That is great to hear CT, it can't come fast enough!

Locally, sounds like OKC health orgs are getting them in arms almost as fast as they get them. From Mayor Holt's twitter this morning (https://twitter.com/davidfholt/status/1352296592884305923):


I re-verified this with @okchealth after this conversation. 100 PERCENT of vaccine doses distributed to our local health department are put in arms within the week. Give us more doses!

Again, looks like the issue was systematic failure at the federal level, which given that the Trump administration never had an actual vaccine distribution plan (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/biden-covid-vaccination-trump/index.html) makes a sad bit of sense.

We have now moved up to 6th in the US for doses (1st doses) per 100k population. Good news.

Good to see our city and state are executing a vaccine plan with some success. Having a plan at the federal level should help immensely.

I guess we will cross that bridge when we get there. I imagine there will be less demand here in 5 months as we head to summer and case drop to near nothing. Those 75 million will probably only act in the late fall if they see cases start climbing again. Most people who in this category just don't want to be the first in line or its kind of pointless to say your going to get vaccinated when they have zero chance of getting their hands on a vaccine anytime soon.

I really think there is some exaggeration about how many people do not want it. I think they will have no problem filling up appointments from now until late summer. Then when it is approved for people under 18 then it is going to have another big spike of children getting it.

I think our first meaningful fall in numbers will happen this summer as well. I hope we can get the at risk vaccinated soon so the hospitalization and deaths start to go down.

The DPA is going to be activated which will increase supply. It should have been done months ago.

Hopefully, but I think we would had to plan on having other pharmaceutical's producing their competitors product early on for a true wartime like use of DPA. Or build Pfizer or Moderna bigger manufacturing lines.

I think our first meaningful fall in numbers will happen this summer as well. I hope we can get the at risk vaccinated soon so the hospitalization and deaths start to go down.

Yeah, that's the biggest goal. Sadly the vaccines came about 4 months too late. Of course, if Covid really got started before winter 2020, we wouldn't have been able to save any lives, but we probably would have locked down longer during that timeframe so there's that.....

I really think there is some exaggeration about how many people do not want it..

I hope you are right and i based my guess of 75 million people not wanting it for various reasons.
How many anti vaxers do we already have? How many people refuse to get the flu shot every year?

It might be more like 50 or 25 million, but there will still be a large chunk of society not getting the vaccine. And yes this won't be a problem for a while, but Biden has to try and convince as many people out of this group to get vaccinated.

Private developers release text alerts for COVID-19 vaccine appointments in Oklahoma (https://kfor.com/news/local/private-developers-release-text-alerts-for-covid-19-vaccine-appointments-in-oklahoma/)

I got my first dose today of the Moderna vaccine with the appointment for the second dose on Feb. 18th. I went to the OCCHD facility on NE 63rd and was greatly impressed. It was extremely well organized and went smoothly. Everyone working there was very friendly, very helpful, and very professional. While not perfect, Oklahoma seems to have a much better system than some other states that I keep hearing horror stories about.

I was lucky enough to get an appointment and the first shot last Thursday at Deaconess. When I was handed my inoculation paper, they had the return date as 2/11, and I was asked if I wanted the same time, and said yes, and 12:00 was added. Some friends got their shots in Duncan yesterday, and even though they got the inoculation papers, they seem to think they have to sign up again for the second shot. Are you automatically scheduled for the second shot at the same location, or do you have other options?

I got my shot in Enid and the same as your friend. Got a date of return but was told I still needed to make an appointment. I also got an email from the portal with a link.

I got my first shot in Ponca City on Jan 14. They gave me a card and it said 'RETURN' on Feb 16. But the lady told me I would have to make another appointment.

Well, I got Moderna, and Moderna has a 28 day requirement wait time, which means I should get it as soon as Feb 11...... So they extended it 5 extra days.

I have not yet gotten a signup confirmation email to signup for the second shot.

My company announced that they would like to implement mandatory vaccines. In a related note, the airport I work at is setting up a vaccine distribution point and all employers at the airport have submitted their work rosters to the denver health department who will organize that list and begin setting up appointments. This will be voluntary. Transportation workers have been moved into Colorado's Phase 1B. So I should hopefully be getting my initial vaccine in the coming weeks.

