Um, because it's a public health *emergency*? And that there's absolutely no way the so-called "Action Line" will actually take any action, much less in a timely manner. Seriously, at 5 PM, there are 10 maskholes in a store, and I text the Action Line, and 5 days later, they respond with some BS message that says "didn't find anything here that needed fixing" - what's the point? The OKC mask ordinance is completely toothless, it's all still voluntary, and yeah, it's resulting in increased compliance for now, we'll see how it's going in a week or so. Gonna be a moot point by 9/8, though, so why even give a ****, it's all going to start going to hell again then, I'll bet, if OKC reopens things more and no masks are required.

The law has teeth, but it requires the businesses to make it work. I think they're really trying to avoid having the police initiating contact with folks. The businesses can ask them to put on a mask or leave, and at that point, if the people refuse, they call the police and the police respond to a trespass complaint. I can understand the concerns with the police initiating the contact or responding to a mask only complaint. It's a rough balance, especially at a time that we're more aware than ever of police abuses in the system. I don't know that we need police going around to random people who don't have masks, and then getting their ID (which they need to issue a ticket) and checking for outstanding warrants or legal immigration status or anything else. I sort of put it with seat belt laws, in the places where they're considered a secondary offense. The law is still valid, and it gets enforced. But the average person can't just call in and tell the police someone is driving without a seat belt nor can the police initiate contact because of it. I feel like if a business is refusing to enforce it, and people do complain, when they visit to inspect that'll probably send a signal to the business to be more proactive.

This isn't perfect but it's seemed to have been effective so far.

I got tested this morning in Guthrie as they were the only testing site that could schedule me the next day. I haven't been feeling bad except for a swollen and tender gland on the left side of my neck. It's never happened to me before. I got swabbed at the doctors office for strep which came back negative, so it was recommended that I get tested for covid.

My doctor told me to quarantine until my results came back, but who knows when that will be now...

Has anyone been tested recently? When did you get your results back?

Has anyone been tested recently? When did you get your results back?


got tested for both last wednesday, got an email on monday of my results

got tested for both last wednesday, got an email on monday of my results

We got tested a 3 weeks ago at CVS, and it took 9 days to get back.

Did they mention during the press conference there would be no Executive Order Report published today? Not seeing it on the website as of 7:45PM.

Did they mention during the press conference there would be no Executive Order Report published today? Not seeing it on the website as of 7:45PM.

you must have just missed it... it's up now.

I'd bet the latter, hope they aren't using the same team that's working on the HHS website (is it still missing pieces of info, I haven't seen any stories in the past couple of days?).

They announced the new dashboard yesterday and today reports are that the data they were missing from the CDC site is back.

https://mobile.twitter.com/rypan/status/1285603244543279105

It can still be improved because there is tons of data being collected and not sure if all of it is already available (at least in easily digestible form.

I got tested this morning in Guthrie as they were the only testing site that could schedule me the next day. I haven't been feeling bad except for a swollen and tender gland on the left side of my neck. It's never happened to me before. I got swabbed at the doctors office for strep which came back negative, so it was recommended that I get tested for covid.

My doctor told me to quarantine until my results came back, but who knows when that will be now...

Has anyone been tested recently? When did you get your results back?

I got tested last week. A close family member got Covid-19, and got what is considered a severe case. She is doing better after a hellish couple of weeks. In my case, I made an appointment (the doc is with SSM Healthcare). We had a set time to show up and we were only there about ten minutes. It took about five days but we got our negative results, thank heavens. When we took the test they told us it could be up to ten days to get our results.

As I said, it's toothless... Once the maskholes (I hope you're not one) find out nobody cares, some will most likely just stop wearing them, and after 9/8, it's gonna get ugly again anyway.

Everywhere I have been I have seen greater than 95% compliance. The law is working, and I think compliance will go up, not down. There really aren't very many maskholes in our midst — they are just exceptionally loud and juvenile

Stitt is completely misleading the public about hospital capacity.

https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/medical-leaders-say-oklahomas-hospital-capacity-is-rapidly-shrinking-that-contradicts-what-gov-stitt-says/article_29d435bf-b819-5e87-b50a-8fb927f1a87d.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Tulsa_World&fbclid=IwAR1od03R0vWAFZUPgQZGpG4IxzHPPxK3zOGyXqneb 7c2u1WpxLtUSSFy1dI

Warr Acres has also passed a mask ordinance.

