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Libbymin
06-28-2024, 02:48 PM
Somewhere south of Norman on I-35 seems like a pretty good bet to me.

Dustin
06-28-2024, 02:49 PM
Much less traffic than I-35 and I-40, and for the most part I-44 is a turnpike.

I mean you're not wrong. I'm just guessing.

EtanEiko
06-28-2024, 02:50 PM
I bet you anything, if they do build one here, it will be in or near Tulsa on I-44 somewhere.

I would guess either around Goldsby/ south Norman AND or west Yukon.

But yayy! Hope it just happens in general regardless of where (In the OKC Metro of course)

FighttheGoodFight
06-28-2024, 02:54 PM
Somewhere south of Norman on I-35 seems like a pretty good bet to me.

Agreed. Somewhere on the way from Purcell to Goldsby. They better have a good exit ramp. That one in Denton is always backed up for miles.

citywokchinesefood
06-28-2024, 02:59 PM
I mean you're not wrong. I'm just guessing.

I feel like Oklahoma could likely support one located on all three. One North or south of OKC on 35, one East or West of OKC on 40, and one NE of Tulsa on 44. In 10-20 years maybe 2-3 more in various areas with decent traffic volume.

EtanEiko
06-28-2024, 03:45 PM
I bet they do something similar to the Loves on I-40 and Radio rd

dankrutka
06-28-2024, 03:50 PM
Thoughts spewed from a mouth that's never tasted a beaver nugget.

I don’t get the popularity. Beaver Nuggets are basically Peanut Butter Captain Crunch. I tried it once and threw the bag away after eating a few.

citywokchinesefood
06-28-2024, 04:11 PM
I don’t get the popularity. Beaver Nuggets are basically Peanut Butter Captain Crunch. I tried it once and threw the bag away after eating a few.

Smoke a joint before hand and you will get different results.

BG918
06-28-2024, 04:32 PM
They would print money if they built one at the old Tanger outlet mall in Stroud

kevin lee
06-28-2024, 05:34 PM
It's amazing Kentucky just opened another Buc-ees this month, so they'll have at least two before Ok gets it's first one.

scottk
06-28-2024, 06:13 PM
I don’t get the popularity. Beaver Nuggets are basically Peanut Butter Captain Crunch. I tried it once and threw the bag away after eating a few.

As they had more locations, I imagine the novelty wears off. If there is one in south Norman/I-35, there is a lesser chance of our crew stopping at the one in Denton or Fort Worth on road trips to Texas. If we just need gas or restrooms, easier to pull off at a much smaller Loves or QT.

I think the draw is the giant store size and grass root marketing that is done by their loyal fan base.

scottk
06-28-2024, 06:20 PM
They would print money if they built one at the old Tanger outlet mall in Stroud

I don't think so.

Buc-ee's employees about 250 to 300 people per location. I don't know if Stroud can support that work force. with their population and probably older demography The majority of traffic on this route is OKC to Tulsa. It's 90 minutes or so gate to gate on the turnpike, there doesn't seem to be much of a reason to stop for gas and snacks 45 minutes into the trip. Outside of those traveling on the turnpike, there isn't a large base population to visit the store consistently. That's why my vote would be Norman/I-35 corridor.

If the theme park in Vinita really takes off and competes with numbers like Silver Dollar City in Branson, I could see one being built at that exit on I-44 halfway between Joplin and Tulsa.

traxx
06-28-2024, 07:05 PM
If we just need gas or restrooms, easier to pull off at a much smaller Loves or QT.
If you're stopping for restrooms, best to avoid Love's. They have some nasty restrooms.

Restrooms is the main reason I like buc ee's though. Super clean and no wait. Same with the pumps, no wait. All the other jazz, I can take or leave.

PhiAlpha
06-28-2024, 08:31 PM
I bet you anything, if they do build one here, it will be in or near Tulsa on I-44 somewhere.

a second location on the parking lot of the old stroud outlet mall would be awesome but I think I-35 between the border and Norman will be first.

