
They are a childlike company that stomps and pouts in the corner until they get their way while everyone else plays by the rules. They are the guy driving down the shoulder for 5 miles to avoid a traffic jam, then flipping people off for not letting him in the traffic lane at the merge point.
I'm loyal to Southwest because of the companion pass. If they drop that or make it increasingly harder to get I'll probably switch to United (who I fly internationally).
gopokes88 07-19-2021, 11:16 AM As an aviation fan I of course appreciate the bigger airplanes; but the E175 is probably the best ride in the domestic skies these days. I would take one any day on a transcon trip if they had the range. 2x2 seating with good pitch. Uncrowded lavatories and fast cabin service.
i usually get upgraded too. single seat first class. amazing
gopokes88 07-19-2021, 11:19 AM I'm loyal to Southwest because of the companion pass. If they drop that or make it increasingly harder to get I'll probably switch to United (who I fly internationally).
I was almost exclusive to SW. Then they cancelled the DAL route and it pretty much nuked my schedule. AA it is.
catch22 07-19-2021, 11:38 AM i usually get upgraded too. single seat first class. amazing
Yep. They are great airplanes. And one of my favorite to work on the ground, very easy to deal with. But a pretty cramped baggage compartment, about 40 inches tall. Many domes have been split on these awful metal grates that cover the smoke detectors.
http://i.imgur.com/FkFfUN5.jpg
LakeEffect 07-19-2021, 11:59 AM As an aviation fan I of course appreciate the bigger airplanes; but the E175 is probably the best ride in the domestic skies these days. I would take one any day on a transcon trip if they had the range. 2x2 seating with good pitch. Uncrowded lavatories and fast cabin service.
A220 is my new favorite on the smaller end. Enjoyed a couple Delta flights so far.
damonsmuz 07-19-2021, 12:22 PM At this rate, I'm rooting for Breeze to announce OKC-DAL just to see what Southwest does ��
HOT ROD 07-19-2021, 12:47 PM Lol
brianinok 07-19-2021, 02:03 PM If anyone here updates OKC's WRWA Wikipedia page, maybe you'd add the Southwest Orlando route too? It annoys me that it is not listed. Ha!
Downwind17 07-19-2021, 03:30 PM Anyone know what service AA is using for OKC-AUS. e175?
Yes, AA is using an E175 for the route.
kukblue1 07-21-2021, 12:21 AM I had a morning flight on a Tuesday in September from OKC to Las Vegas on SWA. It was a direct flight but now it's a connecting flight with a stop in Phoenix. Do flight schedules like this change often? I'm now thinking of rebooking which is free on Southwest since they changed the schedule on me but I'm worried that if I book the direct flight on Monday they'll change that again too. There used to be two direct flights during the week and now there's only one. What's the likelihood it would change again?
Celebrator 07-21-2021, 12:37 AM I had a morning flight on a Tuesday in September from OKC to Las Vegas on SWA. It was a direct flight but now it's a connecting flight with a stop in Phoenix. Do flight schedules like this change often? I'm now thinking of rebooking which is free on Southwest since they changed the schedule on me but I'm worried that if I book the direct flight on Monday they'll change that again too. There used to be two direct flights during the week and now there's only one. What's the likelihood it would change again?
It could change again. All of our SWA flights this summer except for one have been changed. I would book the nonstop (I am assuming that is what you mean by "direct"--which include a stop but no change of plane) on Tuesday. If the flight changes again, they will do it for free as well. We just had a September flight changed on us and the flights they automatically changed us too were terribly timed, etc., so we checked the schedule ourselves and booked an alternative that was even better than the original flight we booked and definitely better than the one they had switched us to with the change.
Frontier and Allegiant also fly to Vegas nonstop from OKC, so you might consider them.
kukblue1 07-21-2021, 09:54 AM It could change again. All of our SWA flights this summer except for one have been changed. I would book the nonstop (I am assuming that is what you mean by "direct"--which include a stop but no change of plane) on Tuesday. If the flight changes again, they will do it for free as well. We just had a September flight changed on us and the flights they automatically changed us too were terribly timed, etc., so we checked the schedule ourselves and booked an alternative that was even better than the original flight we booked and definitely better than the one they had switched us to with the change.
Frontier and Allegiant also fly to Vegas nonstop from OKC, so you might consider them.
