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soonerguru
03-16-2021, 01:27 PM
Today, well tomorrow, will be 2 weeks after my second dose. I am out celebrating tonight at a bar/restaurant. Not out on a bender, but it is nice to finally go out even though things aren’t quite the same. I feel pretty confident at this point. 96% is good, especially paired with an 8% ABV beer from the tap.

Enjoy your trip to Chicago. I love that city. Has been a few years since I have been out that way.

Congratulations! And well deserved.

Bill Robertson
03-16-2021, 02:09 PM
Today, well tomorrow, will be 2 weeks after my second dose. I am out celebrating tonight at a bar/restaurant. Not out on a bender, but it is nice to finally go out even though things aren’t quite the same. I feel pretty confident at this point. 96% is good, especially paired with an 8% ABV beer from the tap.

Enjoy your trip to Chicago. I love that city. Has been a few years since I have been out that way.
Good for you! I await the day. It will be at least April 8. My b-day is April 23 and I might see what things look like then. I fell confident that I'll be covered on the 8th but there will be this little voice saying I don't want this crap again.

Bunty
03-16-2021, 03:04 PM
Just seems like they've sorta failed with OKC. JoeBob in some town that doesn't even have one traffic light can probably drive 5 miles and not wait in a line and get his shot, yet there are no appts available in OKC. They should've known the demand in OKC would be super-high and allowed for it, but they haven't.

Have you tried this site? It will also show non-chain drug stores having them and availability of all three vaccines. https://vaccinefinder.org/search/ Don't know how well updated the info is kept.

dankrutka
03-16-2021, 04:02 PM
I had a client tell me last week that he will not get the vaccine because doing so will play into Bill Gates' hands. He is convinced the shots contain some sort of tracking device. It's very difficult in that situation not to lose your **** laughing, but it is sad that people actually believe this nonsense. It's a borderline mental health issue.

If we're going to convince people, especially those so prone to conspiracy theories, then the best thing you can do is ask questions when someone expresses doubt or misinformation, "how would a vaccine tracker even work?" Recognize their concerns, "I get that a new vaccine can sound scary." Share your story, "I've really felt relieved since getting a shot." And, share the social benefits, "It was important to me to get the vaccine to protect those who are most vulnerable."

dankrutka
03-16-2021, 04:05 PM
I feel pretty confident at this point. 96% is good, especially paired with an 8% ABV beer from the tap.

Enjoy your celebration! We all deserve to celebrate vaccinations and (hopefully) nearing end of this pandemic. Better yet, you're better than 96% protected! You're near 100% protected against hospitalization and death and 96% less likely than you would have been to even get a mild case (which is minuscule).

TheTravellers
03-16-2021, 04:08 PM
Have you tried this site? It will also show non-chain drug stores having them and availability of all three vaccines. https://vaccinefinder.org/search/ Don't know how well updated the info is kept.

Have not tried it, looks promising, thanks.

dankrutka
03-16-2021, 05:36 PM
Plenty of Vaccines, but Not Enough Arms: A Warning Sign in Cherokee Nation (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/16/us/vaccines-covid-cherokee-native-americans.html?campaign_id=154&emc=edit_cb_20210316&instance_id=28133&nl=coronavirus-briefing&regi_id=79175314&segment_id=53549&te=1&user_id=0f17e6fc2337bd9bf6ffdb7aa3ef4850)

SouthOfTheVillage
03-16-2021, 08:27 PM
I’d gladly pay several thousand dollars to be jabbed with the J&J Vaccine. The m-rna vax’s just feel too experimental, imo.