G.Walker
06-29-2024, 12:03 AM
Rumors before COVID they were looking at something around the Goldsby exit near Riverwind. With that being said, most Buccee's are right outside a major population center. Between Shawnee and Oklahoma City makes a lot of sense as well.

scottk
06-29-2024, 08:48 AM
Rumors before COVID they were looking at something around the Goldsby exit near Riverwind. With that being said, most Buccee's are right outside a major population center. Between Shawnee and Oklahoma City makes a lot of sense as well.

Depending on when you start to car count, but it would appear the I-35 Norman/Moore/Goldsby route has a sizeable lead in traffic compared to I-40 east of the 240 split, and this was based upon 2018 stats, I imagine it's only gone up.

https://www.odot.org/maps/aadt/2018/UrbanMap_MetroAreas.pdf

formerly405Tulsan
06-29-2024, 09:09 AM
I bet you anything, if they do build one here, it will be in or near Tulsa on I-44 somewhere.
They have one already off I-44 in Springfield, so I doubt they put one a few hours away. It would just catch the same folks twice.

My guess is I-40 just east or west of okc.

rte66man
06-29-2024, 09:14 AM
Much less traffic than I-35 and I-40, and for the most part I-44 is a turnpike.

Pete, the fact that 44 is a turnpike is much less relevant with Plate Pay. Plus OTA is adding more exits. You no longer have to worry about having cash to pay when you get off at any exit.

In my perfect fantasy world, Buc-ee's would be the c-store when they build the new Stroud plaza

scottk
06-29-2024, 09:36 AM
Pete, the fact that 44 is a turnpike is much less relevant with Plate Pay. Plus OTA is adding more exits. You no longer have to worry about having cash to pay when you get off at any exit.

In my perfect fantasy world, Buc-ee's would be the c-store when they build the new Stroud plaza

My guess is the one in Springfield was built to grab Branson and Bass Pro tourists who of course travel to the area by car, and also Springfield is about 2.5 hours from St. Louis which is probably the ideal "stop-time" for a road trip pit stop and there isn't much in-between to stop at on I-44. Springfield being a metropolitan area also has a large enough work force to staff a Buc-ee's. The Tulsa to OKC gap is only 90 minutes.

In Texas, I can only find three Buc-ee's locations that are in what most would consider a rural area, Madisonville, TX, Luling, TX, and Bastrop TX, all of these locations are essentially halfway points between Houston and the other three metros of San Antonio, Dallas, and Austin.

Stroud/Turner Turnpike just seems to be a long shot. In 2023, that route averaged about 30,000 cars a day.
A Buc-ee's placed on I-35 south of Norman, average vehicle count would be between 75,000 to 90,000 cars daily.

Elrenogolf
06-29-2024, 09:56 AM
Is there any other Buc-ee’s located on a turnpike?

Bellaboo
06-29-2024, 10:02 AM
I-40 anywhere within 8 miles West of the interchange with the Kilpatrick.

Perfect place would be the Cimarron Rd exit, right there where OKC is annexing land or on the North side of I-40.

Jersey Boss
06-29-2024, 11:20 AM
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PhiAlpha
06-29-2024, 11:25 AM
Calling my shot. I-35 Ladd Rd exit. West of I-35, North of Ladd Rd.

jn1780
06-29-2024, 02:07 PM
What if they built it on Eastern north of 40/35? That let's them tap into two interstates.

Similar reasoning makes me think it won't be all the way in Norman or Yukon. They may want to limit a potential detour for diehard customers to less than 30 minutes.

Hear me out: Buc-ee's Crossroads. They can really play into that with marketing and still tap into 40 and 35 traffic.

PhiAlpha
06-29-2024, 03:00 PM
What if they built it on Eastern north of 40/35? That let's them tap into two interstates.

Similar reasoning makes me think it won't be all the way in Norman or Yukon. They may want to limit a potential detour for diehard customers to less than 30 minutes.

Hear me out: Buc-ee's Crossroads. They can really play into that with marketing and still tap into 40 and 35 traffic.

Makes sense but based on a lot of their other location decisions I think they’d be more likely to add a second location than split the difference…but what do I know? Crossroads does sound like a good idea. Hey we have a place called Crossroads that’s dying for higher and better use lol.

Brett
06-29-2024, 04:18 PM
As a pessimist, my first reaction to the news was that it is a grand hoax and Okies are still gullible to believe in it.

acumpton
06-29-2024, 08:08 PM
Agreed. Somewhere on the way from Purcell to Goldsby. They better have a good exit ramp. That one in Denton is always backed up for miles.