One problem is hesitancy - a lot of workers are totally outraged at this and are already up in arms and saying they will refuse it. That is what you get with a largely uneducated workforce.

My company announced that they would like to implement mandatory vaccines. In a related note, the airport I work at is setting up a vaccine distribution point and all employers at the airport have submitted their work rosters to the denver health department who will organize that list and begin setting up appointments. This will be voluntary. Transportation workers have been moved into Colorado's Phase 1B. So I should hopefully be getting my initial vaccine in the coming weeks.

One problem is hesitancy - a lot of workers are totally outraged at this and are already up in arms and saying they will refuse it. That it what you get with a largely uneducated workforce.

I understand people's hesitancy. It takes education about this vaccine and being understanding to people. I think it will be a while but people will come around. Oklahoma polls show 68% will take the vaccine of the adults who can. That needs to be higher but as we vaccinate people and people see their friends and family doing just fine they will jump on board. I think shaming people or calling them stupid gets you no where. Knowing where people are coming from can make a difference in this.

We have a long way to go but in the US today we vaccinated more people than daily infected. Feels nice to see that even for just one day. Thank you scientists and all the volunteers giving out this shot!

This may not apply to anyone posting here but there is a private event for specific OK county public school employees. I'm not sure of the specifics but registration is thru your district's HR department. Here is a brief description:

"Today, the Oklahoma City-County Health Department (OCCHD) notified us that they will host another special vaccination event for public school employees in our county that are age 65, as well as our Allied Health professionals (Speech Paths, OTs, PTs) and First Responders (campus security guards) on Monday, February 1st from 12pm to 7pm at Northeast Regional Health and Wellness Campus at 2600 NE 63rd Street, Oklahoma City, OK 73111. "

The e-mail wasn't completely clear to me on the 65 age limit, but allied health professionals and first responders don't need to be 65 to qualify. Myself and many of my <65 co-workers are already signed up.

Maybe someone here has friends or family who fall under these parameters and can get vaccinated quicker than they would waiting for the state program.

I was lucky enough to get an appointment and the first shot last Thursday at Deaconess. When I was handed my inoculation paper, they had the return date as 2/11, and I was asked if I wanted the same time, and said yes, and 12:00 was added. Some friends got their shots in Duncan yesterday, and even though they got the inoculation papers, they seem to think they have to sign up again for the second shot. Are you automatically scheduled for the second shot at the same location, or do you have other options?

I have friends who were vaccinated in various locations and received return appointments at that time. We went to Ada, and when I asked about how to schedule the second appointment, they said I needed to go back through the scheduling portal, just as I did to schedule the first appointment. I asked two different people and received the same answer. Seems to be varied, based on where you receive your first shot.

Thanks for the comments, I called the COVID hot line and asked, and was told that I was given a specific time and date to return and that was it. One of my friend’s said he had gotten a email the next day after his shot in Duncan with a link to schedule his next shot. So there seems to be some different procedures for different locations.

Thanks for the comments, I called the COVID hot line and asked, and was told that I was given a specific time and date to return and that was it. One of my friend’s said he had gotten a email the next day after his shot in Duncan with a link to schedule his next shot. So there seems to be some different procedures for different locations.

That is obviously the case. At the OCCHD there are people at tables with computers that you see before you leave. They set up a specific date and time to come back to the same location. They also send an email confirmation of that appointment and write it down on a card to take with you and bring back when you return.

I was lucky enough to get an appointment and the first shot last Thursday at Deaconess. When I was handed my inoculation paper, they had the return date as 2/11, and I was asked if I wanted the same time, and said yes, and 12:00 was added. Some friends got their shots in Duncan yesterday, and even though they got the inoculation papers, they seem to think they have to sign up again for the second shot. Are you automatically scheduled for the second shot at the same location, or do you have other options?

I've actually pretty consistently heard stories just like this from all over. The problem doesn't seem to be in administering the vaccine, but in distributing it.


We have a long way to go but in the US today we vaccinated more people than daily infected. Feels nice to see that even for just one day. Thank you scientists and all the volunteers giving out this shot!