FighttheGoodFight
03-16-2021, 09:41 PM
Plenty of Vaccines, but Not Enough Arms: A Warning Sign in Cherokee Nation (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/16/us/vaccines-covid-cherokee-native-americans.html?campaign_id=154&emc=edit_cb_20210316&instance_id=28133&nl=coronavirus-briefing®i_id=79175314&segment_id=53549&te=1&user_id=0f17e6fc2337bd9bf6ffdb7aa3ef4850)


I do think if those were in OKC or Tulsa they would go pretty quick. Some people still not wanting to drive very far.

dankrutka
03-16-2021, 10:35 PM
I’d gladly pay several thousand dollars to be jabbed with the J&J Vaccine. The m-rna vax’s just feel too experimental, imo.

The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have not only have gone through full trials, been administered to millions of people, and gained worldwide scientific... but they “feel” too “experimental”?

As long as you get one... whatever. I’ll let you know when I grow a tail.

mugofbeer
03-16-2021, 10:51 PM
OMG this is ridiculous. It's a friggin vaccination. You aren't getting a heart transplant!

catch22
03-17-2021, 12:03 AM
Idk, I am getting excellent 5G reception on my phone now. In fact, I can use the Bluetooth functions via telepathy now.

soonerguru
03-17-2021, 01:03 AM
I’d gladly pay several thousand dollars to be jabbed with the J&J Vaccine. The m-rna vax’s just feel too experimental, imo.

No offense, but I'm starting to hear this rhetoric from some of my right-wing acquaintances who believed the doctor who claims to have had sex with demons.

May I ask where you are getting this information that you cite?

SouthOfTheVillage
03-17-2021, 07:02 AM
No offense, but I'm starting to hear this rhetoric from some of my right-wing acquaintances who believed the doctor who claims to have had sex with demons.

May I ask where you are getting this information that you cite?

It’s actually really simple: i like that the j&j is administered in one dose and it’s not m-rna. The design is much closer to traditional vaccines.

Not surprised, though, that you’d try to make this political.

OkiePoke
03-17-2021, 08:50 AM
I only bought 3 Microsoft Surfaces since my first shot... which seems reasonable as I need one for my kitchen, living room, and bedroom....

Joking aside, I understand that people can be wary of the mRNA style of vaccine. TBF, these are new styles of vaccines. As more and more people are vaccinated w/ the mRNA style, it is proving to be super effective and safe. That is why it is important J&J came out w/ a more traditional style. But, new doesn't necessarily mean bad. The mRNA vaccines will be very important moving forward. Change is difficult to accept even if it's for the best. Overtime, these new styles will be accepted as normal in the near future.

Here is an article from January 2018 highlighting the benefits to other virus's before covid.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd.2017.243

Thomas Vu
03-17-2021, 09:17 AM
Saw an article last night saying that native tribes opened up getting a vaccine to anybody. Guess it's my time.

dankrutka
03-17-2021, 10:58 AM
It’s actually really simple: i like that the j&j is administered in one dose and it’s not m-rna. The design is much closer to traditional vaccines.

And you're getting the vaccine, which is still the big thing. But, to be clear, there's no good evidence that suggests the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is safer in any way than Moderna and Pfizer. So, the point is, maybe don't convey that online. Even if you're just expressing your personal opinion, it's a form of health misinformation that can harm other people who use your logic to make a decision too.

SouthOfTheVillage
03-17-2021, 02:09 PM
And you're getting the vaccine, which is still the big thing. But, to be clear, there's no good evidence that suggests the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is safer in any way than Moderna and Pfizer. So, the point is, maybe don't convey that online. Even if you're just expressing your personal opinion, it's a form of health misinformation that can harm other people who use your logic to make a decision too.

An opinion you disagree with? Sure.

Misinformation? Nah.

The fact that it’s almost impossible to get scheduled for the J&J, but very easy to get the others is, in itself, revealing.

Pete
03-17-2021, 02:13 PM
The fact that it’s almost impossible to get scheduled for the J&J, but very easy to get the others is, in itself, revealing.

That is completely down to the J&J vax being one dose.

Incredibly disingenuous to suggest it's due to verified safety issues.


And I will remind you and everyone else that any misinformation on this very important subject will be deleted and may lead to a permanent ban.

