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kjones
03-07-2021, 11:04 AM
There's always going to be fans who want Black athletes to entertain them, but don't care about the lives and rights of Black people. I mean, they were literally just arguing for due process and equality in police interactions in the face of police violence and for equal voting opportunities in the face of widespread efforts at Black voter suppression. If you can't support those two basic rights then I don't know what to say. I gained a ton of respect for the players this past year and can't wait to spend more time and money at Thunder games.

Why does it have to be black athletes? Why can’t it be athletes. I brought nothing about race in it. As long as everyone keeps attaching a race adjective to every person there will be divide. I just stated I don’t needed politics in my entertainment.

PoliSciGuy
03-07-2021, 11:18 AM
Why does it have to be black athletes? Why can’t it be athletes. I brought nothing about race in it. As long as everyone keeps attaching a race adjective to every person there will be divide. I just stated I don’t needed politics in my entertainment.

You literally canceled your season tickets over LeBron James and other athletes supporting a black equality movement. You definitely brought race into it.

kjones
03-07-2021, 11:31 AM
You literally canceled your season tickets over LeBron James and other athletes supporting a black equality movement. You definitely brought race into it.

Let’s just agree to disagree. BC I will have my viewpoints and you will have yours. Bickering back and forth has never caused someone to change sides. I was just stating the fact with recent political events being in the NBA I will no longer be a season ticket holder. For the most part my family and friends feel the exact same way. Thunder is not a big enough market to sustain losing a lot of fans or truthfully corporate dollars.

Are any of you all even invested in the thunder as a season ticket holder?

kjones
03-07-2021, 11:33 AM
Let’s just agree to disagree. BC I will have my viewpoints and you will have yours. Bickering back and forth has never caused someone to change sides. I was just stating the fact with recent political events being in the NBA I will no longer be a season ticket holder. For the most part my family and friends feel the exact same way. Thunder is not a big enough market to sustain losing a lot of fans or truthfully corporate dollars.

Are any of you all even invested in the thunder as a season ticket holder?

And there isn’t a waitlist for thunder tickets. Hasn’t been one in 2-3 years

dcsooner
03-07-2021, 12:09 PM
The option for full refund was available but not publicized. Basically big guy (thunder) wanting a zero percent interest loan from the small man. I called and was able to get my money back. As a season ticket holder of thunder since 2009 I’m done with thunder and NBA. Between the BLM and Lebron James politics I’ve had enough. I come to watch basketball to watch basketball not hear a multi million dollar athlete tell me how I should vote and see the world.

I have been to about 15-20 high school basketball games this year (zero in previous 10 years) and though the talent level isn’t the same it has been a breath of fresh air to just watch basketball without all the antics.

I find this comment to be astonishing. I guess only rich white guys can tell you how to see the world. No one tells me how to see the world, but everyone has the right to hold a personal view. Don't see your correlation of Lebron's comments/politics and the Thunder or any other NBA team (actually I do), but I say GOOD RIDDANCE .(Lol)

Urbanized
03-07-2021, 01:27 PM
...Are any of you all even invested in the thunder as a season ticket holder?
I’ve been a Thunder season ticket holder since 2008, and a NOLA/OKC Hornets season ticket holder - the same seats in fact - for two years before that. Missed one Hornets home game in each of the two seasons they were here, once because I was in the hospital having emergency surgery and once because of my best friend’s couples baby shower (and I’ve given him a ration ever since).

Made every home game of the Thunder’s first season and traveled to a couple away. In fact, have traveled to multiple NBA cities to watch the Thunder play. Once the Thunder made the playoffs for a number of seasons I averaged more games than there were regular season home games, including traveling to playoff games in other cities.

Yes, I’m “invested.” And I’m not going anywhere.

I’m a fan because I love my city and truly enjoy the pro game. But I also recognize that these players are people - actual human beings - and they have a right to make themselves heard via their available platforms every bit as much as you or I have the right to share our own opinions publicly.

