What about OnCue building a Buc-ee's type place? They have to understand, though, that they can't just build a big gas station. It has to be done correctly. The restrooms have to be super clean, the place has to be we'll lit, it has to have good food, checkout must be quick. But if there's a market for it here, OnCue should build it.

What about OnCue building a Buc-ee's type place? They have to understand, though, that they can't just build a big gas station. It has to be done correctly. The restrooms have to be super clean, the place has to be we'll lit, it has to have good food, checkout must be quick. But if there's a market for it here, OnCue should build it.

Buc-ees may have that market cornered, and they have that segment with tremendous marketing to compliment the big store size. Amazing what a cartoon beaver has done for their brand recognition and loyalty.

Others like OnCue, QuikTrip, Loves could try, but I think it would be just a really big gas station, that just turns into another truck stop.

Also the staffing, fresh food offerings, number of pumps, and all the things that make a Buc-ee's challenger run would be quite the undertaking. I think their stores usually employee around 300 people?

Buc-ees may have that market cornered, and they have that segment with tremendous marketing to compliment the big store size. Amazing what a cartoon beaver has done for their brand recognition and loyalty.

Others like OnCue, QuikTrip, Loves could try, but I think it would be just a really big gas station, that just turns into another truck stop.

Also the staffing, fresh food offerings, number of pumps, and all the things that make a Buc-ee's challenger run would be quite the undertaking. I think their stores usually employee around 300 people?

Right, it's conceivable, but not likely. The huge store is Buc-ee's whole business model, isn't it? I'm only familiar with the ones I stop at through Texas, and they're all gigantic. Plus Love's, for example, caters to the truck drivers first and foremost, so they likely aren't interested in this kind of sprawling operation.

However, I didn't think we'd get a quality store like QT down in OKC ever, and OnCue has filled that void very nicely. So I guess never say never?

I Saw something on Reddit that might give an explanation to why Bucees hasn't opened shop in Oklahoma. It has to do with it being illegal to sell gas below wholesale price in Oklahoma.

the first one opened in Alabama near the gulf shores and they were selling it for under and it was against the law and they simply charged at cost. I don't think that's the deterrent.

Its probably a matter of just so much competition they are willing to take on. Gas is gas unless you happen to want some briskit and beaver nuggets, too.

Its probably a matter of just so much competition they are willing to take on. Gas is gas unless you happen to want some briskit and beaver nuggets, too.
There actually can be differences in the gas you buy.

There actually can be differences in the gas you buy.

Those sneaky Russians might have put ethanol in it!

https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2024/apr/03/buc-ees-off-i-30-in-benton-gains-momentum-with/

Would be embarrassing to have them go to Arkansas before Oklahoma. Having Springfield, Missouri get one before Oklahoma was tough, but this would be embarrassing.

I do not understand why they don’t have one between OKC and the Texas border.

Buc-ees may have that market cornered, and they have that segment with tremendous marketing to compliment the big store size. Amazing what a cartoon beaver has done for their brand recognition and loyalty.

Others like OnCue, QuikTrip, Loves could try, but I think it would be just a really big gas station, that just turns into another truck stop.

Also the staffing, fresh food offerings, number of pumps, and all the things that make a Buc-ee's challenger run would be quite the undertaking. I think their stores usually employee around 300 people?

To keep it from turning into another truck stop, you have to do what Buc-ees did and not allow trucks.

They may have a corner on the market in a place like DFW but they certainly don't in the OKC metro. Yeah, it'd be a big undertaking but it can certainly be done. I watched a little doc on youtube about Buc-ees and the owner talked about when he first decided to do a big store. They weren't certain about. Buc-ees hasn't always been huge stores. It was a risk.

To keep it from turning into another truck stop, you have to do what Buc-ees did and not allow trucks.

They may have a corner on the market in a place like DFW but they certainly don't in the OKC metro. Yeah, it'd be a big undertaking but it can certainly be done. I watched a little doc on youtube about Buc-ees and the owner talked about when he first decided to do a big store. They weren't certain about. Buc-ees hasn't always been huge stores. It was a risk.

I think part of what makes the Buc-ee's convenience store model successful is the marketing arm and that the store is just more than gas and snacks. The Buc-ee's logo reminds me a lot of the success of Eskimo Joe's and the popularity of the t-shirts and cups that everyone goes after. OnCue or QuikTrip could open a big store, but they would have to offer more than just snacks and quick eats.