^^^^
1000% We're basically in a race: vaccines vs. spread. We still have a ways to go, but it's great to see the progress being made.

Received our first vaccine in Ada, but would like to stay closer to Oklahoma County for our second. We were not automatically scheduled for our booster as some have been. I see several openings for "booster only" through the scheduling portal, but not sure if they are giving boosters for both vaccines or just one brand. Anyone know how to find out which brand is given in which county?

Received our first vaccine in Ada, but would like to stay closer to Oklahoma County for our second. We were not automatically scheduled for our booster as some have been. I see several openings for "booster only" through the scheduling portal, but not sure if they are giving boosters for both vaccines or just one brand. Anyone know how to find out which brand is given in which county?

This is just a guess, but I'd think Moderna is for the outlier areas due to the required cold temps. ? just a wag.

My daughter got hers in El Reno and they had both Pfizer and Moderna the day she got it. She said they had run out of Pfizer so she got Moderna.

In terms of non-portal vaccination in the metro area:

IMMY, Norman, (demand exceeding supply, will only vaccinate you if you do both shots with them)
Classen Urgent Care Clinic, Norman, only vaccinating Cleveland County residents

Does anyone know of any other places in the metro area?

I will say there does appear to be capacity statewide for both shots, if you are willing to travel. The fact that county health departments don't post available slots until one week prior to your recommended 2nd shot (due to unknown vaccine dose amounts) is causing many elderly folks uncertainty.

In terms of non-portal vaccination in the metro area:

IMMY, Norman, (demand exceeding supply, will only vaccinate you if you do both shots with them)
Classen Urgent Care Clinic, Norman, only vaccinating Cleveland County residents

Does anyone know of any other places in the metro area?

I will say there does appear to be capacity statewide for both shots, if you are willing to travel. The fact that county health departments don't post available slots until one week prior to your recommended 2nd shot (due to unknown vaccine dose amounts) is causing many elderly folks uncertainty.
I'm assuming this is still for people that fall into Phase 2?

I'm assuming this is still for people that fall into Phase 2?

I've seen an IMMY commercial that says they are following the phase/group plan.

Looks like we're getting a bit of a boost (17%) in our vaccine allocations starting next week thanks to the Biden administration

https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1354170402466111488

Looks like we're getting a bit of a boost (17%) in our vaccine allocations starting next week thanks to the Biden administration

https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1354170402466111488

I think the even bigger news along with that is having a 3-week notice on how much each state is getting. Looks like things are starting to ramp up. Everyone who wants a vaccine should have that option this summer.

Looks like all predictions in December were pretty accurate. Wild to think we went a year and half of a new virus to 300 million vaccine doses available.

I think the even bigger news along with that is having a 3-week notice on how much each state is getting. Looks like things are starting to ramp up. Everyone who wants a vaccine should have that option this summer.

Looks like all predictions in December were pretty accurate. Wild to think we went a year and half of a new virus to 300 million vaccine doses available.

To be fair, they didn't start from scratch, research on MERS and SARS (and Ebola) vaccines had been ongoing for years and they built on that, along with immense amounts of funding (and incentive because COVID-19 ended up being more contagious and widespread than any of those).

To be fair, they didn't start from scratch, research on MERS and SARS (and Ebola) vaccines had been ongoing for years and they built on that, along with immense amounts of funding (and incentive because COVID-19 ended up being more contagious and widespread than any of those).

While this is accurate, its a hell of an accomplishment to get a vaccine to market in the time they did. These things can often times take years and they did it in a fraction of that time.

I got my first shot in Ponca City on Jan 14. They gave me a card and it said 'RETURN' on Feb 16. But the lady told me I would have to make another appointment.

Well, I got Moderna, and Moderna has a 28 day requirement wait time, which means I should get it as soon as Feb 11...... So they extended it 5 extra days.

I have not yet gotten a signup confirmation email to signup for the second shot.

Follow up - I called 211 Monday. Told the lady my situation and she registered me while on the phone. Said for a short time the booster shot emails were not going out. So the next day I found my booster registering email in the spam folder due to sign up link. So I went into the link and everything is fine.

So if you have not received an email to register for a shot when you think you should have you might want to give them a call. I had less than 3 minutes wait time for them to answer.