That said, it’s entirely fair for Pete, who owns this board, to moderate its content as he sees fit. And if you or I don’t care for the resulting content, we certainly have the right to take our money (or in the case of this board our eyeballs and clicks) elsewhere. You can certainly choose to dump the NBA (but I was thinking everyone was mad at “cancel culture?” It’s so difficult to keep track these days...).

The NBA and its players knew this was the case when they took on more social advocacy issues. They knew they might lose some fans, but they also knew that they might help create the change they seek. Their choice, a calculated risk, and I don’t begrudge them the platform (which, importantly, THEY own).

However you obviously do, and that’s your right. But...BUT: coming online in this place - YOUR available platform (though owned by another) - to offer your opinion and to denigrate the NBA and its players for doing so on THEIRS is hypocritical.

And make no mistake, YOU brought this topic into this thread. We all have eyes, and we can all scroll up in this thread and see it for ourselves. THEN you suggested others should simply drop it; not bicker, “agree to disagree.”

So, quite clearly, what you are telling us is that YOU get to say YOUR piece but everyone else needs to just “shut up and dribble (https://www.sho.com/shut-up-and-dribble/season/1).”

HangryHippo
03-07-2021, 01:46 PM
I’ve been a Thunder season ticket holder since 2008, and a NOLA/OKC Hornets season ticket holder - the same seats in fact - for two years before that. Missed one Hornets home game in each of the two seasons they were here, once because I was in the hospital having emergency surgery and once because of my best friend’s couples baby shower (and I’ve given him a ration ever since).

Made every home game of the Thunder’s first season and traveled to a couple. In fact have traveled to multiple NBA cities to watch the Thunder play. Once the Thunder made the playoffs for a number of seasons I averaged more games than there were regular season home games, including traveling to playoff games in other cities.

Yes, I’m “invested.” And I’m not going anywhere.

I’m a fan because I love my city and truly enjoy the pro game. But I also recognize that these players are people, and they have a right to make themselves heard every bit as much as you or I have the right to share our own opinions publicly.

That said, it’s entirely fair for Pete, who owns this board, to moderate its content as he sees fit. And if you or I don’t care for the resulting content, we certainly have the right to take our money (or in the case of this board our eyeballs and clicks) elsewhere. You can certainly choose to dump the NBA (but I was thinking everyone was mad at “cancel culture?” It’s so difficult to keep track these days...).

The NBA and its players knew this was the case when they took on more social advocacy issues. They knew they might lose some fans, but they also knew that they might help create the change they seek. Their choice, a calculated risk, and I don’t begrudge them the platform.

However you obviously do, and that’s your right. But...BUT: coming online in this place - YOUR available platform - to denigrate them for doing so on theirs is hypocritical. And make no mistake, YOU brought this topic into this thread, and then suggested others should simply drop it; not bicker, “agree to disagree.”

So, what you are telling us is that YOU get to say YOUR piece but everyone else needs to just “shut up and dribble (https://www.sho.com/shut-up-and-dribble/season/1).”
Very well said!

kukblue1
03-07-2021, 01:56 PM
I have bad news for the Thunder Covid I think is going to always be around just like the flu. I hope I'm totally wrong though. That being said if we can't put 4,000-5,000 fans in the arena with cases being around 700 a day how are we going to put 18,000 fans in the arena if cases are still 100-200 a day come the fall? Hopefully we can get it below 100 a day and find a good treatment but at what point do we start to have concerts and large events again?

SEMIweather
03-07-2021, 02:19 PM
I mean, we're still not in a good place with regards to COVID, even with how well the vaccination program has been going in this state so far. We're definitely trending well, but hospitalizations are still around where they were at the beginning of the summer surge, and cases have leveled off right around where they were last August. By the time the 2021-22 season starts, I would be stunned if we're not in a much better place than we are right now. My expectation is that there will be plenty of people in attendance at next season's home opener.

PoliSciGuy
03-07-2021, 02:25 PM
I have bad news for the Thunder Covid I think is going to always be around just like the flu. I hope I'm totally wrong though. That being said if we can't put 4,000-5,000 fans in the arena with cases being around 700 a day how are we going to put 18,000 fans in the arena if cases are still 100-200 a day come the fall? Hopefully we can get it below 100 a day and find a good treatment but at what point do we start to have concerts and large events again?

