Duplicate post.

For perspective, I just read an AP story in the Oklahoman. Oklahoma has now had more COVID-19 cases than the entire nation of Japan.

From the article: "Nationwide, Japan had 775 new confirmed cases Wednesday, the largest daily increase since 720 on April 11 during an earlier peak, for a national total of 27,029 cases."

For perspective, I just read an AP story in the Oklahoman. Oklahoma has now had more COVID-19 cases than the entire nation of Japan.

From the article: "Nationwide, Japan had 775 new confirmed cases Wednesday, the largest daily increase since 720 on April 11 during an earlier peak, for a national total of 27,029 cases."

And Japan has about 30 times the population of OK. :doh:

For perspective, I just read an AP story in the Oklahoman. Oklahoma has now had more COVID-19 cases than the entire nation of Japan.

From the article: "Nationwide, Japan had 775 new confirmed cases Wednesday, the largest daily increase since 720 on April 11 during an earlier peak, for a national total of 27,029 cases."

Also, Oklahoma has 2x the amount of cases of South Korea now. The population is 50+ million and it is incredibly dense. This blows my mind because early on, they had the most cases (excluding China) of any country at the time. I remember thinking "it is out of control there" and didn't think we'd ever see those numbers in America. They're currently sitting just under 14,000 cases with 12,500+ recovered.

I was in Japan and Korea late last year (pre-pandemic). While most people weren't wearing masks back then, I'd say maybe 20-25% were wearing them. I admired the collective care and attitudes I experienced in both countries. We really need to follow their lead because it seems like they've done a good job at containing it.

I was in Japan and Korea late last year (pre-pandemic). While most people weren't wearing masks back then, I'd say maybe 20-25% were wearing them. I admired the collective care and attitudes I experienced in both countries. We really need to follow their lead because it seems like they've done a good job at containing it.They as a people don’t have the “Nothing matters but me” philosophy that is turning out to be way more prevalent here than I ever thought it was. I’ve learned a lot through this virus. This attitude will make getting over this virus in the US exceedingly difficult.

Assuming the numbers on the OK County website are now accurate (they appear to have been updated from their obviously inaccurate lows), a glimmer of local good news is that OK County cases seem to have dropped quicker than the statewide numbers the last few days. Still not where we need to be but it is an improvement, which will hopefully be further improved by the mask ordinance.

https://occhd2.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/2c0fbe6497004e098cdb9678f4d33cc9

The last hour might he been the scariest for me since this whole COVID crap started. After our 40th HS reunion a few years ago I started a FB group for people I went to grade school with in the 60s. A thread started in the group about the conspiracy theory of this virus thing being a way to create a cashless society. OMG! Within a few hours the thread blew up with my friends and their friends posting all of their beliefs that there is no virus and it’s just the government, banks, media, etc. trying to take complete control of everyone’s lives. So many of these friends are highly educated and in fairly high level professional positions in the companies they work for. And they believe in the conspiracy theories! I’m starting to think we, as a country, are in for a long road of **** because of the sheer number of people who just don’t get it or believe it.

It surely means there are still many, many people who still don't know of anyone who got very sick with covid, much less anybody who died from it. That includes me, but I don't have a huge number of friends and relatives to keep tabs with. But I take the virus seriously from hearing horror stories about it on the media. Probably too many people think they're fake stories, though. High profile people, such as Gov. Stitt, who don't get very sick and quickly recover don't help in taking it seriously.

I didn't really know anyone who got really sick until...

Just yesterday I saw my elderly lady neighbor out walking her dog. I used to see her almost every day but it occurred to me I hadn't seen her in quite a while.

Turns out she had been very sick with Covid-19 and in the hospital for quite a while.

Her whole body was so copromised that she now has serious heart issues and has to wear a difibulator around her neck; can't walk nearly as far or often as before.


Just a horribly sad situation. She's all alone (apart from her dog) and will never be the same again.

I didn't really know anyone who got really sick until...

