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jompster 03-26-2021, 01:30 PM I had a similar experience to Pete's, but I had the Pfizer jab at 5:45 on Wednesday. All day Thursday had chills and aches, but then my skin got tingly for a few hours. Left the office early and a fever erupted by 5:00. It broke around 7:30 and then I just dripped sweat profusely. Went to bed at 9:00 and woke up at 7:00 and felt like a million bucks this morning.
Thomas Vu 03-26-2021, 04:43 PM Got an email late last night that I could schedule. Driving to mustang on Monday morning.
OKCbyTRANSFER 03-26-2021, 06:32 PM I received my 2nd Moderna shot this morning at 9. Worked all day, but could slowly feel myself getting tired. Now 6:30 and I'm exhausted, feel like I haven't slept in days. I felt the same the day after my 1st shot (which was afternoon). Off to bed! Glad to get it though, I must say.
FighttheGoodFight 03-27-2021, 10:23 AM Looks like 11 million J&J hitting the US next week. I expect to see a lot of those appointments pop up now.
Bill Robertson 03-27-2021, 11:14 AM Looks like 11 million J&J hitting the US next week. I expect to see a lot of those appointments pop up now.
Excellent. I know of a number of people that have been holding out for the one and done option.
OkiePoke 03-28-2021, 10:07 AM 2nd Pfizer shot scheduled for Wednesday morning. I've very excited to be fully vaccinated in 2 weeks. I did have Covid, so I'm assuming I still have antibodies; it's a huge relief to see friends and other vulnerable people soon.
soonerguru 03-28-2021, 03:47 PM https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-reports-89-covid-19-cases-in-vaccinated-individuals/600038033/
Interesting article. If you read the whole thing, disease experts believe the people who got CV-19 after full vaccination were given tainted shots.
Bill Robertson 03-28-2021, 05:55 PM Interesting article. If you read the whole thing, disease experts believe the people who got CV-19 after full vaccination were given tainted shots.
And they were still on what we labeled phase 1 or maybe early phase 2 at the time of the article. Glad I'm not there.
kukblue1 03-28-2021, 07:36 PM Interesting article. If you read the whole thing, disease experts believe the people who got CV-19 after full vaccination were given tainted shots.
From the article I posted "Out of caution, the state is reviewing the cases to see if they have anything in common, Ehresmann said. A cluster of cases vaccinated at the same site could suggest a handling problem with the vaccine, or that a lot was tainted"
COULD PEOPLE COULD. They are checking on cases because if there are a bunch of people that might of been vaccinated at the same site it COULD suggest a lot was tainted.
Bill Robertson 03-28-2021, 08:07 PM From the article I posted "Out of caution, the state is reviewing the cases to see if they have anything in common, Ehresmann said. A cluster of cases vaccinated at the same site could suggest a handling problem with the vaccine, or that a lot was tainted"
COULD PEOPLE COULD. They are checking on cases because if there are a bunch of people that might of been vaccinated at the same site it COULD suggest a lot was tainted.Even if the vaccine was fine the percentage is way, way under the advertised efficacy rate.
soonerguru 03-29-2021, 08:45 AM Even if the vaccine was fine the percentage is way, way under the advertised efficacy rate.
Exactly. One case out of 9,000 are pretty great odds.
Bill Robertson 03-29-2021, 10:04 AM Exactly. One case out of 9,000 are pretty great odds.Yes.
89 breakthrough cases out of 800,000 "fully vaccinated" people is a .01% infection rate. From an advertised 90 to 95% efficacy rate. I call that pretty good.
PoliSciGuy 03-29-2021, 10:39 AM Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are 90% effective at limiting even infection from COVID. They're 80% effective after just one shot. These things are crazy good.
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1376552520215052293
kukblue1 03-29-2021, 11:13 AM https://www.statnews.com/2021/03/29/real-world-study-by-cdc-shows-pfizer-and-moderna-vaccines-were-90-effective/
dankrutka 03-29-2021, 12:26 PM Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are 90% effective at limiting even infection from COVID. They're 80% effective after just one shot. These things are crazy good.