Covid will always be around like the flu...but we don't cancel indoor sports because of the flu. Covid will continue to be a problem for folks who aren't vaccinated, but after May everyone who wants a vaccine will be vaccinated. The vaccines have been shown to pretty much eliminate hospitalization and deaths due to COVID. Come next fall they can run full capacity, just as they do at flu season, without too much of a concern.

dcsooner
03-07-2021, 03:43 PM
I’ve been a Thunder season ticket holder since 2008, and a NOLA/OKC Hornets season ticket holder - the same seats in fact - for two years before that. Missed one Hornets home game in each of the two seasons they were here, once because I was in the hospital having emergency surgery and once because of my best friend’s couples baby shower (and I’ve given him a ration ever since).

Made every home game of the Thunder’s first season and traveled to a couple away. In fact, have traveled to multiple NBA cities to watch the Thunder play. Once the Thunder made the playoffs for a number of seasons I averaged more games than there were regular season home games, including traveling to playoff games in other cities.

Yes, I’m “invested.” And I’m not going anywhere.

I’m a fan because I love my city and truly enjoy the pro game. But I also recognize that these players are people - actual human beings - and they have a right to make themselves heard via their available platforms every bit as much as you or I have the right to share our own opinions publicly.

That said, it’s entirely fair for Pete, who owns this board, to moderate its content as he sees fit. And if you or I don’t care for the resulting content, we certainly have the right to take our money (or in the case of this board our eyeballs and clicks) elsewhere. You can certainly choose to dump the NBA (but I was thinking everyone was mad at “cancel culture?” It’s so difficult to keep track these days...).

The NBA and its players knew this was the case when they took on more social advocacy issues. They knew they might lose some fans, but they also knew that they might help create the change they seek. Their choice, a calculated risk, and I don’t begrudge them the platform (which, importantly, THEY own).

However you obviously do, and that’s your right. But...BUT: coming online in this place - YOUR available platform (though owned by another) - to offer your opinion and to denigrate the NBA and its players for doing so on THEIRS is hypocritical.

And make no mistake, YOU brought this topic into this thread. We all have eyes, and we can all scroll up in this thread and see it for ourselves. THEN you suggested others should simply drop it; not bicker, “agree to disagree.”

So, quite clearly, what you are telling us is that YOU get to say YOUR piece but everyone else needs to just “shut up and dribble (https://www.sho.com/shut-up-and-dribble/season/1).”

Damn, Urbanized I appreciate your comments so much. Gives me hope in people (at least some)

kukblue1
03-07-2021, 03:48 PM
Covid will always be around like the flu...but we don't cancel indoor sports because of the flu. Covid will continue to be a problem for folks who aren't vaccinated, but after May everyone who wants a vaccine will be vaccinated. The vaccines have been shown to pretty much eliminate hospitalization and deaths due to COVID. Come next fall they can run full capacity, just as they do at flu season, without too much of a concern.

I think we are over a million people with at least 1 shot. I guess my thinking was they could let season ticket holders in that have has 2 shots already and just have to show your vaccination card and ID at the door but I could see how that could be a problem having to check that.

That being said how are other cities doing it? Anyone know how Dallas in letting their fans in? Are there any requirements?

dankrutka
03-07-2021, 07:45 PM
Why does it have to be black athletes? Why can’t it be athletes. I brought nothing about race in it. As long as everyone keeps attaching a race adjective to every person there will be divide. I just stated I don’t needed politics in my entertainment.

Talking about race is NOT the problem. Racism is the problem. Of course, you're welcome to spend your money however you want and I get that sports can be an "escape" for other aspects of our lives, but here's the thing, if you've listened to Black people in this country, and Black athletes in the NBA, then you'd realize they don't have the privilege of escaping racism.
— Masai Ujiri, one of the only Black team presidents was profiled and harassed by a White police officer when the Raptors won the 2019 NBA championship. He was literally trying to celebrate this championship with the team he created. This should have been the highlight of his life, but his skin color meant he couldn't even "escape" even while at his job. Then the police officer lied, claimed he was harassed, and sued Ujiri. Of course, a video proved the officer was lying.
— While playing for the Milwaukee Bucks, Sterling Brown was physically harassed by police officers for a parking violation.
— Thabo Sefolosha, who was a model citizen of the OKC community for years and great guy, had his leg broken by a police officer when trying to be supportive.
— There are currently over 200 bills in state houses across the country right now seeking to increase voter suppression, and many of these bills target Black communities where polling sites are purposefully closed.