Um, because it's a public health *emergency*? And that there's absolutely no way the so-called "Action Line" will actually take any action, much less in a timely manner. Seriously, at 5 PM, there are 10 maskholes in a store, and I text the Action Line, and 5 days later, they respond with some BS message that says "didn't find anything here that needed fixing" - what's the point? The OKC mask ordinance is completely toothless, it's all still voluntary, and yeah, it's resulting in increased compliance for now, we'll see how it's going in a week or so. Gonna be a moot point by 9/8, though, so why even give a ****, it's all going to start going to hell again then, I'll bet, if OKC reopens things more and no masks are required.

Fund the Police!

Just so everyone is clear, the police have told me that even if you call the non-emergency line, it still gets triaged through 911. So the police recommend calling 911 for all police related matters.

Just so everyone is clear, the police have told me that even if you call the non-emergency line, it still gets triaged through 911. So the police recommend calling 911 for all police related matters.

Yep. The Police I’ve talked with said they will ignore calls from the Baby Karens (aka Tattletales), but will respond to actual emergencies.

As they should.

If a store asks a person to put a mask on, or to leave for refusing, they can call the cops for trespassing.

Yep. The Police I’ve talked with said they will ignore calls from the Baby Karens (aka Tattletales), but will respond to actual emergencies.

As they should.

Comparing someone reporting a non-mask-wearer that might possibly be contagious with an unknown, deadly-at-times (and causing long-lasting injury at other times) to a (usually) white person being incredibly unjustifiably racist or hurling petty insults because their Subway sandwich didn't have mayo instead of mustard? Bye-bye.

If a store asks a person to put a mask on, or to leave for refusing, they can call the cops for trespassing.

Correct

918 new cases today.

7-day rolling average is 750.

111 new hospitalizations, which is just slightly short of a record.


13 (!) more people have died, although only 2 in the last 24 hours.

918 new cases today.

7-day rolling average is 750.


13 (!) more people have died, although only 2 in the last 24 hours.

Hooooly smokes. So much for the hope of a plateau. Now we wait for hospitalization numbers.

Hooooly smokes. So much for the hope of a plateau. Now we wait for hospitalization numbers.

Currently hospitalized was just short of a record high yesterday.

Don't be surprised if we break the record when the new # comes out late this afternoon.

Florida continues to add 10,000 cases every day.

Both Louisiana and Arizona have passed NJ for most per capita cases and both will likely soon pass New York which still has the most. Florida coming up very fast as well.

Oklahoma now 36th in per capita cases and quickly rising.

Florida continues to add 10,000 cases every day.

Both Louisiana and Arizona have passed NJ for most per capita cases and both will likely soon pass New York which still has the most. Florida coming up very fast as well.

Oklahoma now 36th in per capita cases and quickly rising.

Will we be a TOP TEN STATE?

Florida continues to add 10,000 cases every day.

Both Louisiana and Arizona have passed NJ for most per capita cases and both will likely soon pass New York which still has the most. Florida coming up very fast as well.

Oklahoma now 36th in per capita cases and quickly rising.

On the positive side, Arizona and Texas appear to be starting to decline and Florida's case counts are leveling off. Louisiana is definitely concerning, and so too is our own state.

12 of the 13 dead were over the age of 65. I wonder how many were in LTCFs. We seem to be doing a bad job of protecting the most vulnerable.

On the positive side, Arizona and Texas appear to be starting to decline and Florida's case counts are leveling off. Louisiana is definitely concerning, and so too is our own state.

They have only recently leveled and are at unsustainable highs.

We continue to have about 70,000 new cases a day in the U.S. and that would have to come way, way down before there is any way to look at current trends as positive.

We also had over 1,100 deaths yesterday in the U.S. which is horrific.

If July continues to average 4 deaths per day, July is on track to be the pandemic's second most deadly month.

If July continues to average 649 new cases per day, we'll end the month with just over 20,000 cases:

https://i.imgur.com/FXRSJGw.jpg

918 new cases today.