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1376552520215052293
If I am reading this right, the two big implications here are:
1. You are pretty much "vaccinated" two weeks after your first shot, right? I had not seen a lot of clarity on this previously. You still need to get your second shot as the study only measured the time between shots, not beyond that. And, of course, keep being responsible by wearing a mask even if just as an important social signal to others.
2. The early data are holding up... these vaccines are incredibly effective. Great news!
Is that about right?
FighttheGoodFight 03-29-2021, 01:30 PM If I am reading this right, the two big implications here are:
1. You are pretty much "vaccinated" two weeks after your first shot, right? I had not seen a lot of clarity on this previously. You still need to get your second shot as the study only measured the time between shots, not beyond that. And, of course, keep being responsible by wearing a mask even if just as an important social signal to others.
2. The early data are holding up... these vaccines are incredibly effective. Great news!
Is that about right?
Pretty much. Making the UK plan of single dose and waiting 42 days for the second a good plan for getting this under control quick. Everyone still should get the second dose but with supply constraints at the beginning they might have had a good plan there.
OKC Guide 03-29-2021, 01:42 PM I had my 2nd Moderna Saturday morning at Integris. Incredibly well-organized just like my first experience. I woke up at 6 a.m. on Sunday with a slight headache and shivering uncontrollably, which is not like me at all. I had to use a couple of extra blankets to warm up but never had a fever. That was pretty much it for me. I maybe felt a tad rundown on Sunday, but we had been on a college campus walking around all day on Saturday so it certainly could have been that. I feel great today.
David 03-29-2021, 01:45 PM Had my second shot at Integris on Saturday as well, no serious reactions so far other than a sore arm and a light achy feeling that evening that went away with some ibuprofen.
jccouger 03-29-2021, 01:50 PM I thought you were supposed to avoid painkillers after the vaccine? Don't want to spread misinformation but I thought it kind of deminished its efficacy?
FighttheGoodFight 03-29-2021, 01:52 PM I thought you were supposed to avoid painkillers after the vaccine? Don't want to spread misinformation but I thought it kind of deminished its efficacy?
As I understand it is not recommended to take them *before* the vaccination. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect/after.html
David 03-29-2021, 02:23 PM Yeah, that is what I found when I googled about it, I was similarly worried before I checked.
FighttheGoodFight 03-29-2021, 02:25 PM Press conference from the Governor today. He will be getting the J&J on camera today. Happy to see that and hopefully we can get more people encouraged to get the poke.
PoliSciGuy 03-29-2021, 02:31 PM By far the most effective thing he's done to deal with the COVID crisis
kukblue1 03-29-2021, 03:41 PM Still over 4,000 shots open at Immy labs fairground event. I really hope they all get filled. Surly there still have to be over 4,000 in the Metro that want the vaccine?
DoctorTaco 03-29-2021, 03:44 PM Still over 4,000 shots open at Immy labs fairground event. I really hope they all get filled. Surly there still have to be over 4,000 in the Metro that want the vaccine?
I think they may have maxed out on the population who is willing to check 4+ portals (State, VaxOKC, Walmart, Immylabs, Mercy, Tribes, Twitter, Facebook, etc.) to find a vaccine. People forget what a pain in the ass that is. Just because people aren't willing/tech savvy enough for this doesn't mean they don't want a vaccine. It just means it has GOT to become easier for them.
FighttheGoodFight 03-29-2021, 03:52 PM I'd also say people are just waiting until they can pull up to their local Walmart and get it and leave. Some people will not go out of their way to get it at all. I think there is still good demand.
I think they may have maxed out on the population who is willing to check 4+ portals (State, VaxOKC, Walmart, Immylabs, Mercy, Tribes, Twitter, Facebook, etc.) to find a vaccine. People forget what a pain in the ass that is. Just because people aren't willing/tech savvy enough for this doesn't mean they don't want a vaccine. It just means it has GOT to become easier for them.
Yes, before long it will be like getting a flu shot which for me has always been at Sam's picking up a prescription and them asking me if I wanted it for free then and there. That process couldn't be easier taking literally 5 minutes with no prior planning.