I agree. We went to the Madisonville location last week and it was so much smoother than going to the one in Denton. It was a real quick in and out.

ChrisHayes
06-30-2024, 07:07 AM
I still like the north side of 40 on Frisco Road for a Buccees. That, and a Home Depot

rte66man
06-30-2024, 07:36 AM
There are eight! Buc-ees in a diamond-shaped area that includes Angleton, Brazoria, Freeport, and Lake Jackson. I'm assuming that is the area where they started

MagzOK
06-30-2024, 07:51 AM
I could see them building along the new Access Oklahoma turnpikes in the metro once built. Maybe I-40 and Kickapoo, or SW corner of I-35 and the east-west connector turnpike. I can't help but think how big of a footprint these Buccee's properties are. But alas, it's interesting to look around the metro and the current traffic count maps to try and determine where they might look:

https://oklahoma.gov/content/dam/ok/en/odot/maps/aadt/state-metro-maps/OKC%20Metro.pdf

I'm sure a lot of the inflated numbers are commuters, but some of those counts are really high especially through Moore and Norman, LHP, I40 through the heart of the city, and 35 anywhere from about the Lake Aluma area north up through Edmond. But if you look at the edge of the metro maps of 35 and 40, traffic counts in and out of the metro are anywhere between 55-60K vehicles per day much of which could be considered through traffic.

NE corner of I35 and N 27th St in Moore, perhaps along that eastern service road stretch looks big enough. They could really compete with the new QT and eExpress there.

Do they look at thru traffic, commuter traffic, maybe both? There are counts on 35 there north of I240 at 125K vehicles, by far the highest in the metro.

I remember when they built the one in Melissa, TX. There literally was nothing out there at all and TxDOT was in the middle of widening 75 though there.

Mesta Parker
06-30-2024, 12:58 PM
There are eight! Buc-ees in a diamond-shaped area that includes Angleton, Brazoria, Freeport, and Lake Jackson. I'm assuming that is the area where they started

Yes, the original Buc-ees was in Lake Jackson.

kukblue1
06-30-2024, 02:05 PM
Anything being done with that land at council and i-40. That land just south of I-40. That is a pretty messed up area though. Sw 15th right off of 244. Close to 244/40 interchange. There are a bunch of places they could build something

G.Walker
06-30-2024, 05:37 PM
^ I was thinking that as well. That land on the other side of I-40 from the outlet mall would be an ideal location. Large enough area to build, no competing large gas stations in the immediate area. Large traffic counts.

davidreavis
07-01-2024, 06:06 AM
^ I was thinking that as well. That land on the other side of I-40 from the outlet mall would be an ideal location. Large enough area to build, no competing large gas stations in the immediate area. Large traffic counts.

I think the fact that it'll be the only gas station in the area wouldn't be too much of a difference, after all who is going to buc-ee's just for gas? Not me, that's for sure

kukblue1
07-01-2024, 10:41 AM
I think the fact that it'll be the only gas station in the area wouldn't be too much of a difference, after all who is going to buc-ee's just for gas? Not me, that's for sure

There is a giant Oncue just north of I-40 plus all the big gas stations on Morgan Road 2 miles away but like you said it's more a destination. You would get a good mix of locals and travelers being there. You are close enough to i-44 to get people drive a bit out of the way. Close enough to turnpike. However I would think they will want to be closer to I-35?

TornadoKegan
07-01-2024, 11:42 AM
What if they built it on Eastern north of 40/35? That let's them tap into two interstates.

Similar reasoning makes me think it won't be all the way in Norman or Yukon. They may want to limit a potential detour for diehard customers to less than 30 minutes.

Hear me out: Buc-ee's Crossroads. They can really play into that with marketing and still tap into 40 and 35 traffic.

I think it was already. Mentioned but the Eastern location isn't going to work

FighttheGoodFight
07-01-2024, 12:13 PM
I want to see those final numbers on the social media post that Pete did. Looks like 5.2k likes, 2.4k comments and 4.2k shares on Facebook about the Buc-ee's post. People love beaver nuggets

Pete
07-01-2024, 12:32 PM
I want to see those final numbers on the social media post that Pete did. Looks like 5.2k likes, 2.4k comments and 4.2k shares on Facebook about the Buc-ee's post. People love beaver nuggets

Got more traction than my Olympics posts!