7-day rolling average is 750.

111 new hospitalizations, which is just slightly short of a record.


13 (!) more people have died, although only 2 in the last 24 hours.

The website says 975 cases.

The website says 975 cases.

That's in the dashboard which is all messed up.

At the top, it shows a total of 28,065 cases compared to yesterday's 27,147 which is a difference of 918. Those numbers were also in the daily email.

That's in the dashboard which is all messed up.

At the top, it shows a total of 28,065 cases compared to yesterday's 27,147 which is a difference of 918. Those numbers were also in the daily email.

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

If July continues to average 4 deaths per day, July is on track to be the pandemic's second most deadly month.

If July continues to average 649 new cases per day, we'll end the month with just over 20,000 cases:

https://i.imgur.com/FXRSJGw.jpg

1,000 cases a day. Deaths going up. Hospitals at all time highs. Yet all we are doing are telling people to wear a mask. SMH Don't get me wrong I think mask help but so would shutting some things back down. Bars, Restaurants, Casinos would be a good start.

1,000 cases a day. Deaths going up. Hospitals at all time highs. Yet all we are doing are telling people to wear a mask. SMH Don't get me wrong I think mask help but so would shutting some things back down. Bars, Restaurants, Casinos would be a good start.

Look, I’m all for shutting stuff down if we need to, but let’s wait a couple weeks to see how this mask ordinance helps. I’ve seen plots from other cities that show a nearly 2 week lag between mask mandates and a reduction in covid numbers. No reason to hurt these companies if the masks get the numbers to drop.

My daughter got tested at CVS on 7/11/2020 and still has no results. They first told her 3-5, then 5-7, then 7-10 days. Its been 11 days and no results. We don't think she has it but a coworker was exposed so we thought it best to be tested to be safe. If tests can't be done within 2-3 days then this virus will continue to spread like wildfire. Don't go to CVS.

Look, I’m all for shutting stuff down if we need to, but let’s wait a couple weeks to see how this mask ordinance helps. I’ve seen plots from other cities that show a nearly 2 week lag between mask mandates and a reduction in covid numbers. No reason to hurt these companies if the masks get the numbers to drop.

I tend to agree with this take, although I think it would be reasonable to enforce distancing in restaurants and close the bars and gyms. To me, that would be the first step.

One problem we have is Moore, Mustang, Edmond, and Yukon don't seem likely to pass mask ordinances. The Edmond mayor, whom I know little about, is against any kind of involuntary mask policy. Hard to get a policy like that through your council when the mayor is personally opposed.

I don't understand the obstinacy some of these people have when they are hearing directly from hospital officials about the disappearing critical care capacity. And it will be folks in Moore, Edmond, Yukon, Mustang, etc. who will be using OKC's hospital services.

Mayor Holt doesn't want to continue issuing emergency proclamations, but it's hard to imagine he has the votes to set up more restrictive measures.

If I could wave a wand we would be 100% curbside and outside dining, bars closed, churches back to streaming services only, and a ban on gatherings of more than 10. We probably need measures like that for the whole state to really get this under control.

At the very least, restaurants should have to go to 50% capacity.

We wonder why the US isn’t doing well?https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canadian-american-tour-boats-at-niagara-falls-become-symbol-of-covid-19-contrast-1.5033837

measures.

If I could wave a wand we would be 100% curbside and outside dining, bars closed, churches back to streaming services only, and a ban on gatherings of more than 10. We probably need measures like that for the whole state to really get this under control.

At the very least, restaurants should have to go to 50% capacity.
This I would be 100% for and I really don’t see how it would be that hard to do.

I tend to agree with this take, although I think it would be reasonable to enforce distancing in restaurants and close the bars and gyms. To me, that would be the first step.

One problem we have is Moore, Mustang, Edmond, and Yukon don't seem likely to pass mask ordinances. The Edmond mayor, whom I know little about, is against any kind of involuntary mask policy. Hard to get a policy like that through your council when the mayor is personally opposed.

I don't understand the obstinacy some of these people have when they are hearing directly from hospital officials about the disappearing critical care capacity. And it will be folks in Moore, Edmond, Yukon, Mustang, etc. who will be using OKC's hospital services.