Also, the single-dose J&J vax will soon be much more available and easy to obtain.
kukblue1 03-29-2021, 05:22 PM https://kfor.com/news/coronavirus/lucky-star-casino-hosting-covid-19-vaccine-clinic-offering-25-in-free-play/ Now were talking.
dankrutka 03-29-2021, 06:18 PM https://kfor.com/news/coronavirus/lucky-star-casino-hosting-covid-19-vaccine-clinic-offering-25-in-free-play/ Now were talking.
Social scientists actually caution against offering incentives to get something like a vaccine. It can convey the perception to some that if you're being given a reward that there must be a downside. Not saying it's necessarily a bad idea, but businesses should be careful about how they go about it.
Bill Robertson 03-29-2021, 08:31 PM 2nd Pfizer shot scheduled for Wednesday morning. I've very excited to be fully vaccinated in 2 weeks. I did have Covid, so I'm assuming I still have antibodies; it's a huge relief to see friends and other vulnerable people soon. I hope your 2nd goes as uneventful as mine did. But since you also had COVID pre- vaccination I have questions. Did you have after-effects. And if so did they change after the first shot. Reason being that I'm on a couple large forums that have people who believe the after symptoms lessened after the first shot. Some of mine definitely have. But others, like brain fog, are as bad as ever. Just a for instance. I have a very routine every morning ritual of things I do and have done for years to get ready for work. Since last April I'm doing good to do half of them. I usually realize the things I forgot sometime in the morning. Yeah' I'm no spring chicken but I was mentally fine prior to April last year.
DoctorTaco 03-30-2021, 09:01 AM Social scientists actually caution against offering incentives to get something like a vaccine. It can convey the perception to some that if you're being given a reward that there must be a downside. Not saying it's necessarily a bad idea, but businesses should be careful about how they go about it.
Those folks are gonna lose way more than $25 to the casino on average if they stick around to play! I think this is clearly just a marketing thing more than a public health move. But to your point I agree these things are tricky from an unintended consequence/mixed signals kind of thing. Relatedly, for a lot of prescriptions it is totally feasible and simpler for Medicare/insurance companies to simply pay for all of it, but they've found that making patients $1 for their meds results in more people taking them. In case you ever wondered, "why bother charging me $1.37 for 90 days of blood pressure meds?" this is why.
Thomas Vu 03-30-2021, 09:18 AM Really streamlined operation in Mustang. Just had a sore arm yesterday, and maybe still lingering today? All in all still feel slightly remorseful that I'm getting in cause of the amount of people turning it down though.
Help the people who want it /shrug
kukblue1 03-31-2021, 10:26 AM Still tons of shots open at immy labs. 3,600 when I checked this morning. Couple mornings ago it was around 4,400 so people are signing up. However that still seem a lot. Is it time to start giving it to doctors offices? How would they store it though?
FighttheGoodFight 03-31-2021, 11:07 AM Still tons of shots open at immy labs. 3,600 when I checked this morning. Couple mornings ago it was around 4,400 so people are signing up. However that still seem a lot. Is it time to start giving it to doctors offices? How would they store it though?
I'm sure most doctor's offices would get the J&J
Bunty 03-31-2021, 11:26 AM With an online appointment that took two days, I got my first Pfizer shot Tues. morning at the Expo Center, Payne County Fairgrounds, east of Stillwater. No real wait, even though I was there 5 minutes early. In and out in little more than 20 minutes. So quite well streamlined. It's been no worse than getting a flu shot, or the after effects, now with shot site sore. The only waiting was expected where they have you go into a large room after the vaccination to sit with a bunch of other people spaced 6 ft. apart to wait 15 minutes for possible bad side effects. Nobody had any while I was there. The only strange part is how few appointments ever come up for Stillwater on the vaccines-alert page. Smaller towns tend to have considerably more available.
After my 2nd Pfizer shot and when the local city mask ordinance expires on May 23, I look forward to quit wearing a mask in stores and getting back to the good old normal days. One of my favorite local restaurants, Mexico Joe's, put salt and pepper shakers back on the tables, so that is a good sign that restaurants are getting anxious to get back to normal.