This rollout seems to continue to be a cluster. My dad got to his 3:15 appt at the Cowboy Hall of Fame at 2:45, and is still an hour out from getting his shot. Even though they had him set an appointment, they're apparently treating it as first come first serve with elderly waiting outside in this freezing weather.

This rollout seems to continue to be a cluster. My dad got to his 3:15 appt at the Cowboy Hall of Fame at 2:45, and is still an hour out from getting his shot. Even though they had him set an appointment, they're apparently treating it as first come first serve with elderly waiting outside in this freezing weather.

They had a particular issue at that location this morning that caused delays. It seems some volunteers/staff could not make it as planned and they were struggling to get help to process people. I think, overall, they've been doing a good job getting people in and out efficiently, but we're going to run into situations like this. I think a lot of people aren't aware many of these PODS depend on volunteers from the MRC to operate efficiently and when there is an unexpected or unplanned shortage of volunteers, it's going to cause logistical issues.

They had a particular issue at that location this morning that caused delays. It seems some volunteers/staff could not make it as planned and they were struggling to get help to process people. I think, overall, they've been doing a good job getting people in and out efficiently, but we're going to run into situations like this. I think a lot of people aren't aware many of these PODS depend on volunteers from the MRC to operate efficiently and when there is an unexpected or unplanned shortage of volunteers, it's going to cause logistical issues.

To me, it's just completely baffling that the we're (OK, and maybe the USA in general) is relying on volunteers to vaccinate against the worst pandemic in 100+ years. Glad they're doing it, but I honestly think we shouldn't have to use volunteers, but then again there are tons of other things that volunteers do that companies won't pay for, yay capitalism. Do other countries rely (as much) on volunteers to give vaccines? I tried looking it up and couldn't really find any good info...

Just got my vaccine scheduled for 2/2. What a relief. Hopefully we can be done with this mess soon.

This rollout seems to continue to be a cluster. My dad got to his 3:15 appt at the Cowboy Hall of Fame at 2:45, and is still an hour out from getting his shot. Even though they had him set an appointment, they're apparently treating it as first come first serve with elderly waiting outside in this freezing weather.

There was a segment on the KFOR news tonight about that location. Someone said in an interview that the main problem was that a large number of people were showing up well before their appointment and getting in line. It would be very difficult to control something like that without cooperation from the people who show up too early. That doesn't mean there might not be other issues though.

There was a segment on the KFOR news tonight about that location. Someone said in an interview that the main problem was that a large number of people were showing up well before their appointment and getting in line. It would be very difficult to control something like that without cooperation from the people who show up too early. That doesn't mean there might not be other issues though.

This is funny to me because when my 85-year-old dad had his shot a couple of weeks ago they sent him an email asking that people should not show up early, to come at your exact time. He was totally anxious over these instructions. For a guy who used to get to the airport three hours early this caused him great stress! I guess it's an old people thing!

Well now we know why the OSDH froze giving doses to CVS and Walgreens https://oklahomawatch.org/2021/01/28/arms-race-why-62000-doses-of-covid-vaccine-sit-frozen-in-oklahoma/

62k doses just sitting in freezers.

This is funny to me because when my 85-year-old dad had his shot a couple of weeks ago they sent him an email asking that people should not show up early, to come at your exact time. He was totally anxious over these instructions. For a guy who used to get to the airport three hours early this caused him great stress! I guess it's an old people thing!

I don't think it's an "old people thing". I am 77 and am always on time, not early or late, for appointments. I think it has more to do with the way you are raised. I'm number 5 on our list at Silver Elms in Edmond and they said be there at 9:05 and if I'm a minute or two early I would be surprised. I do guarantee that I won't be late.
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Johnson & Johnson’s single-shot, easy to store vaccine is 58-70% effective against symptoms, but really importantly it is 100% effective against death and hospitalization, even against the new strains.

The vaccines, across the board, are very, *very* good.

I'm really looking forward to getting mine. I just have to get mentally prepared that there could be a few hours of COVID like symptoms and that it's OK.

A friend of mine and her husband got their booster dose of Pfizer 2 days ago. She told me that after 24 hours neither one of them had any adverse effects. Other than a little bit of soreness in the arm.