Thanks for the info I hopped on the Southwest anniversary sale and my flight was only $187 round trip so it's a pretty good deal. I tried to avoid allegiant.
LakeEffect 07-21-2021, 09:56 AM Thanks for the info I hopped on the Southwest anniversary sale and my flight was only $187 round trip so it's a pretty good deal. I tried to avoid allegiant.
In pre-pandemic times, schedules changes weren't too frequent. But in pandemic-recovery times, the airlines seem to be adjusting their schedules much more often as aircraft, and crews, come back to operation. Like Celebrator said, it could change again. September is still a way out there in this current scheduling environment.
Celebrator 07-21-2021, 10:56 AM Thanks for the info I hopped on the Southwest anniversary sale and my flight was only $187 round trip so it's a pretty good deal. I tried to avoid allegiant.
Great deal! Yeah, Allegiant used to be one to avoid, but I haven't heard the horror stories from flying them in a while, it seems their newer fleet has been helping them operate more smoothly the last couple of years. I would definitely fly them if I got a screamin' deal.
Jeepnokc 07-21-2021, 12:06 PM Great deal! Yeah, Allegiant used to be one to avoid, but I haven't heard the horror stories from flying them in a while, it seems their newer fleet has been helping them operate more smoothly the last couple of years. I would definitely fly them if I got a screamin' deal.
I flew them to one way vegas a couple of months ago as I needed a late night flight. It was new plane and flight was on time and ok. Only complaint was the flight attendants did one pass through for drinks and never saw them again the entire 2 hour flight until we were landing and they did trash run. They spent the entire flight in the galley area chatting.
kukblue1 07-21-2021, 03:34 PM I flew them to one way vegas a couple of months ago as I needed a late night flight. It was new plane and flight was on time and ok. Only complaint was the flight attendants did one pass through for drinks and never saw them again the entire 2 hour flight until we were landing and they did trash run. They spent the entire flight in the galley area chatting.
I did Tulsa to Baltimore with them about 3 years ago and they are not bad but it can get expensive quickly. Oh and both my flights were 2 hours late taking off. Even with paying to check a bag and every other thing they charge for they still usually come out cheaper. I been checking prices for a few months now cause I have wanted to go to Vegas for a while it's been 16 years. When southwest did that sale back in June I jumped on it cause under $200 for SWA is cheap. I still think Frontier and Allegiant were still slightly cheaper but Allegiant flight times are horrible and so are Frontier if I remember correctly
Plutonic Panda 07-21-2021, 10:59 PM Come on OKC, get to this level!
Lol but seriously this is an interesting video for airport and aviation lovers:
https://youtu.be/rv4pOrt4KpM
Celebrator 07-21-2021, 11:44 PM Come on OKC, get to this level!
Lol but seriously this is an interesting video for airport and aviation lovers:
https://youtu.be/rv4pOrt4KpM
Cool video, but I like my Will Rogers just the size it is--not crowded and easy to navigate. Sure I'd like to see more service, but sometimes getting dropped off there to fly out feels like I am being dropped at a charter terminal. Once when my wife had dropped me, I checked in, processed through security, and made it to my gate before she had reached I-44 on her way back home!
dcsooner 07-22-2021, 03:53 AM Cool video, but I like my Will Rogers just the size it is--not crowded and easy to navigate. Sure I'd like to see more service, but sometimes getting dropped off there to fly out feels like I am being dropped at a charter terminal. Once when my wife had dropped me, I checked in, processed through security, and made it to my gate before she had reached I-44 on her way back home!
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catch22 07-22-2021, 10:38 AM Plenty of cool things about busy airports, but they get old.
I miss getting to the airport 15 minutes before my shift started and being able to walk in to work on my own time. Now I have to arrive 30-45 minutes before I start. Go through security screening in a remote parking lot, board a shuttle bus, and take a 15 minute bus ride to my concourse. That’s unpaid time, and there is not really any grace period for being late on account of the bus service. We are expected to arrive early enough to account for missing a bus (they run on 10 minute frequencies right now) or a bus getting held up at security gates, or waiting for taxiway congestion. I have had bus rides to the concourse take 45 minutes before. Plenty of cool things about large airports, but in many ways they are a huge drag and time waster as well.