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I was in Stillwater last Saturday and by 11AM there was a line out the door of Eskimo Joe's.
As a side note, my restaurant-owning friends all report banner business.
mkjeeves 03-31-2021, 11:46 AM State Health Department Facebook page:
ATTN: Unable to register online for a COVID-19 vaccine appointment? TODAY's vaccine event run by IMMYLabs, INTEGRIS and OSDH at the OKC Fairground's Bennett Event Center is offering walk-up assistance with on-site translators for booking same day appointments between 8 a.m. and 3 p.m. Learn more: portal.immylabs.com/vaccine
DowntownMan 03-31-2021, 11:58 AM ^
I was in Stillwater last Saturday and by 11AM there was a line out the door of Eskimo Joe's.
As a side note, my restaurant-owning friends all report banner business.
That’s really good signs. One people are comfortable getting out again. And two- if people are getting out and our numbers continue to drop that’s really good
kukblue1 03-31-2021, 04:34 PM https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/washington-breakthrough-vaccine-cases/281-9278cb21-6b14-4746-a2b7-91725282c24b I'll take those numbers. 8 hospitalizations out of 1.2 million people.
soonerguru 03-31-2021, 04:49 PM In two weeks, my wife will be a week past her second Moderna shot. I'm planning a nice restaurant date for the third week of April to celebrate.
Bill Robertson 03-31-2021, 05:05 PM In two weeks, my wife will be a week past her second Moderna shot. I'm planning a nice restaurant date for the third week of April to celebrate.My birthday is April 23. The dinner I started a thread about may be that night. We'll both be just over a month past shot #2.
ctchandler 03-31-2021, 08:17 PM The independent living center (old folks home) that I live in placed condiments on the dining room tables for the first time in over a year. Butter, jelly, salt and pepper, and coffee creamers. We're getting there, slowly but surely.
C. T.
Richard at Remax 04-01-2021, 08:55 AM Got my 2nd pfizer shot yesterday at 830 am. 24 hours later all I have is a sore arm. I hope this doesn't jinx it :D
DowntownMan 04-01-2021, 10:40 AM Got my 2nd pfizer shot yesterday at 830 am. 24 hours later all I have is a sore arm. I hope this doesn't jinx it :D
My arm is less sore this time than the 1st shot. And no other symptoms as well with Pfizer
TheTravellers 04-01-2021, 10:51 AM Two interesting pieces of news.
Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Effective Up To 6 Months Later, Study Finds (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pfizer-covid-vaccine-effective-6-months_n_6065d5a5c5b623e39bdf60c7) (thought it was supposed to be a year, which they may eventually find out it is, though)
Factory Mix-Up Ruins Up to 15 Million Vaccine Doses From Johnson & Johnson (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/31/us/politics/johnson-johnson-coronavirus-vaccine.html)
dankrutka 04-01-2021, 11:23 AM Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Effective Up To 6 Months Later, Study Finds (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pfizer-covid-vaccine-effective-6-months_n_6065d5a5c5b623e39bdf60c7) (thought it was supposed to be a year, which they may eventually find out it is, though)
Wow. This is a really crappy write up with almost no information. Maybe don't link to HuffPost for this stuff. The study only has 6 months of data so all it is saying is that they can verify that the vaccine is effective at 6 months. As more data comes in, they can verify that it lasts longer. There is really no reason to think the vaccine would only last 6 months.
TheTravellers 04-01-2021, 11:37 AM Wow. This is a really crappy write up with almost no information. Maybe don't link to HuffPost for this stuff. The study only has 6 months of data so all it is saying is that they can verify that the vaccine is effective at 6 months. As more data comes in, they can verify that it lasts longer. There is really no reason to think the vaccine would only last 6 months.
Yeah, I know, it was just the first article I ran across, verified it with other articles, but that's about all the other articles say too. Huffpost generally links to source articles in their articles, not sure why this one was just a stub). And yes, my comment allowed that we need more time to see if it lasts a year, we just haven't hit that yet). Still interesting.