WH Coronavirus team said Oklahoma was one of 8 states that has gotten to 10% vaccinated and applauded them. Go oklahoma!

WH Coronavirus team said Oklahoma was one of 8 states that has gotten to 10% vaccinated and applauded them. Go oklahoma!
Great news!

I'm really looking forward to getting mine. I just have to get mentally prepared that there could be a few hours of COVID like symptoms and that it's OK.

Getting our second next week. First is nothing, maybe a slightly sore arm for 24 hours. Second seems to be the one that gets some folks. Have had friends reactions range from sore arm only to fever, body aches, shaking, and extremely tired for 28 hours. It all beats COVID if you're a high risk patient like myself, bring them on!

Getting our second next week. First is nothing, maybe a slightly sore arm for 24 hours. Second seems to be the one that gets some folks. Have had friends reactions range from sore arm only to fever, body aches, shaking, and extremely tired for 28 hours. It all beats COVID if you're a high risk patient like myself, bring them on!I'm scared of where my mind is going to go if I have any symptoms from the shot. On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being completely asymptomatic to 10 being dead. The first time I had the virus was a 2 with minor after effects. Round 2 was a 6 with much worse after effects. The most severe being tachycardia. My sitting on the couch heart rate used to be in the 70s. Now it's around 90 and a trip to the kitchen or bathroom can get it in the 120s. I'm really scared that Round 3 would be a 9 or 10 and I'm afraid any symptoms will send my imagination to "Oh #%+* I've got it again". I already probably need counseling I'm so paranoid. I check my temperature every hour. Blood pressure, pulse and blood oxygen more often than that.

but really importantly it is 100% effective against death and hospitalization, even against the new strains.


We have to be careful reading this statement, because their vaccine is 85% effective against severe disease. No one died in their trial as of day 28. As far as the new South African variant, it was only 57% efficacious against moderate to severe covid infection.

I really wish they would’ve included the UK as part of their trial, as I feel that is the new variant that we should be most concerned about at this moment.

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We have to be careful reading this statement, because their vaccine is 85% effective against severe disease. No one died in their trial as of day 28. As far as the new South African variant, it was only 57% efficacious against moderate to severe covid infection.

I really wish they would’ve included the UK as part of their trial, as that is the new variant that we should be most concerned about at this moment.

No, the South African and Brazilian variants are more concerning. Pfizer, Moderna and Novavax all showed lower (but still really good!) effectiveness against the South African strain than the British strain. The British strain’s biggest issue is it’s highly contagious. The South African strain is worrying because it has the highest potential for immune escape.

No, the South African and Brazilian variants are more concerning. Pfizer, Moderna and Novavax all showed lower (but still really good!) effectiveness against the South African strain than the British strain. The British strain’s biggest issue is it’s highly contagious. The South African strain is worrying because it has the highest potential for immune escape.

Yeah, I don't know enough about all the variants to speak on them. My main point was to be careful in taking your J&J statement at face value. There's more to the efficacy results than it being "100% effective against death and hospitalization."

Yeah, I don't know enough about all the variants to speak on them. My main point was to be careful in taking your J&J statement at face value. There's more to the efficacy results than it being "100% effective against death and hospitalization."

What I want in a vaccine is something that prevents me from getting intubated or killed as a result of this thing. The J&J vaccine is 100% effective at that. Everything else is just gravy.

What I want in a vaccine is something that prevents me from getting intubated or killed as a result of this thing. The J&J vaccine is 100% effective at that. Everything else is just gravy.

But can you pick which vaccine you get?

But can you pick which vaccine you get?
Not yet.

Not yet.

That's what I thought, thanks. So it's kinda pointless (maybe not pointless, but not worth my spending any time on) to wonder which one's better since you can't choose.

That's what I thought, thanks. So it's kinda pointless (maybe not pointless, but not worth my spending any time on) to wonder which one's better since you can't choose.
Yep. As many health experts have said, the best shot for you now is the one you can get.

What I want in a vaccine is something that prevents me from getting intubated or killed as a result of this thing. The J&J vaccine is 100% effective at that. Everything else is just gravy.