Just yesterday I saw my elderly lady neighbor out walking her dog. I used to see her almost every day but it occurred to me I hadn't seen her in quite a while.

Turns out she had been very sick with Covid-19 and in the hospital for quite a while.

Her whole body was so copromised that she now has serious heart issues and has to wear a difibulator around her neck; can't walk nearly as far or often as before.

Just a horribly sad situation. She's all alone (apart from her dog) and will never be the same again.

Good lord... it's like we are living in two worlds. I don't understand why people like to act like it is all fake and the numbers are a lie or something. I've often heard similar sentiments to what Brad Pascale (recently fired Trump campaign lead) is pushing today. Not intending to make this a political discussion, but I'm curious, why does this narrative keep getting pushed? I've seen similar fake news posts on Facebook claiming something along the lines of "Once the Trump Admin got hands on the Florida Covid 19 data, it showed they lied about 80,000 Covid cases"

Is there any truth to any of this that we know of?

https://i.imgur.com/38SuoTj.jpg?1

Within 1 hour, 10,000 likes and 6,000 retweets.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Russian trolls are behind some of these rumors. Getting Americans politicized over a virus response, apparently, has been pretty effective at getting americans killed.

In my complaints about the Edmond council and their resistance to enact any sort of mask ordinance, I had avoided trying to sound ageist, but one of the things I noticed was the age/race divide on the mask stance. The two main opposition to any mask mandates in Edmond are the two 72 year old white men, and one of those is the mayor. And if you've heard either men talk about mask mandates, well, they're the ones who think the anti-mask folks have good points when they say the mask poisons you with CO2. For comparison, my father was a councilman in Edmond in the 80's and if he was still alive he still wouldn't be in his 70's yet. The mayor at the time was Carl Reherman, who was in his 40s. In fact, from what I recall most or all of the council was younger then. I've got to imagine if the makeup was similar today, Edmond might already have a mask mandate.

Edmond is the no. 3 city for most number of cases and ahead of Norman, yet, still no required masks. Are Edmond hospitals not full?

I would like to see more detailed numbers for OKC and the State. I saw Tulsa did release some. How many of the 630 in the Hospitals are under the age of 50? What is the age in OKC of people infected?

I found out yesterday one of my friends tested positive late last week. Thought he had a sinus infection. Doctor tested him. Wife feels fine and hasn't gotten test results yet. That make the third person I personally know, but the first in the metro. He lives in Yukon, has a retail store in Edmond. The other two live in CO and CA. One recovered fairly quickly. The other one has been ill for weeks.

Rather interesting flex: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article?fbclid=IwAR3ASxBUrRE5LHeZsZF-iHrpTuX2PprS8FnkKGUpEUDEIAnH6s5wQOpkOJI

The Constitution doesn’t have a problem with mask mandates (https://theconversation.com/the-constitution-doesnt-have-a-problem-with-mask-mandates-142335)

Rather interesting flex: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article?fbclid=IwAR3ASxBUrRE5LHeZsZF-iHrpTuX2PprS8FnkKGUpEUDEIAnH6s5wQOpkOJI

That’s about influenza, not COVID-19. Completely different viruses. The vast, vast, vast evidence out there proves that masks do help prevent COVID-19 transmission. Here is but a sampling:


https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001737

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818


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I would like to see more detailed numbers for OKC and the State. I saw Tulsa did release some. How many of the 630 in the Hospitals are under the age of 50? What is the age in OKC of people infected?

I read today that 34% of hospitalizations in Oklahoma are for people under 50.

This thing is really decelerating. Apparently it doesn’t enjoy our warm summers.

Bwahahaha! How did I miss this nugget?

We had better get this thing somewhat under control before the real cold and flu season, otherise things are going to get way, way worse.

We had better get this thing somewhat under control before the real cold and flu season, otherise things are going to get way, way worse.

Stitt isn't going to do anything.

It’ll be alright.

I read today that 34% of hospitalizations in Oklahoma are for people under 50.It also seems that there are more news stories of younger people having serious cases.