OKC Thunder players have been incredible community members since they've arrived. They've given and given and given to this community. Just look at all the Thanksgiving food drives and school donations Russ made. KD gave so much. So many players have. They've embraced this city in ways we couldn't have imagined. And, yes, OKC Thunder players are primarily Black. And when incredible guys like Chris Paul who do nothing but give to this city ask for us to stand with them, hell yeah I'll be there.

And, yes, I've been a season ticket holder since 2009 even though I haven't lived in the state since 2011. I drive back for 10-12 games every season.

dankrutka
03-07-2021, 07:52 PM
Covid will always be around like the flu...but we don't cancel indoor sports because of the flu. Covid will continue to be a problem for folks who aren't vaccinated, but after May everyone who wants a vaccine will be vaccinated. The vaccines have been shown to pretty much eliminate hospitalization and deaths due to COVID. Come next fall they can run full capacity, just as they do at flu season, without too much of a concern.

+1

Larger events should largely be back by the summer or fall, but if anyone wants to guarantee it, talk to people in your life who are hesitant about getting a vaccine shot. The more people who are vaccinated, the more able we will be able to return to normal life. It has to be a community effort.

BoulderSooner
03-08-2021, 10:46 AM
To the best of my recollection, season ticketholders (I'm one of them) weren't give the option of a full cash refund, just options of opting in to full or partial season tickets (when it was believed there would be fans in the stands), or opting out of the season altogether. Either of those options meant any money already received by the Thunder would be rolled over into the next season's tickets.

The Thunder normally have renewal deadlines for the next season in March, while the season is still going on, and that happened this year, but the Thunder postponed taking any money until the summer, then stopped it again in late fall when they made the decision to not allow fans, and any money still due on your account will need to be paid off by April, i believe.

I know of no options for receiving refunds or opting out altogether as a season ticketholder, unless it was something that was worked out individually between the ticketholder and Thunder ticket representative.

season ticket holder as well have been since the OKC hornets .. .. and a full refund is an option since fans are now not allowed this entire season ..


and as far as not wanting politics in sports .. the ratings .. show that lots and lots of people feel that way ..

BoulderSooner
03-08-2021, 10:46 AM
It could also just be that someone in the Thunder's ownership group (thinking Kaiser here) is adamant on not having a few thousand people in an indoor arena during a pandemic in which vaccines probably won't be widely available until the last few weeks of the regular season. In any case, if the Thunder aren't able to safely have something close to a normal game experience next season, we'll probably have much bigger things to worry about.

more likely the ownership group is just letting presti run things how he sees fit .

Laramie
03-08-2021, 01:42 PM
Let's not kid ourselves. Presti has put together a team he thought would 'tank.' Then he could cherry pick to build around the franchise's future.

Call them 'The No Tank you, Thunder.' These guys don't know how to roll over and die. Players feel they have a time to shine and show off their talents which draw the attention of NBA teams.
A young inspiring Coach Mark Daigneault, continues to impress.

Remember Alex Caruso, he was a product of the OKC Blue development. Now a Laker who was instrumental in helping to bring an NBA title back to L.A. in 2020.

okcoolcoolcool
03-08-2021, 03:56 PM
The option for full refund was available but not publicized. Basically big guy (thunder) wanting a zero percent interest loan from the small man. I called and was able to get my money back. As a season ticket holder of thunder since 2009 I’m done with thunder and NBA. Between the BLM and Lebron James politics I’ve had enough. I come to watch basketball to watch basketball not hear a multi million dollar athlete tell me how I should vote and see the world.