Mayor Holt doesn't want to continue issuing emergency proclamations, but it's hard to imagine he has the votes to set up more restrictive measures.

If I could wave a wand we would be 100% curbside and outside dining, bars closed, churches back to streaming services only, and a ban on gatherings of more than 10. We probably need measures like that for the whole state to really get this under control.

At the very least, restaurants should have to go to 50% capacity.

The Edmond mayor doesn't have much in the way of any special power compared to the rest of the council. He's just another chair. The trouble is that there are 3 folks currently opposed to any sort of mask mandate, and two of them (Mayor O'Neil and Councilman Massey) won't budge at all. Chapman is the third "no" vote but he seems like he might be on the fence. My councilman, Davis, has been supportive of a mandate for weeks if not longer (I just know that is when I've spoken to him). The last councilman (Moore) is also now a strong supporter of a mask mandate, and he hadn't seemed supportive in the past, so I think they're making progress. Side note: Dan O'Neil is who we have to think for blocking the Spring Creek Expansion, and many other modern development projects. So that gives you a bit of his mindset.

This I would be 100% for and I really don’t see how it would be that hard to do.

It takes political will, and that's sorely lacking. It would also set off the cries of "But the economy!!!!", which is somewhat valid because our relief and safety nets suck enormously, when they even exist...

It takes political will, and that's sorely lacking. It would also set off the cries of "But the economy!!!!", which is somewhat valid because our relief and safety nets suck enormously, when they even exist...That’s true also. I sure hope mask wearing keeps up or even gets better and it proves to work.

Look, I’m all for shutting stuff down if we need to, but let’s wait a couple weeks to see how this mask ordinance helps. I’ve seen plots from other cities that show a nearly 2 week lag between mask mandates and a reduction in covid numbers. No reason to hurt these companies if the masks get the numbers to drop.

I think Dallas had less than 1,000 cases today first time in 18 days. They will work will everyone make it work?

The last hour might he been the scariest for me since this whole COVID crap started. After our 40th HS reunion a few years ago I started a FB group for people I went to grade school with in the 60s. A thread started in the group about the conspiracy theory of this virus thing being a way to create a cashless society. OMG! Within a few hours the thread blew up with my friends and their friends posting all of their beliefs that there is no virus and it’s just the government, banks, media, etc. trying to take complete control of everyone’s lives. So many of these friends are highly educated and in fairly high level professional positions in the companies they work for. And they believe in the conspiracy theories! I’m starting to think we, as a country, are in for a long road of **** because of the sheer number of people who just don’t get it or believe it.

The last hour might he been the scariest for me since this whole COVID crap started. After our 40th HS reunion a few years ago I started a FB group for people I went to grade school with in the 60s. A thread started in the group about the conspiracy theory of this virus thing being a way to create a cashless society. OMG! Within a few hours the thread blew up with my friends and their friends posting all of their beliefs that there is no virus and it’s just the government, banks, media, etc. trying to take complete control of everyone’s lives. So many of these friends are highly educated and in fairly high level professional positions in the companies they work for. And they believe in the conspiracy theories! I’m starting to think we, as a country, are in for a long road of **** because of the sheer number of people who just don’t get it or believe it.

Massive trouble if we don't have it under control by flu season. There will be the people that don't believe in Covid and go to work sick cause they think it's just the flu. Then there will be the people that are lining up at the hospitals cause they have a sore throat and think they have covid and want to get tested. Either way it's not going to be pretty if we don't get it under control now.

The last hour might he been the scariest for me since this whole COVID crap started. After our 40th HS reunion a few years ago I started a FB group for people I went to grade school with in the 60s. A thread started in the group about the conspiracy theory of this virus thing being a way to create a cashless society. OMG! Within a few hours the thread blew up with my friends and their friends posting all of their beliefs that there is no virus and it’s just the government, banks, media, etc. trying to take complete control of everyone’s lives. So many of these friends are highly educated and in fairly high level professional positions in the companies they work for. And they believe in the conspiracy theories! I’m starting to think we, as a country, are in for a long road of **** because of the sheer number of people who just don’t get it or believe it.