Apologies if this has already been mentioned in this thread but we apparently went from 3 million to 4 million cases as a country in the last 15 days. By comparison, it took us 99 days to get to 1 million cases, 43 days to go from 1 million to 2 million, and 28 days to go from 2 million to 3 million cases. Scary to think of how quick this thing is picking up steam.

It also seems that there are more news stories of younger people having serious cases.

I’m not necessarily disagreeing with this, but you have to be careful what you interpret from the news. It seems like the media has really pushed stories of younger people struggling with this disease as well as stories of old old people who have had few issues with it.

I just noticed that the school board is not mandating masks in schools. It will only be a strong suggestion...whatever that means. We’re in trouble when school start back because of our gutless leaders.

It also seems that there are more news stories of younger people having serious cases.

The young person in my family is definitely suffering serious issues. Not hospitalized yet, fortunately.

I just noticed that the school board is not mandating masks in schools. It will only be a strong suggestion...whatever that means. We’re in trouble when school start back because of our gutless leaders.
At least OKC isn’t going to be in classrooms for 14 weeks. A lot can change in that length of time.

I believe all the bigger school districts have mandated masks for kids over 10 already?

I believe I saw that was the case for Norman, Edmond but not sure about OKC since they just pushed back the start.

I believe all the bigger school districts have mandated masks for kids over 10 already?

I believe I saw that was the case for Norman, Edmond but not sure about OKC since they just pushed back the start.
The news story about OKC moving the start date does say masks will be provided to students but not mandatory. Staff and visitors will be mandatory. Makes no sense to me.

Apologies if this has already been mentioned in this thread but we apparently went from 3 million to 4 million cases as a country in the last 15 days. By comparison, it took us 99 days to get to 1 million cases, 43 days to go from 1 million to 2 million, and 28 days to go from 2 million to 3 million cases. Scary to think of how quick this thing is picking up steam.

Now Strain much easier to transmit. They don't think it's any more deadly which is a good thing but transmits easily .

The news story about OKC moving the start date does say masks will be provided to students but not mandatory. Staff and visitors will be mandatory. Makes no sense to me.

I will be surprised if they reopen before next spring. Also, the State Superintendent indicated she would require masks in all schools that open.

We had better get this thing somewhat under control before the real cold and flu season, otherise things are going to get way, way worse.

Real ugly. Like I posted earlier your going to have the people going to work cause they think it's a hoax and just the flu. Then your going to have the people lining up at the hospitals and clinics to get tested to see if it's either the flu or Covid. It will be really bad. Any little sore throat or stuffy nose and people are going to freak out and frankly I don't blame them.

I've been following this thread for awhile but haven't posted yet. I appreciate the tons of great info here posted by many. My wife and I have been taking it more serious that most but there are still an alarming number of people who aren't obviously.

I know a handful of people now firsthand who have gotten it and I also know a couple people in the same family that have now gotten it twice. March and just recently. The person I personally know didn't have any issues the first time but got hit harder this time. Likely different strain. I just thought I would share as it's really alarming that one can catch it twice in 4 months and have a totally different experience.

We had better get this thing somewhat under control before the real cold and flu season, otherise things are going to get way, way worse.

Ya... I have a feeling we haven't seen the worst of this yet. Schools re-opening presents an additional transmission vector, regardless of how many precautions schools do or don't take, and even if kids spread at a significantly reduced rate, consider:

-680,000 students. (Pre-K to 12th)
-42,000 teachers
-1,800 schools
~2,300 support staff (Estimated count, feels too low)

All of these people haven't been reporting to a common building for ~8 hours/day over the last ~4 months. SOME level, hopefully minimal, of community spread will occur. I know many schools are giving online options, but even if half of these people start reporting to school, I still feel like schools present countless opportunities to spread.

All of this among rising case counts, rising death tolls, a rising backlog in pending cases, hospitals stressed, and no real escape plan from the state.

If cases accelerate after the first 6 weeks of school, that puts us in a REALLY bad place going in to fall/winter cold & flue season.

