non-big-ticket/non-chamber-fave items are expendable

especially if bike/ped/transit

Wait, you mean the credibility of future MAPS programs should be questioned? I thought that was a selling point at the voting booth.

Well, I think the larger issue is that there was only one resident from south OKC on the Maps 3 sub-committees and it showed. There were only two southside projects in Maps 3, both of which were held until the end of Maps 3. The city clearly has no plans to complete the AIrport (now Lariat Trail) since the funds were diverted.

Maps projects have almost exclusively benefited north of the river. South OKC is the Underfunded and Underserved District as a direct result of the continued neglect of the city officials.

At this point if the city would just mow along 240 regularly and clean up the trash, I'd be happy. It would at least be an improvement.

At this point if the city would just mow along 240 regularly and clean up the trash, I'd be happy. It would at least be an improvement.

Even when they do mow it leaves a lot to be desired. Calling the action center sometimes helps. Demanding more is the only way things will every improve.

Well, I think the larger issue is that there was only one resident from south OKC on the Maps 3 sub-committees and it showed. There were only two southside projects in Maps 3, both of which were held until the end of Maps 3. The city clearly has no plans to complete the AIrport (now Lariat Trail) since the funds were diverted.

Maps projects have almost exclusively benefited north of the river. South OKC is the Underfunded and Underserved District as a direct result of the continued neglect of the city officials.

Downtown projects are neither Northside or Southside. The idea that downtown is owned by the north is absurd and divisive. After we factor out the downtown projects, how were the projects split?

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Wonder when this hole on Katy trail will be fixed.

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Wonder when this hole on Katy trail will be fixed.

Have you asked the Action Center about it?

Have you asked the Action Center about it?

Note: The Katy Trail is closed for gas line repair. No time of completion is currently available.
From the OKC Trails website.

Wonder when this hole on Katy trail will be fixed.

Heck that's my favorite section of Katy Trail on my Trek MTB right now! ;)

Heck that's my favorite section of Katy Trail on my Trek MTB right now! ;)

Hah, at least those of us with road bikes, and of age, can walk around it!��

Note: The Katy Trail is closed for gas line repair. No time of completion is currently available.
From the OKC Trails website.

Yeah, but if you email the OKC Trails people, whoever they are, or open a case with the Action Center, you might get more information?

It's frustrating because they JUST repaved so it was all smooth and they're always terrible about paving repairs so there will be this one terrible spot for a decade. Happens on streets all the time.

Also, the first week it was like this it was impassable. When I did it last week you could go around it at least on the west side of the repair.

Yeah, but if you email the OKC Trails people, whoever they are, or open a case with the Action Center, you might get more information?

The Action line took my email and they will check into the Katy trail, and let me know….

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Lake Hefner

Saw a similarly completed mile market on the south river trail yesterday, so not sure what the pattern is as far as where they're working.

The Action line took my email and they will check into the Katy trail, and let me know….
Never heard anything, but the hole on Katy has been filled in, not sure about pavement. The rest of the trails now in good shape. rode the south1724617246 river trail to 10th and back, all good.

it's been filled in for a minute, but I suspect they won't get to the pavement until the spring

Mile markers are also installed on the North River Trail from where the Bricktown Canal enters the river all the way west to the I-44 crossing.

They are working on the North River trail expansion. They started ground work east of I 35, up to Eastern av

Makes me wonder if they were waiting on the interchange to finish. Starting on this trail the immediate next day after the final striping is interesting timing.

Photo of construction progress on the trail on the north side of the Ok River.

The n/s street is Eastern/MLK just north of the First Americans Museum.

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I ran the bit that goes from the Boathouse district to the point where it stops going east. A bridge is needed to connect the two sections. I am interested to see how this ties into the Katy Trail and the Eagle Lake Trail. Both of these trails are lovely but hard to get to from DT.

I ran the bit that goes from the Boathouse district to the point where it stops going east. A bridge is needed to connect the two sections. I am interested to see how this ties into the Katy Trail and the Eagle Lake Trail. Both of these trails are lovely but hard to get to from DT.

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More details for the river trail on the north bank:

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Thanks for the update, will be nice to connect all the parts. Now if the City could only fix some of the problems, the Katy trail hole, filled with dirt, but unpaved, with hard asphalt pinch points. On the west trail, the first bridge west of Meridian has sinking landings, more hard edges that could be fixed with some tar and asphalt. Further west, past Crystal lake another sinking landing on the bridge by the new drinking fountain.

I rode all the parts of the trail in this graphic that had concrete yesterday. In this marked up graphic, the parts with the Xs did not have concrete.

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Here is a video of the ride. Didn't turn on my camera until where the green arrow is in the graphic.

https://youtu.be/0fXNqbz4efY

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On Monday I noticed the Will Rogers Trail main sign was up (wasn't on Friday).