Buc-ee's is essentially divided into four sections
-a souvenir shop (beaver branded merchandise on every item imaginable)
-gifts and collectibles (think mini Hobby Lobby with seasonal crafts, candles, etc)
-regular convenience store with fountain drinks, snacks, treats.
-speciality food items (BBQ, Jerky, Fudge, etc)

As for a location, the old Tanger site on I-44 could hold a Buc-ee's, but I don't think Stroud has enough of a work force to build there. As Plate Pay gets implemented, I would assume it could be easy off/easy on.

However, to get the work force needed, I think it higher likelihood to see a Buc-ee's being built along I-35 near Riverwind or I-40 and Frisco Rd west of Yukon. With one in Amarillo, TX and Springfield, MO, OKC is a good half way point to space out the brand, compared to Tulsa, and with I-35 and I-40, I would assume traffic counts would be higher than just I-44 and HWY 412 and 75 in Tulsa.

I wonder if somewhere along Reno across the river from OKANA is possible? There would certainly be a ton of work necessary to improve higher volume access and egress, but there does appear to be some undeveloped land in that area and locating it at the intersection of two major interstate highways seems like a pretty good plan.....

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I wonder if somewhere along Reno across the river from OKANA is possible? There would certainly be a ton of work necessary to improve higher volume access and egress, but there does appear to be some undeveloped land in that area and locating it at the intersection of two major interstate highways seems like a pretty good plan.....

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I think this makes the most sense and have thought about this as well. That's the only perfect small stretch that carries both I40 and I35 traffic. OKC/ODOT would need to redo the MLK exit there at least extending the exit ramp or something.

I think this makes the most sense and have thought about this as well. That's the only perfect small stretch that carries both I40 and I35 traffic. OKC/ODOT would need to redo the MLK exit there at least extending the exit ramp or something.

Too late. https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2023/07/20/okc-reno-avenue-tourist-corridor-okana-resort-renovations-plans/70421348007/

Too late. https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2023/07/20/okc-reno-avenue-tourist-corridor-okana-resort-renovations-plans/70421348007/

Well I'd love to know what the story is about, but I don't pay for that Oklahoman trash. :)

A story from June 2023 that says E-Express paid over $5 million for the property, is building a modern travel stop, dog park and multiple restaurants

^^ TYSM. :Smiley093

For what its worth, Austin and San Antonio don't even have a Buccee's yet. Now they do have one about halfway between the two metros, which makes the most sense. Putting one between Yukon and El Reno makes the most sense for Oklahoma. Next to Riverwind would be a close second, and then I would say between OKC and Shawnee.

To keep it from turning into another truck stop, you have to do what Buc-ees did and not allow trucks.

They may have a corner on the market in a place like DFW but they certainly don't in the OKC metro. Yeah, it'd be a big undertaking but it can certainly be done. I watched a little doc on youtube about Buc-ees and the owner talked about when he first decided to do a big store. They weren't certain about. Buc-ees hasn't always been huge stores. It was a risk.

Buc-ees’ first stores were in and around Lake Jackson, TX, in the early ‘80’s, where I lived for many years. They were standard convenience stores with a few gas pumps. Their first prepared food offering was breakfast tacos provided by a local vendor, which were delicious by the way. It took about ten years before the business took off and the large stores followed shorty thereafter. It is named Buc-ees after the founder, whose nickname is Beaver.

From the very first time I heard rumors about a possible Buc ees location near Riverwind I questioned the location. I've been to many locations and one thing that is obvious with every location is traffic and lots of it (for obvious reasons). There just aren't many locations in OK that have enough nearby interstate and/or turnpike lanes to flow enough traffic to meet their needs. The area that's always seemed the most obvious for me, if it were to ever happen, would be 35/44/Turner area, around where QT is building.

From the very first time I heard rumors about a possible Buc ees location near Riverwind I questioned the location. I've been to many locations and one thing that is obvious with every location is traffic and lots of it (for obvious reasons). There just aren't many locations in OK that have enough nearby interstate and/or turnpike lanes to flow enough traffic to meet their needs. The area that's always seemed the most obvious for me, if it were to ever happen, would be 35/44/Turner area, around where QT is building.

How about I 35- I 40 on Reno across the river from Okana? Talk about a double draw to the area.

How about I 35- I 40 on Reno across the river from Okana? Talk about a double draw to the area.

Check out post #136.

Check out post #136.

Oops. Hadn’t read the previous string very far. Sorry for being redundant.

Looks like Kansas City, KS is getting a Buc-ee’s out by the Kansas Sppedway.

https://flatlandkc.org/news-issues/buc-ees-picks-kansas-city-location-for-gargantuan-gas-station/

I'm just convinced Oklahoma will never get one. No sense getting my hopes up any longer.