I have been to about 15-20 high school basketball games this year (zero in previous 10 years) and though the talent level isn’t the same it has been a breath of fresh air to just watch basketball without all the antics.

They are not telling you how you should vote and see the world. They are using their rights to use their platform to express themselves. No one tells a computer engineer to shutup and code, but people feel just fine telling athletes to shutup and dribble. The fact that you use words like "a multi million dollar athlete shouldn't tell me" is literally dripping with entitlement and ownership, as if they a) didn't earn their money and b) are owned by the fans. The NBA listens to the players because the players literally are the brand. They have organized via the players union and leveraged the media in such a way that they are literally irreplaceable. If the top 20 players walked away from the NBA, it would fold in a year. And if ticket sales were absolutely integral to the NBA's success, they wouldn't have bothered playing this season.

I like how people think cancel culture was invented in 2020. I've been told to "boycott" everything from Disney to Coca-Cola since the late 80's because someone didn't like something and thought they'd stick it to the man by taking their "hard earned dollars elsewhere". People have been trying to cancel each other for decades, this generation is the first to succeed.

kukblue1
03-08-2021, 05:34 PM
While yes Cancel culture has been around a long time back in the day they were trying to get things cancelled in the present. Nuclear bombs Berlin Wall, and even Coke criticism of the use of Coca-Cola products, as well as the company itself, escalated, with criticism leveled at the company over health effects, environmental issues, animal testing, economic business practices and employee issues. The here and now the important things. Not Potatoes, Cartoons, and books from 50 years ago.

Back to the Thunder. A few more teams Boston and one other one are letting fans in at the end of the Month. Thunder are just now 1 of 10 teams with no fans and 4 of those teams are in California which probably won't even next fall the rate they are going. Chicago is thinking about it starting in April. If cases keep going down it might be a bad look for the Thunder to be the only team with no Fans. NHL has fans now also.

okcoolcoolcool
03-08-2021, 07:58 PM
While yes Cancel culture has been around a long time back in the day they were trying to get things cancelled in the present. Nuclear bombs Berlin Wall, and even Coke criticism of the use of Coca-Cola products, as well as the company itself, escalated, with criticism leveled at the company over health effects, environmental issues, animal testing, economic business practices and employee issues. The here and now the important things. Not Potatoes, Cartoons, and books from 50 years ago.

Back to the Thunder. A few more teams Boston and one other one are letting fans in at the end of the Month. Thunder are just now 1 of 10 teams with no fans and 4 of those teams are in California which probably won't even next fall the rate they are going. Chicago is thinking about it starting in April. If cases keep going down it might be a bad look for the Thunder to be the only team with no Fans. NHL has fans now also.

Teams are allowing fans with very strict rules and restrictions. The Thunder have an entire years worth of data to show that a majority of Oklahomans do not care about public safety and consider masks to be the pinnacle of oppression. It's not worth what would probably be endless conflict trying to get people to wear and keep their masks on and stay socially distanced.

All of this said, this season is going to mean nothing in the long run. If the Thunder turn into a contender in 2-3 years, they will have zero problems packing the arena and generating revenue. Sure you might have a few who think high school basketball is just as entertaining, but I don't think the Thunder are gonna cry over his dollars.

dankrutka
03-08-2021, 08:03 PM
and as far as not wanting politics in sports .. the ratings .. show that lots and lots of people feel that way ..

I can't imagine how you could identify a causal relationship between ratings and people's reasons when (a) this is the first bad team since the first season, (b) lots of people don't have access to games anymore (e.g., YouTubeTV) because of the TV rights fight, and (c) the ongoing pandemic. There's a lot of factors that could cause a ratings drop (which I haven't even seen). Anyway, correlation does not equal causation.