(it's been graffiti'd for months)

Graffiti makes me sick.

Graffiti makes me sick.

I find when I report these to the Action Center they usually get taken care of. Hope someone reports this. I just reported some other graffiti to the Action Center today (as well as some litter). I use the Action Center all the time and get good results--sometimes in just a day!

So the graffiti happened before the top part of the signage was added, within weeks of the bottom portion being built. I was hoping the city would see it when they installed the top part and then would take care of it, we'll see.

The connection of the River Trail to the Katy Trail continues:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/trails043022a.jpg

Money well spent

Since the trails were mentioned in the OKANA thread it reminded me to ask the following question about the new signage. I road my bike from Wheeler to Crystal Lake Saturday and noticed that the signs are merely mile markers for the trail that I was on. There is still no directional markers indicating that a new trail is coming up or that it is this far from this point to this point etc. The only way I knew that the trails connect is because I looked at the website and paid a lot of attention when the MAPs trails were being proposed. That is not very helpful if you are on the trail and don't know about the system. Just think of all of the visitors to our city that stay on the trails at Meridian. A few weeks ago I was on the North side of the River Trail and noticed there is still not a sign at May that indicates that the Will Rogers Trail links there if you turn north. There is a sign at the parking lot that indicates that you are on the Will Rogers Trail but that is not visible from the River Trail. The signs are lovely and should last a while but even a map that shows the entire system would be helpful. Please tell me that there is more to come.

I _think_ there's more to come with the current effort, but I also I just checked my MAPS4 handbook and there is definitely mention of wayfinding and signage

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I hope there is input from people who use the trails about the wayfinding. Thanks for the information shawnw

All maps meetings are open to the public, though, at least in my subcommittee meetings, members of the public rarely appear.

I must admit, I don't know when the meetings are. If I am available, I would love to come.

The connectivity subcommittee meeting (covers bike/ped/transit, which includes trails) is the first wednesday of the month at 1:30 at the embark conference room in the arts dist parking garage. Though we haven't talked about trails yet. Recommend keeping an eye on the agenda and showing up when topics to your liking are planned to be discussed.

I would if I could but I have a standing meetings every Wednesday at that time. Bummer.

The connectivity subcommittee meeting (covers bike/ped/transit, which includes trails) is the first wednesday of the month at 1:30 at the embark conference room in the arts dist parking garage. Though we haven't talked about trails yet. Recommend keeping an eye on the agenda and showing up when topics to your liking are planned to be discussed.

And that is why nearly no one shows up. Most of the world has to be at work and can't take off an entire afternoon for this.

I'm aware. I have to take off work once a month in order to be a citizen volunteer and be on the subcommittee...

The Deep Fork Creek trail extension at 4.2 miles funded by the Better Streets Initiative broke ground and should open by early 2023:


Construction began this week for one of the 13 trails included in the Better Streets program.

Deep Fork Trail begins on Grand Boulevard where the Katy Trail ends, just south of I-44 and Grand Boulevard, a quarter mile south of the National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum. The trail will continue west of the Deep Fork River over Western Avenue and under I-44, connecting to the Grand Boulevard Trail that currently ends on the ramp to westbound I-44.

The trail itself is going to be about 4.2 miles long.

“It is going to be the last segment of trail to complete an interloop around Oklahoma City that uses the Grand Boulevard Trail, Katy Trail, and the new connection of the Oklahoma City River trails that is being constructed right now,” Halff Associates Inc. Oklahoma Office Director of Planning and Landscaping Architecture Nate Clair said.

Once Deep Fork is complete, a loop will be made around the metro area.

The bids opened for it this week followed by construction expected to begin late this year or early 2023.

The bid includes a 12-foot multi-use concrete path with several pedestrian bridges that will cross the Deep Fork River, as well as additional trailhead access points with paved parking for trail access.

“It should take about a year for construction,” he said. "They are bidding it in multiple phases. How those come back will determine how much of the trail will be built.”

Clair said the idea for Deep Fork Trail began in 2018 and started as a segment of about three-quarters of a mile. It was part of the Transportation Alternatives Program with the Oklahoma Department of Transportation.

“What is really exciting about this corridor is its location. It really ties into the Adventure District. It passes by residential neighborhoods. It passes by multi-family housing,” Clair added.

“There is just opportunity, not only to be a recreational trail, but an active transportation corridor for a number of users.”

- https://www.velocityokc.com/blog/development/construction-begins-on-better-streets-trails/?back=super_blog

I failed to ever post pictures of it, but a fair stretch of the Deep Fork trail spur that connects over to Zachary Taylor Park broke ground and was built earlier in the year. It's open to walk on starting from the park going north but after a bit stops where I assume there will be a bridge going north out over the Deep Fork.