Celebrator 07-22-2021, 10:44 AM -1
Why -1?
amocore 07-22-2021, 04:16 PM Hello,
I am not sure how Breeze is doing and wish the best but here are some updates :
The following routes will see frequency reductions, dropping from four weekly flights to two:
San Antonio, Texas (SAT)-Oklahoma City (OKC)
San Antonio-Tulsa, Oklahoma (TUL)
It seems SAT is always a deception. I flew it on Frontier and it was half full. Plus the competition is heating up at the neighbor airport of Austin.
catch22 07-22-2021, 04:24 PM They were supposed to receive delivery of several new (used) aircraft; however there was an issue with them that they are resolving with the FAA. Not uncommon, especially when importing used aircraft into the United States from another country. The maintenance paper trail has to be audited completely and this often gets complex dealing with other languages and customs. Maintenance records have to be brought up to US-FAA standards and anything that cannot be proven maintenance-wise has to be completed again. For example, an unreadable maintenance entry on the replacement of a flap actuator would require replacing the actuator, or removing it and inspecting, then re-installation with the correct documentation. If removing and installing the same exact part, then they have to go back into that part's paper trail and verify it is a genuine part and not a fake part or one that was not overhauled at a certified facility. Individual airplanes have libraries full of documents that trace just about everything. It takes quite a bit of work to bring used aircraft onto a carrier's operating certificate.
They trimmed their entire network schedule to account for fewer available airplanes than planned, not just OKC/TUL. This is a wise decision to not spread themselves too thin.
dcsooner 07-22-2021, 06:03 PM Why -1?
I am a pro growth native Oklahoman often distressed by what I perceive is a desire by some to hold on to the status Quo. Your comment just struck me as in that vein of small not progressive thought. I could be wrong ,if so, apologize but I simply hate what I think is Oklahomas general reluctance to go big on anything.
WheelerD Guy 07-22-2021, 09:27 PM I am a pro growth native Oklahoman often distressed by what I perceive is a desire by some to hold on to the status Quo. Your comment just struck me as in that vein of small not progressive thought. I could be wrong ,if so, apologize but I simply hate what I think is Oklahomas general reluctance to go big on anything.
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Celebrator 07-22-2021, 10:47 PM I am a pro growth native Oklahoman often distressed by what I perceive is a desire by some to hold on to the status Quo. Your comment just struck me as in that vein of small not progressive thought. I could be wrong ,if so, apologize but I simply hate what I think is Oklahomas general reluctance to go big on anything.
I am pro-growth as needed, but some of us like living in a smaller city that isn't a pain in the a$$ to live in. I like to tell people that we have a lot of big city amenities without a lot of the big city pains. I like it that way. I am not envious of cities like Nashville that are growing and becoming more of a pain to navigate, becoming more expensive, etc. Being a mid-sized city that's easy to live in is very appealing to me. I lived in Orlando when it exploded in growth in the early 2000s and it sucked to watch it change. Traffic was worse, people became ruder, and everything got more expensive. I like the pace at which we are growing right now.
dcsooner 07-23-2021, 10:24 AM I am pro-growth as needed, but some of us like living in a smaller city that isn't a pain in the a$$ to live in. I like to tell people that we have a lot of big city amenities without a lot of the big city pains. I like it that way. I am not envious of cities like Nashville that are growing and becoming more of a pain to navigate, becoming more expensive, etc. Being a mid-sized city that's easy to live in is very appealing to me. I lived in Orlando when it exploded in growth in the early 2000s and it sucked to watch it change. Traffic was worse, people became ruder, and everything got more expensive. I like the pace at which we are growing right now.
So my perception was correct. I take the opposite stance, where hyper growth in not necessarily fraught with ALL of the negatives you mention. I think city size and hyper growth are not necessarily conduits poor QoL. i now live in Raleigh, NC which has experienced double digit growth for at least 2-3 decades and was recently ranked the 2d most desirable city in the Nation. Growth and Q of L can coexist if leaders plan for the infrastructure to support the growth. You can find rude people anywhere and OKC is no where near capacity to face constant traffic headaches, a whole lotta excess concrete.
dcsooner 07-23-2021, 10:29 AM With Raleigh recently named among the top relocation destinations in the US, we’ve been feeling a little curious about our city’s future. How fast is Raleigh actually growing, and how many people are moving to our city each day? Answer: 64.