BoulderSooner
03-09-2021, 06:43 AM
I can't imagine how you could identify a causal relationship between ratings and people's reasons when (a) this is the first bad team since the first season, (b) lots of people don't have access to games anymore (e.g., YouTubeTV) because of the TV rights fight, and (c) the ongoing pandemic. There's a lot of factors that could cause a ratings drop (which I haven't even seen). Anyway, correlation does not equal causation.

didn't mean the thunder in particular ... meant the NBA in general

okcoolcoolcool
03-09-2021, 09:06 AM
didn't mean the thunder in particular ... meant the NBA in general

Dankrutka's point still stands. Fox Sports and streaming platforms have this pi**ing contest every single season and usually one of them caves just before the start. This year they didn't, and without fans, it kinda feels like a G-League game, so people are minimally motivated to switch providers, especially moving back to dinosaurs like cable or ATT for lower entertainment value.

The dip in ratings is less political and more practical.

BoulderSooner
03-09-2021, 12:42 PM
Dankrutka's point still stands. Fox Sports and streaming platforms have this pi**ing contest every single season and usually one of them caves just before the start. This year they didn't, and without fans, it kinda feels like a G-League game, so people are minimally motivated to switch providers, especially moving back to dinosaurs like cable or ATT for lower entertainment value.

The dip in ratings is less political and more practical.

if losing the thunder games hasn't hurt the streaming service subscriptions that tells you about all you need to know ..

dankrutka
03-09-2021, 01:04 PM
if losing the thunder games hasn't hurt the streaming service subscriptions that tells you about all you need to know ..

Lol. No, it doesn’t actually.

okcoolcoolcool
03-09-2021, 01:39 PM
if losing the thunder games hasn't hurt the streaming service subscriptions that tells you about all you need to know ..

Streaming at $10/month offers 100x more value than cable/att at $50+/month. 5G is already eating at their infrastructure choke hold. The only reason streaming and the NBA hasn't put their foot down on this is because they didn't even know if there would be a full season. The NBA has already partnered with the Youtube highlight reel channels because of how much it has increased their reach. There's no chance that the NBA doesn't side with streaming platforms by next season.

kukblue1
03-09-2021, 01:52 PM
I have dish network so no Thunder games for me. That being said I stream all the Thunder games and don't pay a dime. SHHHH

okcoolcoolcool
03-09-2021, 02:08 PM
I have dish network so no Thunder games for me. That being said I stream all the Thunder games and don't pay a dime. SHHHH

You're not alone. The NBA used to try and shut it down like other leagues, but realized how much long term popularity they gained by going for volume viewership than strict exclusivity. They have some shutdown theater just to keep streamers from getting greedy, but there's just no way they give all that up to make the old dinosaur platforms happy.

dankrutka
03-09-2021, 11:33 PM
I do League Pass so I've already shelled out my money to the NBA, but I did switch services so I could get Mavs games and NBATV too.

OKCretro
03-10-2021, 09:55 AM
Nothing to see here, everything is fine.....

https://www.newsweek.com/nba-all-star-game-takes-sharp-nose-dive-tv-ratings-despite-new-format-1574934

lowest tv audience in history. First time ever to draw under 6 million viewers

Laramie
03-10-2021, 12:32 PM
https://lockervision.nba.com/assets/uniform/Dallas%20Mavericks/DAL_AE_1_1.jpg



Mavericks @ Thunder
Thursday, March 11
Chesapeake Energy Arena
Fox Sports Oklahoma, 8 p.m.

https://lockervision.nba.com/assets/uniform/Oklahoma%20City%20Thunder/OKC_EE_1_1.jpg


https://irwinseating-images.s3.amazonaws.com/Installations/chesapeake-OKC/Ford-Ctr-SRS.jpg?mtime=20161212094219&focal=none

BoulderSooner
03-10-2021, 01:32 PM
Nothing to see here, everything is fine.....

https://www.newsweek.com/nba-all-star-game-takes-sharp-nose-dive-tv-ratings-despite-new-format-1574934

lowest tv audience in history. First time ever to draw under 6 million viewers

this is the first year that i can remember that i didn't watch

okcoolcoolcool
03-10-2021, 02:12 PM
Nothing to see here, everything is fine.....

https://www.newsweek.com/nba-all-star-game-takes-sharp-nose-dive-tv-ratings-despite-new-format-1574934

lowest tv audience in history. First time ever to draw under 6 million viewers

A lot of players said they didn't want to play or participate. They all understand why it's important to play the regular season and playoffs, but they're all getting pretty burned out by this point in the season. Then the NBA basically forced them to have the All Star game, which is utterly pointless without live fan interaction. NBA All Star weekend is only moderately entertaining in a normal year. It's no surprise that this one didn't get much attention.