For reference here are the trail plans that were in a Community and Neighborhood Enhancement Advisory Board presentation from back in 2020, it's been two years but I assume the plans won't be particularly different. The completed stretch is in the Phase Four picture.

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Thank you for the maps. It is very helpful for me to make sense of all of this. Do you have any idea how many miles the entire loop will be when everything is done? Living at Wheeler, I like to bike the trails when the weather is nice. My body is only good for about 15miles on a bike. I see my Strava friends who ride 50+ miles at a time on roads that look dangerous to me and hopefully they can have a nice long ride that doesn't involve risking their lives.

Also, is there a route from River Trails to Stanley Draper?

Interesting, on the phase four map the BNSF RR is shown to be Kansas-Missouri. Hmmm.

Just wondering for those of us who hate riding a bicycle, and cannot walk far, can we ride or drive the trail in a road cart or other 2 wheel cart? It would be nice to be able to trailer down and ride it or for some who want to drive their horse.

With the increase in traffic in Edmond, its getting harder to ride the roads. I would like to have the option to ride or drive from my house as an alt. form of transportation. I used to when I lived just off downtown, ride downtown Edmond.

A lot of minor but interesting trail system updates from today's City Council meeting:
https://youtu.be/JF0RA7EunM4?t=5509

Specifically: creating new connections from the Katy Trail to local neighborhoods at 10th and 23rd, and an update on the Air Depot Trail

Press release:

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Construction underway on Deep Fork Greenway Trail
12/21/2022

Work began this month on a 4.3-mile Deep Fork Greenway Trail.

The trail will run between the Deep Fork River. It will connect the Katy Trail at NE Grand and I-44 to the North Grand Boulevard Trail at NW Grand and NW 63rd, completing a 24-mile trail system.

“Creating connections between trails is our priority right now,” said Oklahoma City Engineer Eric Wenger. “Once the trail is built, people will be able to safely ride their bikes or walk from northeast Oklahoma City to Lake Hefner, connecting people to jobs, parks and shopping.”

The $14 million multiuse trail is being funded through the Better Streets, Safer City program passed by residents in 2017 and the 2007 General Obligation Bond. It will be completed in three phases; two additional phases will be awarded at a later date. The trail is expected to open in spring 2024.

The ADA-compliant, multi-use trail is designed for two-way bicycle and pedestrian traffic.

The trails are part of the Oklahoma City trails system.

Noticed while driving on I-44 EB yesterday that some of the Deep Fork Trail looks to be uncomfortably close to the highway. Hoping that there are plans to put up good barriers in those stretches.

Update for the section at MLK/First Americans Way and the River: There was a crane over there yesterday and they were able to set a bridge that crosses over an inlet into the river. I think they have 1 more bridge to set over the western inlet/flood control. You can see this last section in Pete's picture above.

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With that bridge complete the only missing section for the city loop is from Grand and I-40 to Nichols Hills and theyre working on it already. very exciting stuff

Is there work underway for the “Canyon Park” area? It’s a little secluded in there so hard to see if it is. Mostly curious about the trail’s path under BNSF, through Lincoln, and over to Kelley, where work is underway nicely.

The trail system in the median of Grand Blvd, west of May, is getting a major revamp. It's being widened to accommodate more types of modes of exercise. I will still cycle in the street though, because the sidewalk is still not a straight shot. It's like City planning thinks they need to enforce cycling speeds at crossings, so they keep a slight jaunt at the street crossings...smh.

Do we know when the river trails east extension will open ?

The trail system in the median of Grand Blvd, west of May, is getting a major revamp. It's being widened to accommodate more types of modes of exercise. I will still cycle in the street though, because the sidewalk is still not a straight shot. It's like City planning thinks they need to enforce cycling speeds at crossings, so they keep a slight jaunt at the street crossings...smh.

When your post is the last one on the page...people miss information.

Do we know when the river trails east extension will open ?

The grand opening was a few weeks ago. I biked the extension on Labor Day. I really like the trail. The only complaint I have is that I didn't want to get back downtown by turning around once we got to the Katy trail intersection. The 4th street "trail" portion is just a sidewalk and share the road for bicyclists. Does anyone know if there are any plans to make this section a true trail?

The grand opening was a few weeks ago. I biked the extension on Labor Day. I really like the trail. The only complaint I have is that I didn't want to get back downtown by turning around once we got to the Katy trail intersection. The 4th street "trail" portion is just a sidewalk and share the road for bicyclists. Does anyone know if there are any plans to make this section a true trail?

There are plans for bike lanes on 4th street pretty soon but this first phase will only reach Lottie. Try out NW 16th next time! Its much more friendlier to bicyclists in that it is only 2 lanes and signed at 30 MPH and has an underpass for I-235

Thanks for the suggestion. I will try to remember that the next time I go for a ride that way.
When you say bike lanes to Lottie, is that from the east of downtown or from the west of the Katy Trail?