SEMIweather 04-01-2021, 10:35 PM Got my second Pfizer dose yesterday morning. Yesterday I just had a sore arm, today I've had general dull body aches, though the arm soreness is better. No fever at any point, and the aches never got to a point where I felt the need to take any Ibuprofen. All in all, really not too bad, though definitely more noticeable than my first dose. I anticipate that the body aches will go away with a night of sleep.
Richard at Remax 04-02-2021, 09:37 AM Got my 2nd pfizer shot yesterday at 830 am. 24 hours later all I have is a sore arm. I hope this doesn't jinx it :D
Def spoke too soon. Around noon yesterday I got overwhelmingly tired and fatigued. Went home and took a 5 hour nap. Woke up feeling like a million bucks.
OkiePoke 04-02-2021, 10:29 AM It makes me happy so many people are getting vaccinated. What a good sign.
It took about 12 hours after my 2nd Pfizer to start feeling tired. I went to sleep but overnight I had all the symptoms, aches, headache, fever/chills, which made sleeping difficult. I was tired the following day. I woke up this morning feeling pretty great, maybe just a little tired.
FighttheGoodFight 04-02-2021, 01:41 PM 42% of Oklahoma adults have at least one shot. 57% of seniors are fully vaccinated.
Bill Robertson 04-02-2021, 01:55 PM 42% of Oklahoma adults have at least one shot. 57% of seniors are fully vaccinated.
I wonder what the percentage vaccinated of the 6 or so surrounding states are. I know I could spend the time to look but I'm not that inclined. Reason being is that OK and the surrounding states all have 7 or 14 day average new cases flat or dropping when about 25 of 50 states are rising. A handful rising at a scary rate.
SouthOfTheVillage 04-02-2021, 02:52 PM Ended up using some PJ time to get the Moderna.
Wanted the J&J, of course.
Will be interesting to see the incentives offered to the stragglers.
kukblue1 04-02-2021, 06:57 PM I have talked to several people that I used to work with in the fast food industry and non of them have gotten vaccinated yet. Some say they never will while a few are waiting for the J&J cause it's one shot.
Bunty 04-03-2021, 10:45 PM OSU is opening a Johnson & Johnson vaccine clinic to the public at Gallagher-Iba Arena beginning April 8: https://www.stwnewspress.com/covid-19/osu-is-opening-a-johnson-johnson-vaccine-clinic-to-the-public/article_d6d87298-94b4-11eb-b45b-afb55510fd5d.html
soonerguru 04-04-2021, 10:02 PM Ended up using some PJ time to get the Moderna.
Wanted the J&J, of course.
Will be interesting to see the incentives offered to the stragglers.
Thank you.
Bunty 04-06-2021, 10:03 AM I wonder why Stillwater in vaccine alerts always has so few appointments available while considerably smaller towns, such as Sayre and Holdenville have well into the double digits.
FighttheGoodFight 04-06-2021, 10:17 AM I wonder why Stillwater in vaccine alerts always has so few appointments available while considerably smaller towns, such as Sayre and Holdenville have well into the double digits.
Offered through the university health system, so they don't show up there?
TheTravellers 04-06-2021, 11:14 AM I wonder what the percentage vaccinated of the 6 or so surrounding states are. I know I could spend the time to look but I'm not that inclined. Reason being is that OK and the surrounding states all have 7 or 14 day average new cases flat or dropping when about 25 of 50 states are rising. A handful rising at a scary rate.
And speaking of scary, this is probably related and unsettling...
Infectious Disease Expert Explains Why Next COVID-19 Wave In U.S. Is Inevitable (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michael-osterholm-inevitable-new-wave-coronavirus_n_606c1818c5b6c00165c52ac1)
Bill Robertson 04-06-2021, 11:33 AM And speaking of scary, this is probably related and unsettling...
Infectious Disease Expert Explains Why Next COVID-19 Wave In U.S. Is Inevitable (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michael-osterholm-inevitable-new-wave-coronavirus_n_606c1818c5b6c00165c52ac1)Hopefully in a few weeks we can look back at this prediction as not so accurate. Any statement like this that also raises the party line flag gets a question mark from me.
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