BoulderSooner
03-10-2021, 02:47 PM
A lot of players said they didn't want to play or participate. They all understand why it's important to play the regular season and playoffs, but they're all getting pretty burned out by this point in the season. Then the NBA basically forced them to have the All Star game, which is utterly pointless without live fan interaction. NBA All Star weekend is only moderately entertaining in a normal year. It's no surprise that this one didn't get much attention.

there were fans at the all star game ... by april 1 22 teams will have fans at games .

kukblue1
03-10-2021, 05:43 PM
there were fans at the all star game ... by april 1 22 teams will have fans at games .

And the Thunder won't be one ever. SMH. The other 7 teams 4 of the are in California which may never open again, Portland, Chicago, other 2 slipping my mind right now. Charlotte? and ?

jn1780
03-11-2021, 03:17 PM
Nothing to see here, everything is fine.....

https://www.newsweek.com/nba-all-star-game-takes-sharp-nose-dive-tv-ratings-despite-new-format-1574934

lowest tv audience in history. First time ever to draw under 6 million viewers

I think the last two seasons really should have an *. Don't matter. Might as well be a couple of office workers playing a game of pickup basketball after work. Maybe the fans will come back next year.

Laramie
03-11-2021, 10:36 PM
NO TANK YOU, THUNDER!


Mavericks 108 @ Thunder 116

Box score https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401307358] (https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401307358)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lninecePrf0

nighttrain12
03-12-2021, 12:30 AM
Scary game at the end but still entertaining. It would have looked and sounded better with fans in the stands. What's up with OKCThunderFans.com?

Laramie
03-12-2021, 09:21 AM
Scary game at the end but still entertaining. It would have looked and sounded better with fans in the stands. What's up with OKCThunderFans.com?

Somehow their website doesn't load on my browser either. Betts, a poster on this forum IIRC owns that site.

Laramie
03-12-2021, 02:28 PM
https://lockervision.nba.com/assets/uniform/New%20York%20Knicks/NYK_IE_2_2.jpg



Knicks @ Thunder
Saturday, March 13
Chesapeake Energy Arena, Oklahoma City
Fox Sports Oklahoma, 1 p.m.

https://lockervision.nba.com/assets/uniform/Oklahoma%20City%20Thunder/OKC_AE_1_1.jpg

nighttrain12
03-12-2021, 09:41 PM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31054102/sources-oklahoma-city-thunder-trading-hamidou-diallo-detroit-pistons-svi-mykhailiuk-second-round-pick

Diallo is getting traded to Detroit! DAMMIT!

nighttrain12
03-13-2021, 01:16 AM
It's weird having 2 straight 1pm games in OKC. It's too bad we can't attend either of them!

Bellaboo
03-13-2021, 06:49 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31054102/sources-oklahoma-city-thunder-trading-hamidou-diallo-detroit-pistons-svi-mykhailiuk-second-round-pick

Diallo is getting traded to Detroit! DAMMIT!

Contract year coming up, and we picked up a better shooter.

Laramie
03-13-2021, 03:18 PM
Knicks 119 @ Thunder 97

Box score https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401307369

Laramie
03-13-2021, 03:31 PM
https://lockervision.nba.com/assets/uniform/Memphis%20Grizzlies/MEM_CE_3_3.jpg



Grizzlies @ Thunder
Sunday, March 14
Chesapeake Energy Arena, Oklahoma City
Fox Sports Oklahoma, 1 p.m.

https://lockervision.nba.com/assets/uniform/Oklahoma%20City%20Thunder/OKC_AE_1_1.jpg

nighttrain12
03-13-2021, 09:34 PM
Contract year coming up, and we picked up a better shooter.

Better shooter? You need to check those stats again! If we are going to succeed, then we can't be afraid of someones 'contract year'. We lost this trade big time!