I'm baffled as well by some of these people with their beliefs, and it'll probably take a "Woolery" to get them to believe (he was a vociferous denier, then his son caught it and literally one day after his latest denial tweet, he said "Oops, sorry, it's real" and then deactivated his Twitter account).

The last hour might he been the scariest for me since this whole COVID crap started. After our 40th HS reunion a few years ago I started a FB group for people I went to grade school with in the 60s. A thread started in the group about the conspiracy theory of this virus thing being a way to create a cashless society. OMG! Within a few hours the thread blew up with my friends and their friends posting all of their beliefs that there is no virus and it’s just the government, banks, media, etc. trying to take complete control of everyone’s lives. So many of these friends are highly educated and in fairly high level professional positions in the companies they work for. And they believe in the conspiracy theories! I’m starting to think we, as a country, are in for a long road of **** because of the sheer number of people who just don’t get it or believe it.

I graduated HS in 1978 and organize all my class reunions and thus am friends with just about everyone from my class on Facebook.

I don't unfriend anyone but I've hidden 90% of them.

This was a group from the best public HS at the time and most went on to college and beyond. And I'd say almost half don't even live in Oklahoma anymore.

Yet, it's generally an ignorant, hateful, racism-just-under the surface group of hundreds, all of us turning 60 this year.

Not coincidentally, we graduated with nearly 1,000 and didn't have a single person of color (not one!!) in our class. There may have been 2 or 3 black kids in a school of 3,200 and they were the very first, ever. This was 1978 in northwest OKC, not 1950 in Mississippi.


These things run deep and anyone around my age that grew up here were strongly shaped by an almost completely segregated state (Tulsa was just as bad if not worse). They are almost all universally afraid and distrustful of anyone that doesn't look like them. And in the current political climate, they eat up all the race-bating and deep state conspiracy theories with a big spoon.

^^ Pete, interesting that you bring that up. You may recall my mentioning in the past that I grew up in Warr Acres just a block over from PC high. Do you remember the Vann family that went to PC during the late 70’s and early 80’s?. All of them sports standouts and a father who was ALWAYS down on the sidelines supporting his kids. They were the first family of color to move into the neighborhood, and were good people.

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Not coincidentally, we graduated with nearly 1,000 and didn't have a single person of color (not one!!) in our class. There may have been 2 or 3 black kids in a school of 3,200 and they were the very first, ever. This was 1978 in northwest OKC, not 1950 in Mississippi....

Interesting what a difference where you live makes, I was around 63rd/May, so I was in OKCPS, I ended up getting bus-ed to Northeast High from 79-83, it was pretty integrated. But then I know people that went to Edmond high schools and their experience was similar to yours.

Interesting what a difference where you live makes, I was around 63rd/May, so I was in OKCPS, I ended up getting bus-ed to Northeast High from 79-83, it was pretty integrated. But then I know people that went to Edmond high schools and their experience was similar to yours.

The OKC schools started forced busing in the early '70s and before that were almost completely segregated.

I remember when my oldest sister was a senior at PC in 1972, a basketball game with Northwest Classen (a previously all-white school that was forcibly integrated) had to be played behind locked doors because of racial problems at that school.

In 1974, we played a football playoff game at Tulsa Washington which was deep in highly segregated North Tulsa. The stadium was roped off and security stopped fans of either school from interacting. Even though both schools were orange and black. PC was 100% white and BTW was 100% black, so very easy to see who was with what team.

My sophomore year (1975), the week before we played U.S. Grant in football homecoming, there was a racially motivated shooting death at that school; their side of the stadium was kept completely empty.

^^ Pete, interesting that you bring that up. You may recall my mentioning in the past that I grew up in Warr Acres just a block over from PC high. Do you remember the Vann family that went to PC during the late 70’s and early 80’s?. All of them sports standouts and a father who was ALWAYS down on the sidelines supporting his kids. They were the first family of color to move into the neighborhood, and were good people.

Bryce Vann (the oldest of five brothers) was a year younger than me and was the first black kid to letter in a sport at PC. He graduated in 1979; the school was founded in 1919.