TheTravellers
03-17-2021, 02:52 PM
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And I will remind you and everyone else that any misinformation on this very important subject will be deleted and may lead to a permanent ban.

Can you please also apply that rule to a couple of posters in the Politics forum? :D

dankrutka
03-17-2021, 02:57 PM
An opinion you disagree with? Sure.

Misinformation? Nah.

The fact that it’s almost impossible to get scheduled for the J&J, but very easy to get the others is, in itself, revealing.

Yes, this is health misinformation. "Opinions" that are not backed by evidence and improperly framed are misinformation, by definition. Maybe you want to claim it's not disinformation, meaning you don't have political intention, but it is misinformation. Your type of misinformation can be considered "misleading information" because of the "misleading use of information to frame an issue..." You can see a larger version of the image and read more here (https://firstdraftnews.org/latest/fake-news-complicated/). I teach students how to identify misinformation online so I'm not throwing these words about thoughtlessly.

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Pete
03-17-2021, 02:59 PM
I locked down my appointment for my 2nd Moderna vax for next week.

This was through the OKDH portal. I really like that site because you can readily see all the currently available appointments that are actually open, can refine by the type of dose you need, put in a date range, then click-through and complete your registration.

I'm going to Kingfisher which isn't a bad drive. I probably could have found a site closer if I waited but I'm very glad to have this hard scheduled.

FighttheGoodFight
03-17-2021, 03:32 PM
BIG POD at the Fairgrounds (Monday 3/22) by IMMY open for appointments now!

https://portal.immylabs.com/vaccine

Bellaboo
03-17-2021, 03:49 PM
I locked down my appointment for my 2nd Moderna vax for next week.

This was through the OKDH portal. I really like that site because you can readily see all the currently available appointments that are actually open, can refine by the type of dose you need, put in a date range, then click-through and complete your registration.

I'm going to Kingfisher which isn't a bad drive. I probably could have found a site closer if I waited but I'm very glad to have this hard scheduled.

We went to Enid twice for vaccines. When we came back through Kingfisher, we called Eischens (Okarche) and ordered up a chicken..

Pete
03-17-2021, 03:50 PM
We went to Enid twice for vaccines. When we came back through Kingfisher, we called Eischens and ordered up a chicken..

I've never been to Eischens so I suppose now is the time to finally try it!

Bellaboo
03-17-2021, 03:53 PM
I've never been to Eischens so I suppose now is the time to finally try it!

It's about 10 minutes from Kingfisher and both times the chicken had just came out. It's excellent.

And they take cash only.

Bill Robertson
03-17-2021, 03:54 PM
We went to Enid twice for vaccines. When we came back through Kingfisher, we called Eischens (Okarche) and ordered up a chicken..
Good plan!

TheTravellers
03-17-2021, 04:30 PM
BIG POD at the Fairgrounds (Monday 3/22) by IMMY open for appointments now!

https://portal.immylabs.com/vaccine

Just signed up, it's 7 minutes from my house, yay! Very cool that IMMY does both the first and second appts in one fell swoop.

Bill Robertson
03-17-2021, 06:28 PM
I've never been to Eischens so I suppose now is the time to finally try it!
You should! Just be prepared for good chicken but pretty much no atmosphere. Unless you consider small town dumpy bar an atmosphere. But the chicken make up for it.

FighttheGoodFight
03-17-2021, 06:48 PM
Just signed up, it's 7 minutes from my house, yay! Very cool that IMMY does both the first and second appts in one fell swoop.

Glad you got one close to home!

TheTravellers
03-17-2021, 07:23 PM
Glad you got one close to home!

Yeah, and not on a day when I have tradesmen already coming out, so now I can schedule the HVAC guy and my car window molding replacement, it's all just a house of cards, lol...

Pete
03-17-2021, 08:19 PM
It's really great to see so many people here getting registered and sharing their sense of hope and relief.