Rover
03-13-2021, 09:57 PM
Better shooter? You need to check those stats again! If we are going to succeed, then we can't be afraid of someones 'contract year'. We lost this trade big time!
We weren’t going to Re-sign Diallo and got a pick. Not a loss or a win. Just a fair trade

dankrutka
03-13-2021, 11:12 PM
The Diallo trade is good. While I’ve loved to see his growth this season, I don’t see it worth hanging on to him while this team tries to build around SGA. It’s hard to succeed as a wing who can’t shoot. I wish nothing but the best for Hami.

Gear up, folks. Anyone on this team besides SGA and maybe Dort are could be traded. These last two games, the Thunder have shown they’re going to play all the young guys a ton to ensure they lose. It’ll likely be like this next season too. But the guys will still play hard. I’ve loved watching them.

OkiePoke
03-13-2021, 11:43 PM
SGA & Dort are the only two guaranteed not to be traded. Tank season coming hard.

Bellaboo
03-14-2021, 12:13 PM
Better shooter? You need to check those stats again! If we are going to succeed, then we can't be afraid of someones 'contract year'. We lost this trade big time!

I did before I posted, better than Hami in 2 out of 3 categories. 3 point percentage and free throws.

kukblue1
03-14-2021, 03:23 PM
Love Hami but he is a 29% 3 point shooter and don't see it getting any better. In today's NBA you have to be able to make a 3 or else they are not going to guard you which makes it easier to double team SGA.

Laramie
03-14-2021, 03:34 PM
Grizzlies 122 @ Thunder 128

Box score https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401307377



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XG0mD1OVSE

Laramie
03-14-2021, 03:49 PM
Mark Daigneault

https://e0.365dm.com/20/11/768x432/skysports-mark-daigneault-oklahoma-city-thunder_5168988.jpg?20201111163607

The Dagger Coach

https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/fetch/w_736,h_485,c_fill,g_auto,f_auto/https%3A%2F%2Fhoopshabit.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fgetty-images%2F2018%2F08%2F1295699306-850x560.jpeg

Poised to take Oklahoma City to new heights...

Bellaboo
03-14-2021, 09:37 PM
Set this one up to lose, but those young guys play lights out. Sat 4 of the 5 starters and still won against a full strength Memphis.

dankrutka
03-15-2021, 12:49 AM
I did before I posted, better than Hami in 2 out of 3 categories. 3 point percentage and free throws.

Uh, you might check again: https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?player_id2=diallha01&player_id1=mykhasv01&sum=0&request=1

Svi is a way better shooter than Hami. Having said that, I'm really not sure that the point here was to get Svi. Basically, I think the Thunder didn't think Hami fit the team's long term plans and traded him.


Set this one up to lose, but those young guys play lights out. Sat 4 of the 5 starters and still won against a full strength Memphis.

Presti and Coach Dag did everything they could to lose this one and this team willed it out. Fun to watch, but these wins could hurt the long term. Fun to see Poku have a good game:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjMNKwnB8cc

Bellaboo
03-16-2021, 08:01 AM
On 100 possessions the percentages for 2019 it's exactly what I said it was.

Uh, you might check again: https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_...um=0&request=1

Laramie
03-16-2021, 09:16 PM
Thunder 102 @ Bulls 123

Box score https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401307397

Laramie
03-16-2021, 09:41 PM
https://lockervision.nba.com/assets/uniform/Oklahoma%20City%20Thunder/OKC_IE_3_2.jpg



Thunder @ Hawks
Thursday, March 18
State Farm Arena, Atlanta
Fox Sports Oklahoma, 6:30 p.m.

https://lockervision.nba.com/assets/uniform/Atlanta%20Hawks/ATL_CE_2_3.jpg

dankrutka
03-16-2021, 10:32 PM
On 100 possessions the percentages for 2019 it's exactly what I said it was.

Uh, you might check again: https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_...um=0&request=1

Why look at a third of a season sample when you can look at their careers?

Bellaboo
03-17-2021, 04:19 PM
Why look at a third of a season sample when you can look at their careers?

Because you want to determine how good a player is excluding Rookie years. You want the information to be more current for value.