Looks like Kansas City, KS is getting a Buc-ee’s out by the Kansas Sppedway.

https://flatlandkc.org/news-issues/buc-ees-picks-kansas-city-location-for-gargantuan-gas-station/

Just in time for the Chiefs and Royals to join them.

I'm just convinced Oklahoma will never get one. No sense getting my hopes up any longer.

Is there a weird law or policy on the books that makes Oklahoma less business friendly to Buc-ee's compared to Missouri or Arkansas...or Tennessee or Alabama? Do we have some obscure law that limits the number of gas pumps or selling of beaver nuggets on Sunday's?

Amarillo getting one because of Texas being the home market makes sense, but if Springfield Missouri can get one on I-44, you would think one at our interstate crossroads would get the same level, if not more foot traffic.

It's a privately held company based in Texas, it could literally be as simple as the owners trolling us by building one in every state but Oklahoma lol. I'm mostly joking but I'm also kind of not.

The owners determined Oklahoma is not a profitable market for their product. Pretty simple really.

The owners determined Oklahoma is not a profitable market for their product. Pretty simple really.
It may be simple but I'm not convinced that's the reason. It's a business built on interstate travelers. Oklahoma has 3 interstates converging in OKC with plenty of cross country travelers. Don't see how it couldn't be profitable.

I still think OnCue (or someone else) could build a similar concept in Oklahoma. OnCue pretty much copied QT because they saw an opportunity in the OKC market. QT didn't build in the OKC metro and 7-11 wasn't doing the job so OnCue filled that void. They could do it again with a buc-ee's style concept.

I'm just convinced Oklahoma will never get one. No sense getting my hopes up any longer.

Some guy in KS was probably saying the same thing a month ago.

I personally don't get it. Its a cool vacation destination in Texas to go to the bathroom at, but if there was one built down the street from me it wouldn't be special anymore.

I remember when people were talking about getting a Bass Pro or Cabela's. Now we have both and they are owned by the same company.

Is there a weird law or policy on the books that makes Oklahoma less business friendly to Buc-ee's compared to Missouri or Arkansas...or Tennessee or Alabama? Do we have some obscure law that limits the number of gas pumps or selling of beaver nuggets on Sunday's?

Amarillo getting one because of Texas being the home market makes sense, but if Springfield Missouri can get one on I-44, you would think one at our interstate crossroads would get the same level, if not more foot traffic.

Probably the "anti-price-gouging" selling below cost law.

Some guy in KS was probably saying the same thing a month ago.

I personally don't get it. Its a cool vacation destination in Texas to go to the bathroom at, but if there was one built down the street from me it wouldn't be special anymore.

I remember when people were talking about getting a Bass Pro or Cabela's. Now we have both and they are owned by the same company.

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I remember people on here talking about how okc will have made it when we get a Dave & Buster's. Since we've gotten one, I never hear it mentioned anymore.

Everybody wants what other cities have.

I've mentioned this before, but when Dunkin Donuts came to Southern California, people lined up around the block. And all I could think of was, 'We had those in OKC and I don't think I've ever been'.

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I remember people on here talking about how okc will have made it when we get a Dave & Buster's. Since we've gotten one, I never hear it mentioned anymore.

Yes but soon you can gamble at them so people might be going back!

The only thing I think I would go to a lot more if it came here versus going out of town would be Shake Shack. If we got an In N Out Burger, I would go to it on occasion. Maybe Eataly.

Everybody wants what other cities have.

I've mentioned this before, but when Dunkin Donuts came to Southern California, people lined up around the block. And all I could think of was, 'We had those in OKC and I don't think I've ever been'.
Same for Sonic. I remember when one opened in Ontario and it was hugely popular.

KHOU is reporting that Buccees is looking for land for a oklahoma location
https://www.khou.com/article/features/buc-ees-louisiana-oklahoma/285-2013b76a-a59c-4c5b-a22b-08fefd460c6a

It's a dang gas station. I will never understand the fascination. I don't want to go inside either. It's just more time taken with crap i don't need. Get gas at the pump, leave. Mabye use the ATM if its a no sur-charage.

I will never understand the need for 50 pumps and 1/2 a walmart at a gas station.

If you are in the cult, man you've bought in and you'll buy the beaver gear/candy/etc. For those of us on the oustide.....just don't get it.

It's a dang gas station. I will never understand the fascination. I don't want to go inside either. It's just more time taken with crap i don't need. Get gas at the pump, leave. Mabye use the ATM if its a no sur-charage.

I will never understand the need for 50 pumps and 1/2 a walmart at a gas station.

If you are in the cult, man you've bought in and you'll buy the beaver gear/candy/etc. For those of us on the oustide.....just don't get it.