Not really a fair comparison, but interesting nonetheless.

LakeEffect
07-01-2024, 03:30 PM
I don't think AADT plays fully into their analysis, but I'm sure it's important. My guess is that they'll target I-35 south of I-40 in OKC metro, looking at ODOT's numbers... Unfortunately, they don't have any traffic counts on I-44 where it's OTA-operated...

https://okdot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/Viewer/index.html?appid=a33b6aaa19674493bf42de11b250ef1b

The AADT for I-44 in Springfield, MO where its new Buc-ee's is located is around 44,000 total (east and westbound). That Buc-ee's looked insanely busy when we drove by twice this past weekend. It also is strategically located just east of the I-44 interchange with US-65, which goes south to Branson... https://www.modot.org/traffic-volume-maps

scottk
07-01-2024, 05:40 PM
Unfortunately, they don't have any traffic counts on I-44 where it's OTA-operated...

Here you go:

https://oklahoma.gov/ota/investor-relations/average-daily-traffic.html

Dob Hooligan
07-01-2024, 06:33 PM
These dudes ain't rubes. They have more advanced research that any of us can possibly imagine.

Zorba
07-02-2024, 10:52 PM
It's a dang gas station. I will never understand the fascination. I don't want to go inside either. It's just more time taken with crap i don't need. Get gas at the pump, leave. Mabye use the ATM if its a no sur-charage.

I will never understand the need for 50 pumps and 1/2 a walmart at a gas station.

If you are in the cult, man you've bought in and you'll buy the beaver gear/candy/etc. For those of us on the oustide.....just don't get it.

The bathrooms are great. Really I just enjoy the ridiculousness of it on a long road trip, but I generally only ever stop once on the way to where ever I am going. They do have really good popcorn and cherry sours, though. I have a T-Shirt, again, because I enjoy the ridiculousness of it. If we had one locally, I would literally never go to it.

Really I like the one in Ennis, TX because it is about half way to Galveston and I like the one in Leed, AL because when I am pulling my boat to the lake in Alabama I need gas by then and it always has the cheapest ethanol free gas around to fill up the boat. I get in and get out pretty quick though.

I personally wish they'd build one on the East of Little Rock and/or West Memphis. All of the options to stop in Arkansas are terrible and nasty.

Zorba
07-02-2024, 11:09 PM
My guess is the one in Springfield was built to grab Branson and Bass Pro tourists who of course travel to the area by car, and also Springfield is about 2.5 hours from St. Louis which is probably the ideal "stop-time" for a road trip pit stop and there isn't much in-between to stop at on I-44. Springfield being a metropolitan area also has a large enough work force to staff a Buc-ee's. The Tulsa to OKC gap is only 90 minutes.

In Texas, I can only find three Buc-ee's locations that are in what most would consider a rural area, Madisonville, TX, Luling, TX, and Bastrop TX, all of these locations are essentially halfway points between Houston and the other three metros of San Antonio, Dallas, and Austin.

Stroud/Turner Turnpike just seems to be a long shot. In 2023, that route averaged about 30,000 cars a day.
A Buc-ee's placed on I-35 south of Norman, average vehicle count would be between 75,000 to 90,000 cars daily.

Ennis is near Dallas, but is pretty rural. Heck it is home to the "Cowboy Church." Leeds, AL is also getting rural, but is still pretty close to Birmingham.

Pete
07-03-2024, 07:23 AM
Buc-ee's is eying another Southern state for a new travel center (https://www.chron.com/culture/article/bucees-store-oklahoma-19549128.php?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0yNHNruaCNQeKeAT4FSA3AD pkpcQebwBrOqiwmvg517v1dVRX9DkI3t8o_aem_w9AleztsJG6 pF5vIeDd6VA)
And it could be a new hotspot while traveling for the Red River Rivalry.
By Andrea Guzmán,
Texas Brands Reporter
July 1, 2024

Buc-ee's is aiming to expand to Oklahoma, a company spokesperson told KHOU. The travel center's presence in the Sooner State would bring yet another Buc-ee's to a state surrounding Texas, as the company has expanded to Colorado and Missouri and has plans to open stores in Arkansas, Louisiana and Arizona.