According to the US Census Bureau, the Raleigh metro’s population increased from ~1.2 million in 2015 to ~1.5 million today — with an average annual increase of roughly 2% or 29,000 people. To put that into perspective, imagine filling PNC Arena one-and-a-half times.
Now, the Raleigh metropolitan area is a pretty wide swath of land to consider, so let’s break it down a little more.
Raleigh’s growth over time | via US Census
While the Triangle grew by hundreds of thousands over the last five years, the City of Raleigh itself ranks No. 2 among the fastest growing cities in the nation — with 23% growth over the past decade, and a population increase of 77,655 (from 423,520 to approximately 510,175) since 2015. Did you know? None of our local municipalities have seen a population decrease in 10+ years.
�� Cary saw a population increase of 2,240 people (1.32%) over the past year
�� Chapel Hill grew by 684 people (1.07%) last year
�� Durham’s population grew by 4,436 people (1.59%) since 2019
�� Garner saw a population increase of 942 people (3%) over the past year
�� Morrisville grew by 1,412 people (4.89%) last year
�� Wake Forest’s population increased by 1,606 people (3.52%) since 2019
What accounts for the boom? For one thing, the availability of developable land. Opportunity zones and a sprawling suburban and exurban landscape provide varied options for builders. Other contributing factors include the availability of jobs, economic stability, (relatively) affordable housing options + cultural and recreational amenities.
So, what do these growth rates mean for Raleigh’s future? Population forecasts predict that Raleigh’s residents will grow to ~600,000 by 2030.
The recent 2020 census will provide a more definitive look at how our city has grown over the last 10 years + how on-track we are with growth projections for years to come.
Celebrator 07-23-2021, 11:21 AM So my perception was correct. I take the opposite stance, where hyper growth in not necessarily fraught with ALL of the negatives you mention. I think city size and hyper growth are not necessarily conduits poor QoL. i now live in Raleigh, NC which has experienced double digit growth for at least 2-3 decades and was recently ranked the 2d most desirable city in the Nation. Growth and Q of L can coexist if leaders plan for the infrastructure to support the growth. You can find rude people anywhere and OKC is no where near capacity to face constant traffic headaches, a whole lotta excess concrete.
But you see, we ARE growing, but at a pace that is very easy to live with. Quality of life has gone up in the decade+ I have lived here each and every year and without the mobs of additional people. I love it. Sorry, we better get back to aviation here. Apologize for participating in the hijack.
gopokes88 07-27-2021, 04:35 PM Here you go Pete
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Southwest Airlines Announces Nonstop Service to Austin – Bergstorm International Airport
OKLAHOMA CITY, July 27, 2021 – Southwest Airlines announced today that it will begin nonstop service from Oklahoma City’s Will Rogers World Airport to Austin – Bergstorm International Airport in Austin, Texas (AUS) beginning October 7, 2021.
“This is great news for Oklahoma City,” says Mark Kranenburg, Airports Director. “Austin is one of our largest markets and a popular destination for both leisure and business travelers. We appreciate Southwest’s commitment to our community by adding this great market for our passengers.”
As of today’s announcement, Southwest’s nonstop destinations from WRWA includes Atlanta, Chicago Midway, Denver, Houston, Las Vegas, Nashville, New Orleans, Orlando, Phoenix, St. Louis, Tampa and Ronald Reagan Washington National. The new service will bring the average number of daily departures by Southwest to 13.
The new Austin service will operate once daily, the current schedule is as follows*:
AUS to OKC OKC to AUS
Departs 9:00am
Arrives 10:25am
Departs 11:00am
Arrives 12:25pm
*Times may vary slightly
Flights go on sale Friday, July 30 and may be booked through www.southwest.com.
gopokes88 07-27-2021, 04:36 PM Lol Southwest. Takes American and Breeze to finally get them off their a*s and add some routes. Rooting for American personally.
shawnw 07-27-2021, 05:02 PM Is it so wrong to ask for a direct (or even one-stop no getting off [picking people up]) flight to either Santa Fe or ABQ?
catch22 07-27-2021, 05:40 PM Depending on Breeze’s success, an eventual push westward may open up opportunities such as OKC-ABQ, COS, etc. on a less than daily schedule.