Are you a shareholder of J&J??? Because again, you're spinning their results on this forum just like they are spinning it in the news. Let's be honest about it. Their one shot efficacy results were extremely underwhelming. Overall efficacy of 66%, compared to 95% for Pfizer and Moderna and 96% for Novavax, who just happened to release data on Thursday as well. Possible higher efficacy with a 2nd jab is a possibility. So because they realized how poor the results were. To be clear, their vaccine is NOT 100% guaranteed to prevent death. No one died in their trial is what actually happened. Thank god, lol. I don't know if it was what you were trying to do, but I am so tired of the spread of disinformation on the internet.

Are you a shareholder of J&J??? Because again, you're spinning their results on this forum just like they are spinning it in the news. Let's be honest about it. Their one shot efficacy results were extremely underwhelming. Overall efficacy of 66%, compared to 95% for Pfizer and Moderna and 96% for Novavax, who just happened to release data on Thursday as well. Possible higher efficacy with a 2nd jab is a possibility. So because they realized how poor the results were. To be clear, their vaccine is NOT 100% guaranteed to prevent death. No one died in their trial is what actually happened. Thank god, lol. I don't know if it was what you were trying to do, but I am so tired of the spread of disinformation on the internet.

Have you sold J and J stock short?

Fauci..."What it did do very well is prevent hospitalizations, severe disease and death"

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/fauci-says-johnson-johnson-covid-vaccine-effective-in-preventing-severe-disease-100243013823

It's fantastic we have more options. We need vaccinations in arms around the world ASAP.

Are you a shareholder of J&J??? Because again, you're spinning their results on this forum just like they are spinning it in the news. Let's be honest about it. Their one shot efficacy results were extremely underwhelming. Overall efficacy of 66%, compared to 95% for Pfizer and Moderna and 96% for Novavax, who just happened to release data on Thursday as well. Possible higher efficacy with a 2nd jab is a possibility. So because they realized how poor the results were. To be clear, their vaccine is NOT 100% guaranteed to prevent death. No one died in their trial is what actually happened. Thank god, lol. I don't know if it was what you were trying to do, but I am so tired of the spread of disinformation on the internet.

Whoa honey, calm down. All I said is that the JNJ vaccine is more than adequate in preventing the worst outcomes of COVID. If you have any data indicating otherwise I would genuinely like to see it because I definitely do not want to help spread misinformation. However there is nothing I have seen that contradicts anything I said.

It may well be that if Pfizer and Moderna conducted their Phase III trials in the same timeframe as NovaVax and JNJ, they would come up with similar efficacy results. Reading between the lines, it seems fairly likely that we're going to need an updated vaccine/booster shot within the next year to deal with the new variants given that the South African and Brazilian variants are already causing a notable decrease in efficacy and there will certainly be more variants on the way given how viruses evolve. Fortunately there are already multiple companies beginning work on this, and the approval process for these should be much quicker than the original vaccines - more akin to the approval process that takes place for the yearly tweaks to the flu shot. Even better, all of the vaccines still seem to be very good at preventing severe disease and death across the board - while they may not be as good at preventing infection from some of the variants, it appears that most infections are of minor severity. Put it all together and while the variants are concerning and may delay an ultimate return to a true, pre-COVID sense of normalcy, I'd still be stunned if things aren't much, much better by this summer or fall. More than anything else at this point I'm just hoping to see positive developments in terms of worldwide vaccine equity, both because it's a morally just policy, and also because without it I don't see how we break the cycle we're currently in of new variants that risk immune escape.

Yeah, I don't know enough about all the variants to speak on them. My main point was to be careful in taking your J&J statement at face value. There's more to the efficacy results than it being "100% effective against death and hospitalization."

If the Johnson & Johnson vaccine was the first one we'd got it still would have been a medical miracle. Yes, everyone here is correct to first and foremost point out that their vaccine very likely staves off the worst results—serious illness and death. The public has been caught up in some of the details and thus underselling the vaccines (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/18/briefing/donald-trump-pardon-phil-spector-coronavirus-deaths.html). Having said that, yes, there are important details that we should care about. But, as others have said, the best vaccine right now is one you can get. I would gladly take the J&J vaccine once it's approved.