So perhaps someday, drivers going between Tulsa and Oklahoma City can stop for a brisket sandwich and a picture with the beaver statue. Or Buc-ee's could choose a spot just south of Oklahoma City so that students driving from Norman for the Red River Rivalry game can stock up on snacks before making the trek to the Cotton Bowl Stadium.

However, nothing is certain yet. Buc-ee's hasn't shared any other details about its plans in Oklahoma, so it's not clear which town they're eying for a new location or when the company would push ahead on construction.

But the Buc-ee's playbook often involves opening in smaller cities near a major metro area. With a population of more than 700,000, Oklahoma City is the 20th largest city in the U.S. and grew in 2023. So, it wouldn't be surprising if Buc-ee's chose to center its plans around the traffic it could net from people driving in and out of the state's capital.

When Buc-ee's eventually makes its way into Oklahoma, there's bound to be some locals who are already familiar with the beloved beaver store. Dallas is a popular road trip destination for many in Oklahoma, and the metro area has Buc-ee's stores in Denton and Hillsboro.

It's unlikely the coming Oklahoma Buc-ee's will be larger than 74,000 square feet, as Buc-ee's recently stated that its largest store model is reserved for the Lone Star State. So, Texans can rest easy knowing any Oklahoma Buc-ee's at least won't be as grand as the Buc-ee's locations in its home state.

bombermwc
07-03-2024, 07:58 AM
Well you can count out between Tulsa and OKC or OKC and Lawton. They won't get rights on the turnpike since that's already done, and who is going to want to pay to get off and back on the turnpike to go to a gas station. And the point made was that it would be at a smaller city near the metro. That's just not accessible on the turnpikes and you have to have that support infrastructure and employee base population to keep the thing going long-term.

If I were them, i'd be looking at Noble/Guthrie on 35 or El Reno/Newalla-ish on 40. Just outside of town for the cheaper large swath of land, but close enough that it's going to get support for what I mentioned above.

Denton is one of those exceptions where they put that sucker right in town. The one in Amarillo that's being built is in town (technically) but on the outskirts right before the town disappears. That's far more common than Denton.

Zuplar
07-03-2024, 08:00 AM
The bathrooms are great. Really I just enjoy the ridiculousness of it on a long road trip, but I generally only ever stop once on the way to where ever I am going. They do have really good popcorn and cherry sours, though. I have a T-Shirt, again, because I enjoy the ridiculousness of it. If we had one locally, I would literally never go to it.

Really I like the one in Ennis, TX because it is about half way to Galveston and I like the one in Leed, AL because when I am pulling my boat to the lake in Alabama I need gas by then and it always has the cheapest ethanol free gas around to fill up the boat. I get in and get out pretty quick though.

I personally wish they'd build one on the East of Little Rock and/or West Memphis. All of the options to stop in Arkansas are terrible and nasty.

I just stopped at the one in Ennis on my way to Galveston 3 weeks ago because of this very reason. It's easy, we can get food, gas, go to the bathroom, walk around for 30 minutes or so, then get back to the road trip.

I've always thought Buc-ees would probably be halfway between Dallas and OKC for this reason. It's such a great stop on road trips, so putting themselves halfway between 2 commonly travel destinations is a good idea. I'd bet that when they picked Ennis, TX they knew people from OKC metro would use it going to Houston/Galveston.

I had been on the Ardmore bandwagon, but i really question if they are too big, and maybe too close to the store in Denton. If you go halfway bewtween that store and OKC, you get a little further North near Springer, OK. it's a rural community, and there are already a couple interchanges near there for easy on/off I35. If I were a Buc-ees rep I think that has some potential for a location and would capture a lot of cars going to and from OKC to DFW.

traxx
07-03-2024, 11:56 AM
I'm thinking the Riverwind exit may be a prime place to put it. But that's just me playing a guessing game.

PhiAlpha
07-03-2024, 12:55 PM
Well you can count out between Tulsa and OKC or OKC and Lawton. They won't get rights on the turnpike since that's already done, and who is going to want to pay to get off and back on the turnpike to go to a gas station. And the point made was that it would be at a smaller city near the metro. That's just not accessible on the turnpikes and you have to have that support infrastructure and employee base population to keep the thing going long-term.