While I understand there is some "gear" that I dont understand either but the fresh beef jerky selection is incredible. Plus the clean bathrooms that are above most others it makes a lot of sense.

It's a dang gas station. I will never understand the fascination. I don't want to go inside either. It's just more time taken with crap i don't need. Get gas at the pump, leave. Mabye use the ATM if its a no sur-charage.

I will never understand the need for 50 pumps and 1/2 a walmart at a gas station.

If you are in the cult, man you've bought in and you'll buy the beaver gear/candy/etc. For those of us on the oustide.....just don't get it.

One less car in the parking lot!

I like it as a travel stop kind of thing. Its nice as a final thing to do when we head back home from Dallas. Gas up, grab some lunch, grab some drink, maybe a snack, maybe a fun souvenir. Its not the only place you can do that, sure, but its bigger, nicer, and funner than other places.

As far as interest in getting one in OK, I think its the same as any other "cool" thing. We seem less "cool" if other states have it and we don't. As soon as we get it, people will suddenly care less about it and it'll be the lack of something else some other states has that makes us "uncool".

I like it as a travel stop kind of thing. Its nice as a final thing to do when we head back home from Dallas. Gas up, grab some lunch, grab some drink, maybe a snack, maybe a fun souvenir. Its not the only place you can do that, sure, but its bigger, nicer, and funner than other places.

As far as interest in getting one in OK, I think its the same as any other "cool" thing. We seem less "cool" if other states have it and we don't. As soon as we get it, people will suddenly care less about it and it'll be the lack of something else some other states has that makes us "uncool".

I'm with you, though it wouldn't be a terrible thing to hit one near the Oklahoma/Texas border to start the road trip when I drive down to Texas. For now, I'll stop at Love's until the first Buc-ee's.

It's a dang gas station. I will never understand the fascination. I don't want to go inside either. It's just more time taken with crap i don't need. Get gas at the pump, leave. Mabye use the ATM if its a no sur-charage.

I will never understand the need for 50 pumps and 1/2 a walmart at a gas station.

If you are in the cult, man you've bought in and you'll buy the beaver gear/candy/etc. For those of us on the oustide.....just don't get it.

I am not apart of the Bucees Cult. Only gone one time and didn't really enjoy it. Just reporting on the news

I like it as a travel stop kind of thing. Its nice as a final thing to do when we head back home from Dallas. Gas up, grab some lunch, grab some drink, maybe a snack, maybe a fun souvenir. Its not the only place you can do that, sure, but its bigger, nicer, and funner than other places.

As far as interest in getting one in OK, I think its the same as any other "cool" thing. We seem less "cool" if other states have it and we don't. As soon as we get it, people will suddenly care less about it and it'll be the lack of something else some other states has that makes us "uncool".

This right here. You're so right.

When you're traveling on a trip, it's a good stop. The restrooms are CLEAN and well designed. It's like the pumps on the outside, there are so many that there is no waiting. The last time I was in a Love's restroom, I didn't wanna touch anything.

It's nice to be able to pull into a pump and not have to wait or jockey with other motorists about who's going to get the pump next. They have a wide variety of food and it's good.

As far as being in a cult and buying the gear? That's a no-go for me. Just be a good, clean gas station with good service and good products. That's all I ask. And that seems to be too much at many places.

This right here. You're so right.

When you're traveling on a trip, it's a good stop. The restrooms are CLEAN and well designed. It's like the pumps on the outside, there are so many that there is no waiting. The last time I was in a Love's restroom, I didn't wanna touch anything.

It's nice to be able to pull into a pump and not have to wait or jockey with other motorists about who's going to get the pump next. They have a wide variety of food and it's good.

As far as being in a cult and buying the gear? That's a no-go for me. Just be a good, clean gas station with good service and good products. That's all I ask. And that seems to be too much at many places.

I’m no Buc-ees fan, but I had the unfortunate experience of stepping in one of the Turner Turnpike Love’s. I needed a shower after. The restrooms were filthy and the store wasn’t much better.

I’m no Buc-ees fan, but I had the unfortunate experience of stepping in one of the Turner Turnpike Love’s. I needed a shower after. The restrooms were filthy and the store wasn’t much better.

Which one? The new Love’s/McDonald’s on the Turner Turnoike heading toward Tulsa is one of the nicest gas stations I’ve been to. Modern, open design.

I'm surprised for a Love's. They aren't ever the fanciest places, but the restrooms are usually very clean.

I'm surprised for a Love's. They aren't ever the fanciest places, but the restrooms are usually very clean.