Trust me, I understand the dire need to have kids in school.... I Just don't even know what to make of this whole situation. One of those times I'm glad I never became a parent.

Of course, the silver lining here is that enough seniors die because of this, maybe there WILL be some Social Security left over for Millennials?

https://mobile.twitter.com/GeorgeMonks11/status/1286291843383267328



George Monks
@GeorgeMonks11
Yesterday,a pt sick with COVID was in an ER at 830am in need of a hospital bed.Unfortunately,the current crisis has brought us to the point that it took until after 530pm before the one and only bed in the entire Tulsa metro area became available. We are at the end of the runway.

Channel 4 just said Mike Morgan older sister passed today in Tulsa from Covid. This crap is real people.

Channel 4 just said Mike Morgan older sister passed today in Tulsa from Covid. This crap is real people.

If anyone tells me it's not real in person I may punch them in the face.

I've been following this thread for awhile but haven't posted yet. I appreciate the tons of great info here posted by many. My wife and I have been taking it more serious that most but there are still an alarming number of people who aren't obviously.

I know a handful of people now firsthand who have gotten it and I also know a couple people in the same family that have now gotten it twice. March and just recently. The person I personally know didn't have any issues the first time but got hit harder this time. Likely different strain. I just thought I would share as it's really alarming that one can catch it twice in 4 months and have a totally different experience.
This is why I’m still a mask wearing, hand washing, disinfectant wiping, hand sanitizing nutcase. Even though I had it in March. I was happily amazed that I had a very mild case. Even as a 61 year old that needs to drop 40 pounds, is on blood pressure and cholesterol meds and was told last annual exam I’m heading towards diabetic if I don’t start eating much better. I’m afraid that if I can get it a second time I wouldn’t be so lucky.

If anyone tells me it's not real in person I may punch them in the face.
It would be hard not to.

I know a handful of people now firsthand who have gotten it and I also know a couple people in the same family that have now gotten it twice. March and just recently. The person I personally know didn't have any issues the first time but got hit harder this time. Likely different strain. I just thought I would share as it's really alarming that one can catch it twice in 4 months and have a totally different experience.

While it’s possible someone could get COVID twice, most experts seem to think it’s extremely unlikely. There are likely other explanations for people who believe they’ve had it twice. Fortunately, I don’t believe any experts believe there are different strains with different antibodies spreading.

If anyone tells me it's not real in person I may punch them in the face.

If I was on that jury I'd find justified self defense. That much stupid could be deadly.

While it’s possible someone could get COVID twice, most experts seem to think it’s extremely unlikely. There are likely other explanations for people who believe they’ve had it twice. Fortunately, I don’t believe any experts believe there are different strains with different antibodies spreading.I have really mixed feelings on this. Somewhat based on the research that seems to show that some cases lose antibodies very quickly. If so I could see the possibility of them getting infected again. But who knows. Then there’s me. I had minor symptoms in mid-March. I’m actually really sure I was exposed by a guy coughing his head off at the table next to us at Twin Peaks the night of the postponed Thunder-Jazz game. March 11. And last week I still tested very high for antibodies. 4 months later. This is a really odd virus. It could be that I’m 0-Positive which seem to matter. I also eat/take all kinds of foods/supplements that are supposed to build immunity ever since having both hips replaced in Aug of 2018 and being advised that them getting infected would be very, very bad. Then again maybe it’s just genetics.

https://www.facebook.com/KalamazooCountyHCS/videos/596028587949228/?t=5 WEAR A MASK

We had better get this thing somewhat under control before the real cold and flu season, otherise things are going to get way, way worse.

Influenza vaccine will start being distributed in late August in several states. Not sure when our health department gets first shipment.

I'd point out that in addition to the many working on the Covid vaccine, they are also still doing their annual work to match vectors for the influenza strains. It's really amazing work when you stop and think about it.