If I were them, i'd be looking at Noble/Guthrie on 35 or El Reno/Newalla-ish on 40. Just outside of town for the cheaper large swath of land, but close enough that it's going to get support for what I mentioned above.

Denton is one of those exceptions where they put that sucker right in town. The one in Amarillo that's being built is in town (technically) but on the outskirts right before the town disappears. That's far more common than Denton.

Considering that all tolls are paid by license plate or by pikepass now and that getting off and on isn't any different than any other highway, they'd probably get off to go to Buc-ee's and not a turnpike loves.

I take the Sapulpa exit all the time to go to the QuikTrip right next to the on/off ramp and judging by how packed it always is, I'm far from the only one.

PhiAlpha
07-03-2024, 01:08 PM
I'm thinking the Riverwind exit may be a prime place to put it. But that's just me playing a guessing game.

I bet it goes at or around the Ladd Rd exit a few miles to the south over Riverwind. Traffic can already get bad around the Riverwind exit but there's certainly space along the highway though to the south of the exit. The Goldsby exit could work but is set up kind of weird right now. The area around the Ladd Rd. exit is wide open, doesn't have a ton of traffic and fits the profile of where they've located a bunch of their stores just outside of the last suburb on the edge of metro areas.

I could see it being any of those three exits though before anywhere else in the state.

mugofbeer
07-03-2024, 01:53 PM
I bet it goes at or around the Ladd Rd exit a few miles to the south over Riverwind. Traffic can already get bad around the Riverwind exit but there's certainly space along the highway though to the south of the exit. The Goldsby exit could work but is set up kind of weird right now. The area around the Ladd Rd. exit is wide open, doesn't have a ton of traffic and fits the profile of where they've located a bunch of their stores just outside of the last suburb on the edge of metro areas.

I could see it being any of those three exits though before anywhere else in the state.

This is a unique spot l could see it going but aren't most of their locations near a decent sized community or an exurb of a large city?

I do put my $1 on l-35 between OKC and Dallas but l bet more towards just south of Norman or near Purcell.

PhiAlpha
07-03-2024, 02:00 PM
This is a unique spot l could see it going but aren't most of their locations near a decent sized community or an exurb of a large city?

I mean it’s 8-10 minutes south of the main st exit in Norman and 10 minutes north of Purcell. That seems to fit that criteria.

If the airport in Goldsby wants to sell some of their undeveloped land, there’s a spot right between both Goldsby exits that would fit it as well. That’s probably a minute or two closer.

mugofbeer
07-03-2024, 02:17 PM
You are correct. I was getting Riverwind and Winstar mixed up.

jn1780
07-03-2024, 02:46 PM
Considering that all tolls are paid by license plate or by pikepass now and that getting off and on isn't any different than any other highway, they'd probably get off to go to Buc-ee's and not a turnpike loves.

I take the Sapulpa exit all the time to go to the QuikTrip right next to the on/off ramp and judging by how packed it always is, I'm far from the only one.

Do they have any other location beside a turnpike? Texas has a head start with license plate billing.

bombermwc
07-03-2024, 02:53 PM
Considering that all tolls are paid by license plate or by pikepass now and that getting off and on isn't any different than any other highway, they'd probably get off to go to Buc-ee's and not a turnpike loves.

I take the Sapulpa exit all the time to go to the QuikTrip right next to the on/off ramp and judging by how packed it always is, I'm far from the only one.

Sapulpa would be like Yukon. You can get on/off an interstate without it being a turnpike OR you can get on the turnpike. But that's a little too "in town" (at least i think) for what they're looking for the price model. Now, i would love to see it rip out some of that horrible crap just off the Turner in Tulsa and revamp that depressed awful couple of miles of crap. Southhaven/SW 49th ish. But that's even that much more in-town that Sapulpa.

Just because you're paying by the plate, i dont think changes that you would still be paying to go off and back on the pike though if it were on 44. Keep in mind that there are also no frontage roads on the turnpikes. It would have to be right at the exit for one of the towns, say where the outlet mall used to be in Stroud.