As much as I was looking forward to that first dose I was still surprised by how good the entire experience made me feel. Just the physical act of seeing so many workers and volunteers in action and so many others getting the vax really made me feel like I was part of a bigger community in ways that have been critically lacking throughout this entire ordeal. Not only due to the lack of public gatherings and socializing but because there has been so much lying and ugliness around Covid-19 that it was fantastic to see the other side of human nature.

Simply put, it helped restore faith in my fellow man.

That was as important as actually getting immunized.

kukblue1
03-17-2021, 08:55 PM
The second Pfizer shot is kicking me and you know what. Fever for about 18 hours now the highest I got was 101.9 it's been 99.5 most of the day today

mugofbeer
03-17-2021, 09:49 PM
Should stop soon, at least.

soonerguru
03-17-2021, 11:13 PM
Hopefully this isn't a sign of the future in Oklahoma.

A Warning Sign in Cherokee Nation

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/16/us/vaccines-covid-cherokee-native-americans.html

soonerguru
03-17-2021, 11:15 PM
That is completely down to the J&J vax being one dose.

It's also related to supply. Oklahoma doesn't have nearly the number of J&J doses as it does the other vaccines.

wunderkind
03-18-2021, 07:25 AM
YES to the restoration-of-hopefulness trend, that I hope continues. I received second Pfizer dose yesterday in Guthrie. The process was smooth. I didn't even feel the shot this time, like, I was waiting for it and then she said, we're all done. LOL
So far no side effects. I am so thankful to all the medical staff and volunteers.
Now feel better about being out amongst other people. A group at work had been planning to celebrate a retirement, hopefully outdoors at a local venue next week. Perhaps more people will be inclined to come out now.

OKC Talker
03-18-2021, 08:10 AM
It’s actually really simple: i like that the j&j is administered in one dose and it’s not m-rna. The design is much closer to traditional vaccines.

Basically, unless you want to travel to China to get a "traditional" vaccine, you should take whatever shot is available.

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-china-55212787

The only available "traditional" vaccine using attenuated or dead virus is the Chinese vaccine and they've been shown to have much less protection both in efficacy and length of immunity. The m-rna and viral vector vaccines are both new technologies and have drawbacks but only related to logistics and not to their effectiveness. m-rna requires special handling in super cold fridges because it's so fragile, and people can build resistance to the chimpanzee vector itself if it's used more than once like in booster shots.

I've been holding back from posting about this because the last thing we need is people thinking there's another reason not to get vaccinated. Hopefully I've explained it well enough to avoid this but feel free to ask for clarification!

OkiePoke
03-18-2021, 09:50 AM
I locked down my appointment for my 2nd Moderna vax for next week.

This was through the OKDH portal. I really like that site because you can readily see all the currently available appointments that are actually open, can refine by the type of dose you need, put in a date range, then click-through and complete your registration.

I'm going to Kingfisher which isn't a bad drive. I probably could have found a site closer if I waited but I'm very glad to have this hard scheduled.

When I go on the website, I can't sort by vaccine type at all.

Pete
03-18-2021, 09:54 AM
When I go on the website, I can't sort by vaccine type at all.

When I said you could refine by the type of dose, I meant 1st or 2nd dose.

You do have to read the list to see if they offer Moderna, Pfizer or both.

OkiePoke
03-18-2021, 10:38 AM
When I said you could refine by the type of dose, I meant 1st or 2nd dose.

You do have to read the list to see if they offer Moderna, Pfizer or both.

Okay, that's what I was getting. It would be great if there were radio buttons to select which dose.

soonerguru
03-18-2021, 10:42 AM
There are a number of other sites and FB groups to join that can help you land an appt. besides the OSDH portal. My wife was texting friends about available appointments all day yesterday while the OSDH was showing none available.

It's important for people to understand that the OSDH site is not showing all available appointments. Not even a fraction. I worry that people will visit that site and think there are no appointments available.