Avelo (headed by ex. allegiant CEO and (I think a brief time at United CFO) is expanding in the west, however they are using 737s for these markets which may be too much airplane for these smaller point to point routes. Avelo so far is using the allegiant model of having less than daily flying all out of one base, instead of Breeze doing multiple point to point flights between cities. So I think Avelo would be a long shot on such a route as OKC-ABQ. SAF is most decidedly not likely on either carrier, or any carrier for that matter.
And of course if Breeze added OKC-ABQ Southwest would
Jump on it and throw themselves a parade on how great they are for connecting these two “important cities” in their network.
BG918 07-27-2021, 10:51 PM ABQ and COS would be a resumption of service not seen in OKC since the early 00’s. Great Plains flew OKC-ABQ and OKC-COS (both operated as TUL-OKC-ABQ and TUL-OKC-COS). Western Pacific also flew OKC-COS in the mid to late 90’s. Both would be great adds and make it easier for quick mountain getaways. Easier airports to navigate than DEN.
LakeEffect 07-28-2021, 05:53 PM ABQ and COS would be a resumption of service not seen in OKC since the early 00’s. Great Plains flew OKC-ABQ and OKC-COS (both operated as TUL-OKC-ABQ and TUL-OKC-COS). Western Pacific also flew OKC-COS in the mid to late 90’s. Both would be great adds and make it easier for quick mountain getaways. Easier airports to navigate than DEN.
Did EasyJet (was that their name) try OKC-ABQ in the mid-2000s?
Edmond Hausfrau 07-28-2021, 08:04 PM Did EasyJet (was that their name) try OKC-ABQ in the mid-2000s?
Yes, it was EasyJet and I think it was one of those rare things where it was a brief layover in ABQ and then you could stay on the plane all the way to So. California. Do any flights do that now, let some people off and you can stay on if you are continuing? Seems like nowadays everyone has to deplane.
Bits_Of_Real_Panther 07-28-2021, 09:38 PM Sorry if wrong thread, but was booked 1st class Delta OKC to MSP, what perks are in 1st on a crappy cr 900? Delta website says " a" complimentary drink and snack.
Is that it?
BG918 07-28-2021, 09:55 PM Yes, it was EasyJet and I think it was one of those rare things where it was a brief layover in ABQ and then you could stay on the plane all the way to So. California. Do any flights do that now, let some people off and you can stay on if you are continuing? Seems like nowadays everyone has to deplane.
I flew Southwest DEN-BNA-RDU in 2019 and stayed on the plane in Nashville during the stop.
catch22 07-28-2021, 10:11 PM It was ExpressJet, not EasyJet (they are a European carrier)
https://i.postimg.cc/GtJLQRcH/Express-Jet-Route-Map.jpg
They are relaunching as an independent carrier. No indications yet as to what their network aspirations are, if any (might just focus on charter work).
no1cub17 07-29-2021, 12:30 AM Sorry if wrong thread, but was booked 1st class Delta OKC to MSP, what perks are in 1st on a crappy cr 900? Delta website says " a" complimentary drink and snack.
Is that it?
Pretty much.
brianinok 07-29-2021, 07:41 AM Pretty much.At least pre-Covid, Delta's minimum mileage to receive anything above a snack in first class was slightly longer than their longest route from OKC. AA and UA have routes to coastal cities that provided some type of meal service in first class, but I don't think anything has really been brought back to full service on anything except premium transcontinental routes and a few other select routes. Certainly not RJ routes yet, but I assume it will at somepoint-- at least I hope.
BoulderSooner 07-29-2021, 08:24 AM Sorry if wrong thread, but was booked 1st class Delta OKC to MSP, what perks are in 1st on a crappy cr 900? Delta website says " a" complimentary drink and snack.
Is that it?
lots of booze ... .
catch22 08-01-2021, 05:58 PM Spotter alert: Storms hitting DFW.
Looks like an Emirates 777 and a UPS MD-11 are the notable visitors today.
Downwind17 08-02-2021, 12:04 PM Spotter alert: Storms hitting DFW.
Looks like an Emirates 777 and a UPS MD-11 are the notable visitors today.
32 diverts on Sunday from DFW...can't ever remember that many in one afternoon. Controllers were running out of ramp space to park the planes.
HOT ROD 08-03-2021, 05:04 PM is WRWA the main diversion airport for DFW?
Seems like OKC should try to capitalize on that (not in a negative way), maybe having pax exit into the terminal and have something to do/eat?
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