I'm not going to say people won't do it because people are already crazy about their Buccees. Some folks, and well honestly maybe a lot of folks, may be willing to pay a few more dollars so they can fill up at Buccees. But if you're goin point to point, do you want that slow down? I mean i dont want to pay it or take that long. But i'm a fill at the pump and go kind of guy anyway. So Buccess lost me before they even tried.

PhiAlpha
07-03-2024, 03:31 PM
Sapulpa would be like Yukon. You can get on/off an interstate without it being a turnpike OR you can get on the turnpike. But that's a little too "in town" (at least i think) for what they're looking for the price model. Now, i would love to see it rip out some of that horrible crap just off the Turner in Tulsa and revamp that depressed awful couple of miles of crap. Southhaven/SW 49th ish. But that's even that much more in-town that Sapulpa.

Just because you're paying by the plate, i dont think changes that you would still be paying to go off and back on the pike though if it were on 44. Keep in mind that there are also no frontage roads on the turnpikes. It would have to be right at the exit for one of the towns, say where the outlet mall used to be in Stroud.

I'm not going to say people won't do it because people are already crazy about their Buccees. Some folks, and well honestly maybe a lot of folks, may be willing to pay a few more dollars so they can fill up at Buccees. But if you're goin point to point, do you want that slow down? I mean i dont want to pay it or take that long. But i'm a fill at the pump and go kind of guy anyway. So Buccess lost me before they even tried.

the quiktrip im thinking of is only accessible from the interstate if you’re on the turnpike. The turnpike starts a few miles east of that exit if coming from Tulsa.

I don’t think sapulpa is the best spot for it, just citing that as an example of people not minding leaving the turnpike.

the cost difference is $0.30 for pike pass or $1.30 for plates.

Zorba
07-03-2024, 07:13 PM
I just stopped at the one in Ennis on my way to Galveston 3 weeks ago because of this very reason. It's easy, we can get food, gas, go to the bathroom, walk around for 30 minutes or so, then get back to the road trip.

I've always thought Buc-ees would probably be halfway between Dallas and OKC for this reason. It's such a great stop on road trips, so putting themselves halfway between 2 commonly travel destinations is a good idea. I'd bet that when they picked Ennis, TX they knew people from OKC metro would use it going to Houston/Galveston.

I had been on the Ardmore bandwagon, but i really question if they are too big, and maybe too close to the store in Denton. If you go halfway bewtween that store and OKC, you get a little further North near Springer, OK. it's a rural community, and there are already a couple interchanges near there for easy on/off I35. If I were a Buc-ees rep I think that has some potential for a location and would capture a lot of cars going to and from OKC to DFW.

Yeah, I was really happy when they built the one in Ennis. The one in Madisonville was too far to make it without stopping first, and I rarely wanted to add an extra stop. Ennis is perfect, though. I usually stop at the QT in Ennis on the way home.

scottk
07-03-2024, 07:30 PM
Yeah, I was really happy when they built the one in Ennis. The one in Madisonville was too far to make it without stopping first, and I rarely wanted to add an extra stop. Ennis is perfect, though. I usually stop at the QT in Ennis on the way home.

Same with the one in Terrell on the east edge of DFW on I-20. Built strategically at the beginning of a long stretch of Interstate. When we travel east towards Shreveport and Jackson, we will bypass the Buc-ee's in Denton and try to make it all the way through DFW to Terrell for our first stop to gas up, grab food, and restrooms.

Jeepnokc
07-04-2024, 08:40 AM
The original goes up in flames.

https://www.kget.com/national-news/original-buc-ees-travel-center-heavily-damaged-in-fire/amp/

kukblue1
07-04-2024, 10:37 AM
Traveling to Indiana next week. How is the one in Springfield Mo? Do the roundabouts make it easier to get in and out or so much traffic it's makes it harder to get around them?

jn1780
07-04-2024, 11:18 AM
The original goes up in flames.

https://www.kget.com/national-news/original-buc-ees-travel-center-heavily-damaged-in-fire/amp/

Hmm, the old location goes up in flames a few weeks after closing. Did you still have an active insurance policy on that building Mr Bucee? Lol :)

I'm guessing contractors somehow caused a short while gutting the place.