THIS IS AN IRRESPONSIBLE COMMUNICATIONS PROBLEM BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

So, as an example. OSDH showed no appointments. But my wife was able to find available slots from three local pharmacies, IMMY Labs, the Indian tribes, and others. This was after only about an hour of online sleuthing.

ON EDIT: My wife suggests searching the Facebook group Vaccinate Our State: Helping Okies One Shot at a Time. Sorry, I know it's hilarious but it's apparently THE place to get an appointment. The admin team even offers to help you set up an appointment if you are unable.

TheTravellers
03-18-2021, 11:37 AM
Okay, that's what I was getting. It would be great if there were radio buttons to select which dose.

vaccine-alerts.com has buttons to select between first and second dose.

TheTravellers
03-18-2021, 11:37 AM
There are a number of other sites and FB groups to join that can help you land an appt. besides the OSDH portal. My wife was texting friends about available appointments all day yesterday while the OSDH was showing none available.

It's important for people to understand that the OSDH site is not showing all available appointments. Not even a fraction. I worry that people will visit that site and think there are no appointments available.

THIS IS AN IRRESPONSIBLE COMMUNICATIONS PROBLEM BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

So, as an example. OSDH showed no appointments. But my wife was able to find available slots from three local pharmacies, IMMY Labs, the Indian tribes, and others. This was after only about an hour of online sleuthing.

ON EDIT: My wife suggests searching the Facebook group Vaccinate Our State: Helping Okies One Shot at a Time. Sorry, I know it's hilarious but it's apparently THE place to get an appointment. The admin team even offers to help you set up an appointment if you are unable.

As Bill has been saying, use the aggregator site vaccine-alerts.com.

Bill Robertson
03-18-2021, 12:09 PM
I know this is about OU football but maybe society will mirror this. SoonerScoop is reporting that many OU players have been vaccinated and the interest among those who haven't in getting the shot is "growing".

dankrutka
03-18-2021, 12:16 PM
In the NBA they just released separate protocol for vaccinated and unvaccinated players. In short, the new rules provide a big incentive for players to get vaccinated, which of course, makes the NBA workplace safer for everyone. I wonder if many businesses or institutions would make such changes (e.g., unvaccinated employees must continue wearing masks, vaccinated employees do not have to wear them). There's certainly a case to be made that preventing a COVID breakout in an office would be in the company's interest and this wouldn't be some arbitrary punishment... it's based in medical recommendations.

Bill Robertson
03-18-2021, 12:31 PM
As Bill has been saying, use the aggregator site vaccine-alerts.com.
And most if not all the notifications specify which vaccine it is. I just re-registered even though I'm set. Just to see if it still works as well as it did. Yep. It does.

OKC Talker
03-18-2021, 12:46 PM
I wonder if many businesses or institutions would make such changes (e.g., unvaccinated employees must continue wearing masks, vaccinated employees do not have to wear them). There's certainly a case to be made that preventing a COVID breakout in an office would be in the company's interest and this wouldn't be some arbitrary punishment... it's based in medical recommendations.

There are significant liability issues for companies with employees who spread COVID: https://www.hrdive.com/news/nearly-a-year-into-the-pandemic-employers-brace-for-coronavirus-lawsuits/594068/

SouthOfTheVillage
03-18-2021, 12:57 PM
There are significant liability issues for companies with employees who spread COVID: https://www.hrdive.com/news/nearly-a-year-into-the-pandemic-employers-brace-for-coronavirus-lawsuits/594068/

I mean, sure, if a Plaintiff is interested in being blackballed from his/her industry.

Also, big difference between bringing a claim and actually establishing liability. Uphill battle.