It's unbelievable to think about now. When I was in grade school, it was still a felony to marry outside your race in Oklahoma and all the southern states. That was true until the supreme court *forced* those laws to change; it's not like there was any drive in Oklahoma to remove that horrific law. And people don't change their minds after decades of firmly held belief just because the federal government forces you to stop persecuting people.

I also remember racial jokes were very common in school and among my friends. When I got to OU, the only black kids in my classes were athletes. All the fraternities -- including my own -- were completely segregated. Our house mother only called blacks by the n-word and nobody corrected her.


This is the environment in which almost everyone over 50 in the U.S. grew up. Even among the evolved and open-minded, that old way of thinking gets into your subconscious and comes out in a million different ways.

I know this because of my own odd reflex reactions to the LGBTQ community. I grew up when being gay was absolutely never discussed; teachers would be fired, young people beaten, sons and daughters completely disowned by their families. I literally never even saw homosexuality until well into my adult life and even then it was still quite hidden. So, when I moved to California and gay marriage was made legal, intellectually I was thrilled and extremely supportive. Yet, I've been to gay weddings and felt uncomfortable. I hate that the whole thing still *feels* somehow 'wrong' to me, no matter how much my brain thinks the complete opposite.

And because of the baby boom and because medical science has made huge strides, there are a disproportionate number of people over 55 in this country right now and a good many of them were raised in a very different time (and passed on their views to the next generation) and their fear of 'others' and change is being exploited to hold this country back.

Change, in fact, is almost a universally positive and healthy process. We know more, we learn, we grow, we evolve. Yet, it can be scary especially to those of a certain age who are threatened by the new and unfamiliar. As a result, there is great political currency in forwarding ridiculous ideas that appeal to this age group and the uneducated. And thus they are constantly being fed this conspiracy nonsense by the 24/7 news cycle and social media. How else can you possibly explain the absurd idea that masks are somehow a control mechanism of the government rather than the modern-day all-for-the-greater-good equivalent of rationing and buying war bonds??

Interesting what a difference where you live makes, I was around 63rd/May, so I was in OKCPS, I ended up getting bus-ed to Northeast High from 79-83, it was pretty integrated. But then I know people that went to Edmond high schools and their experience was similar to yours.I graduated from Northwest in ‘77 so my integration experience is similar.

I graduated HS in 1978 and organize all my class reunions and thus am friends with just about everyone from my class on Facebook.

I don't unfriend anyone but I've hidden 90% of them.

This was a group from the best public HS at the time and most went on to college and beyond. And I'd say almost half don't even live in Oklahoma anymore.

Yet, it's generally an ignorant, hateful, racism-just-under the surface group of hundreds, all of us turning 60 this year.

Not coincidentally, we graduated with nearly 1,000 and didn't have a single person of color (not one!!) in our class. There may have been 2 or 3 black kids in a school of 3,200 and they were the very first, ever. This was 1978 in northwest OKC, not 1950 in Mississippi.


These things run deep and anyone around my age that grew up here were strongly shaped by an almost completely segregated state (Tulsa was just as bad if not worse). They are almost all universally afraid and distrustful of anyone that doesn't look like them. And in the current political climate, they eat up all the race-bating and deep state conspiracy theories with a big spoon.
Very good take on how our age and how that time of our lives shape our future views to a large part.

Bryce Vann (the oldest of five brothers) was a year younger than me and was the first black kid to letter in a sport at PC. He graduated in 1979; the school was founded in 1919.

I know all this is off topic, but I remember them well. We lived just a couple blocks apart. They were on 50th St. and we were on 47th, and used to interact in the neighborhood from time to time, but never hung out. There were 4 or 5 kids... I remember Bryce, Bruce and Brandy, but don't recall the other kids names.

In my complaints about the Edmond council and their resistance to enact any sort of mask ordinance, I had avoided trying to sound ageist, but one of the things I noticed was the age/race divide on the mask stance. The two main opposition to any mask mandates in Edmond are the two 72 year old white men, and one of those is the mayor. And if you've heard either men talk about mask mandates, well, they're the ones who think the anti-mask folks have good points when they say the mask poisons you with CO2. For comparison, my father was a councilman in Edmond in the 80's and if he was still alive he still wouldn't be in his 70's yet. The mayor at the time was Carl Reherman, who was in his 40s. In fact, from what I recall most or all of the council was younger then. I've got to imagine if the makeup was similar today, Edmond might already have a mask mandate.