Real ugly. Like I posted earlier your going to have the people going to work cause they think it's a hoax and just the flu. Then your going to have the people lining up at the hospitals and clinics to get tested to see if it's either the flu or Covid. It will be really bad. Any little sore throat or stuffy nose and people are going to freak out and frankly I don't blame them.
I'd only freak out if I also had a fever of over 100. That happened over 10 years ago from having strep throat. Hadn't been so miserably sick since then. If only it was strep throat going around, since it's easy and quick to cure with antibiotics.

I've been following this thread for awhile but haven't posted yet. I appreciate the tons of great info here posted by many. My wife and I have been taking it more serious that most but there are still an alarming number of people who aren't obviously.

I know a handful of people now firsthand who have gotten it and I also know a couple people in the same family that have now gotten it twice. March and just recently. The person I personally know didn't have any issues the first time but got hit harder this time. Likely different strain. I just thought I would share as it's really alarming that one can catch it twice in 4 months and have a totally different experience.

WOW. Did they seldom if ever wear masks? With cases still way up, I can't help but wonder if masks are working to a decent extent.

These are confirmed positive tests both times. Also happened to her brother both times and they lost a grandparent the first go around.

I meant to quote a reply from a few posts up on this.

WOW. Did they seldom if ever wear masks? With cases still way up, I can't help but wonder if masks are working to a decent extent.

I don't think anyone was the first go around and this was really early on before the lockdown even. I'm not certain about this time to be honest.

I was in Lowes yesterday evening wearing my mask, in lawn and garden to purchase a new bump head for my weed wacker, when a man with no mask came on the isle to look at leaf blowers. As he stood behind me he let out a big open sneeze, no attempt at coverage or anything. He was standing with his back to me, but I still quickly took a few side steps away. … Head Shaker!

I was in Lowes yesterday evening wearing my mask, in lawn and garden to purchase a new bump head for my weed wacker, when a man with no mask came on the isle to look at leaf blowers. As he stood behind me he let out a big open sneeze, no attempt at coverage or anything. He was standing with his back to me, but I still quickly took a few side steps away. … Head Shaker!

Why didn't you get the manager instead of just stepping away?

nm, should be in political thread.

1,147+ new cases. SMH.

Is it serious enough that cities and the state can finally take the actions they should? Probably not.

1100+ new cases. SMH.

And 7 new deaths. We need a shelter in place mandate immediately but it's never going to happen and we're never going to end this or at least get it under control

1,147+ new cases. SMH.

Is it serious enough that cities and the state can finally take the actions they should? Probably not.

They haven't released the #'s for today.

I think you are going off the dashboard which is all messed up.

Edited as Pete's post beat me to it.

But as some additional color - there were 28,802 positives as of yesterday. The dashboard showed 27,xxx yesterday and the increase is based on that incorrect figure and a new (presumably incorrect) figure of 29,116. The banner at the top of the webpage has been showing the correct number as has the email updates.

They haven't released the #'s for today.

I think you are going off the dashboard which is all messed up.

I went off the news actually, but I'll assume you're correct that they're pulling it from the dashboard.

I don't want to be overly critical, but do other states have this degree of issues in simply reporting the new numbers? The headline banner says one thing, the dashboard total says another, and the daily increase number implies yet another. It's so frustrating to have conflicting, messed up data everywhere and makes this even harder to track and weakens the public's confidence in the official numbers.

Just got the update email that says there were only 314 new cases.

7 more people have died.


No idea if these numbers are accurate because last time they dropped so much there was a data reporting error.

I don't want to be overly critical, but do other states have this degree of issues in simply reporting the new numbers? The headline banner says one thing, the dashboard total says another, and the daily increase number implies yet another. It's so frustrating to have conflicting, messed up data everywhere and makes this even harder to track and weakens the public's confidence in the official numbers.

yes some states are much worse at reporting

Just got the update email that says there were only 314 new cases.

7 more people have died.


No idea if these numbers are accurate because last time they dropped so much there was a data reporting error.

Reaaaally not liking how spotty the data is this week. This is a crucial week to determine if we are still accelerating towards an Arizona/Texas like outcome or are able to plateau at a still-high-yet-manageable level.