The one in Ardmore can get pretty bad. We stop there a couple times per month to/from Dallas.

Which one? The new Love’s/McDonald’s on the Turner Turnoike heading toward Tulsa is one of the nicest gas stations I’ve been to. Modern, open design.

The two between Chandler and Stroud along the turnpike. Both were disgusting.

For the first time, Buc-ee's confirms they are looking at Oklahoma:

Buc-ee's confirms they're working toward opening 2 sites in Louisiana | Oklahoma is also on their radar
Published: 2:09 PM CDT June 26, 2024

HOUSTON — As Buc-ee's continues to expand its empire beyond Texas, folks in two neighboring states hope to see those beaver billboards on their highways soon.

Anytime Buc-ee's buzz makes headlines, people pay attention. So we went straight to the source to confirm reports that plans are already in the works for stores in Louisiana. However, we're told they're not quite done deals yet.

"I can confirm that we are working diligently on two sites in Louisiana," Buc-ee's General Counsel Jeff Nadalo told us. "As soon as due diligence is complete, we hope to move forward with the projects."

The two sites being considered are Lafayette, off I-10 between Beaumont and New Orleans, and Ruston, off I-20 east of Shreveport.

The Lafayette location cleared its first big hurdle earlier this month when the board of zoning adjustment gave unanimous approval to plans for a 74,000-square-foot store on I-10 at Louisiana Avenue, the Acadiana Advocate reported. They said the target opening date is the 2025 holiday season.

According to KSLA in Shreveport, construction is set to begin sometime this year on the Ruston location and city leaders say they're on track to finish it by late 2025.

“I had no idea it would cause this much excitement, not just in Ruston but across the state,” Ruston Mayor Ronnie Walker said in April. “We’re excited because we’re finally to the point where the state and the city have come to an agreement on everything."

Buc-ee's also has its sights set on Oklahoma for future locations, Nadalo confirmed.

What's the big deal about Buc-ee's?
So what is it about the massive convenience store and gas station that always fuels excitement?

A lot of customers stop there for the large, clean bathrooms with countless stalls. Others love the beef jerky, barbecue and homemade fudge. And some people can't get enough of those sticky, sweet Beaver Nuggets.

For Mickey Boucher from Houston, it's the consistency of the Buc-ee's brand and the friendly employees.

“The thing is, hospitality has always been a passion that God has given me, and I really feel like Buc-ee’s does that really, really well,” Boucher said on June 10 after she drove to Luling for the grand opening of the world's biggest Buc-ee's. “We’re not the only ones hooping and hollering, they’re doing it, too."

She made the two-hour-plus trip from H-Town to be one of the first in line in Luling.

It's a dang gas station. I will never understand the fascination. I don't want to go inside either. It's just more time taken with crap i don't need. Get gas at the pump, leave. Mabye use the ATM if its a no sur-charage.

I will never understand the need for 50 pumps and 1/2 a walmart at a gas station.

If you are in the cult, man you've bought in and you'll buy the beaver gear/candy/etc. For those of us on the oustide.....just don't get it.

Thoughts spewed from a mouth that's never tasted a beaver nugget.

Ugh. Bring me IKEA.

Ugh. Bring me IKEA.

dude, for real.

My wife is from SA so we drive to South Texas and back A LOT. Buc -ee's is a literal circle of hell. Literally everything you hate most about going in to a Wal Mart somehow super concentrated in to half (somehow still seemingly half) the square footage and the parking lot replaced with leteral hundreds of gas pumps.

We'll be looking for a QT thank you, hell even a Loves. Bucees is obnoxious trash

Pete I feel like that post on social media is gonna blow up lol

Pete I feel like that post on social media is gonna blow up lol

People love their gas stations here!

Also, it's always the FOMO of wanting something that is popular elsewhere.

dude, for real.

My wife is from SA so we drive to South Texas and back A LOT. Buc -ee's is a literal circle of hell. Literally everything you hate most about going in to a Wal Mart somehow super concentrated in to half (somehow still seemingly half) the square footage and the parking lot replaced with leteral hundreds of gas pumps.

We'll be looking for a QT thank you, hell even a Loves. Bucees is obnoxious trash

If they weren't going to Buc-ee's they would be going to the QT or Loves. More choices is a good thing.

And some people can't get enough of those sticky, sweet Beaver Nuggets.

I'll take things that sound dirty but aren't for a thousand, Alex.

I bet you anything, if they do build one here, it will be in or near Tulsa on I-44 somewhere.

I bet you anything, if they do build one here, it will be in or near Tulsa on I-44 somewhere.

Much less traffic than I-35 and I-40, and for the most part I-44 is a turnpike.