I composited some trends from NY Times interactive page: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/texas-coronavirus-cases.html

So, keep in mind that the graph scaling here isn't the same. The scaling tightens down around the CURRENT max values, and their dashboard ignores the recent data problems we had, omitting the 800 cases from Sunday/Monday.

What I see though, is almost the same story. Cases begin ticking up, setting new records week after week. Deaths rate ticks up in Texas, eventually setting new record after new record. I could see an argument made for OK's urban population density being less, that perhaps we will not see our daily cases continue to break as many records for as long as Texas did. Additionally, Texas % of positive tests got way higher than ours. Hopefully the record daily deaths counts are behind us in OK. I just don't see very much in the data to support that theory at this time:

https://i.imgur.com/7gIrnq5.jpg

I graduated from Northwest in ‘77 so my integration experience is similar.

I guess we were lucky, I had integrated schools pretty much all the way through - walked to Burbank Elementary, which had busing make it integrated about 3rd-4th grade (1974-5), I think, then I got bused to Longfellow 5th grade center on Lincoln, then bused to Hoover for 6-8, then bused (and drove) to Northeast for 9-12. Shaped my worldview for the better, I didn't grow up with the same (horrible) philosophy my parents had.

... The two main opposition to any mask mandates in Edmond are the two 72 year old white men, and one of those is the mayor. ...

This is exactly why I try to vote out (or not vote for) old white (sometimes rich) men in *every* election, tired of them running the country, time to change.

I know all this is off topic, but I remember them well. We lived just a couple blocks apart. They were on 50th St. and we were on 47th, and used to interact in the neighborhood from time to time, but never hung out. There were 4 or 5 kids... I remember Bryce, Bruce and Brandy, but don't recall the other kids names.

Bryatt as well. He played basketball at OU.

I guess we were lucky, I had integrated schools pretty much all the way through - walked to Burbank Elementary, which had busing make it integrated about 3rd-4th grade (1974-5), I think, then I got bused to Longfellow 5th grade center on Lincoln, then bused to Hoover for 6-8, then bused (and drove) to Northeast for 9-12. Shaped my worldview for the better, I didn't grow up with the same (horrible) philosophy my parents had.

I have to say my parents weren't like that. They were from those old era's, the depression and WWII, but didn't tolerate that garbage in our house. All the bad stuff I learned came from outside the home. I remember a coulple times when both of my grandpa's made wise cracks and my dad turning to me and telling me don't listen to that.

I have to say my parents weren't like that. They were from those old era's, the depression and WWII, but didn't tolerate that garbage in our house. All the bad stuff I learned came from outside the home. I remember times when both of my grandpa's make wise cracks and my dad turning to me and telling me don't listen to that.

They were some of the good ones, lucky you! My mom's not as bad as my dad was, so that helped a little, but it was just weird having 180 degree viewpoint differences from them.

Never understood the race thing growing up. My dad had friends of almost every race. One of his best friends was African Amercan. The guy had an electrical company, the family lived on an acreage, had a home that looked like it came out of one of the house magazines, the kids had horses and other animals and were active in showing them. My dad was an immigrant who worked in a steel mill in Calif. The guy who come over and help teach my dad how to do remodeling on our house. I guess that framed my idea of African Americans. Nice people, very successful. My dad also had friends he worked with that were Hispanic, "hill billy" as they called themselves and Italians and Slovenians who were also immigrants. Our school was mixed.

This is exactly why I try to vote out (or not vote for) old white (sometimes rich) men in *every* election, tired of them running the country, time to change.

Guess you'll be voting for Kanye, then?

This literally just popped up on my FB feed.

I went to HS with these people and they all went to college.

This is the mindset of a huge number of those over 55 and not coincidentally a lot of these same people think the virus is a hoax, won't take a vaccine when ready, think masks are mind control and for the weak, and are increasingly anti-science and anti-vaxx.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/q072320.jpg

737 new cases today. Previous record for a Thursday was last week, 628.

7-day rolling average is 766, a new all-time high.

3 more people have died.