FighttheGoodFight
03-18-2021, 07:58 PM
In the NBA they just released separate protocol for vaccinated and unvaccinated players. In short, the new rules provide a big incentive for players to get vaccinated, which of course, makes the NBA workplace safer for everyone. I wonder if many businesses or institutions would make such changes (e.g., unvaccinated employees must continue wearing masks, vaccinated employees do not have to wear them). There's certainly a case to be made that preventing a COVID breakout in an office would be in the company's interest and this wouldn't be some arbitrary punishment... it's based in medical recommendations.

I like the companies that are paying employees to get vaccinated. Smart as they will get less sick workers out of work.

Canoe
03-18-2021, 08:38 PM
In the NBA they just released separate protocol for vaccinated and unvaccinated players. In short, the new rules provide a big incentive for players to get vaccinated, which of course, makes the NBA workplace safer for everyone. I wonder if many businesses or institutions would make such changes (e.g., unvaccinated employees must continue wearing masks, vaccinated employees do not have to wear them). There's certainly a case to be made that preventing a COVID breakout in an office would be in the company's interest and this wouldn't be some arbitrary punishment... it's based in medical recommendations.

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2021/03/15/hell-no-correctional-officers-are-declining-the-coronavirus-vaccine-en-masse

The marshall project reports that most prison guards are currently against vaccination. Aren't prison guards state employees?

Would you apply your idea above to the prison guards or are you thinking it should apply tomonly office workers? Where do you draw the line on the above policy?

As for me? I believe this should be handled on a company by company basis. Some companies make you wear a suit and toe to be professional. Some other companies may make mask a requirement.

OKCRealtor
03-19-2021, 08:01 AM
I got my 1st one (Pfizer) at CVS on Wednesday, I was in and out in less that 20 minutes including the observation period after. Never been excited for a shot in my life until this one. Looks like there's some pretty good data out with protection from just the 1st shot which is nice should I catch a case between now and after the 2nd.

Bill Robertson
03-19-2021, 08:26 AM
My wife is getting her 2nd this morning. She was not planning on going back to work after just in case. But she has to. I'm sure she'll be fine.

kukblue1
03-19-2021, 10:09 AM
My wife is getting her 2nd this morning. She was not planning on going back to work after just in case. But she has to. I'm sure she'll be fine.

My fever finally broke after 46 hours. Well I should say fever was 24 hours elevated temperature was 22 hours. 101.9 was my highest.

king183
03-19-2021, 11:00 AM
I received my second Pfizer shot on Monday. The only side effects I had were a sore arm and extreme happiness and relief.

PoliSciGuy
03-19-2021, 11:07 AM
I got mine on Tuesday, and same to both. Sore arm was nothing worse than tetanus shot.

Bill Robertson
03-19-2021, 11:17 AM
I texted my wife the last two replies. Sorry kukblue1 but texting her yours could cost me.

kukblue1
03-19-2021, 05:44 PM
I texted my wife the last two replies. Sorry kukblue1 but texting her yours could cost me.

I hear you man. I wear a Garmin watch it tracks sleep and heart rate. My heart rate is normally around 60. For the first 2 nights after my shot it was 82 and 78. Was back to 62 last night. All day stress level was high also. In fact the first full day after the shot I never was in a resting state. All numbers are now back to normal.

How is she doing?

Bill Robertson
03-19-2021, 06:09 PM
I hear you man. I wear a Garmin watch it tracks sleep and heart rate. My heart rate is normally around 60. For the first 2 nights after my shot it was 82 and 78. Was back to 62 last night. All day stress level was high also. In fact the first full day after the shot I never was in a resting state. All numbers are now back to normal.

How is she doing?
Thanks for asking! Shot was @ 10:30. So far only a sore arm and bags of frozen peas are handling that.

OKCbyTRANSFER
03-19-2021, 06:20 PM
I just came back from PA (had to fly in for a funeral). Very difficult to get vaccines up there. My sister has a friend who goes on line and finds people appointments. Not sure how, nor am I asking, but as of next Tuesday, all my eligible family members will have received their first shot. Our only good news during a otherwise difficult week. They are amazed how far along we are here.